: Lol the calling of any twig that bends over thicc. Might as well burn the word at that point
She is objectively and definitively thicc due to hip to stomach ratio.
: Fixed it
nice try rito
Rioter Comments
Voldymort (EUNE)
: Actually the logic is "If the game ended and you dont like these players, why arent you reporting them and going on your merry way?"
Because what other people say to you lingers. Don't give me this bull shit that everyone's immune to harrassment, and that it doesn't effect people. It does. You can't be told that you're a horrible, or garbage, or worse every fucking game before your subconscous starts believing it, or at least feels a level of depression from it. Yeah, one or two harrassing comments here and there doesn't bother me at all, but it's every game, and the only way to make it stop is to quit playing. Reports do _nothing_. I will never see those players again. Every single person I've ever reported could be permabanned and my exeriance would still be the same going forward. Nothing but undeserved harrassment and abuse. I just want people to shut the hell up and play the game,but the insist on blaming every single mistake on someone else, or looking for someone elses mistakes to distract from their own. But that blame and harrassment gets to people after a while. It gets to me after a while.
Voldymort (EUNE)
: >Removing the tribunal was the biggest mistake Riot's ever made. the tribunal was prone to providing false positives and was slow af in giving out punishments, be they deserved or not. there were cases that would take 6 months or more for a punihment to happen >All you have to do now to avoid punishment is change avoid saying phrases like "kys". if someone is trying to be sneaky about it, a ticket will prompt a manual review and it doesn't even take long to submit one. i usually do them while the game is loading >It's still perfectly fine to say "You're so terrible" or to spam ping death timers, or to spam ping question marks. you can mutes pings, chat, and emotes. i'm pretty sure this includes deathtimers but i've never needed to mute anyone since i can usually tune out chat drama and focus on the game. so i'm not certain if those are included
What I hate about "just mute and pretend the problem doesn't exist", aside from the obvious issues, is that for some reason riot thinks I want to unmute them at the end of the game, so this happens. https://gyazo.com/6ee71eb1e14941457fb979a68a58d587
: Xanax or Alprazolam is used to treat anxiety and panic. He did not tell you to kys. He told you to calm down.
Rioter Comments
Gabidzus (EUNE)
: Level up capsules after 14 days ban?
Good question, I'm not sure. You -should- since level up capsules are the equivalent of IP before the change, but Riot really likes to ream punished players as many ways as they legally can, so who knows :3c
: Bethesda has fallen, and now Blizzard also has fallen
It's just a difficult time for game companies for various reasons, most of which are political or financial, and they're struggling to balance all of their resources. Riot has the luxury of not being pressured to release new games, so they're less effected, however you can see some of the effects rocking their boat, so to speak. For example, their twitter apology, diversity push, and even in-game with Neeko being LGBT and expressing that in several quotes.
: Crap, you're right. I'll miss that. I remember just going through all of the death animations to find what was the most brutal. A friend and I believed it was Tryndamere's for the longest time.
Old irelia's was pretty rough. Her blades would turn on her, impaling her 3 times.
: Honor other players. If you're looking for reasons to honor other players, you'll be less focused on the negative bits. Not to mention if everyone on the team honors somoene, each player will get a small amount of bonus honor.
It's rare that I'm focused on negative stuff. I always honor someone that's not in my pre-made. Even if they didn't do anything to earn it, I'm still incentivized to honor them so I do anyway.
: Sever transfer. You land on the new server at honor 2.
I've heard about this but haven't verified it. I -really- don't want to because it feels like I'd be exploiting the system but the system is so oppressive it's certainly swaying my opinion.
Dat Kat (EUW)
: Not be a prick.
Rioter Comments
: If you think I will dig through google regarding a change in the punishment system that was implemented in 2015, just because a random guy on the internet can't be bothered to do it himself and posts a single word with an attached question mark instead, you are mistaken. Google for "2015 chat restriction change" and sift through the results yourself.
: Because they tried permanent chat restrictions, and found out that these resulted in a large increase in non-chat-related trolling, which was harder to detect and more damaging to gameplay. As a result, if you cannot behave well enough to be trusted with chat, Riot doesn't trust you with the game, period. As for why flaming is punishable: the mute button exists as a shield to prevent exposure to toxicity, not as a tool to enable it. The responsibility is still on the rulebreaker to not break the rules, not on the victim of their toxicity to mute (although they should do that as well).
I strongly suspect that many individuals are toxic due to an exposure to toxisity, and that the phycological effect has already taken place before muting can happen.
: You won't get a logical and reasoning response from the boards, everyone here thinks that permanently banning someone for being toxic in chat is effective, when in reality, it just makes the permanently banned player buy level 30 accounts and reclimb the ladder (therefore ruining the mmr system for the people in lower elos) They don't take this into consideration but oh well
: >If your offense is chat related why aren't you simply muted? Because that has been tried in the past. And as it turned out, people who want to be toxic in chat, but no longer can, turn to other ways to ruin their teams game (inting, afk, trolling, etc.).
: See, I find nothing wrong with this... we all cant be marry sunshine and there are games that tick us off. Sometimes we are just in a bad mood. For fucks sake we are only human. Not all of the reports that we see in the boards are overbearing but I don't think that this one should have been punishable imo. Yes yes we agreed to the tos but this is off the damn rails. I would send a support ticket and see what you come up with, maybe they will be kind and understand that you got irritated.
Actually, I was in tears due to chronic depression. That won't matter. If you aren't overly positive all the time you're scum and should be put down in the eyes of this community.
Aneirin (OCE)
: > Just reporting the overbearing nature of league punishments these days, not interested in any "advice" from this board In other words, you know you were toxic and don't want anyone to point it out?
This boards idea of "constructive criticism" is verbally ostracizing anyone for saying anything that may or may not be taken as anything other than overtly positive.
: >Chibi Ðeviljho: jungler quality so bad this season. Pretty much became argumentative after this point. I prefer having teammates who don't consistently argue and complain, which is an apt way to describe a majority of this chat log.
In response to, "ur 0/5 // i dont gank // losing lanes. I only gank winning lanes"
Rioter Comments
: The times are given in PST, which is 3 hours later than Eastern Time.
That would still be 6:59
: Quite honestly I don't care what you think of me or if you take me seriously, what you do and think is irrelevant to me. And you're right, I won't be talking to you how you want me to. That's because of everything you said to your teammates and much like the system I don't dispute who started what, it's how you respond to it is how I come to a conclusion and how I state what needed to be said. You're no victim and you weren't in no unique situation. You'll be treated as you treat others. I state what I need to state, not to comfort the toxicity, not to hear their side, or empathize toxicity, but point it out and show what they deserved and how they deserved it. I've met plenty and empathized a lot of players with understandable situations. Mistakable errors and unaware baits at low level players. You, however, you show no empathy or self-control, so you don't deserve to sympathize. I respect players who respect the ToU and knows when to mute while playing the game with sportsmanship. Your "ape" insults, along with "retard" and "Trash" insult. You are part of that community you called "disgusting". I don't care about your situation, regardless of it, you could have handled it better. My statement stands. I suggest you not say what you posted here in your future games. Because you will receive your last penalty fast with that attitude regardless what anyone said here. What you do with that advice, I don't care. With that said, take it as you will and do what you will. I am ending this discussion because I have nothing else I'd want to say to you. I said what was needed and that is the end of it. Learn from this penalty. Period. Good day sir.
You sir, are fake news. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: There is no such thing as defensive insulting.
Yeah, there is. It's very self apparent too. It's league players specifically that think otherwise.
: That had nothing to do with seeing the punished as “lesser beings”, and everything to do with the fact most of us wish the toxic types that infest this game would go play something else.
You can't refer to another person as an infestation and still insist you see them as equals. It's literally calling them pesky insects.
: Nah. They got rid of report weight when the ifs came out, at least for verbal cases.
I learn more about what should be general knowledge every day C:
Eybdoog (NA)
: ***
Hey man I'm workin' hard on that climb. You could at least pretend it takes skill xD
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLeviathanAxe,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=OBMAskOU,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2018-06-06T18:43:13.318+0000) > > This guy knows what's up. I feel like this post will get downvoted from the majority of the softies who love seeing peoples hard work go down the drain cause they defended themselves once or twice against 4 other people 'banding' together to find an excuse for the loss then reporting it. > Focus on this part. You claim people defend themselves and get banned. Then later, you say it is easier to mute than to report. If the person who was "defending" themselves muted the other players instead of retaliating; they wouldn't be banned.
I believe he's saying that you should be able to mute or defend yourself, and so should the other person, and that reporting should be reserved for individuals who compromise the integrity of the game. Personally, I agree with TheLeviathanAxe.
Risen29 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Black Gay Guy,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=OBMAskOU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-06T09:36:23.586+0000) > > They expect you to mute and report Toxic players not respond to them. That would be easier to do if they actually did anything constructive with your reports. I have not seen a notice of a player getting punished in many months, but I have reported plenty of extremely abusive or griefing players who deserved punishment. Ive seen people on this forum get permabanned or banned for way less than what I report people for. Its easy to feel like the only punishment that person will get is the one you dish out to them when Riot is asleep at the wheel letting a worthless AI police things for them.
I think your report is worth less and less the more you report. Try holding onto reports for only the most abusive of cases! Also, from my experience, getting someone penalized doesn't feel good after a few minutes. I think of people like OP and how they just get a little carried away and before they know it they're going through what he's feeling, then I feel terrible about it.
: It was fun Riot.
Hey, really sorry to hear about your relationship, I can't help with that, but I do have good news about the work you put into your account! The work isn't actually lost, what you were working on wasn't some silly progression bar like an MMO, but rather your own skill, which Riot can't take away from you :) You worked hard getting better at the game, and that skill is still with you! So make a new account, add your best buddies, and hit the rift like always champ; oh and mute the guy next time ;D PS: Really, you should consider writing, your use of imagery is perfect. I particularly enjoyed this line, "Talking to support was like talking to person who knew they were gonna leave you, they just showed face to ease the sadness of you knowing that everything you worked and spent time on was going to be thrown down the drain." As someone who went through that many times, it really tugged on the heart strings.
Kriifrux (OCE)
: not surprised you got banned games like these happens but you can't just make it worse for everyone else
Thank you for your thoughts. I was suspended, and I didn't make the game worse for anyone. The only people I spoke negatively towards was zed by calling him an ape as he was assisting the enemy team via opening mid, and velkoz in the post game lobby, at which point the game was already over, and he had personally and single handedly ruined the game for everyone. I was suspended for what Riot considers "hate speech", not for not playing to win or being abusive in-game.
: Just to be clear, they only got a 14-day ban. It's not like they're gone yet, they still have the opportunity to improve and avoid a permaban. Actually them coming here with this post is exactly what they should have done. "I got 14-day banned, I don't want to get permabanned like another poster I saw, so what do I need to do to not get punished again." You may feel like you're just giving it to them plain, but IMO it's more pointed and combative than just plain. You can't be so harsh about things and expect them to listen or understand you. When you put people on the defensive like that they stop listening.
Just for clarity Halcyon, I get penalized for my logs about once per year by the IFS, and it's usually one game on the log. Considering I play thousands of games per year, to have a 1-3 bad ones is still a toxicity rate of 0.1% or 50 times lower than the general population, which is 5%. My issue is that I have no aversion to words Riot has deemed "hate speech", which Riot handles differently. I am rather certain that I would not have even received a chat restriction if that single line failed to send. Personally, I think it's silly to conflate a single word regardless of context, use, or intent with a monologue of hateful, discriminatory rhetoric, but hey, not my call.
: Yes, we have to on that. But keep doing what you're doing, I'll keep from telling you're wrong because I disagree with your tactic. I shouldn't have done that in the first place. Apologies on my part there. See you around and good luck out there.
Zombie, you remind me of the old testament. "If thou even accidentally think of saying a word that isn't strictly positive as perceived by everyone then thou must sacrifice 3 of your best lambs or face eternity in hellfire!" Joking aside, you're clearly too extreme suggesting that players should be permabanned for any and all statements that aren't strictly positive or neutral. I feel like you see yourself as a warrior of light, defending the helpless. Realize, I've gone 9 months without as much as a chat restriction, playing roughly 6-8 games per day, and the sole person I'm "abusive too" I was only "abusive" AFTER they flamed me for 20-40 minutes and intentionally ruined the game for the other 8 members, AND continued being abusive in post game lobby. If you want me to take what you're saying seriously, you're going to have to stop talking to me like I've a long history of abusing my teammates or over-reacting. I doubt you'll do that, but there it is.
: What I gathered from this was "I didn't know I could get in trouble for being mean in the after game screen, so I waited until then to be mean and got in trouble anyways."
No, I waited until the end of a game to respond to an extremely toxic flamer who intentionally ruined the game for everyone. I do not consider that to be "being mean." as "mean" implies I was rude without provocation. Something more appropriate would be, "I didn't know riot cared if you talked back to flamers after the game was over, so I waited until then to talk back to flamers and got in trouble anyways"
: I don't mean to be terribly rude here but: >It's to humbly state that I did not know riot cared what we said after the game Why would you go out of your way to decide when it's okay to be nice and when it's okay to be a jerk ingame? Just don't ever be a jerk, and it's not something you ever have to think about.
Your question isn't rude, but a bit naive. Being misinformed isn't "going out of my way" Also I wasn't being a jerk. I was being defencive. If you verbally abused me for 30 minutes and I defencively refer to you as an ape, I'm not being a jerk.
: >It feels like a large percentage of forum users talk to players who are currently suspended as lesser beings. There's a three part reason for this. Part of the reason for this is because the people who frequent this board have heard *every single excuse* a million times. * But context! * But they started it! * But I was "defending myself"! * But I was playing with a friend who knew I didn't mean it that way! and so on, when literally every bit of this is covered under the dual principles of the [summoner's code](https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/get-started/summoners-code/) and the saying "don't be a dick". Part of the reason is that the ingame systems for toxicity are wholly unsatisfying and opaque, and so people come here (including myself in this) to see the system actually working and revel a bit in the Demacian JUSTICE! of seeing someone who acted like that troll last game getting their comeuppance. And the final reason is the frequency with which people lie on these boards. Even the most socially ignorant person in the world knows you don't call people slurs in mixed company, and so there's this pre-existing presumption of bad faith simply because bad faith (and wanting to argue, rather than learn) is a lot more common here than the opposite. I'd say the breakdown in punishment posts is about 98% "I got punished, I know why, I just want to vent/gloat/argue about it", 1.9% "I got punished, I have no idea why", 0.1% "I got punished, and it was actually unjust"
I'm talking about individuals who say things like, "We should see if we can get this increased to a permaban instead @riot"
: > [{quoted}](name=Chibi Ðeviljho,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=uA7EEp0P,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-06T09:27:04.950+0000) > > I don't know why you think that I think I'm being mistreaded by Riot games. I don't. In fact, in the OP I explicitly thanked them for not being too strict with the punishment. I think you're conflating, "Don't talk to me like I'm inferior just because the terminology that I project as offensive is socially unacceptable and yours is socially acceptable for the time being" If that's the hill you want to die on, okay.
I found your diction to be aggressive, dismissive, and condescending.
: That's great! It's good to try to understand ourselves and others better. **In this comment I'm still going to talk a little bit specifically about behavioral psychology**, since I knew people who studied it in-depth during college and their knowledge rubbed off on me. And trust me, it's entirely different from other areas of psychology, and it has vast practical uses with league. So anyways I'll go into detail a little bit about it, if you find that you already know everything I'm talking about feel free to skip to the next comment. But I recommend you give it a full read anyways, sometimes it helps to see the whole thing mapped out. So for behavioral psychology (BP), and how it relates to league - it comes down to how to deal with people who are acting adversely. They're doing something you don't want them to do. Such as troll, flame, or simply be stubborn, defensive, or combative. The big thing to watch out for is _why_ they are doing it. Most of the time it comes down to wanting attention. They want you to "feel their wrath" and acknowledge them. This thing that they want is what BPs call the "function" of their behavior. And the behavior is just their general rage, trolling or whatever else they do to try to get your attention in-game. The problem is, if you reward the behavior with it's function, that reinforces it. They see that they could make you react by treating you a certain way, and it makes them want to do it even more because they know it will be likely to get more of a reaction out of you again. Another problem is that even if you do everything right, things will get worse before they get better. This is because of something BPs call "extinction." When a behavior goes on extinction, the person basically throws a tantrum and overdoes the behavior in a last ditch effort to get what they want. It's a classic case of being upset because an expectation gets violated, just like how a kid throws a temper tantrum when their parent says "no" to a request for candy in the grocery store. Usually that parent has rewarded that request with candy in the past, so the kid expects it to work. When it doesn't work, they ask over and over again till they're blue in the face and then start crying and trying other things to make the parent listen. Same deal with trolling and flaming in league. It will get worse before it gets better. The biggest problem with it is that any time the behavior goes into an extinction burst, if anyone reinforces it then it becomes way worse, because the more severe version of the behavior got reinforced. So it actually makes the behavior worse. In league, tilted or toxic players get new teammates every game, who are just as likely to reinforce the behavior as anybody else. So you have no way of knowing how bad people in the past have made your current teammates. ###### But that's out of our control, so there's no point stressing about it. Riot should probably do something about it though, IMO it would be one of the quickest ways to stamp out a lot of toxicity in the community. It would require different tech though, like intercepting chat messages and not showing them to other players, which is something I think Riot wouldn't want to do. It's a messy problem with even messier solutions. And it's probably why Riot punishes instigators and reactors equally. No point allowing anybody to escalate situations, if that is only likely to reinforce behaviors and make them worse. There are a number of ways players like you and I could deal with this, but the one that I find is most effective is known to BPs as "differential reinforcement of incompatible behaviors" aka "DRI." Basically instead of giving the person an opportunity to take their behavior into extinction, you reward them for a desirable behavior that is incompatible (aka cannot be performed at the same time as) with the undesirable behavior. For example, give them the attention they want, but for completely different reasons than they think you will. Thank them for defending a tower or pushing a lane, congratulate them when they are part of a play that goes well (even if they weren't the reason it went well), and ignore them if they act out for attention. This combination of factors will sometimes lead a person to give up on their efforts to piss you off and instead start playing at least somewhat normally. I'll add more comments covering the other topics later, this is all I had time to do tonight. Let me know if you found it helpful, or if you have any other questions about it.
Thank you. I appreciate the time you took writing this. I wasn't aware of the terminology for what you defined as "extinction". It sounds metal af though. I was aware of it's existing, although I've heard it defined as men's tendency to become hyper-aggressive when they perceive their position on the social-dominance hierarchy challenged or under attack or even just very low, often escalating to extremely aggressive behavior that is uncharacteristic of the individual. This is why I'm strongly against permabanning someone from a single game, which is known to happen if the behavior is aggressive enough. I personally was also permabanned off a single game about two and a half years ago, so I have first hand experience with this exceptionally aggressive nature.
: I dunno, it didn't seem that extreme. Sure he said stuff that he probably shouldn't have besides what I pointed out, but it would not have been enough to earn a punishment by itself, at least not with Riot's bad game protection. Either way I'm mostly just trying to engage with the OP in a way that makes sense to them and can help them understand where they can improve. This is a tactic I use, not necessarily my true beliefs. I show more understanding than many might feel is warranted, and I do it because it is effective at helping the person who was punished to understand how they can improve. Calling them toxic doesn't really do anything useful, and it just puts them on edge and makes them less willing to listen to advice.
This comes across as a little condescending.
deadly76 (NA)
: The one line that you told someone to kill themselves in a very graphic manner is completely unacceptable. I see that kind of talk in league all the time and really it brings the community down. I get it I have lost my temper and said things I regret both in league and in life. For what its worth I hope you do not get a perma ban but i hope you learn from this and legitimately try to be more positive in the future. The Leauge community gets such a bad rap and so many of us forget the point of league is to have fun.
I understand and appreciate your concern for the community. I also personally, have a low tolerance for individuals who intentionally ruin games. The point of this post wasn't to argue that telling someone to kts should be allowed. It's to humbly state that I did not know riot cared what we said after the game. I personally do not have any aversion to using strong language with individuals who provoke me; however I also understand Riot's disposition and respect that enough to hold back what I want to say while in game. As you can see, I'm more than capable of exerting enough self control to filter my language to something Riot's IFS would deem passable. Again, I really do appreciate your concern for the community and the empathy. I do not see Riot's TOS as a moral bible and neither should you. It's just there to protect there interests, and it's in Riot's best interest to maintain an environment that's just restrictive enough to prevent toxic players from making other players leave, while giving enough freedom to prevent players from wanting to leave due to overly-strict speech codes. I personally do not have any moral qualms with using strong language when provoked. If you do, that's you. But since I respect Riot's interest I'll not use strong language while in game. Since it is apparent they care about post game chat, I'll not use it there either. I believe that's the only "lesson" to be learned here.
: > [{quoted}](name=Chibi Ðeviljho,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=uA7EEp0P,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-06T00:12:38.801+0000) > > The point of that statement is to say, "Don't hate me because I used a hurtful word unless you've never used a hurtful word yourself" You are held to the same expectation as everyone else. You say it, you get punished. I say it, I get punished. It's the same for everyone, you aren't being mistreated.
I don't know why you think that I think I'm being mistreaded by Riot games. I don't. In fact, in the OP I explicitly thanked them for not being too strict with the punishment. I think you're conflating, "Don't talk to me like I'm inferior just because the terminology that I project as offensive is socially unacceptable and yours is socially acceptable for the time being"
: For once, HalcyonDweller, I disagree with you. The majority of his chat was toxic. Everywhere from him harassing his team saying he'll report them, to the point where he called Zed an "ape", to insulting his team by calling someone trash, to the zero-tolerance policy line he used. In general, he earned his ban on his own terms and by his own choices. I read his side, but it doesn't excuse his comments he made. He'd need to seriously need to reform on every section of his attitude. All of this could have easily been avoided if he muted the player. We've all gone through irritable games, dealt with millions of toxic players, and dealt with players trolling us, but a lot of players never made such comments as he has posted here. So when you say "I got through most of the log thinking you were fine. And honestly if it wasn't for one particular line, I think you would not have been punished", I believe you missed a lot and missed a lot of what this guy actually said, making it where the rest of his comments were "okay".
I don't think my in-game logs are unacceptable in any way. Even Riot's tooltip says that competitive BSing is fine. What's the difference then from calling an enemy a "boosted animal" which is very popular in league culture, and calling zed an ape? I don't believe Riot wants to enforce a strict good-vibes only policy, and that they want to allow players to be free to express themselves within reason. I find my in-game logs to be well within that reason and highly doubt I'd ever receive punishment with them. I think that you are scanning the logs, looking for examples of negative comments, putting them under a magnifying glass. Or perhaps you see the other players on my team as victims? For reference, I report Vel'Koz after this game and received a notification from IFS that he had been punished immediately. Anyway, on the chance you've already read through the logs, not just skimmed them, understood the climate of the game, understood my teammates were being exceptionally toxic, to the point of assisting the enemy team, and still believe my in-game logs were, "harassment" thank you for your opinion.
: Riot Please change your punishments for leaving games!
You gain rating because you preform better than the players at your current elo. If your performance was so good that you could set your team up to win a 4v5 by the time you had to go you wouldn't need any loss-prevented.
Akrid415 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Chibi Ðeviljho,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=uA7EEp0P,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-06-05T23:20:25.776+0000) > > I'm not going anywhere? This is a two week suspension, not a permanent ban at this point. Children on these boards love to come here on their high horse and say things like "well good bye" to make themselves feel superior or something. His second post would've sufficed but he felt the need to write that initial useless post.
Yeah, I've noticed a lot of them both on others and my own posts. I never understood why people would want to kick someone while they're down.
Akrid415 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=NA Omega,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=uA7EEp0P,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-06-06T01:11:19.416+0000) > > victim blaming again.. I'm suggesting riot be even handed.. No, it's just ridiculous how people like you come riding on your high horses make un-called for posts. They've already been punished, if they wish to fight it let them. If they need to be educated, do it in a mature and meaningful way. Don't come on people's posts bringing some mob mentality. Leave them be, the punishment was enough.
Thank you. Mob rules hurt everyone in the end. Lookin' at you, Salem.
Modi (NA)
: Understandable. It is easy to get frustrated, what takes patience, skill, and determination is not letting it get to you. Good luck! Please don't take this the wrong way, but I hope to not see you make another thread here :-)
NA Omega (NA)
: No.. you want to think I'm trying to elicit something from you.. I dont care.. I'm just asking riot to dow hat they've done to others and get rid of them.. plain and simple
Fair enough. GL with that.
: > [{quoted}](name=Chibi Ðeviljho,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=uA7EEp0P,comment-id=0003000100000000,timestamp=2018-06-06T00:41:19.163+0000) > > He said that he got a two week ban that was extended to a permaban. Riot Tantrum pointed out he had another suspension two months ago which is why his current one is a permaban, however Tantrum didn't dismiss what he said. The guy got 14 days suspension for his first offense. After his ban was over he didn't improve his behavior and was still telling people to kill themselves which is his 2nd offense that lead to a perma.
I'm still reading it differently, but I'll assume you're correct and not worry to much about it.
NA Omega (NA)
: np I'm sure you'd agree with need to rid the game of players demonstrating that kind of disgusting behavior.
You're attempting to elicit an emotional response by using language with strong imagery in reference to me. In other words, you're trying to offend me. The difference between you and I is that for me to want to offend the events like above have to take place. You however seek out individuals to insult and offend on your own volition. In my personal opinion, I don't care what you do, so long as I'm free to point out the irony.
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