: People are still getting banned for flaming? ? God help us... {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
> [{quoted}](name=ØrnnToGetTrolleÐ,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=t3fVwTbJ,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2019-01-14T21:13:03.214+0000) > > People are still getting banned for flaming? > ? > God help us... > > {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} i got banned for arguing, not flaming. questioning my teams decisions on not doing baron or announcing that top is a lost cause is apparently worthy of a 14 day ban simply because i was coming off a chat restriction that i did not finish since i quit the game for a few months right after i was restricted. the system is so bad that you have to just /mute all the instant you get a chat restriction or come off one.
Kanzler (NA)
: Confirmed: You get 1 free "Zero-Tolerance Word" without facing punishment.
apparently arguing with a player without saying a single bad or negative word gets you a 14 day ban simply because of the volume of words in the chat. why have a chat at all? get rid of it and let everyone communicate with pings.
: League of legends isn't a game of skill anymore
> [{quoted}](name=superfire444,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OYtzMp6m,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-03-11T11:38:46.719+0000) > > It's a game of chance. > > I'm not good at the game. I throw games and games are lost because of me, but it bothers me that games are done before 10 minutes no matter what you're doing. You can be 12-0 after 15mins and still lose because your teammates shit the bed and fed. I feel like I have barely an influence in games anymore. The only time I feel like I have any influence is in games which are pretty close. Those games are quite rare since most games are a stomp. this is the main thing that tilts me about the game now and why its so hard for me to play even one game. its so demotivating to play well and just lose because your teammates decide "well i lost lane, entire game is lost" and feed their asses off. i get that i play bad some games and i feed myself and lose game because of it. i can ACCEPT that. but to play well, carry stupid hard, and still lose game because your team just refuses to want to win or play seriously or just plain bad is disgusting. i remember i use to carry games 3v5 as eve before, meaning literally 2 afkers on my team and i still pull ahead by carrying what was left of my team. that is near impossible now.
: Unpopular opinion: Assassins should never be viable
> [{quoted}](name=TrikzterzArma,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7vEvuEdF,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-01-18T11:42:23.138+0000) > > As title says. Assassin-metas are the worst metas in the game. Jumping in, killing the enemy in half a second, and then jumping out safely is in my eyes extremely unbalanced. > > "B-but the support should defend the squishy ones" > Every squishy person can't hug their support for the entire game. And still, there's no time for the support to react to Kha'Zix suddenly appearing out of the stealth to Q and auto the enemy so they die, only to go back to stealth again. > Or a shadow appear out of nowhere, Zed appears and instakills the enemy. > Or a Wukong jumping out from nowhere, q'ing the enemy and the knocks everybody up. > > Supports should be able to defend their allies, but it isn't possible with the absurd damage the game has today. they HAVE to be viable because if not ADC rofl stomp the fucking game even harder than they do now.
: I would be greatly interested in knowing what gameshow this is from.
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EPQ4yUHs,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-30T19:49:47.697+0000) > > I would be greatly interested in knowing what gameshow this is from. Knowing japan its prob a porn fetish.
Rioter Comments
Eedat (NA)
: Lethality champs kinda suck ass right now. Now sure why you would want to nerf them more
> [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=juyctVPq,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-11-29T14:14:34.765+0000) > > Lethality champs kinda suck ass right now. Now sure why you would want to nerf them more Zed talon riven mf suck ass lol?
Rioter Comments
: Is it hard to get out of silver or am I just bad?
Being stuck in silver has little to do with skill but everything to do with what champs you play. Certain champs are impossible to climb out of silver with despite them being good in high elo such as lee. Lee is a playmaker and gets his lanes ahead, but he cant really carry on his own. The problem with that in silver is you are gambling and you will lose that gamble 70% of the time because silver's don't know how to use their advantage. They are ultra selfish players, so much so that they will throw a tantrum if you "ks" or tax 3 cs. So that means its best that you play a hyper carry and simply not die. Play yi, udyr, irelia, any adc, trynd, etc. Any champ that can split push and chain together multi kills easily, aka a champ that isnt gated by CDs to get kills. If you are a mage main play only burst mages like veig and annie since they have low CDs and very powerful aoe CC +dmg.
: Please don't release Neeko with
Neeko does too much dmg, period. She is supposed to be a control mage considering her kit. This is riots problem, EVERY champ they release they it needs stupid high ratios and base damage. Even ornn, a full tank, was released with stupid amounts of damage. Irvern too.
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: This preseason patch has proven how grossly incompetent the current riot balance team is
Is op trying to say that 10 adaptive force is double effective than 5 armor or 6 mr? Do u want 10 armor or 11 mr in one shard instead? Doesnt work that way bud. I suggest getting both the resist shards, they are too good. The hp shard are beyond worthless tho.
: Alright it was funny for a while, now revert it.
New dh is strictly worse than old dh because of how hard it is to stack.
: The new Champion proves that Riot can fix Wukong.
wukong W can still be fixed. Make it to where the clone mimicks his last ability used except ultimate, it lasts longer, and it AAs the target. But the dmg from the ability the clone uses is only 20% of the original ability. But wukong cant be a trickster champ with his current ult. His ult is really good on its own because it is aoe CC. Adding trickster elements to him and allowing him access to aoe CC is too much.
: Fun fact, Neeko is the monkey king and Wukong it just side character
> [{quoted}](name=ValiantKiller,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2thmEbEi,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-11-20T12:32:31.505+0000) > > {{champion:62}} Aka the Monkey king Aka Sun WuKong, > According to all sources and all fictional games, materials, books, etc is able to make different clones of himself, shape shifting and hide. > > Yet a new champion that league seeking money from her and going to be op mostly get all of the monkey king abilities while {{champion:62}} himself still got useless clone on his W that make nothing aside from giving him short hide time and standing clone that make nothing. The shape shifting is just one ability the monkey king has. His greatest aspect that is portrayed in media and games is that he is a great fighter surpassed by none. Also the magical abilities of his pole is most unique to him. Shapeshifting and even clones are not unique to him. If wukong had neekos Shapeshifting and it replaced wukongs W then he would be the most broken character in league and no one would come close. Btw, "colorful" champion is so misleading to what she actually does.
: The defense rune stat path has another "fake" choice, as usual with health runes
Long story short, damage will be HIGHER next season because of less defense. Good job riot. Smash ultimate is in a few weeks, good luck with your game surviving.
Moody P (NA)
: shaco will undoubtedly still be AA based after any rework he gets, too
> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9pB2kBaj,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-17T18:08:18.721+0000) > > shaco will undoubtedly still be AA based after any rework he gets, too thats fine, but he needs more depth than waiting for an absolute vegetable to follow him into a unwarded bush filled with boxes.
Rioter Comments
: They gave LB a skin, I'm giving her the permaban.
And to think she use to have a silence on her Q xD
Spearki (EUW)
: Can we talk about the off meta video O.o
And at the end of the day only 1 build per class/role will be viable anyway
: Still no Shaco changes ? And you cancel the skin you promised to us after releasing it ? No prob
> [{quoted}](name=Just Monikha,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EsPppWA5,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-11-07T12:38:51.333+0000) > > Remember Riot Games i already get suspended after several games where i intentionnaly just build tears and run it down mid so do those Shaco changes we re waiting since 2 years and give us back the skin you promised or players will see blue champions again and i will have a real toxic behavior in each game, even more toxic than i am actually, that s a warning. Shaclone has finally lost it.
Rioter Comments
rawiazam1 (EUNE)
: they removed him cause in lower elos he was op. and in higher elos he wasn't that good since his 5 attack speed game him very little mobility and kiting potential. anyhow, i miss him
> [{quoted}](name=rawiazam1,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YvIlgBWX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-09T12:36:53.780+0000) > > they removed him cause in lower elos he was op. and in higher elos he wasn't that good since his 5 attack speed game him very little mobility and kiting potential. > > anyhow, i miss him False, that champ was highly broken and abused in all elo levels. His lack of mobility was only a minor weakness in comps designed to peel for him, and thats only if they got to him before melting.
Rioter Comments
Leetri (EUW)
: It makes perfect sense. Riot asked Leona players what they wanted and they wanted both, so Riot did both since it's not a lot of extra work.
> [{quoted}](name=Leetri,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hVqEiy9A,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-07T14:27:49.909+0000) > > It makes perfect sense. Riot asked Leona players what they wanted and they wanted both, so Riot did both since it's not a lot of extra work. the skin was created ages ago by the community. both leona and diana had eclipse skins. it makes no sense because riot essentially stole that idea and instead gave both skins to just one champ just so they could be different from what the community made...
Rioter Comments
Febos (EUW)
: No. This: https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1059874339783200768 https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1059874252260704256
> [{quoted}](name=Febos,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hVqEiy9A,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-11-06T19:00:50.992+0000) > > No. This: > > https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1059874339783200768 https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1059874252260704256 She gets both eclipses? That makes zero sense....
: It's a 4v5. It's been a 4v5 for 15 minutes. We have lost twice as many turrets as taken.
If ur in low to mid elo you really shouldn't be ffing. Period. The games are so chaotic there that winning 4v5s are possible. The condition is you cant be a defeatist.
: Can we have more sexualized male skins in league? Why are women and gay men being left out?
sigh, i cant tell if OP is joking or not but im going to say this anyway. Sexualized women are visually appealing to all groups of people including gay men and straight women. Sexualized men are ONLY appealing to women and gay men. therefore a woman that looks sexy will attract alot more people when it comes to buying that skin because they just look better.
: > [{quoted}](name=ChristmasEvelynn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5enVldgK,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-11-03T17:20:46.559+0000) > > what a wierd video. there are 4 women singing, sometimes even at once, but only one voice actor using the same voice for all 4 of the... at once... pretty bad in regards to that, but i guess the animation was nice...? nope, there were clearly different voices for the 3 singers (kaisa doesnt sing) like cmon, how could you mistake akali's voice for evelynn's?
> [{quoted}](name=0MGW4LRU5,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5enVldgK,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-11-03T17:24:22.669+0000) > > nope, there were clearly different voices for the 3 singers (kaisa doesnt sing) > like cmon, how could you mistake akali's voice for evelynn's? all sounded exactly the same to me. guess i wasnt paying attention hard enough since the song itself was crap. i just liked the animation.
: This is my response to K/DA - POP/Stars
what a wierd video. there are 4 women singing, sometimes even all at once, but only one voice actor using the same voice for all 4 of them at once... pretty bad in regards to that, but i guess the animation was nice...?
: A game where your team ffs a losing game successfully at 15 mins feels better than winning.
: If you play JG to enjoy the clear, what are you doing? The ganks are what make you an impactful JG, and what makes it fun.
> [{quoted}](name=TheZacStreetBoys,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tshMoQEE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-11-01T23:31:22.362+0000) > > If you play JG to enjoy the clear, what are you doing? The ganks are what make you an impactful JG, and what makes it fun. they heavily nerfed ganking for a ton of jglers with the exception of there LCS babies such as lee. thats besides the point tho, you HAVE to go back into the jg at some point and when you do it is extremely boring.
: #ShacoLivesMatter
I use to like shaclone alot, but now him, his forum alts, and his fans are getting severly annoying. Even if ur not his fan or one of his ults the spam he has created about shaco is getting stale fast. But i can tell you are him or his fanboy since these shaco threads cant get away without being salty about duskblade being his core item now. Its like force feeding someone bananas and sprite, eventually its gonna be puked right back at you. Wait for his rework like the rest of us did for our mains.
Moody P (NA)
: no, the base damage is definitely part of the issue, lol. The fact that he can run two tank items alongside his Perfect Core and maintain 100-0 pressure on squishies is absurd.
> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tNkBiJFd,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-11-02T12:43:11.750+0000) > > no, the base damage is definitely part of the issue, lol. The fact that he can run two tank items alongside his Perfect Core and maintain 100-0 pressure on squishies is absurd. Ya but they are hurting mid victor who go full ap aswell, who is already in a bad spot
: Nerf Akali so she is Playable
Simple, make turrets detect her and give back utility in the form of her old shrouds blink. Riot tends to make idiotic decisions On mechanics and refuse to take it back if its broken.
: I can't believe meddler said wukong is on the strong side.
Wukong mid cheese is why he has to stay weak till a rework
: Why don't people want to see Shaco reverted?
> [{quoted}](name=SnackerMore,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JsH4XsGV,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-11-02T08:00:09.231+0000) > > This has been on my mind for a day or two now and I don't really understand why people don't want Shaco to be reverted back to a strong early game champ that falls off late game from a weak early game, strong late game. Is it that exact reason? They don't want him to be a strong early game champion? You don't like his split push strength? Please let me know. Because we want to see a FULL rework on shaco rather than a revert. Even old shaco his gameplay as AD was stale.
Rioter Comments
: Well, if she’s killing you under tower, she’s being targeted. If she uses any ability or attack, she drops out of the shroud, and the turret will target her. She still gets revealed by true sight, with active location tracking. Nearly every champion in the game has some form of skill shot. Use it.
> [{quoted}](name=AvantelWings,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tqctKJVv,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-31T19:22:38.895+0000) > > Well, if she’s killing you under tower, she’s being targeted. If she uses any ability or attack, she drops out of the shroud, and the turret will target her. > > She still gets revealed by true sight, with active location tracking. Nearly every champion in the game has some form of skill shot. Use it. geez, do u ever get tired of being downvoted for being flat out wrong all the time?
: > [{quoted}](name=ChristmasEvelynn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EGXfFxfx,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-10-31T10:38:40.672+0000) > > Zoe cant just chuck Qs at ppl like nid did. She requires set up, 2 casts of Q, and range. Fair, but the combined travel time of a paddle star going both ways is about the same as the slow roll of a spear. Both can be fairly easily dodged as long as you see it coming. Zoe has the added disadvantage of needing to line up the cast backwards. But, IMO, that's not the main problem. The main problem is a spell that can be effectively spammed. There is almost no downside to checking bushes, over walls, etc with it. I also hate the fact that she gets rewarded for missing her E, but that's a secondary concern.
> [{quoted}](name=Karunamon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EGXfFxfx,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-31T14:28:54.132+0000) > > Fair, but the combined travel time of a paddle star going both ways is about the same as the slow roll of a spear. Both can be fairly easily dodged as long as you see it coming. Zoe has the added disadvantage of needing to line up the cast backwards. > > But, IMO, that's not the main problem. The main problem is a spell that can be effectively spammed. There is almost no downside to checking bushes, over walls, etc with it. > > I also hate the fact that she gets rewarded for missing her E, but that's a secondary concern. She needs two mana items for that spam tho... And there are alot of abilties in general that can check blind areas. Almost all mages have that ability infact with exceptions such as annie.
: I've never understood the TP hate.
> [{quoted}](name=RookPusher,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Z8Em8Aw8,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-10-30T15:31:45.771+0000) > > I've never understood the TP hate. ADC babies cried about it so papa riot had to deal with it. Ppl were using it mainly to tp bot and still are.
: So I get punished for having inters now?
> [{quoted}](name=FioraWillCarry,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YK6F8AwH,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-10-31T11:03:22.633+0000) > > So two games, I get people that feed non stop and because it vexed me, I'm the one punished? Now here's the thing that really sinks the ship. I get an actual inter one game:- > https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2897285381/228591326?tab=overview > > It should be obvious who the inter is. I report him, yet he is still playing? So does this mean I can int too and never worry about being punished? A 44 kill streak kha lost??????? You guys deserved that loss
: The boards don’t understand a thing about nuance. Nor balance. The second Riot starts taking tips from here on how to balance things is the second the game dies.
> [{quoted}](name=AvantelWings,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ozMjftx2,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2018-10-31T00:38:44.567+0000) > > The boards don’t understand a thing about nuance. > > Nor balance. > > The second Riot starts taking tips from here on how to balance things is the second the game dies. Games already dead lol. They made sure of that this season.
: > [{quoted}](name=ChristmasEvelynn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EGXfFxfx,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-10-30T12:15:23.062+0000) > > Ppl keep comparing her to old nid, but they forget it wasnt just her spear alone that made her broken. People keep comparing her to old nidalee because the reasoning for the nerf to her spear-chucking was centered around the fact that she could literally throw spears randomly for no downside. That's literally what the patch notes said. An interesting thought experiment. Bring up that patch log, and then do a find and replace - Zoe for Nidalee, Paddle Star for Spear. Note that the reasoning still holds.
> [{quoted}](name=Karunamon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EGXfFxfx,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-10-30T19:38:14.856+0000) > > People keep comparing her to old nidalee because the reasoning for the nerf to her spear-chucking was centered around the fact that she could literally throw spears randomly for no downside. That's literally what the patch notes said. > > An interesting thought experiment. Bring up that patch log, and then do a find and replace - Zoe for Nidalee, Paddle Star for Spear. Note that the reasoning still holds. Zoe cant just chuck Qs at ppl like nid did. She requires set up, 2 casts of Q, and range. The fact she needs to throw the Q behind her and then cast it again makes a large difference. Its not as intuitive as you think and certainly not as easy as just pressing Q once toward a location. To add on to that fact you are also aiming twice just to get passed big minion waves or pets
SEKAI (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=ChristmasEvelynn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EGXfFxfx,comment-id=00020002000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-30T18:51:38.551+0000) > > Its a thread about why she is hated now and not why she WAS hated 3 to 4 months ago. Learn present and past tensed wording. This is bizarre. Which part of me saying that her kit's problem being rooted at the fundamental design level do you not understand? Imagine old Urgot, whose kit presented a problem so big Riot had to dumpster him for 5 years straight. So in your logic, was old Urgot's design suddenly not a problem because he was and had to be balanced at the level where he was literally dog shit due to the fundamental design issues the kit had? Of course not, a problematic kit being trashed because it's impossible to balance doesn't suddenly mean the kit no longer has problems. The same goes for Zoe; before her design is actually changed, she will always be a bane to balance like Urgot and some others were/are, as the kit breaks at the design level and requires a re-design to properly solve; and ofc, before the arrival of re-design, a kit like that would continuously attract at least certain level of hate unless it's literally in a state of being completely unviable. ......... Holy shit, I never know I have to go so far to explain such a simple concept and so many times and you still intentionally refuse to comprehend any of it just so you can spew more of your judgemental BS.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EGXfFxfx,comment-id=000200020001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-30T18:59:28.130+0000) > > This is bizarre. Which part of me saying that her kit's problem being rooted at the fundamental design level do you not understand? > > Imagine old Urgot, whose kit presented a problem so big Riot had to dumpster him for 5 years straight. So in your logic, was old Urgot's design suddenly not a problem because he was and had to be balanced at the level where he was literally dog shit due to the fundamental design issues the kit had? > > Of course not, a problematic kit being trashed because it's impossible to balance doesn't suddenly mean the kit no longer has problems. > > The same goes for Zoe; before her design is actually changed, she will always be a bane to balance like Urgot and some others were/are, as the kit breaks at the design level and requires a re-design to properly solve; and ofc, before the arrival of re-design, a kit like that would continuously attract at least certain level of hate unless it's literally in a state of being completely unviable. > > ......... > > Holy shit, I never know I have to go so far to explain such a simple concept and so many times and you still intentionally refuse to comprehend any of it just so you can spew more of your judgemental BS. What part of "she is no longer a problem and her most problematic issues have been resolved" do you not understand? What part of " im talking about zoe of TODAY and not zoe of 3 to 4 months ago" do you not understand? Zoe is not a problem right now. ALL of her issues have been dealt with to a point that she could finally be buffed. So why are you still whining about her? You are complaining for nothing and you keep saying her kit is "problematic". her kit is completely fine.
SEKAI (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=ChristmasEvelynn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EGXfFxfx,comment-id=000200020001000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-30T16:37:34.830+0000) > > who cares how the hell she was released, what matters is that NOW she is balanced. literally no one maxes W anymore on her and she is dependent on landing E and Q to kill people. so quit your bitching about something that happened 3-4 months ago and worry about whats happening currently in the game. zoe is fine right now. > > as for my point? quit. your. crying. zoe. is. fine. thats my point, clear as day. You again fail to read. The keywords also included "many elements (most of her kit, actually) in her kit being horribly designed and straight up unbalanceable". Also, this thread is NOT even a balance thread. It's a thread about why Zoe is hated. And I elaborated exactly just that, that a champ released mindblowingly OP with tons of highly questionable design that are nigh impossible to truly balance both individually and together as a package, is obviously a clear recipe for disaster and a magnet to attract hatred from fellow players. Funny how you are calling me "crying" when it is you who burst your way into the party room and shouting at people for no real reason.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EGXfFxfx,comment-id=0002000200010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-30T16:43:33.479+0000) > > You again fail to read. > > The keywords also included "many elements (most of her kit, actually) in her kit being horribly designed and straight up unbalanceable". > > Also, this thread is NOT even a balance thread. It's a thread about why Zoe is hated. And I elaborated exactly just that, that a champ released mindblowingly OP with tons of highly questionable design that are nigh impossible to truly balance both individually and together as a package, is obviously a clear recipe for disaster and a magnet to attract hatred from fellow players. > > Funny how you are calling me "crying" when it is you who burst your way into the party room and shouting at people for no real reason. Its a thread about why she is hated now and not why she WAS hated 3 to 4 months ago. All those issues have been resolved and therfore all of your reasons are invalid and moot. Learn present and past tensed wording.
SEKAI (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=ChristmasEvelynn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EGXfFxfx,comment-id=0002000200010000,timestamp=2018-10-30T16:27:27.513+0000) > > that video is 3 months old and before she got gutted, proving my point above. just stop already and delete your posts It's not my problem if you couldn't read. I never said Zoe is broken OP now, I very specifically said that she was released OP as shit, and with many elements (most of her kit, actually) in her kit being horribly designed and straight up unbalanceable; hence the serial gutting being even required in the first place. It can't get any easier that this. That video perfectly encapsulates _partly_ why she was broken as balls, as there is not a single burst mage who could miss all of their spells and just turn around and kill the opponent with AA anyway. I am not even sure what point of yours is even supposedly proved here.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EGXfFxfx,comment-id=00020002000100000000,timestamp=2018-10-30T16:31:05.508+0000) > > It's not my problem if you couldn't read. > > I never said Zoe is broken OP now, I very specifically said that she was released OP as shit, and with many elements (most of her kit, actually) in her kit being horribly designed and straight up unbalanceable; hence the serial gutting being even required in the first place. > > It can't get any easier that this. That video perfectly encapsulates why she was broken as balls, as there is not a single burst mage who could miss all of their spells and just turn around and kill the opponent with AA anyway. I am not even sure what point of yours is even supposedly proved here. who cares how the hell she was released, what matters is that NOW she is balanced. literally no one maxes W anymore on her and she is dependent on landing E and Q to kill people. so quit your bitching about something that happened 3-4 months ago and worry about whats happening currently in the game. zoe is fine right now. as for my point? quit. your. crying. zoe. is. fine. thats my point, clear as day.
SEKAI (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EGXfFxfx,comment-id=00020002,timestamp=2018-10-30T15:22:18.212+0000) > > She could never miss everything and one shot people. Lich bane does more than her passive does, and you dont see veigars missing Qs one shotting with autos. https://clips.twitch.tv/InexpensiveRamshackleTaroDansGame Zoe missed everything that she could possibly miss, basically everything except Ignite and AA, and still killed QT. EDIT: And that was without Lichbane, both squishies were sort of equally fed, and in the stage where there was only 1 completed item.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EGXfFxfx,comment-id=000200020001,timestamp=2018-10-30T15:48:02.660+0000) > > https://clips.twitch.tv/InexpensiveRamshackleTaroDansGame > > Zoe missed everything that she could possibly miss, basically everything except Ignite and AA, and still killed QT. > > EDIT: And that was without Lichbane, both squishies were sort of equally fed, and in the stage where there was only 1 completed item. that video is 3 months old and before she got gutted, proving my point above. just stop already and delete your posts
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