rckcomm1 (NA)
: League of Legends players in the New England Area?
Manchester NH here, not rly interested in a meetup though
: i dont want to see them banned i want to see them banned from rankeds and go play for fun as much as you want if you dont want to improve or play seriously
so let me get this straight...you think that anyone less than Gold tier should be banned from ranked? are you high?
: hence "ecks dee"
: just do a hardware ban ecks dee
: Nobody replies to Kyoyaoaaa
Morglics (EUNE)
: druid? there are no druids in the game
except for the part where yes there are?
CyberPhobic (EUNE)
: If your caught Wintrading you should be IP banned
: The Legend, the Hero, and the GODS
: I think they are talking about chargeback bans being reverted once balance was paid.
possibly, idk. i read it as people who pay money get preferential treatment. im assuming ESL here so i'm sure i could be wrong
: Dude has a point.
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: Mostly bans were lifted for those players who paid for smth or got gifted ietms (payment issues).
: Toxic teammates
banning someone's pick intent is not, and will not be punishable
: How would I find these logs? I'd gladly post them if I could find them somewhere
they are usually provided to you when you try to log into the game, if not you can request them from the support page
: 10 Game Restrictive Chat For No Reason
if you'd like a community assessment of why you were punished, you need to post the complete, unedited chat logs provided to you when you log in.
: There are lots of votes but no replies probably because they are all haters.
oh yeah for surrrrre all haters LOL, 860+ views...all haters {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
: Hacking with 3rd party?
make a ticket if you want but you gotta remove his username from your post
: Is there anything being done about upvote/downvote bots?
the problem is, due to the technical limitations of the boards themselves, there's not really alot the mods can do about it from what I've read the solutions are being discussed but the options are limited
: ***
not really, it's the complete and utter lack of replies 2 full days later that makes me chuckle
8Belthazor8 (EUNE)
: It perfectly shows how incredibly trash the rng is in this game.
so a very, very, very rare event happens and it's considered "trash rng"? your logic is odd
: shouldve made zyra 3* js.
sounds like you've never faced a geared up azir...
Kamakas (EUW)
: Lol your posts on this thread have been pretty funny to read, I must say. All you do is call out other people and their opinions asking for "citations", while contributing nothing to the conversation, not even with your own decently formulated personal opinions. > both of those sentences are pure opinion and conjecture First sentence of the persons post : > Except they just make new accounts and ruin the experience for new players. What kind of citation or empirical data would have to be provided to prove this? Isn't this absolutely obvious, that many banned people do make new accounts, therefore, matching up with new players, and since they have been banned before there is obviously a bigger chance they will be toxic in their games, and "ruin the experience for new players" as said. At least show some respect to people by actually thinking about what they write, before calling them out. And some data for you aswell if you need, the strawpoll posted above with over 5k reddit players answering. https://www.strawpoll.me/18054580/r According to that ~10% of players have been permanently banned **more than once** which means they have returned, and "ruined the experience for new players". Second sentence of the persons post: > The way bans are right now is not helping. Obviously a statement that does not contribute to the discussion much either, since the current ban system is obviously **helping**, if not being perfect and they are not offering an alternative way for bans to work that would be superior. However they have, in their first sentence, mentioned a potential flaw in the system, so having a critical opinion on it is definately warranted. Also, do you even think what you are asking for? How could people provide citations or proof of Riot's data, that they have not made public? Do you think in order to be allowed to post your opinions on the forums, you would have to first conduct your own research, which by the way would be pretty impossible to do in this case, without Riots data? It honestly seems like you scroll through the posts asking for "citations" on anything you might not agree with at first glance, or calling out "strawmans" while not even knowing what the word means.
> [{quoted}](name=Kamakas,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EjJJA2Ee,comment-id=00080000000300000000,timestamp=2019-12-05T13:27:07.402+0000) > > Also, do you even think what you are asking for? How could people provide citations or proof of Riot's data, that they have not made public? DING DING DING!!! we have a winner! that's my whole point, you can't spout off crap like this like it's fact, >they just make new accounts and ruin the experience for new players. The way bans are right now is not helping. its opinion and conjecture, like i already said, bc none of us have any possible way to prove it either direction thanks for getting it though, see ya{{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
: When someone says, "You're not baiting me."
lol{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
: Aww, I don't fall under either of your categories... Is this even open for discussion? Are you even looking for an actual response? Best as I can tell, you just want to be heard that you don't like the punishment system and are really dissatisfied with the people responsible for it. Incidentally, I feel that way too, because people are resorting to /mute all. This isn't good and I was happier with the mutable flames. Its a shame they're letting people be sacrificed as a show to try to reduce toxicity. Now to everyone else reading, here's a prime example of someone who has a bad mouth that could be a good player. For all your collective brainpower and effort you're putting into these forums, can't you think of a way to coexist in the game with him instead of glorifying his punishment? He's obviously not in need of being told his mouth is dirty and the current rules... blah blah blah, you know. Here's an idea; Let banned players play with other players with bad behavior. You know, like AFKers and leavers. Then they have no right to complain about bad behavior until they prove otherwise and EVERYBODY WINS.
> [{quoted}](name=Nightsky Pirate,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=17lsvzxk,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-05T00:50:17.611+0000) > > Let banned players play with other players with bad behavior. You know, like AFKers and leavers. Then they have no right to complain about bad behavior until they prove otherwise and EVERYBODY WINS. why would RIOT create another avenue for people who have **REPEATEDLY SHOWN THEY ARE UNWILLING/UNABLE TO FOLLOW SIMPLE RULES OF HUMAN DECENCY** to play? It makes no sense...they dont want to make a playground for toxic players, they straight up do not want them in their game. nevermind the fact they have stated publicly, multiple times, that they are against any kind of prisoners island. and for good reason IMO
: Except they just make new accounts and ruin the experience for new players. The way bans are right now is not helping.
citation needed please. both of those sentences are pure opinion and conjecture
rujitra (NA)
: This really should be pinned giving the vote manipulation on this post - any chance you could?
this{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Kamakas (EUW)
: I didn't argue with the fact that not only gaming industry but rather all public platforms have moved towards more strict rules, I was simply asking for clarification, since from my personal experience I have never been or seen anyone get punished for something similar to what this thread was made about in any other online games. And since you were pointing out Riot is moving towards even stricter rules I'm not sure how this is the industry standard? You clearly agree (I assume) that the chatlog I posted should be punishable, could you maybe clarify with an example, how much further in the direction of stricter rules should Riot go? Maybe point out some phrase or action that should be punishable in future, that maybe isnt yet?
> [{quoted}](name=Kamakas,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EjJJA2Ee,comment-id=0008000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-12-04T13:15:52.314+0000) > >And since you were pointing out Riot is moving towards even stricter rules I'm not sure how this is the industry standard? never said it was the industry standard, i said the industry was trending that direction >could you maybe clarify with an example, how much further in the direction of stricter rules should Riot go? Maybe point out some phrase or action that should be punishable in future, that maybe isnt yet? i never said they should be stricter if you're going to keep trying to put words in my mouth to suit your argument then i see no need to respond further goodbye{{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
: > > I locked the voting because in a matter of minutes, it had shot up to the 20s, which again is really abnormal for PB, even if it's a popular post or a red response, so I'd locked it. It's unfortunate though, as that action and my response end up taking away from a lot of the discussion happening in that thread, which wasn't my intention when I did lock the voting. are you ever gonna unlock it or you gonna tell me to piss off?
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FoUloQ9r,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-04T03:22:48.364+0000) > > Based on your chat, it seems highly doubtful they were "try to steal my jungle since minute one". > > So... he isn't obligated to go in just because you want him to. You don't get to boss your team around. Maybe if you used chat to **talk to** your team instead of simply using it to berate them you'd actually be able to discuss. > > **He doesn't have to go in just because you do**. Period. You dying to an enemy is **your fault** - not your teammates. So stop blaming them for your mistake. So why do you get to judge everyone else? Since you didnt actually see the game....How do you know that us marine is wrong?
assuming you're the boss of everyone in the game and expecting them to follow your orders, then flaming them when they dont is automatically wrong, no matter if it was the right call or not
Kamakas (EUW)
: Where exactly is the "industry" trending to, to a point you could get banned _more_ easily, than calling someone dumb? Also by industry I'm not sure what you are talking about exactly. Sure hardcore toxicity, racism etc is bannable pretty much everywhere on internet, however I have never been punished in any other game for being tilted in a game, showing some negative attitude and calling someone "dumb".
the industry is trending away from allowing toxicity on their private platforms, that's not opinion, that is fact. and by industry I mean all video games, did you even bother to click the link i posted? literally hundreds of developers have signed on...RIOT, Epic games, EA, Blizzard, etc. **"for gaming professionals and companies to work together to develop and share best practices in encouraging healthy communities and awesome player interactions in online gaming. We envision a world where games are free of harassment, discrimination, and abuse, and where players can express themselves through play."** if you see this as a bad thing then idk what to tell ya
: Most people don't like it and upsetting a majority of people is not going to be good for business in the long run.
> [{quoted}](name=Clockwork Mouse,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EjJJA2Ee,comment-id=00080000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-03T21:21:59.124+0000) > > Most people don't like it citation please. last time i checked companies do things that make them money, if the majority was against it, they most likely wouldnt do it
: I doubt it cracks you up, you probably take offense to it.
> [{quoted}](name=CharDeeMcDenniz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EjJJA2Ee,comment-id=0008000000020001,timestamp=2019-12-03T20:41:17.577+0000) > > > you're not baiting me bud > > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
: A strawman is when I take something or someone and argue a point against it leaving you unrelated and unable to defend against it, this is a comparison, not a strawman. Comparing something then pointing out a flaw about it is me making a point. You not defending your point, or not having anything to counter with other than "strawman" demonstrates how un prepared you are to engage with anyone who disagrees with you.
> [{quoted}](name=CharDeeMcDenniz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EjJJA2Ee,comment-id=0008000000020001,timestamp=2019-12-03T20:41:17.577+0000) > > you're not baiting me bud > > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
: > [{quoted}](name=CharDeeMcDenniz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EjJJA2Ee,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2019-12-03T13:03:09.396+0000) > > this is, 100%, guaranteed, without a doubt, **NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN!** You cannot guarantee anything, so please don't do it here. > first of all is just a terrible idea That is your opinion, and like people's butt's, we all have them, and they all stink. > 2nd RIOT has recently joined with hundreds of other developers to fight AGAINST toxicity, if anything they, and other giants of the industry, are moving in the exact **opposite** direction of what you are describing, https://fairplayalliance.org/ Like the never-ending war on Drugs? Like the War on Terror? You can't fight something this nebulous and win, sorry bad idea objectively. What if they say you're toxic, and they ban you for no reason? I am sure you'd like that wouldn't you.
strawmen, strawmen everywhere...and not a crap to give you're not baiting me bud {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
: You just call whatever you disagree with spam. I am offering sound advice
whatever you say LOL bye{{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
: It sounds like you are just mad.
says the guy spamming rageposts all over the forum
Kamakas (EUW)
: I would be very unpleasantly surprised if Riot moves _further_ in the direction of implementing rules to reduce toxicity, if you can already get banned for calling someone dumb. Even more than that would honestly cross the line of absurdity.
lol that's where the industry is trending, like it or not
Ph03n1xb1rd (EUNE)
: > Infact, you can see the manipulation here where rujitra and only him has been constantly getting 20ish downvotes shortly after he posts. It only happens to him, not to others. Have you ever considered that it might be because he talks absolute bullshit in 90% of his posts? :D (The guy cant even read dates normally, but would argue with you how a liar you are, because you didn't play games on the given date (what he could not understand))
not even close, he's being targeted by someones bot and it's painfully obvious
: Na, banning someone from a game should only be reserved for people cheating by using outside means. Riot should open the floodgates, let people be as toxic as they want to be and play the game however they like. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
this is, 100%, guaranteed, without a doubt, **NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN!** first of all is just a terrible idea 2nd RIOT has recently joined with hundreds of other developers to fight AGAINST toxicity, if anything they, and other giants of the industry, are moving in the exact **opposite** direction of what you are describing, https://fairplayalliance.org/
: Assuming that the one saying it are raging at all. {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
Mcmxcix (NA)
: Yeah jajajajajajajaja, NO! Same goes with Aram.
at least you're learning hero mechanics in aram
: > [{quoted}](name=ThunderCraft,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=5BomcxRb,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-02T05:56:19.017+0000) > > predator is not as strong summoners are more cancerigenous I can't actually tell if he's talking about league or TFT (0_o) cause predator isn't in TFT (I don't think? I don't play the game), but the rest sounds like he's trying to talk about TFT xD
Mcmxcix (NA)
: GNINIAG PX TFT tuoba gniklat er'ew niaga ecnO
i can see the threads now... "WTF RITO! WHY DO YOU LET PEOPLE WHO GET TO LEVEL 30 PLAYING TFT GO INTO RANKED!!!!!!"
: Did you have prior punishments? Also, it's possible your game was flagged. I was in a four man and my friend called me a %%%% and got a chat restriction, even though it was in team chat and no one in the party reported him.
> [{quoted}](name=Tuition Fee,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EjJJA2Ee,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-01T19:20:33.094+0000) > > I was in a four man and my friend called me a %%%% and got a chat restriction, even though it was in team chat and no one in the party reported him. sorry, that's just not how the system works, no report = no review more likely someone in your group prob reported for the lulz not expecting it to actually work and when it did they dont want to admit it
ranga116 (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=CharDeeMcDenniz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k59Ku1y0,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-02T03:03:59.579+0000) > > pretty self explanatory... > > there has been multiple low effort posts such as yours all occurring on the same night...idk how to explain it any further the "low" effort posts you speak of honestly are the only ones ever calling out riots wronings and the games faults and then theiris ones that go into pure detail about the same issues and people ignore them
i have no problem with someone "calling out RIOT" if they do so with rational thoughts, examples, and well formed opinions this was none of those
: You didn't say anyone other than me you have lost any good faith with your excessive trivial responses, without addressing the content
i said 'some people' if you infer that to mean you then all i can tell you is your ego needs a check i have not addressed your "content" bc there is nothing worth addressing goodbye{{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
: no i dont think anyone should be banned unless its death threats or something like that. people are just snowflakes nowadays
> [{quoted}](name=BawssDude,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EjJJA2Ee,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-12-02T03:00:09.914+0000) > > people are just snowflakes nowadays this line always cracks me up, like the people **raging at complete strangers they will most likely never see again in a video game** are somehow stronger or mentally fortified LOL
: Don't know how to do that Don't need to
: you seem tilted i was just summarizing my experiences
lol sure you were{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
: >There is no consequence for throwing a game TIL losing isn't a consequence. Being bad isn't punishable and has no reason to be punishable. Inting is punished, which you'd know if you actually paid attention to this board. >There is a consequence if you talk to the thrower Because flaming trolls just feeds them, and flaming bad people is explicitly against the rules. --- EDIT: Also, nice blatant upvote botting. 28 at 17 is *not* normal.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k59Ku1y0,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-02T03:07:45.679+0000) > > > EDIT: Also, nice blatant upvote botting. 28 at 17 is *not* normal. it's been rampant the last few days, very sad to know that some people feel the need to manipulate colored arrows to make themselves feel better
: simple words does not mean low effort please address the content
lol so you think there was a legitimate effort at a conversation with your post? imo it belongs in the RANT section, there is nothing to be discussed within your OP might as well have said "RIOT sucks, prove me wrong"
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