Rioter Comments
: 2019 Rework Schedule - Hypothetical & Realistic
i made a joke the year before last that shaco rework wont be until 2020 or 2021. seems that joke might be reality, yikes. what a shame because his rework has the potential to be the best one thematically if they go hard with the joker theme.
: I LOVE Zoe,!!! Thank you Riot!! <3 ;)
being bias is better than being a sheep. nothing was wrong with zoe compared to others who bursted harder with zero effort and have insane winrates. {{champion:103}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:136}} {{champion:136}} in particular how long has he been just blatantly the best mid with a winrate of 55%? zoe is now sitting at 44% winrate because you HARD nerf a champion that was sitting at 48-49%. last patch she was actually in a decent spot.
saltran (EUW)
: EU LCS caster wants to remove Zoe from the game.
she has been gutted down to 44% winrate. what more do you want?
Rioter Comments
SEKAI (OCE)
: Can we talk about how bullshit Jax is?
We bitching about jax now? The last good bruiser top laner left? Really guys?
Gawdyr2G (NA)
: Can you please fucking give Trynamere a new passive so he can stop luckily killing me level 1?
Ur problem and everyone elses problem is fighting and going all in at lvl 1 period. Ppl need to just chill during lane phase.
Rioter Comments
: Zoe is an unrepentant deity that has zero respect for human life. Her color story even goes into this--how being responsible for killing everyone in an entire village does not affect her in the slightest and she just goes on her merry way with a shrug. Basically, Zoe is a psychopath.
> [{quoted}](name=FattyDrake,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AJetig8a,comment-id=00050002,timestamp=2018-08-14T21:04:27.100+0000) > > Zoe is an unrepentant deity that has zero respect for human life. Her color story even goes into this--how being responsible for killing everyone in an entire village does not affect her in the slightest and she just goes on her merry way with a shrug. Basically, Zoe is a psychopath. Or maybe she doesn't see death as a bad thing considering she knows what the afterlife is?
Rioter Comments
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: Ahri 54.5% win rate now
ahri mains are going to downvote u to hell for insulting their waifu. whenever ahri is strong she is cancerous
Ray 701 (EUW)
: Nerfing Damage Runes is not enough - we need our Resistances back
i think most of these changes should indirectly make resolve stronger. there was a time where everyone would take an offensive mastery tree and defensive mastery tree to balance out damage, now everyone is taking double offensive trees. maybe resolve as a secondary tree in mid and bot lane becomes a thing if they further buff the resolve tree slightly.
: Current meta in a nutshell
Are we talking before after they added barrier as a summoner to rift? Because before barrier ignite was taken bot and mid almost all the time. After barrier you only seen barrier as a direct counter to ignite.
: Patch 8.16 - "Wukong's burst damage is too high for a champion"
Wu mid cheese has been a thing for years. It took a lcs big play for riot to notice. Ridiculous excuse for a balance team.
: Too many champions are dumpstered because of pros.
Add92 (NA)
: I mean bronze / silver / unranked is kind of the same overall :/
> [{quoted}](name=Add92,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HlrE9Ono,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-08-14T23:14:00.335+0000) > > I mean bronze / silver / unranked is kind of the same overall :/ Stop with this bullshit. The skill difference between unranked/bronze and mid to high silver is huge. Silver is a race of who can get fed off the unranked or bronze duo partner/player the fastest.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: So why isn't it fine to nerf a champion who has 54% win rate 10% pick rate in plat and 53% win rate 9% pick rate in diamond or plat should be deemed low elo as well?
> [{quoted}](name=D357R0Y3R,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oqZOEVgI,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-08-14T09:47:13.532+0000) > > So why isn&#x27;t it fine to nerf a champion who has 54% win rate 10% pick rate in plat and 53% win rate 9% pick rate in diamond > > or plat should be deemed low elo as well? plat has always been considered low elo. This is because "mid" elo is non existent to this community
: What if Nunu's ult applied True Slow during the channel
> [{quoted}](name=Khristophoros,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rGaKEIa7,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-08-14T10:10:26.772+0000) > > Ignores all forms of slow reduction, immunity, tenacity, etc... and uncleansable. Just imagine it. > > I wouldn&amp;#039;t be surprised if this is already planned. Broken. Slows are better than stuns depending on duration and slow amount especially if its aoe. No need for a "true" slow
Rioter Comments
: Just popping in here as the playtester who worked on Evelynn. We didn't try this on Evelynn but we suspected that players would've liked the button mashy input and wanted to keep it. We did experiment with the press and hold input on other content and found that it was generally unsatisfying.
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Novalas,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AVYRw0Yw,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2018-08-13T19:00:35.351+0000) > > Just popping in here as the playtester who worked on Evelynn. > > We didn&#x27;t try this on Evelynn but we suspected that players would&#x27;ve liked the button mashy input and wanted to keep it. We did experiment with the press and hold input on other content and found that it was generally unsatisfying. one of the reasons i dont play eve every single game is because it physically hurts and tires out my pinky after awhile of mashing those buttons. ive played her so long tho that i just got use to it and overlook it now.
: The only problem is more sparkles being non-targeted, and ignite procing electrocute.
> [{quoted}](name=TitanAnteus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lEG43nnk,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-08-12T17:23:10.246+0000) > > The only problem is more sparkles being non-targeted, and ignite procing electrocute. its because her W also allows for a ton of passive procs. her passive also has no CD.
: Zoe Nerfs are targeted correctly
> [{quoted}](name=Lord Loki1987,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lEG43nnk,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-08-12T09:24:56.039+0000) > > Hi All, > > > So I&amp;#039;m looking at the 8.16 patch notes and seeing a lot of changes, but the one I think Riot hit the nail on the head with is the Zoe nerfs. She misses Q, missed E, but still can kill you. The nerfs to her Passive and W are exactly what is needed to stop this. For once I think the Balancing team got it RIGHT! > > Could it be they are LEARNING? =O > > -- Loki -- nerfing a champions numbers until they are more useless than dog shit is not the correct way to balance a champion. in terms of straight damage i can name several that does more damage than her. the REAL problem is her spam use of her W. she can use 5+ summoners with zero CD. not only that but the active on her W also has no CD when she does this so she just spews out damage from both the summoners and W active. THAT is the problem. not Q + E 1 shot
: Reminder Ahri now has a 54% win rate
sry, everyone too busy bitching about {{champion:142}} like drooling idiotic sheep on a bandwagon that they cant see who the true terrors of mid lane a re right now. {{champion:238}} {{champion:103}} {{champion:136}} and soon {{champion:84}} after her inevitable buff and once people learn how to play her. {{champion:45}} is a sleeper too, and even while sleeping he is still insanely good.
Zerenza (NA)
: So because you have to land a skill shot there's no counterplay, sucks man.
> [{quoted}](name=Zerenza,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6OBkEb6u,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-08-11T13:30:17.335+0000) > > So because you have to land a skill shot there&#x27;s no counterplay, sucks man. You think her W is a skillshot? next level of stupid that i cant comprehend.
: That Victorious Time Again
they usually do champs that have surprise performances in tournament play. all champs that have victorious skins are or have been highly competitive picks.
LeAnime (NA)
: AP Fighters Are Missing a Lot
what AP fighters? {{champion:131}} is an assassin lol. you can pretend she isnt all you want lol
: Ahri kind of oppressive now?
scarra said she sucked, so riot buffed her. that simple.
Jamaree (NA)
: I want to point out the only elos she has a positive win rate in is in Diamond+ where most players don't resign.
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EY9krwtA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-10T13:09:06.814+0000) > > I want to point out the only elos she has a positive win rate in is in Diamond+ where most players don&#x27;t resign. Even in diamond its a 49% winrate. Sol meanwhile still sitting at 55% rofl
: 16 patches later and finally season 8 is on track.
Season 8 is not on track lol unless you mean a track of failure.
Xavanic (NA)
: Why are there more zoe nerfs?
Zoes problem: "she bursts my 800 hp pool too hard riot! Pls nerf till she is useless!" Same story every time a dedicated burst mage or assasin is released. She is no less problematic than getting AOE stuned by a veigar or syndra and getting deleted. Zoe isnt even hard to balance correctly if you are competent which the balance team isnt. From the very start her CDs were just way to low. Maybe also put CDs on the W summoners she uses so that she cant chain 3 flashes and 3 ignites. Dont even need to touch her dmg. OR give her W summoner charges. Maybe 2 or 3 befor it goes on a very long CD to collect more sums. Doing either will indirectly nerf her dmg anyway because she cant chain her bolts and passive as much. And yes im saying im a better balancer than anyone on the balance team. Riots "philosophy" of not touching a champions unique trait is whats killing them. In this case its zoe free use of summoners and NOT her damage.
Yenn (NA)
: Only roughly 50 / 141 champions are viable if you want to climb to/above Diamond
Can confirm. Its always been like this tho with the exception of the early seasons pre 5. Im a person that likes to literally play all the champs if im in the mood for it. Its surprising how many champs are actually good, like amumu, but are completely outclassed by other champs so badly that they are made to look bad. Its near impossible to climb with champs that cant compete with the champs RIOT chooses to be strong. And yes they do favoritism champs hardcore. Lux buffs yas buffs lee buffs to name a few recent examples. They hardcore buffed lux for several patches straight and even flat out said they were not stopping until lux was above average. They litteraly said this and accomplished it. Meanwhile {{champion:143}} is still not seen mid lane and has not been mid lane since her initial release despite it being her intended role. Sure i can force zyra mid, only to get outclassed by {{champion:238}} {{champion:103}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:136}} {{champion:142}} and even {{champion:25}} mid
: how do i lane against teemo
Simple. Outscale him. Stay under ur turret and farm. Just about all top lanes Outscale teemo. If ur a tank and u survive lane phase for 10 mins then he will do literally zero damage if built properly. His attacks heals mundo for example.
Xavanic (NA)
: Why are there more zoe nerfs?
Ur gonna get 100 downvotes. Zoe is fine but the community treats her as the 2nd coming of teemo so Therefore she will be nerfed to teemo level. Good in lane and 1v1s but cant carry a game and is dependent on others to carry instead.
: When will people learn that 99% of Riot's balance changes for pro-play either don't *affect* normal players, or are nerfs solely to make champions less OP at that tier?
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ON1bgBGr,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-09T17:36:10.281+0000) > > When will people learn that 99% of Riot&#x27;s balance changes for pro-play either don&#x27;t *affect* normal players, or are nerfs solely to make champions less OP at that tier? Explain yas and lee buffs then, buffs so massive it effects low elo aswell and clearly made with lcs in mind after yas got fucked up by a wukong.
: It's to stop her from double tapping it, so that the player doesn't accidentally waste the second dash or use it as an escape along with the mini stun. It's good
> [{quoted}](name=AnAggravatedPimp,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UurmlTAM,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-08T23:44:00.785+0000) > > It&#x27;s to stop her from double tapping it, so that the player doesn&#x27;t accidentally waste the second dash or use it as an escape along with the mini stun. It&#x27;s good Which can be accomplished at 1.5 seconds
Zaghyr (NA)
: Runes Reforged Mass Rework (Very Long Post)
ive been saying this since the launch of "runes" reforged and ill say it again. "Runes" reforged is simply the MASTERY system reworked. all they did was change the name from "mastery" to runes and deleted runes entirely. imagine season 7 with ONLY the mastery system. that is what we have right now. yes the runes reforged system gives flat stats, but its impossible to customize those stats to your liking and is entirely dependent on the tree combination you are choosing.
: I'm confused tho,isn't hecarim dogshit right now? Haven't even seen a hec in litteraly 3 months and I've been playing regularly.
> [{quoted}](name=TheKingOfBiches,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YO3t9JAh,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2018-08-08T23:57:18.998+0000) > > I&#x27;m confused tho,isn&#x27;t hecarim dogshit right now? Haven&#x27;t even seen a hec in litteraly 3 months and I&#x27;ve been playing regularly. no, he isnt dogshit. he simply isnt a POPULAR jungle. just because a champ isnt popular does not mean they are not dogshit, it simply means people are abusing shit that is more broken. hec is sitting comfortably at 50% close to 51% winrate. his ganks are still among the best with predator and so is his engages.
: >zoe is finally getting deleted from mid lane next patch ZoE DId nOThInG wRoNG
> [{quoted}](name=Lolman978,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YO3t9JAh,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-08-08T22:24:51.712+0000) > > ZoE DId nOThInG wRoNG she didnt, her designers did.
PooWho (NA)
: I just can't believe people go to their 805 job to BALANCE A VIDEO GAME, and this is what they come up with. I can't wrap my head behind how someone can sit there for 8 hours a day, thinking of the BEST balance decisions, and this meta is created. The artists at Riot Games are great though.
> [{quoted}](name=PooWho,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YO3t9JAh,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-08-08T17:07:38.471+0000) > > I just can&#x27;t believe people go to their 805 job to BALANCE A VIDEO GAME, and this is what they come up with. I can&#x27;t wrap my head behind how someone can sit there for 8 hours a day, thinking of the BEST balance decisions, and this meta is created. The artists at Riot Games are great though. awhile ago riot had a intern program for gameplay team and those interns played the game casually. idk if its still in effect, but im guessing those interns are now full timers. for the last few seasons now rank play has been one giant experiment for them that end up as a failure. i cant think of a single NEW gameplay change that they implemented that has actually been good for the game. not only that but the changes they make completely contradicted previous changes they have made. for example they made a HUGE deal about global passives, but later on they add the elemental dragons where you get a global 12% damage increase passive... as if that is ok and not completely hypocritical to their past philosophy on global passives... "durr well tf and janna passive wasnt ok cuz it uh... it uh... umm... it affected everyone! but fire and wind dragon are ok because it err... well... it... it affects everyone! yea thats it." its like they dont take notes when they make changes. or they simply lack standards. or both.
Rioter Comments
: Yasuo has been the most banned champion for months now.
> [{quoted}](name=205181825,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I8PcKw9a,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-08-08T01:21:52.592+0000) > > How does Riot respond? > > Last Breath (R) bonus AD increased from 150% to 250% thats a stupidly massive buff. riot is trolling at this point
: Why is Yasuo getting his ult buffed? Here's some simple math to show how unnecessary it will be.
why is it getting buffed you asked? why, my child, that is a simple question to answer.... so he can be seen more in LCS of course! why do you think they buffed lee?
Ventace (NA)
: Akali rework really is bad.
My main problem with her is her energy cost on Q and the fact that energy in general is not supported by the game in anyform except blue buff. A rune that gave 50 energy or faster energy regen would be amazing for any energy champ. Her Q energy cost forces her to be absolute shit in lane phase, which is the most important phase. But i guess the idea is to cs under shroud till spike. Personaly i hate that kind of gameplay design. Champs that are pure shit till x item or x mins of csing. It tllts me since im an aggro player.
: Akali has a 38% winrate mid
diana litterally does what old akali did, and diana right now is simply better than new akali because of it. new akali isnt bad, she just requires alot of set up compared to just Q+Ring someone to death. she needs to connect her entire kit of abilities to burst someone, but once people learn that she can just set up while in shroud she wont be able to be 1v1ed.
: Everyone knows Professor Akali...
> [{quoted}](name=Meat Feast,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MAGahunt,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-02-17T03:32:39.139+0000) > > And everyone knows a good Akali is literally unstoppable with gunblade. Huge heals, Ridiculous on-hit dmg, long duration invisibility, and impossible to get away from. > > Everyone has watched Professor Akali raape low elos and make money on youtube from it, and now everyone else wants to do it. > > She needs a nerf. Maybe nerfing her invisibility. You mean that guy that plays draft normals and makes akali and other champs he play look op by pub stomping lvl 5s? Ya i know of him
Enjy (NA)
: Riot, now that the Akali rework is live, please don't make the same mistake.
You mean the same mistake they make every new champ release or rework? This is riot we are talking about here
Glîtchy (NA)
: WHn are they gonna nerf Zoe?
> [{quoted}](name=Glîtchy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mi2edYJK,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-08-03T03:50:09.425+0000) > > Seriously, her paddle star is NOT ok, I was hit by it when I was asleep and she had luden&amp;#039;s echo + sorcerer&amp;#039;s and I took 1520 Magic damage + 390 true damage, who&amp;#039;s the idiot who thought these numbers were okay? You literally had zero mr if her q did that dmg
: But that's not what_ this_ video is about, you **CLEARLY DID NOT WATCH.** I admit he's a meme but the title actually caught my eye and was worth the watch.
> [{quoted}](name=205181825,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QucEVwmT,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-02T23:51:26.086+0000) > > But that&#x27;s not what_ this_ video is about, you **CLEARLY DID NOT WATCH.** > > I admit he&#x27;s a meme but the title actually caught my eye and was worth the watch. Does it really matter what its about? Its hash raging about something lol.
WøOxer (EUW)
: Can't remember when I saw Diana in my games. 1 out of 100?
> [{quoted}](name=WøOxer,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JTwjhaKJ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-02T12:34:18.770+0000) > > Can&#x27;t remember when I saw Diana in my games. 1 out of 100? Completely not the point. Her kit is as bad as old akali
: Don't delete Zoe BUT: Do rework her kit so at least the lore can stay
Zoe struggles to win games. She is like old yorick. She can hard win her lane and 1v1 very easily, but hard for her to actually solo carry a game. There are far worse champions to worry about right now like quinn but people are still onboard of this zoe hate wagon.
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