: Man what a disappointment that Order Orb was
Tbh I don't care much for this event, I just sided with order because fuck Yasuo and I just saved up for the orb because I don't care for the icons. I got that christmas Miss Fortune skin and some order tokens, not too bad, no complaints. I just wish it didn't take me SO LONG to get to 140 tokens. Every day the missions I got either gave me 10 tokens and 10 tokens or 10 tokens and 20 tokens.
: "We nerfed Braum and Alistar because they were jack of all trades, master of all"
I don't find Alistar, Braum, or Thresh problematic. The only supports I absolutely hate are {{champion:53}} and {{champion:117}} Especially with Blitz's Q hitbox being pretty wonky
: ADC's feeling this overbearing is the accumulated effect of every Class update
To be honest I find JUNGLERS overbearing. Whatever team has the best jungler is guarenteed to win. You can have a godlike adc but if the enemy team's jungler is better than yours, you will not win.
: VS. Ending Soon
I side with neither {{champion:92}} or {{champion:157}} I side with the TRUE reigning force {{champion:6}} URGOD
Ebrawl (NA)
: IDK why your saying "just press mute" because I needed to communicate with my team and shot call
> [{quoted}](name=Ebrawl,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EPwxip9R,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-24T01:15:46.317+0000) > > IDK why your saying "just press mute" because I needed to communicate with my team and shot call Obviously you were not doing that. You were being toxic. That's why you got banned. If you cannot keep yourself from being toxic then you mute. You have pings to communicate with your team, and nobody will communicate with you anyways if you're being toxic.
Ebrawl (NA)
: It was in the heat of the moment where the tilt really misguided my anger I feel like such a loser for being toxic
> [{quoted}](name=Ebrawl,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EPwxip9R,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2017-06-23T22:40:48.887+0000) > > It was in the heat of the moment where the tilt really misguided my anger I feel like such a loser for being toxic That's why there is a mute button. If you don't like what people are saying and it's making you angry, mute them before you become toxic.
Ebrawl (NA)
: Perma banned over complete unfairness and teammates tilting me on purpose
If you can't control your own behavior or simply make use of the _MUTE BUTTON_ then you should not be playing online games.
awdaf (NA)
: This is annoying
Thats why I usually dont ask people to lock in for me until after they've banned
: Just for the sake of this really awesome event, please stop banning yasuo and riven in normals.
No. I hate Yasuo, can't trust my teammates to be good with him or against him, and I refuse to have that ruin my ranked games.
: playing Ashe/Tristana/Kog'Maw isn't nearly as satsifying as playing Draven/Jhin/Caitlyn
I find all of of the ones you've listed to be fun to play. Problem is, 3 of them are in the current meta and at least 2 aren't. I've seen Ashes do alright, but I haven't seen many Kogs or Trists and when I do they have a rough time.
: The problem with draven and what needs to get nerfed
Draven snowballs easily and does a lot of damage. He benefits from raw damage and lifesteal. With the new DD changes he gets 80 damage, CDR, and becomes impossible to duel if you're fighting him alone. A smart Draven rushes that. In all honesty, he was strong before the DD rework but was not a monster. He himself isn't the problem, it's DD, and he's not the only one abusing it. Everyone and their mother builds it now.
: Buying Missions is a Step in the Wrong Direction
When I was first reading up on this stuff I thought the skins would be available through mission unlocks. Now that I know you have to buy them the whole missions thing seems meh to me. I'm just gonna buy orbs and maybe the icons with my tokens, maybe I'll get one of the skins through an orb
: I notice way more Riven supporters than Yasuo
I could care less about order or chaos or whatever. I just really hate {{champion:157}}
Vishan (NA)
: Riot doesn't want veterans with PTSD to play their game
It has nothing to do with PTSD and Riot holds everyone to the same standards, the system itself is run by a program. If you are making the game hell for people, over, and over, and over again, you will be permabanned :/ . It does it automatically. I understand why you may be acting toxic in games, but if you're reported enough then it bans you. You may be able to message the Support team and explain your situation and they can unban your account if they see fit, but if they do so you REALLY need to be careful in games. Explain your situation at the start of the game, say you're muting everyone and tell them not to take it personally if you act a certain way. I don't have PTSD, I cant imagine what it's like or how hard it is to deal with, and I thank you for your service. I'd message the support team, they have nothing personal against vets or people with PTSD, it's an automated system and I'm sure if you contact someone they can do something about it.
sobi999 (EUW)
: Can Caitlyn not trap you under your own turret?
I ban her every single game. There's a reason she's called the adc for babies.
: the MMR system needs to be as transparent as other games
I'm just wondering why as a silver player I'm sometimes matched with and against bronzes and golds. Bronzes should be put against bronzes, silvers against silvers, golds against golds, etc. If their MMR is high enough or low enough that they are being put with me they should not be at the rank they are at.
: Meddler: "we don't know yet if ancient coin is weak, or if frost queen is overpowered"
My bf sometimes takes {{item:3302}} on Rakan because the shield you get later works with his passive shield and it gives you some health. He just has to be able to last hit, but it works better. When he does take coin he builds it into {{item:3069}} because of the movement speed active but that's really the only benefit. Shield still feels more useful.
: Tired of hypocrites, I want to ask support mains one question.
The reason people think supports can't carry is because they don't know what a support carrying looks like and don't recognize it when it's happening
: Is it just me or do Gold Adcs Never group?
I'm a silver adc and I have to BEG my teams to group and to help peel for me
: Since everybody thinks fiora is broken, Here are her counter picks.
It's funny because it does not matter if you counter her or not. Late game she gets a kill or two off her team and she becomes unstoppable anyways. That's the problem.
: Why don't people in low elo peel for their adc?
THIS THIS THIS 100 TIMES THIS AS SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN PLAYING ADC A LOT MY TEAM ALMOST NEVER PEELS FOR ME. I'll stay in the back of my team during fights, I'll use my ult defensively if someone is on top of me (I'm a level 7 {{champion:498}}), I'll ping I need assistance My entire team runs up ahead to chase people and leaves me to die, and then questions why I don't do anything.. In higher elos people actually run "protect the adc" teamcomps because your adc DOES A LOT OF CONSISTENT DAMAGE. It's not like a mage who bursts, your adc is half or even all of your damage on a team. Your adc is the one melting tanks. If you have no adc you will not have a big chunk of damage, why are you letting them die? You should want to protect your adc at all costs ESPECIALLY if they are fed. Do NOT RUN DOWN LANE OR CHASE PEOPLE AND LEAVE THE ADC ALONE IN FIGHTS. I can't tell you how many games I've lost where I won my lane, gotten fed, and we constantly lose teamfights because my team refuses to peel for me and protect me so that I can do what I need to do. All I need is maybe 1 person to just make sure I'm protected so that I can dish out my damage. That's not me being like a stubborn privileged brat or anything whining that I want protection. That's me saying in order for us to win fights, I need to do damage, and I can't do that if the enemy is on top of me. If you want to win fights then you need to protect your damage dealers.
: Yasuo is always banned now
He's banned because 1. You can't trust your teammates to be good with him and you can't trust them to not feed him 2. If you crush him in lane it won't matter because ultimately he'll take kills from his team and become a crit monster anyways 3. Mobility on a less than 1 second cooldown, a wall that blocks everything even if you hit it from the side, a passive generating shield, a knockup, and 100% crit after 2 items all lead up to a frustrating time fighting him.
Rioter Comments
: Competitive play proved there's no reason to play another melee dps when Fiora exists
If she's supposed to be a diver/duelist I don't get why her ult has to heal her entire team instead of just healing her. That seems like a big problem to me. Why not make her ult just heal her if she gets it off instead of benefitting her entire team? She's supposed to be able to duel. If she heals up her whole team them she's really not dueling anymore, she has her team to help her again. It's especially problematic if you have Redemption on your team...and then her ult...and then someone like Soraka..
: League's next V&G reworks need to be very interesting Reworks like Warwick's one
Galio's lore in no way matched his playstyle. He was supposed to be a **protector**, and **nothing** in his gameplay reflected that. He actually _does what he was meant to do now_. You have more in your kit to protect your allies and his ult highly reflects what Riot originally wanted him to be.
Bultz (NA)
: Junglers have way to much say in my lane.
I feel like that's how botlane is. I'm an adc/support main so I'm pretty much always botlane during the laning phase and it's like....whoever gets the most jungle presence bot wins... You constantly gank, get the first tower, and then go get drag. At this point it's extremely annoying and I wish I didn't have to depend on our jungle so much. If you get a bad jungler you are pretty much guaranteed the loss.
: You dont need a sightstone in the early game and even in the mid game if the game is going slow and both botlanes of each team are in bot fighting for the tower. You can easily keep bot and drake warded with only 6(2 from each champion and 1 control ward for each) wards everytime. If you are a Lulu, Soraka, Janna, Karma, etc... DO NOT BUY Sightstone as first item. Get either Redemption or Ardent for the dueling potential. Unless you get a early first blood tower in bot, then sightstone is advised.
> [{quoted}](name=LordAngelos,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MsBA1tlf,comment-id=0034,timestamp=2017-06-10T11:16:34.811+0000) > > You dont need a sightstone in the early game and even in the mid game if the game is going slow and both botlanes of each team are in bot fighting for the tower. > > You can easily keep bot and drake warded with only 6(2 from each champion and 1 control ward for each) wards everytime. > > If you are a Lulu, Soraka, Janna, Karma, etc... DO NOT BUY Sightstone as first item. Get either Redemption or Ardent for the dueling potential. Unless you get a early first blood tower in bot, then sightstone is advised. I usually don't bother getting it early especially if the enemy botlane is pushed up constantly.
: {{item:2303}}(do people even build this one? lmao) {{item:2302}} {{item:2301}}
> [{quoted}](name=AwesomeGuyDj,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MsBA1tlf,comment-id=001c,timestamp=2017-06-09T20:31:39.361+0000) > > {{item:2303}}(do people even build this one? lmao) {{item:2302}} {{item:2301}} I've built {{item:2301}} before but honestly I like having the slow on {{item:3092}} better. I feel like it's a lot more useful
: How can you openly talk about "the power of Rakan"
I beg to differ. In the right hands he can make a big impact. A lot of people just suck at playing him.
Acheron16 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Charyzard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MsBA1tlf,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-06-09T15:53:15.589+0000) > > I think I'll start hacking the game so I can break past the warding limit and place that 4th ward You just proved yourself an ignorant support, invalidating your entire post.
> [{quoted}](name=Acheron16,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MsBA1tlf,comment-id=000000000003,timestamp=2017-06-09T19:42:28.156+0000) > > You just proved yourself an ignorant support, invalidating your entire post. Explain? Or did you not read my post? You can place 3 vision wards. You place the 4th and one dies, meaning you can only have 3 at a time. I'm saying I'm going to hack the game so I can place the 4th one without it dying. I include red wards in the post and say I can put 1 down ALONG WITH the 3 vision wards, but I still can' place 4 vision wards at a time. Is it really that hard to understand?
: I don't see how one is connected to the other. Supports need to buy sightstone. People need to use there trinket. Both of these are necessary and both have had many threads about the problem. We keep on needing to make these threads, yes, but one isn't against the other.
> [{quoted}](name=Tobias Brackner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MsBA1tlf,comment-id=0014,timestamp=2017-06-09T19:32:41.708+0000) > > I don't see how one is connected to the other. > > Supports need to buy sightstone. > > People need to use there trinket. > > Both of these are necessary and both have had many threads about the problem. > > We keep on needing to make these threads, yes, but one isn't against the other. Because the people that usually whine about supports not getting sightstone usually fail to ward enough themselves and think that sightstone just magically wards up the entire map for them.
: When playing an assassin or burst mage {{item:3364}} is guranteed to be in my trinket slot but I do buy like 7{{item:2055}} throughout a whole game
> [{quoted}](name=PROJECT Katarìna,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MsBA1tlf,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2017-06-09T18:25:07.728+0000) > > When playing an assassin or burst mage {{item:3364}} is guranteed to be in my trinket slot but I do buy like 7{{item:2055}} throughout a whole game I always get red trinket after I get my sightstone as support but if at least 2 other people on my team decided to get it, I'll probably switch to blue ward instead
: Screw ap supports. I support camille. The shielding is crazy on top of her passive lol
> [{quoted}](name=Moonfall Saber,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MsBA1tlf,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2017-06-09T18:45:37.448+0000) > > Screw ap supports. I support camille. The shielding is crazy on top of her passive lol BOI I've done support Camille before it was hilarious
: > [{quoted}](name=Charyzard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MsBA1tlf,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-06-09T15:53:15.589+0000) > > I think I'll start hacking the game so I can break past the warding limit and place that 4th ward How are you upvoted on this bronze statement. You have 3 from sightstone and a control ward.
> [{quoted}](name=Grimspeake,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MsBA1tlf,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2017-06-09T16:05:29.682+0000) > > How are you upvoted on this bronze statement. You have 3 from sightstone and a control ward. "I can only have a max of 3 wards on the map and then 1 red ward" It's almost as if you didn't read this part. Control ward is a separate ward from the vision wards your sightstone gives you. The max amount of vision wards you can place is 3, and then you can place 1 control ward. As for my earlier statement, that was called sarcasm. If you maybe read my post once again, you'd know that you get THREE VISION WARDS. I said I'd hack the game to be able to place that FOURTH VISION WARD. Don't call me bronzie if you can't understand that simple statement.
archerno1 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Charyzard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MsBA1tlf,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-06-09T15:53:15.589+0000) > > I think I'll start hacking the game so I can break past the warding limit and place that 4th ward 4th is control ward
> I can only have a max of 3 wards on the map and then 1 red ward.
Zielmann (NA)
: You mainly play Karma, Sona, and Nami. You're not the person those threads are aimed at. They're targeted at the people (often autofilled) who play mages in the bot lane, and build full damage without even bothering with sightstone.
> [{quoted}](name=Zielmann,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MsBA1tlf,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-09T15:54:23.468+0000) > > You mainly play Karma, Sona, and Nami. You're not the person those threads are aimed at. They're targeted at the people (often autofilled) who play mages in the bot lane, and build full damage without even bothering with sightstone. And I'm saying that a lot of the people that complain in the first place fail at warding themselves. I've gone Lux Velkox and Zyra support before, depending on the lane I prioritize the damage first and then the sightstone because it gives us better control of the lane if the enemy is poked down. Are there supports that decide they'll go full ap? Yea, there are. But most supports, no matter who they are going, take some form of sightstone. What people don't realize is that we have to pay for those wards, it takes up an item slot if you choose not to combine it into the 1 item and really doesn't provide much statwise except some health, and we can still only place 3 wards at a time. It's not like buying sightstone is gonna magically ward up the entire map, we still need some contribution from the rest of the team.
ybuR (NA)
: Sounds like you dont utilize your 4 wards properly
> [{quoted}](name=ybuR,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MsBA1tlf,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-09T15:52:33.105+0000) > > Sounds like you dont utilize your 4 wards properly I think I'll start hacking the game so I can break past the warding limit and place that 4th vision ward
Rioter Comments
Dasdi96 (NA)
: Hey support players:
> No, warding trinket is not enough vision. You need to get a sightstone so you can do your job in warding. Now you might be thinking "everyone has trinkets that should be enough vision." However, most mid laners and junglers switch to sweeper to try to deny vision, meaning they can't provide vision. Stop trying to make excuses to not build sightstone just because you want to go full ap brand and "carry" your team. Hey buddy, my sightstone only carries 3-4 charges, I can only have 3 wards on the map at a time and then 1 red ward. But guess what? If you use that handy dandy {{item:3340}} you get at the beginning of the game FOR FREE you can add more than 3 wards to the map! You do not need to get {{item:3364}}, usually the jungler AND the support do. There is no reason to have more than 2 red trinkets in the game unless maybe there's champions with lots of traps on their team. What you and the adc SHOULD be getting is {{item:3363}} because it let's you ward bushes without having to facecheck them. There is no reason for you to deny vision, that's the support and the jungler's job. Stop making excuses for you to not use the free wards you get, it is impossible for the support to ward the entire map for you so maybe you could pitch in a little bit. I have to PAY for my wards, you get them FOR FREE.
: The support role has never been so fun and balanced
Low elo players think getting kills is what wins the game so they like to play carry roles. High elo players know that killing the nexus is what wins the game and to get there you need objectives, which involves teamwork, and the support plays a large role in that.
: "Rito forces a 50% w/r and puts inters and trolls into my games if I'm on a win streak"
Well I mean every time I've won a game or two recently I've noticed the next few games I have teammates that play horribly so I end up losing a couple games. I'll have a game with amazing teammates, and then next game the mid feeds the enemy katarina 10 kills and our yi jungle dies lvl 2 and thinks he can 1v3 the enemy team every fight just because he's yi.
Ainvar (NA)
: Buy a sightstone. Vision wins games.
I always buy sightstone as a support, but... Use the free wards you get at the beginning of the game. Sick of seeing my people bitch about sightstone when they've placed maybe 5 or 6 wards by the 30 minute mark and never bought a {{item:2055}}
: Unable to Connect to Login Queue?
Doing the DNS thing fixed it but the fact that I had the problem in the first place is odd... Been playing for almost 3 years and I've never had that problem
Rioter Comments
: Challenger rewards update
Can you make me a jacket out of black trash bags that says "Silver" on it?
Dasdi96 (NA)
: Draven should not be able to outduel bruisers in melee range.
It's because he rushes Deaths Dance The changes to it made it broken on him. Once he has it you cannot 1v1 him.
: Death's Dance isn't OP and doesn't benefit carries.
{{champion:119}} has been rushing it since it's changes He's always beens strong but with the DD update he's a monster...or have you been living under a rock?
: So Syndra's W got nerfed cause it was ''too hard to miss''
It won't even matter. She could miss every ability she casts and missing her Q STILL BENEFITS HER POINT AND CLICK ULT so she kills you anyways
: Mac OS X 10.7 support stopping in patch 7.15
All I know is my Mac says it's running OS X El Capitan version 10.11.16 so if that's supported I am happy
: have 10 bans even come out yet?, riot said it did, but it wasn't implemented
> [{quoted}](name=PureSilvrr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WOKAb5jn,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-01T23:35:11.052+0000) > > have 10 bans even come out yet?, riot said it did, but it wasn't implemented Only in normal draft, ranked hasn't changed yet
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