: Nightblue3 got what he deserved
what happened to NB3? I know about the drama situation and think they're both monkeys especially Nubrac after watching the discord vod lol.
Hotarµ (NA)
: >How is it toxic that NB3 was rightfully upset about a griefer that Riot has known about and hadn't banned? Because whether or not we disagree with Nubrac's strategy and even though his teammates did it too, AFKing is unacceptable. Additionally, NB3s attitude in that match was poor and most players believe that as a popular content creator he should be held to a higher standard. Personal note, I do think that Nubrac's strategy should be considered griefing but that's clearly a large point of contention for the majority of players and as such it should be obvious that **there is no definitive answer** to this situation.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Bpkd4x3z,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-21T18:29:49.190+0000) > > Because whether or not we disagree with Nubrac's strategy and even though his teammates did it too, AFKing is unacceptable. Additionally, NB3s attitude in that match was poor and most players believe that as a popular content creator he should be held to a higher standard. > > Personal note, I do think that Nubrac's strategy should be considered griefing but that's clearly a large point of contention for the majority of players and as such it should be obvious that **there is no definitive answer** to this situation. AFK is unacceptable because it creates a negative play experience for the team. However, in NB3s situation, 2 already afk'd, the other already gave up on the game, so in this case, Nubrac's team agreed that the game was over because of Nubrac's indisputable griefing behavior. Now I do hate NB3 as well especially after his drama with qtpie when he was called out for being diamond so NB3 intentionally fed on stream when qtpie was on his team. NB3 can honestly be trash with his toxic behavior, but this afk situation was inevitable (meaning it was out of NB3's control, why you ask? because the game was out of his control when Nubrac decided to refuse to communicate pre-game AND during the game, created a negative play experience for his whole team (and evidently in numerous other games as presented by Nubrac from Riot), and hard-griefed.
Foe (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2bb28xra,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-06-21T18:09:02.750+0000) > > Did he try to win the game? Did he communicate with his team? This is not a silver game that you can say "Oh that's how he _thought_ he was doing his best to help his team" . This was a masters game, in which he didn't piss off 1 person, he pissed of his entire team, and showed no intent of wanting to play for the team. When you are a masters player, the standards for what "inting" and "griefing" are tons different than those in silver-gold-plat-low diamond, and that is how it should be. > > Also, why does he not play this "strat" when he is not in games with famous streamers? > > His leona is 56% winrate, his teemo is 48% winrate. And he has a bunch of 30% winrate champs with more than 40 games on each. > > That doesn't sound like "griefing picks" to you? If not, cool, we have different perspectives. I don't care about his win rates as they should not factor into how the "support" role should be played. As this discussion is not really about a single person but the idea of the "Support" role. The ranks should not be a factor in deciding who gets a "ban" and who does not. There were several players in the game that went "away from keyboard in the nexus fountain not playing the game". That should be a banned offence as not everyone agreed to "end the game" this is what the surrender vote is for and not to be confused with typing it in chat.
> [{quoted}](name=Foe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2bb28xra,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-21T19:07:46.131+0000) > > I don't care about his win rates as they should not factor into how the "support" role should be played. As this discussion is not really about a single person but the idea of the "Support" role. The ranks should not be a factor in deciding who gets a "ban" and who does not. There were several players in the game that went "away from keyboard in the nexus fountain not playing the game". That should be a banned offence as not everyone agreed to "end the game" this is what the surrender vote is for and not to be confused with typing it in chat. Actually, 3 out of 5 players (NB3 team) was afk and the other player also agreed the game was over, focusing the blame on Nubrac, so in fact, the afk situation was agreed upon the majority of the team against Nubrac, the one who griefed and caused the other 3 (which is majority) to afk and the last one to give up. NB3 even gives Nubrac (you included) the benefit of the doubt and says alright report me, this doesn't change the fact that it was Nubrac that caused this, and you are going to say how? and I am going to repeat what NB3 said 10 times. By creating a negative gaming experience for his whole team (yes, his whole team, look at the game yourself and tell me irelia was not tilted).
Foe (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Cosmochris,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2bb28xra,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2019-06-21T18:52:16.142+0000) > > And again, league is a team game, which Nubrac would agree with hypocritically. Then why didn't he communicate with his TEAM? His argument saying that it will tilt the team if he says anything is ignorant and again hypocritical because he's tilting his team by refusing to communicate when irelia mid begged him to leave. Literally my 6 year old self would understand this. I don't really care about your age. Facts are not just in a single game where decisions are made to ban a player. I'm speaking in general sense about how the "Support" role is not specified in their position location on the map. Therefore they may proceed to go bot lane,mid lane,top lane or even jungle and help clear camps. However I would agree that double jungle without communicating this should be ban worthy only for the simple fact that the experience is not shared. If Riot wants a specific meta than they should change the name of the role: "Support" to "Support Bot" as every other role has specific lane they must attend to, for example role "Bot" clearly needs to go bottom lane. Now if your "Bot" lane player told the support to "leave the lane support" at the start of the game is this okay? Should the "Support" role now proceed to go top? Oh, top lane wrote "leave my lane support" as soon as the "support" went "top". Oh, "mid" wrote to the "support" "leave mid lane" as soon as the "support went "mid". The "support" now goes to the "jungle" and farms with the jungler and the jungler writes "leave my jungle support". Hmm, okay by this logic the only place for the "support" to go is now away from keyboard or maybe the nexus fountain? I completely disagree with your statement. FamousNubrac is definitely not wrong in this situation, the change needs to be made in the LOL Client or TOS to specify exactly where the "Support" role should proceed to go.
> [{quoted}](name=Foe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2bb28xra,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2019-06-21T19:02:41.643+0000) > > I don't really care about your age. Facts are not just in a single game where decisions are made to ban a player. I'm speaking in general sense about how the "Support" role is not specified in their position location on the map. Therefore they may proceed to go bot lane,mid lane,top lane or even jungle and help clear camps. However I would agree that double jungle without communicating this should be ban worthy only for the simple fact that the experience is not shared. If Riot wants a specific meta than they should change the name of the role: "Support" to "Support Bot" as every other role has specific lane they must attend to, for example role "Bot" clearly needs to go bottom lane. Now if your "Bot" lane player told the support to "leave the lane support" at the start of the game is this okay? Should the "Support" role now proceed to go top? Oh, top lane wrote "leave my lane support" as soon as the "support" went "top". Oh, "mid" wrote to the "support" "leave mid lane" as soon as the "support went "mid". The "support" now goes to the "jungle" and farms with the jungler and the jungler writes "leave my jungle support". Hmm, okay by this logic the only place for the "support" to go is now away from keyboard or maybe the nexus fountain? I completely disagree with your statement. FamousNubrac is definitely not wrong in this situation, the change needs to be made in the LOL Client or TOS to specify exactly where the "Support" role should proceed to go. Thats a fair statement but in that case wouldn't it just mean you have a toxic team? You would have grounds on reporting your entire team because they are toxic, but in the Nubrac and NB3 situation, Nubracs team all didn't tell him to leave. Irelia mid was telling him to leave. Going to your statement on roles, I personally don't care for this argument because you can go vayne top corki mid yasuo bot; this argument has no point. My proof? Riot specifically stated bot champs are bot, but people play them other lanes. No one said mages shouldn't be support but you now see brand vegiar and velkoz to name a few dominating in the support role. No one said taliyah jg should be a thing. I understand what you say when support was never stated to be for bot only (even though in champ select, support is situated bot on the map by Riot, therefor negating your argument), but this goes back to NB3s argument bringing up alicopter. I watch his gameplay and I do feel like hes in other lanes more so than bot, but the thing is, he communicates very heavily to his team. Nubrac refused to do so. And going to your last argument if you were to afk in your case then its you that would be punished even though your team was toxic and this goes to what NB3 said about Riot doing a shit job at everything. I agree with that statement. I also believe Nubrac going teemo support/mid is not bannable. Support can stay in jg for the first 10 min of the game for all I care, but if he intentionally creates a negative play experience for the team, whether Riot stated where support should go or not even though this doesn't really matter at all in this entire situation, he still created a negative game experience, which I can not stress enough.
: This whole issue isnt about where support should be. Nubrac in that game (and in many other games since it was stated by Riot themselves) intentionally created a negative gaming experience for a lot of players and you can't ignore irelia begging nubrac to leave and stop what he was doing as well as the tilted bot. Why you ask even though you're just going to ignore that fact? It's exactly because that. You're ignoring facts. I'm not sure what you're aim is in this argument but both Nubrac and NB3 are in the wrong. The only difference is that NB3 admitted what he did was trash and Nubrac kept going in circles saying let me ask you this.
> [{quoted}](name=Cosmochris,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2bb28xra,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-06-21T18:48:54.554+0000) > > This whole issue isnt about where support should be. Nubrac in that game (and in many other games since it was stated by Riot themselves) intentionally created a negative gaming experience for a lot of players and you can't ignore irelia begging nubrac to leave and stop what he was doing as well as the tilted bot. Why you ask even though you're just going to ignore that fact? It's exactly because that. You're ignoring facts. I'm not sure what you're aim is in this argument but both Nubrac and NB3 are in the wrong. The only difference is that NB3 admitted what he did was trash and Nubrac kept going in circles saying let me ask you this. And again, league is a team game, which Nubrac would agree with hypocritically. Then why didn't he communicate with his TEAM? His argument saying that it will tilt the team if he says anything is ignorant and again hypocritical because he's tilting his team by refusing to communicate when irelia mid begged him to leave. Literally my 6 year old self would understand this.
Foe (NA)
: #unban FamousNubrac . Nightblue3 and FamousNubrac debate
This whole issue isnt about where support should be. Nubrac in that game (and in many other games since it was stated by Riot themselves) intentionally created a negative gaming experience for a lot of players and you can't ignore irelia begging nubrac to leave and stop what he was doing as well as the tilted bot. Why you ask even though you're just going to ignore that fact? It's exactly because that. You're ignoring facts. I'm not sure what you're aim is in this argument but both Nubrac and NB3 are in the wrong. The only difference is that NB3 admitted what he did was trash and Nubrac kept going in circles saying let me ask you this.
Kelg (NA)
: maybe he had approach velocity or celerity
> [{quoted}](name=Kelg,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=vQd1BiQI,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-18T03:54:47.539+0000) > > maybe he had approach velocity or celerity No i kept an eye on his movement speed it was consistently lower than mine
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: Yes, because Riot puts fresh level 30 accounts into silver MMR to complete their provisionals, and these level 30 accounts are either complete morons or actual challenger smurfs (Even high-elo players admit that this magnum diversity in silver makes it hard to consistently carry games) I consider it to be the ELO Casino, because you gamble 19 LP and 30 minutes of your life in the hopes that the morons fall onto the enemy team instead of your own
Lmao so true, I get matched with first time rank players fresh outta level 30 and get matched against diamond players. Im gold btw.
: No, it doesn't exist. Look up my match history.
> [{quoted}](name=EpicEzio,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zdf2TU53,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-06T06:17:43.678+0000) > > No, it doesn't exist. Look up my match history. don't get how looking at your match history proves anything lol
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: [GAMEPLAY] Pyke invisible
I don't think so cause igniting akali in her w doesn't reveal her, and neither does a pink ward which is pretty broken
saltran (EUW)
: Hey, it was cancer against mages and now is cancer against everyone.
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: trying to lose the game because somebody hurt your precious fee-fees? christ this community is pathetic.
No idea what you're talking about but yeah it really is!
: yes, it's griefing if it's the optimal play and you refuse because you dislike the player
I have no idea what you're talking about but sure LOL
: I disagree. If they don't play well and take unnecessary damage,Soraka shouldn't be obligated to waste his resources to fix Yasuo's mistakes. Yasuo may not like it, but Yasuo is responsible for his own well being. Soraka isn't a mandatory safety net for the careless. If some dude decides to 1v5 and gets capped for it, it's not the Soraka's fault. I wouldn't waste my abilities to save a dumbass if it's just a waste of mana/hp.
: Well if someone is intentionally feeding then I don't think so as its unlikely to make any difference, but not healing someone because you don't like something they said is pretty lame. Its not reportable though.
yeah true but for example i had an adc that would 1v5 and then would keep doing so, so I made it a habit not to heal him anymore :/
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: Is it just me or is Leagued buggy as hell?
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: I am not saying you are bad because you cant control other people, im saying that you are nowhere near a challenger player, so there is a lot of room to improve. Dont take all the negatives about you, just look at how you can become better and focus on your own plays. Also dont mind and dont care what other people are doing. If you have a blitzcrank mid, use that. Go to his lane, cc the opponent so he can hook and kill. Alistar top? Go top and use his cc to set up a kill. Dont focus on the bad things, focus on how you can utilize the champions to make things happen. Lastly, not all games are winnable, and if you think you did your best, then its fine. Go next game and move on. But think of it like this, if a pro player watched your replay and how you played, what advices or what comments do you think they will make?
Another thing, if a sion in your team, for some odd reason when no one said anything to him or when we weren't even losing by that much, decides to sell 2 of his tank items to buy a triforce, phantom dancer, what can i do so we don't have to lose cause of him? This game i'm talking about, we came back hard as the enemy was throwing and we were getting objectives, but we lost because the sion decided to troll build AND refuse to communicate and cooperate, proven when he sits top as the enemy is in our nexus despite us pinging him and telling him to come back. Literally my team did nothing to trigger him, but he was just triggered. I have a lot of other stories in which I can prove you wrong in any argument you tell me, whether you tell me I'm bad or not.
Leylania (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Cosmochris,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g6F3xvkG,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-03-20T09:55:14.970+0000) > > It's sadly getting old cause its still the hard truth :/ No it is not true. Look at the winrate of pro player smurfs, they have 90%+ winrate because they are way better than the elo their smurf account is in right now. Why aren't they hold back by their teams? If you can't climb you aren't good enough for it, simple as that.
Good point, but if I were to start a new account, I would have a high win rate as well, but I don't have the time and resource for that so I don't. Also I don't get how comparing pro players to silver elo would make sense.
: So I don't have a feeding adc.
: SUPPORT MAINS: why you started to play support and why you love it?
: I am not saying you are bad because you cant control other people, im saying that you are nowhere near a challenger player, so there is a lot of room to improve. Dont take all the negatives about you, just look at how you can become better and focus on your own plays. Also dont mind and dont care what other people are doing. If you have a blitzcrank mid, use that. Go to his lane, cc the opponent so he can hook and kill. Alistar top? Go top and use his cc to set up a kill. Dont focus on the bad things, focus on how you can utilize the champions to make things happen. Lastly, not all games are winnable, and if you think you did your best, then its fine. Go next game and move on. But think of it like this, if a pro player watched your replay and how you played, what advices or what comments do you think they will make?
Yeah there are a lot of things I can improve on but even challenger and LCS players face the same issue I do, except its in even more severity in the elo I'm in. It's not about what I can do, but what the team can do. League is a team oriented game and if 1 or more person isn't with the team, then the game falls apart. Also we did try to utilize their strengths, but you can only do so much as an alistar top and a blitz mid. You get denied cs and exp, if you get ganked once then you'd have to burn flash or die. I'm not trying to focus on the bad side, I really am. But what I'm looking for is an honest answer as to how I could effectively climb instead of "its you thats bad" or "you learn how to carry". You speak as if each and every champion has the ability to 1v9. If i'm a god-like player at, lets say, zed, I can probably 1v3 but I can't 1v9. I'm also looking for an answer as to how to teach these players how to listen and communicate when being calm and supportive isn't working because they are so tilted. I've seen plenty of pro players play the game and honestly, I've seen better in silver elo, but thats the thing, the game has become so unbalanced that "carrying" is progressively becoming more and more difficult.
: The honest answer is you stop crying about your teammates and start playing vs your opponents. The sooner you realise its not your teammates but yourself, the faster you will improve and actually get good at this game. You are bad (not flaming, but if you were to compare yourself to Messi or Ronaldo or Michael Jordan, still think you are good then?) and you have a lot of room to improve. Main one role and one champion (and maybe a secondary role/champion) and spam the hell out of them. Focus only on your own gameplay, dont mind your team. Stop dying, everytime you die, enemy team will farm and pull ahead. Play until your match history looks like this: https://prnt.sc/itovwu and you will be garanteed to climb.
Also just had a alistar top playing against a riven/kat (they swapped lanes cause alistar was losing hard) and I'm currently playing with a blitzcrank mid! Can you teach me what to do in this situation?
Leylania (EUW)
: How to climb? Be better than the elo you are currently in. The "my toxic feeding team mates are holding me back" excuse is starting to get old.
It's sadly getting old cause its still the hard truth :/
: The honest answer is you stop crying about your teammates and start playing vs your opponents. The sooner you realise its not your teammates but yourself, the faster you will improve and actually get good at this game. You are bad (not flaming, but if you were to compare yourself to Messi or Ronaldo or Michael Jordan, still think you are good then?) and you have a lot of room to improve. Main one role and one champion (and maybe a secondary role/champion) and spam the hell out of them. Focus only on your own gameplay, dont mind your team. Stop dying, everytime you die, enemy team will farm and pull ahead. Play until your match history looks like this: https://prnt.sc/itovwu and you will be garanteed to climb.
Lol well I'm trying that and still am! I always win lane and help other lanes, but I can't stop my team from 1v5ing, overextending, not grouping, not communicating, and such. If you're calling me bad cause I can't control the other people, then please do tell me how!
Hatol (EUW)
: Gank bot, roam bot, tp bot, peel for your adc, die for your adc
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taide (NA)
: I like oggling
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Cloud273 (NA)
: I just logged in. I think they're back up now.
> [{quoted}](name=Cloud273,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=eAJogFRs,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-19T21:05:18.347+0000) > > I just logged in. I think they're back up now. Yep they're back up right now!
: hey there... i had the same experience! but i know that servers arent down. check here! http://status.leagueoflegends.com/#na
Yeah server seems to be working now!
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: Are Servers down?
Managed to connect back into the game and apparently 4 of the enemy team was dc'ed and 3 of ours too, servers are definitely down despite the server status saying otherwise
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: {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
I can tell you right now its actually working. Cum my brudda ill show you da wae to challenga
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