: Thanks for the invitation. I could go on for days about his design but I'll try to start with some reasoning around how we ended up where we did. Off the bat your instincts are correct Aphelios' design had to be simple to support the weapons he carries as they need to be fairly clear at all times. I tried to fuse the robes of a religious priest with the classic look of a secret agent (tactical turtleneck!) to create a clear aesthetic that drives his theme. Comparing him to Diana I actually tried to carefully replicate the same materials seen in her design, but arranged very differently. She is a Rakkor raised by the Solari who found the ancient armour of the aspect of the moon - a warrior-avatar of the forgotten Lunari sect. By contrast Aphelios is a monk of sorts, equal parts minimalist utilitarian (the black suit) and divine ritualist (the holy robes). He's not dressed to take a hit, he's dressed to perform a ceremony. He is also dressed in the way of the modern Lunari which have likely made changes particularly because they are few and living in hiding. When they walk amongst the Rakkor they must hide their true selves so when they are free to wear what they want rich forbidden colours are on display. Were Diana welcomed to the modern Lunari I could see them dressing her similarly to Alune for a religious event, celebrating the return of their scion. I'll also just point out that LoL champions represent the most extraordinary characters in the world of Runeterra. They are the ones that really stand out from a background of fantasy tropes. LoR is a great example of what the rest of the world look like but in LoL we are focused on the exceptions to the rules. The weapons were a much longer journey, being designed and redesigned over and over. Originally they were wholly moonsilver like Diana's blade. Diana's blade seems to be able to launch out beams of moonlight, so it's not at all a stretch to see that honed into a projectile weapon, but Aphelios is so different to the rest of the Lunari (and the Rakkor in general) we felt it needed a unique material. Something rare and potentially fragile, something only wielded by him, held and empowered by his sister's magic, something once enervated would be useless to allies and enemies alike. Shaping the moonstone was then a careful balance between the Lunari theme and the gameplay requirements. For each weapon I imagined how he would hold it and tried to connect them to weapons other marksman wield as a way to ensure that if you play LoL, playing as or against Aphelios you'd immediately have some idea of what was going to happen next (oh it's like Caitlyn's rifle, oh it's like Gnar's boomberang etc). Every day I'd have people come by and I'd ask them to guess what each weapon did until I was reliably getting correct answers. On top of that each one was tied to a celestial phenomenon - this served to further reinforce gameplay (Black hole has a CC effect) and give them a colour identity to support gameplay learning and recognition. I imagined the Lunari sort of like the Eldar in 40k, sculpting these smooth graceful shapes inspired by the phases of the moon, swooping crescents and curves of the phases, orbits of the moon, flow of the tides. The one additional element, a flourish added when they were weaponised, the carved ridges present on 4 of the 5 that mimic the shape of the flower 'moonbloom' from which Aphelios' tonic is drawn. The weapons are very sci-fi, his whole aesthetic is quite future-fantasy, but that is a side of Mt Targon; at the base you have the hardy and Hellenistic Rakkor, but the higher you go up the mountain the more alien things become until you reach the top and touch a wholly unnatural space. Each character has different amounts of these two elements but bringing them together is what sets Mt Targon apart from other fantasy locales.
I love how Riot has been incorporating sci-fi into traditional fantasy. Part of why I enjoy Kai'Sa.
GreenLore (EUW)
: I don't really feel like most Black Rose members are too dependent on the black rose. Yes Lb stands above them in the hierarchy, but thats pretty natural for any organization. With that being said, I do feel like Elise is kinda redundant among the other black rose members. I mean she is a seductive human/animal-hybrid who is obsessed with beauty, but thats basically{{champion:69}} already. Her sacrificing others in order to survive is likely done by {{champion:8}} too(not sure if it was ever explained how he remains alive, but I'm pretty sure he does it by draining blood from others).
I thought Cass doesn't think she's beautiful anymore, and that's why she's embracing her snake powers?
: Yeah at this point we can not make a full R rated comic. BUT we will see Jhin doing his thing very soon. Though not a full Jhin opera (Issue 2 would be much too early in a 6 book series for that.) Also I will say Jhin's "thing," even when just a crude improvisation by his standards, is pretty f-up and cool.
Infernape (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Chromatic Eagle,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=KTPAGngX,comment-id=00080000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-11T23:21:53.732+0000) > > I'm saying that when you push other champions into the bot lane, adcs get pushed out. To be fair, this is the same shit every other role deals with every so often. Top changes between tanks, fighters, marksmen, mages etc. Jungle does the same and adds assassins into the mix as does mid lane. Hell, even supports have different classes in meta at times. Why should ADCs get a free pass?
Okay, so if adcs get phased out of bot lane, where would you want them to go? Mid? Top? Jungle?
AdamrCc (EUW)
: They are viable in the bot lane, and more than viable top. Literally every ADC from {{champion:18}} to {{champion:236}} to {{champion:67}} shit on melee champions the moment they get picked top. Let's not play the victim here merely because some of these champions have a low winrate. It doesn't necessarily mean that these champs are weak. Certain AD carries also perform incredibly well in the midlane. {{champion:236}}, {{champion:18}}, {{champion:81}}, and {{champion:42}} have seen plenty play in mid lane over the last couple of seasons, and are still viable to this day. t's just that ADC players hardly take the time to learn macro. Most ADC mains I come across have not the slightest clue on what efficient wave management looks like, they hardly try to learn to keep a track of the jungler, and almost never seem to know to play classes other than ADC. Top laners live, breathe, and bathe in jungle pressure and such bullshit matchups they are forced to improve their macro to a point where they start to build a solid understanding of how playing to your champions advantages and covering up for your weaknesses work. That's the only reason when AD carry mains take their Vayne top lane they still get shat on. They just don't understand how bad top lane has it and how top laners have to deal with literally every fucking class of champion being played there, ready to counterpick at a moment's notice. Even when I play top and lock in an immobile champ such as Darius I'm fully prepared to face a Vayne trying to cheese me with a plan on how to play the game in case I mess up and fall behind.
> They are viable in the bot lane I'm saying that when you push other champions into the bot lane, adcs get pushed out. > Literally every ADC from to to shit on melee champions the moment they get picked top. Right, and top laners hate it. You don't think a new meta where melee go bot, and range go top more often is a problem?
AdamrCc (EUW)
: Honestly, I couldn't give a shit about where which champion went. It's that people who exclusively play LoL are so hell bent on forcing themselves in a 1-1-2 meta, it's almost as if they believe not playing an assassin/mage mid, and AD carry + support is trolling. I'd love to see a forced meta getting broken. We'd probably see it broken a long time ago if not for ADC mains crying about restricting bot to marksmen.
The problem is where should adc mains go if they're not viable bot lane? No one wants them top.
: 10 Years of Riot Music
Is there any chance you can make lol music available for YouTube Music? A lot of the videos aren't playable on the app.
: True Damage splash art
Between her theme, and now her skins, Akali is forever known as the hip hop girl.
Mártir (EUW)
: Senna skills :)
See you all in six months when they finally gut her E.
: I’m part of “narrative support” for IPC. It’s a catch all of writers assigned to projects (normally small or limited scope) as they come up.
: Can we get a VO update for Thresh?
While I wouldn’t be against it, he’s not a high priority for Riot.
Xedlord (NA)
: The fact that Kai'sa is uneffected by the void still makes 0 sense.
: Senna Biography
It’s a big comfort for me that Lucian doesn’t agree with Demacia’s treatment of mages. I hope they tie him into that story someday.
Jaspers (EUW)
: So not tormented or a pawn of Thresh? Shame. "Find the Ruined King, and stop him at any cost…" The dudes alive?
: out of the listed, only Kai'sa and now Senna are Mery sues...
Xhaiden (EUNE)
: The marketing team doesn't check the forum, or at least - they never showed any interest in what the community had/has to say about their money making schemes (as they proved through almost every past action). Gambling schemes prey on human weakness - and that's exactly what Riot exploits the most. Even more than that - they're trying to speed-up the gambling process with the current scheme (Little Legends) - by trading quality for quantity. As in... champion skins are far more complex (well, some of them are - mainly Epic and above... cause the majority are more like a suit placed on top of the old model - since they kept the same abilities as the original, same interactions, same taunts, same dances and same voices/audio). Obviously, same can't be said about Little Legends. They don't do much (they have their dance moves and taunts - but other than that - they drag a champion and open a box / there's not much interaction with the actual game). Even the difference between tiers revolve around cosmetics alone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsS5o5hM06M My point is: they're far easier to put together - compared to a champion skin. And since they're part of a permanent gambling scheme.. everyone who's affected by a gambling addiction - should be really careful with this ones (easier said than done - unfortunately). This is the part that i find worrying about "the new business model..." since it's quite predatory - when it comes to people with gambling addictions. Personally, i find it immoral. I presume you were referring to this new releases... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5nA4xayraI (at this rate Little Legends could triple by the end of the year - if not more). This is what TFT is all about. Why it became permanent in such a short time. And since TFT covers the space - where the temporary modes used to be (like URF or BN), i take it - this may also be the reason why they intend to recycle TT (to use that space for temporary modes). Anyway, this is a different subject - for a different topic.
> more recently with the Prestige skins - where the community was completely ignored and nothing was changed Didn't they used to have it where you can only get prestige points from buying chests? Now we can grind them out in events.
: Just to clear this up. Interlocutioner was the lead writer for Pantheon. I shadowed the process and learned tons from him! He asked me to speak on his behalf for his video, and hopefully I did an ok job. Please give him all the props!
Idk who to go to, but I think Lula should be capitalized in Pantheon’s story.
: Why are you buffing khazix?
: Old games and old runes were funnier and less problematic...
Riot isn’t as against snowballing as players are. A winning team should win harder, otherwise the losing team will turtle forever. Maybe they went too far, and I agree damage is high, but I don’t think riot is going to remove the new system.
CLG ear (NA)
: PSA: "Introvert" doesn't mean "Shy" or "Socially Awkward"
Armchair psychologists debating what a term means.
: What Arakadia said basically. I'm not saying she is lesbian, I actually didn't think about reading it that way, but then someone on the boards pointed out she could identify with her because Lux' story mirrors her own. And I can acknowledge that there are parallels. That's not a bad thing, let people have their own interpretation as long as it doesn't interfere with the canon...
I’m fine with her story being a metaphor, or people having head canon of her being gay. My worry is when people think it’s canon, when it hasn’t been confirmed. I think that poster didn’t just see Lux as a metaphor, but as an actual gay character, with a lover/crush to boot. Imagine how that person might feel when there’s shipping between Lux and Ezreal, or Sylas. Even Riot’s done that. Imagine being someone who argues that a character isn’t lgbt because it isn’t confirmed, with someone who is convinced that they are. That person is either called ignorant for not seeing the obvious, or a bigot who’s trying to erase representation. I wasn’t even aware that Taliyah was meant to be transgendered. If someone wants to see her that way, fine but what do you say to someone who believes that’s canon?
: She's not. Her designer, Daniel Z. Klein said that they had this as an idea, but dropped it. Her story can still be read this way, just like Lux can be read as a lesbian having to "hide her light".
I’m not sure if “reading a story as x” is a good idea. If they want a gay character, they’ll make one like Neeko, or the guys in Varus. Trans people is too sensitive to only imply.
: I'm amazed at how naive and dumb they made her. In the end she was ready to let her friend die to keep her ass safe.
People are mad she’s used by him and they’re mad she left him to die lol
: I thought so too, he presumably knows that magic can be inherited and he knows about Lux. Garen having magical power wouldn't be this surprising to him. Celestial power, however... Well, she's an advisor to the king now. That's cool, I guess, but I want to know more about her background. Maybe a story where she leads the Dauntless Vanguard. The picture I used is from [What once sailed free](https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/whatoncesailedfree) where she kinda did, but we see almost nothing from her. I agree that J3 needs to die, not much to say here. The idea with Lux standing up and confessing is that it's more about her, really. She betrayed Sylas in his eyes because she does not come with them, denying her powers. Of course there would be backlash, but people know that she is a good person. She helped with the illuminators, doing beneficial work. She's a **crownguard**, a name with power. Maybe it could prove that not all mages are bad and the Demacian Laws are wrong and hypocritical.
Sylas spent years using his powers to capture other mages, and his own comrades couldn’t accept him. These people already condemned her as a mage-lover. Being a mage could’ve started a riot.
Seal Bot (EUNE)
: Is no one going to talk about the fact Sivir received a MASSIVE nerf??
As one of five Sivir mains, I’m glad she’s mentioned.
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Eleshakai,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6vXArGnp,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-10T14:16:38.345+0000) > > Here's the reasoning: > > Yuumi is REALLY strong in pro but not so strong at lower ELOs. Since she meets their criteria for a nerf based off of her pro presence, she needs a nerf. But they don't want to hit her in ways that make low-skill Yuumis weaker. So they took a look at the difference between a really good Yuumi and a mediocre Yuumi... and yup! You guessed it. The main difference is that top tier Yuumis get full value out of their passive, while mediocre Yuumis don't. So.... by reducing the power of the passive, they can make top tier Yuumis a bit weaker without having a huge impact on the less skilled ones. That's actually a very logical explanation. i still hate it though. It is essentially a buff to low elo and nerf to pro, by this theory...
It is. That’s probably their intention.
Rioter Comments
usul1202 (NA)
: My growing number of mundo skins agrees. Why does he have so many skins??
: Riot please listen to the item RNG community criticism ....
Is it rng heavy in dota as well? I don’t think riot’s going to back off rng unless the entire internet blasts it. The boards are a fraction of the community.
: I think in her younger days. I mean she had romance with GP back then. Guess she was more slim.
: Streamers are a big reason of why community is toxic
I don't think there's that many kid-teens who watch Tarzaned. It's not like there aren't any college-aged men who pull stupid shit like inting.
GenoXx (NA)
: Random lore Question: Has Illaoi ever wore a dress?
jamyooes (NA)
: Can't hover over friends
: Why instead of pick only 2 roles cant I order the 5 based in my preferences?
I'm pretty sure it would result in people picking support last, which will mean longer queue times. Most people here don't mind that, but enough players or Riot care.
: is a shame the company has lost 700 mill in revenue.
: Riot, these lootboxes aren't making you look any better.
Riot keeps doing it because players keep buying them. You don’t have to be an addict to purchase loot boxes.
Pale Mask (EUW)
: A small observation
Are the other two leaders of the black rose? They felt like partners or loosely affiliated.
Seba7290 (EUNE)
: New bio for Zilean and stories for Qiyana and Malphite
I’m not even mad at Qiyana. Sure it’s wrong what she did, but she gave her sister a chance, and I’m more upset at how violent Piltovens are to the villagers. We got ourselves a political character that isn’t from Noxus, and I’m excited for it.
Zeanix (OCE)
: I would take Demacian Vice Cait over Arcade any day
Holy crap I want Vi to beat me to death with that skin.
: PBE Update: Demacia Vice Garen & Lucian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1moXJATS2Zs
Zoli Ben (EUNE)
: They were made for something else, but Riot decided to test the waters with this two and if its a hit it will be expanded. {{champion:122}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:254}} are in the line if I recall correctly. Papercraft failed badly as experiment but these are popular, broad champs so its gonna be okay IMO.
Sillae (NA)
: The last time serious progress was made in the "main" lore, I think was the Bilgewater event where Gangplank was temporarily killed off by MF and came back as a man who realized his mistakes (not in a moral sense but in how he underestimated his enemies) and everyone was pissed that they couldnt play GP for a week (including people who were never going to play him in the first place). Major developments might merit gameplay changes in Riot's eyes and Riot might not want to risk another backlash.
They made gp unplayable during an event where you needed him for some missions.
: > [{quoted}](name=GreenKnight,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=w7okAJ0i,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-20T14:24:22.400+0000) > > Why? She looks fine AF. She is dressed like a stripper, lol.
It’s Ionia a lot of them are strippers.
: got my friend permabannede - he blocked me on every media - did I do the right thing?
Take a minute and ask yourself why you think you did the wrong thing? Someone who is rude to others and yourself isn’t worth your time.
Rioter Comments
Morojax (NA)
: I never heard of this guy Nightblue3 before but hes saying the 'R' word like multiple times a sentence. How is he even allowed to stream?
> [{quoted}](name=Penelope is Sexy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AtEYhR3a,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-06-14T22:02:34.234+0000) > > I never heard of this guy Nightblue3 before but hes saying the 'R' word like multiple times a sentence. How is he even allowed to stream? I’m confused on what’s bannable on twitch. How many people have said bitch?
: > [{quoted}](name=Dr Endeavor,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AtEYhR3a,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-14T20:19:16.417+0000) > > I mean, Tyler1 got banned. Dunkey got banned. There are probably more... seems inconsistent though. And Tyler1 came back, and is still a big bag of toxicity. Why did they let him come back? Because he's a good source of revenue. People watch him to see him throw massive temper tantrums. Any form of attention, even negative attention, is good for a game that's trying to remain relevant.
> [{quoted}](name=Trolosaurus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AtEYhR3a,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-14T20:24:03.181+0000) > > And Tyler1 came back, and is still a big bag of toxicity. > Why did they let him come back? > Because he's a good source of revenue. People watch him to see him throw massive temper tantrums. > Any form of attention, even negative attention, is good for a game that's trying to remain relevant. He was the only player permanently banned, and he had to prove that he isn’t toxic. Doesn’t he keep his toxicity verbal or as jokes nowadays?
Gubaguy (NA)
: Glad to see kruphix findging work these days
There are god cards in magic? Since when?
: Qiyana Can Dab on Them Haters
: Yeah, except to my understanding, Riot has never just introduced a new region entirely before. Demacia, Targon, Freljord, Bandle, Shurima, Noxus, Ionia, Bilgewater, and Shadow Isles were all in existence from the start (even if their names weren't solidified), so they had much more capability to place champions where they needed them. This is a new frontier for Riot, and for the game, so while historically, new releases aren't tied to a region unless they come in pair, there is no history or precedence of Riot releasing a completely new region into the game before.
Isn’t the region technically the Kumungu area? Just a different name? I personally wouldn’t call it a new area.
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