redbuck1 (NA)
: You don't have to pay for them, they're going to be free.
What about the rune/mastery pages? You'd have to pay to have more right?
: Not really her quote makes her more like lawful protector if anything. I don't think her quotw fits with braum at all, if anything the new lore has more of a thematic match to her quotes.
A protector seems like someone Braum would hang out with. Her new lore makes her someone Vayne would hang out with, if she wasn't possessed by a space person.
: But her mentor used black magic? To Vayne all black magic users are subhuman animals, they deserve no mercy because they have become corrupted to the point that it is a mercy to end their lives. If Vayne spared her life that would go against everything she would purport to stand for.
We know why she did it. We just dislike that she did it, especially when for several people, it was a 180 from what we thought about her.
: While she did receive more actual retcons than Vayne did, I think Leona is the absolute poster child for this. Her new Lore took the popular fanon traits (Kind, all-loving, noble protector) and said "actually, not really, she's part of a religious cult that genocided their rivals, her morals are pretty warped and she's done some awful things" and people were REALLY mad about that. There were other aspects of Leona's new Lore that were pretty poorly received (mostly the actually retconned parts), but I think that's a part of it.
To be fair, as someone who plays a lot of Leona, her quotes make her seem like someone Braum would hang out with.
: I think the point was that some champions stick out like a sore thumb when you look at them, even if their gameplay doesn't. {{champion:32}} and {{champion:45}} 's model and waddle walk, {{champion:25}} 's rigid dress, {{champion:82}} {{champion:53}} and {{champion:36}} 's massive pizza feet, {{champion:20}} in general. Those champions that don't look like they belong in the same game as {{champion:268}} {{champion:236}} {{champion:201}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:89}} . You can debate how much their kits need work or not, but the point remains that visually they're so far behind they look like they belong.
My point is that it takes time to update these champions. I'm worried that with too many teams, with some of them inexperienced at that, the quality of the VGUs will drop. It's like with the class updates, or when Riot released champions every two weeks. More content, but some of it wasn't good.
: I understand what you're saying, but I think it's a shitty misguided approach that makes the entire product of "League of Legends" suffer in favor of short term ADHD gain. Players want new champs. They spend money and the chinese overlords are pleased with the profits. I completely understand. The ~~spice~~ RP must flow. But you know what, no matter how many fidget spinning children you appease with the _**totally radical new champ**_, that won't magically make Morgana stop looking like a repugnant outdated pile of festering rancid trash from 2009, completely out of place in the increasingly improved game in 2017. In recent years, League has began improving from its stagnant state, from the client, to the lore, to the champ design, champ VO, etc. The quality bar has been raised on all fronts. And now you're telling me that "eyy we don't need to update shit lol gotta make dem new chimps boi" No sir, I disagree completely. Until League's oldest and most problematic champs are brought up to the standards of the rest of the game, I'm of the opinion that VGU's should be prioritized.
They're still updating old champs, they're just balancing it with making new ones. Some of the new champs, like Jhin, end up fleshing out older champs like Zed and Shen anyway. Even from gameplay, some new champs influence the kits of older ones.
Zahlfast (NA)
: No, it absolutely does not feel fair. The only reason I spent 6,300 IP per page was because it was essentially required to enter a game not at a competitive disadvantage for a role and / or match-up. If I could, I would sell down to the basic 2 pages you start with and simply edit every game. Instead I will now have extra worthless pages that could have been 3 or 4 champions I don't own.
These runes are literally combining current masteries and runes together. Unless you have two mastery pages that you edit for 3-4 champions, why would the extra rune pages feel worthless?
: Buying Runes Between Now and Preseason
You guys have done a ton of gameplay modernizing over the years. I know that Runes Reforged is months away, but what comes next after this?
: What a bold idea, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
That's exactly what you're doing isn't it?
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=WaterIily,realm=EUW,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=hFIemE4p,comment-id=000b00000002,timestamp=2017-07-20T05:52:15.581+0000) > > I hope we can expect a keystone for enchanters (Nami, Lulu, Janna, Soraka) {{champion:267}} {{champion:117}} {{champion:40}} a replacement rune keystone for windspeaker's blessing. I really hope it'll be something more fun and impactful rather than plain armor and magic resist buff enhancement. Stronger heals and shields seem fine. So keeping that part would be good. I've had good luck with Perxie on some of those champions - her ally shielding is helpful. :) But our goal is to give Enchanters a few choices for keystones depending on how they want to play.
How do we want to play? You've gone into depth with the Domination path, but what do the support paths offer?
: > [{quoted}](name=Wordofmask,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=GEFYQP9Q,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2017-07-20T11:16:28.923+0000) > > You are the reason why I think that this VGU will turn out to be the best in terms of visual. Cheers brother, the whole team is trying their best to make him the best he can be!
Will he have a metal login? I'm not complaining, but we've seen a few metal themes lately. More metal themes.
: > [{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=wi8oBp9d,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-07-19T21:40:09.416+0000) > > i want eve to step on me {{champion:60}} I heard a man loves a woman with legs
Ralanr (NA)
: Some people can't understand the joys of masochism.
: Petition to have a large scale Noxus event with the Noxus update
I'd be surprised if there wasn't considering Noxus' role in the world.
Sharjo (EUW)
: Getting there, but a bit more broad. Many I'm gonna be using that word a lot aren't I?
: > [{quoted}](name=Dunkin Darius,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=hFIemE4p,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-07-19T21:04:40.212+0000) > > no C'mon, Darius will love it!
Please Riot Stashu-dono no yamatay (sp)
Sharjo (EUW)
: Oh ok for me that's a bit higher. How about Sweetheart then?
I feel like you and I have different appeals regarding Sona, but that's interesting nonetheless.
Sharjo (EUW)
: You're on the right track, but think broader than that.
Sharjo (EUW)
: Oh god erm... I wanna say Guqin.
Sharjo (EUW)
: I think you can figure it... {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Ok, but on a scale of Silent Night Sona, to DJ Sona, how would you rate her new look?
Sharjo (EUW)
: Ok the what else can be point is fair, though I wouldn't peg Nocturne as a demon just yet. He's gotta be updated yet before anything's certain there. Lust is a tool Evelynn would definetly use, but it's not what she embodies. What demons individually embody is far more broad than a concept like lust or hunger. There's an overlying element there. Sorry for being vague, but I don't wanna just spell this stuff out; I'd rather you took a swing at figuring it. I'd encourage you to look at Evelynn and Tahm individually, see what they're about down to their core, and figure from that what they embody.
If I had to take a guess, spreading misery of some kind and enjoying it.
Chtullu (NA)
: THE KING IN THE NORTH !! THE KING IN THE NORTH !! (Damn they are all Queens...) ^^
I wouldn't mind serving Sejuani.
Arakadia (NA)
: Yeah but look at a bunch of the new reworks. Urgot got beefy and doesn't have his pudgy fat beer belly, Galio is like a comic super hero and has a super macho muscle look. Ryze is even pretty freaking fit.
Yes but Urgot is still a monster, and Galio is still ~~a gargoyle~~ made from stone.
: {{champion:240}} already has both a bio and short story. {{champion:6}} sometime within these 2 weeks. Assuming the Noxus update will follow same standards of the Demacia update, non-central character could be left out. {{champion:122}} {{champion:55}} unlikely they give up the opportunity to touch on these guys. {{champion:7}} {{champion:8}} both are Swain's allies in the Black Rose, if one had to be omitted it would probably be Vlad tbh. {{champion:69}} {{champion:14}} both only need bios so it should be easy enough to squeeze them in. {{champion:92}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:119}} these don't have central roles in Noxus' politics and have the highest chances of being left out. Talon from his current lore, has resigned himself to searching for General Du Couteau, Riven has left Noxus and Draven is but Urgot's replacement and a pawn in a grander scheme. We could probably also expect a Noxus story similar to what we got with almost every other region, where multiple champions are involved or a story about the empire itself.
I know Urgot was born in Noxus, but he seems to be a part of the Zaunite narrative now. I think LB, Darius, and Kat are the most likely to get lore.
Sharjo (EUW)
: 1. What makes you so certain she's a demon? 2. What makes you think such a thing as a demon of lust can occur in Runeterra?
I mean, what else can she be? A spirit, which can still be a demon? A zombie/ghost like the others in the Isle? Something unique? We don't know. Can demons of lust occur? We have a nightmare demon, and a crossroads demon.
Sharjo (EUW)
: 1. Next champion is a vanguard tank 2. Evelynn's shaping up nicely 3. Xin Zhao's up for a gameplay update soon, most likely before Aatrox since Xin's changes are much smaller in scope 4. Azir's still being figured 5. Swain's the VGU coming out after Evelynn
When you say, shaping up, what do you mean? For artistic purposes.
Nylisa (EUW)
: yes what confuses me is the description following up after it "self-reliant vanguard" are we looking at a new type of tank?! cause so far most tanks act as damage absorbers,not much of a self reliance in solo fights.
I'm imagining lots of heals and shields.
Ralanr (NA)
: Well that and the Freljord has enough tanks.
You can never have enough big burly people in the north.
Sharjo (EUW)
: Quite old. Far more so than Vayne. She's certainly not human.
I want to ask what is she, but I'm guessing that's something we have to wait for. Why is she in the Shadow Isles, or is she even still tied to that place?
Sharjo (EUW)
: Yeah it's Vayne for sure. Evelynn's been around.
So Eve has a group of worshipers? How does one join?
Sharjo (EUW)
: These guys also did Ryze at least. Their narrative writer Interlocutioner only started with Warwick, so Swain will be his third champion. Conversely Evelynn's team did Galio, Yorick and Poppy if memory serves.
Wait, Warwick was that writer's first champion story? No disrespect, but I hope Swain's narrative is better. I liked Galio and the others, so I'm excited.
: Please Riot, keep Swain aged and with a malfunctioning leg!
I can't see why they would change his age considering they kept Urgot mechanical and ugly, and Sion undead.
: but they just announce it already that 5 teams that can do either VGU/New Champ but i don't know if they started this already.
It takes time and quality to develop a team, and lots of coordination. You don't want a champion done poorly because an inexperienced team is trying to meet deadlines. 5 is fine. People just need to be patient.
: Name a champion and I'll tell you why they are unfun bullshit
{{champion:15}} {{champion:14}} {{champion:20}}
: Women Champions Ranked by Deadlift
Just because someone is a magical being or deity doesn't mean they have vast amounts of physical strength.
: {{champion:498}} and {{champion:497}} are Vastaya .... but they belong to the Ionian Faction .. sooo
SatomiKun (EUW)
: The last 3 champions we got belong to Ionia, though. ô.o {{champion:498}} {{champion:497}} {{champion:141}}
: New Freljord champ? It's been a while so that'll be awesome.
Targon is pretty cold too. Some parts of Ionia. Lord knows we need another Ionian champion.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: Katarina has no magical powers. She could teleport in her old gameplay but now she just moves ''very fast'', so fast it is blink type.
We don't know that. Her lore is outdated, and never talked about her abilities beyond being an assassin.
: aren't those tank items? i'm not sure, it's what i build on tanks these days so they tank items imho
Häxel (EUW)
: Scroll up for the Gameplayanswer. As far as "thematically" things like that shoulnd't be much going into balanceupdates. But i can answer this too: Why should garen as a Demcian be good Vs Mages? These Guys normaly don't have Magic and for this reason, they built Galio to protect them for Magic. Garen fought enemies like Urgot, Darius and Sion. Yes, kata too. But she's an assassin who deals magic dmg, not a mage. Now on Dr: Mundos case he experimented far wtih Chemicals and his own Body and in his Image a syringe sticks still in his body. For this he could accidentally gained more magic resist during his experiments (he could shot it himself purposly even too)
Demacian soldiers have anti-magic weapons. Galio is just their strongest.
: Riot, Can I just ask for one thing. Could you include less cliffhangers in the lore?
Their relationship hasn't been defined because it's not the focus of their characters, compared to TF and Graves. If we ever got a Burning Tides version of Zaun, I imagine that their relationship will be expanded upon.
Zerana (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Velzard of Koz,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=EumpVy3u,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-07-18T17:20:37.913+0000) > > This world needs Pizza Delivery Aurelion Sol more. > Pizza Q. > Meatballs Passive. > The skin will make this game ascend into divine level. Naw man reserve him the flying spaghetti monster one.
: IMO, players who are using a TI-83 don't deserve to play MOBAs.
They're one of the least graphically intensive games.
: Regarding Kayn's (now canon) homosexual tendencies and his relationship with Zed
I thought he was kidding when he said yes. Joking on the senpai meme.
: The last time Katarina was mentioned in regard to Cassiopeia, the Fields of Justice was actually a thing. Since then: Mordekaiser's become a millennia old king that is repeatedly reincarnated through a suit of armor. Galio's no longer a gargoyle but a giant magic absorbing statue. Trundle's no longer is a rotting troll that absorbed the flesh-curse of his village, thereby dooming them without remorse. Zac's parents are dead and he's batman even though his entire story was about him loving his parents and getting a proper upbringing by them. WARWICK... Oh god warwick.
Zac still loves his parents and tries to help people.
: Sounds like the game just has to be put into a new engine altogether. Heroes of the Storm never has this kind of problem.
Wouldn't that mean a major systems requirement change? A lot of players have old computers.
: > [{quoted}](name=Chromatic Eagle,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=BtoVq4qy,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-07-11T00:28:14.685+0000) > > Them chants homie My first (and probably last) attempt at singing on my music :D I had to capitalize on that nasty cold.
You should get more nasty colds. For the art.
: Does any content above 1350 RP go on sale?
I think those are early sales.
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