: Blitzcrank single-handedly makes the support role fun to play.
Blitzcrank single-handedly makes every other role not fun to play. Mash Q till you hit somebody for free win. It's toxic.
: Lethality Meta.......Such Build Diversity..... Much Fun Gameplay...
When you have no front line, a fucking MF with** randuins** that isnt even using the OP as fuck lethality build, an int feeding nami, a Kled with berserk, and an eve that falls off lmfao that game was lost anyways
: Promos are really fun
http://imgur.com/a/FwaZB my match history, 2 games I got lagged out because of Cox
CppL (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=GetHauntedd,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l7Ws17Nh,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-02-13T13:31:34.094+0000) > > I feel your pain man, I've gotten demoted I think once or twice this season from afks. Oh boy I could be on gold by now :D I would rather play with a afk than a feeder on my team.If you snowball hard ,you can win a game 4v5 before 20min mark.When you hvae a feeder its playing 4v6...
> [{quoted}](name=CppL,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l7Ws17Nh,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-02-13T17:48:20.569+0000) > > I would rather play with a afk than a feeder on my team.If you snowball hard ,you can win a game 4v5 before 20min mark.When you hvae a feeder its playing 4v6... tru
: All feeders, inters and trollers always await me for me promos, that's why I don't even bother with ranked anymore. It gets old when you repeatedly reach a promotion just to get utterly fucked by "variance" every, single, fucking, time. And if it's not that you're supposed to carry a full row of low golds/silvers against a full row of low-mid plats with premades because yah, you know play "with" plats and against plats to enter plat. Uhuh, yeah right, again, working as intended. As far as I'm concerned, fuck "ranked".
> [{quoted}](name=SlaktarTasken,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l7Ws17Nh,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2017-02-13T19:54:12.716+0000) > > All feeders, inters and trollers always await me for me promos, that's why I don't even bother with ranked anymore. It gets old when you repeatedly reach a promotion just to get utterly fucked by "variance" every, single, fucking, time. > And if it's not that you're supposed to carry a full row of low golds/silvers against a full row of low-mid plats with premades because yah, you know play "with" plats and against plats to enter plat. > > Uhuh, yeah right, again, working as intended. > > As far as I'm concerned, fuck "ranked". I've been playing against diamonds+ with diamonds+ and for a long time until tournaments were discontinued, even when I was still gold. My main was D5 last season and got stuck with all the boosted kids and int feeders in a 5th division after being demoted from series to D3. Right now, in P5 on my 5th attempt at promos, I get to vs Diamonds with golds/plats to promote past low plat. It's retarded.
XmortoxX (NA)
: I know that feel man. I almost had to go through my series 3 times to get to S1 because even with a free win granted to me the game still decided it wanted to give me a varus who had literally never even played the champion before.
> [{quoted}](name=XmortoxX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l7Ws17Nh,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-02-13T11:43:38.623+0000) > > I know that feel man. > > I almost had to go through my series 3 times to get to S1 because even with a free win granted to me the game still decided it wanted to give me a varus who had literally never even played the champion before. i just first timed trist and built lethality/crit and got fed in plat rip
: Promos are really fun
o shit look at that another int feeder with "trump2020" in their name http://imgur.com/a/xIgTV cy@ fuucking l8er kid
Rioter Comments
: Don't think the assassin is doing a very good job of getting the drop on his opponents if they see him channeling his edge of night before he goes in. In that case, I think the mage deserves to be able to get away.
> [{quoted}](name=PresidentSkroob,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4EylYEnE,comment-id=000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-13T08:45:44.536+0000) > > Don't think the assassin is doing a very good job of getting the drop on his opponents if they see him channeling his edge of night before he goes in. In that case, I think the mage deserves to be able to get away. Being an assassin doesn't mean you have to be fucking unseen lmao. I can come up behind an enemy from their lane and they have no where to go.
Rewt (NA)
: Lethality is pretty cancer in low elo, but yea i think in the end it was a good change. Riot DEFINATELY need to play with the numbers more. One thing that kind of bother's me though is that lethality is for killing squishies not tanks.... i dont see why tanks are complaining. Lethality is a flat armor penetration value. you get 200 armor + the amount of lethality they have in armor and you take 70% reduced damage from them. simple.
> [{quoted}](name=rewt127,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wYrOEvfV,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-02-13T07:40:58.136+0000) > > Lethality is pretty cancer in low elo, but yea i think in the end it was a good change. Riot DEFINATELY need to play with the numbers more. > > One thing that kind of bother's me though is that lethality is for killing squishies not tanks.... i dont see why tanks are complaining. Lethality is a flat armor penetration value. you get 200 armor + the amount of lethality they have in armor and you take 70% reduced damage from them. simple. Lethality + % armor pen brings tanks down to 40-80 armor
: But what mages can reposition during that time that quickly without burning flash? The only one I can thing of off the top of my head is Ahri. Maybe Azir. I feel that in most cases the target that the assassin wants to kill would usually have to burn flash, or escape withb barely enough health if the assassin isn't ridiculously far behind.
> [{quoted}](name=PresidentSkroob,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4EylYEnE,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-13T07:07:36.372+0000) > > But what mages can reposition during that time that quickly without burning flash? The only one I can thing of off the top of my head is Ahri. Maybe Azir. I feel that in most cases the target that the assassin wants to kill would usually have to burn flash, or escape withb barely enough health if the assassin isn't ridiculously far behind. There's an indicator when it's channeling. Mage can either hit them, or run away in the time.
Rioter Comments
: Well that's kinda the point. The item is supposed to reward players who are sneaky and manage to get the drop on somebody else. Really I think the purpose of it is to help assassins kill mages. That's why it gives stats that assassins like as well as mr. It rewards assassins with the ability to block any panic ccs that a mage will likely throw at them when they engage, but only if they prepare for the fight beforehand. If they take damage from minions or dots, they weren't sneaky enough. Maybe 3 seconds is too short, so something like 4 or 5 would be better. But it really has no business being 10 seconds long.
> [{quoted}](name=PresidentSkroob,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4EylYEnE,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-02-13T05:51:49.692+0000) > > Well that's kinda the point. The item is supposed to reward players who are sneaky and manage to get the drop on somebody else. Really I think the purpose of it is to help assassins kill mages. That's why it gives stats that assassins like as well as mr. It rewards assassins with the ability to block any panic ccs that a mage will likely throw at them when they engage, but only if they prepare for the fight beforehand. If they take damage from minions or dots, they weren't sneaky enough. Maybe 3 seconds is too short, so something like 4 or 5 would be better. But it really has no business being 10 seconds long. 10 is a bit long I feel 5 is too short because the enemy can easily reposition in the time that you have to channel the item without taking damage or dealing damage. If you could use it while attacking then 5 would be perfect, however that's not the case.
: she only 3 shots champs with no defense and deals about as much as any adc if you aren't going to build defense or at least ward properly then you are going to die
> [{quoted}](name=ScissorsNstuff,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ObmjbxhK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-02-13T03:50:15.049+0000) > > she only 3 shots champs with no defense and deals about as much as any adc > > if you aren't going to build defense or at least ward properly then you are going to die I had 200 armor and 3000hp and still got 3 shotted by quinn's retarded as fuck blind and targeted knock back.
: The only change you need to make to Edge of Night
7 seconds you cannot attack or take damage (including minion dmg, deaths dance dmg, deathfire dmg) when you activate the item for 2.5 seconds or it goes in a 5 sec cd. 3 seconds is as long as the channel lmao.
Rioter Comments
: I have the opposite problem where I have a bunch of keys but not enough available chests to use them
> [{quoted}](name=420 grams,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7sQRvrUt,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-02-12T15:31:43.198+0000) > > I have the opposite problem where I have a bunch of keys but not enough available chests to use them l2p more champs
: kid, you build titanic hydra and IE on Garen with 100% loss in ranked. You aren't making anyone else but yourself lose
> [{quoted}](name=Level 18 Feeder,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NFMRrWwk,comment-id=0019000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-12T20:41:53.060+0000) > > kid, you build titanic hydra and IE on Garen with 100% loss in ranked. You aren't making anyone else but yourself lose Kid you're silver. You aren't making anyone else but yourself lose
: If the enemy recalled they'd be losing exp faster the more minions of yours you get to die, fastest way is to have tower blow them up. The opponent also gets zero exp when recalling or dead so that's a net gain for you If it takes you to get 160 CS to take first tower thats extremely late and you're still running the old farm farm farm game when a good player could have had tower FB so much earlier with many more kills
> [{quoted}](name=Level 18 Feeder,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NFMRrWwk,comment-id=00190000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-12T20:34:58.104+0000) > > If the enemy recalled they'd be losing exp faster the more minions of yours you get to die, fastest way is to have tower blow them up. The opponent also gets zero exp when recalling or dead so that's a net gain for you > > If it takes you to get 160 CS to take first tower thats extremely late and you're still running the old farm farm farm game when a good player could have had tower FB so much earlier with many more kills short sighted. I can make them lose 3x more waves by feezing
: If you're able to kill the other laner with 100% - **WHY ARE YOU NOT SHOVING TO TAKE TOWER** Farm farm farm farm does nothing for your team and waste for your jungler to even come when the entire point of the game is to take objectives. An assist is 150g, how did you just gain 100???? Enemy kill plus all the shared waves is just 1/4 a level?? You lost lane because your opponent got ganked???? WTF are you doing? How are you even comprehending that you're doing tower damage when you're freezing AT YOUR TOWER
> [{quoted}](name=Level 18 Feeder,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NFMRrWwk,comment-id=001900000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-12T20:20:36.379+0000) > > If you're able to kill the other laner with 100% - **WHY ARE YOU NOT SHOVING TO TAKE TOWER** > > Farm farm farm farm does nothing for your team and waste for your jungler to even come when the entire point of the game is to take objectives. An assist is 150g, how did you just gain 100???? Enemy kill plus all the shared waves is just 1/4 a level?? You lost lane because your opponent got ganked???? WTF are you doing? > My jungler takes away everything for me to gain. It'd be the same as if the enemy just recalled, except I lose all my cs. > How are you even comprehending that you're doing tower damage when you're freezing AT YOUR TOWER You have no idea how to control a wave lol. I just finished a game where the enemy jhin had 30cs to my 160 because I froze at my tower, killed him, then was able to take tower in one push.
: You dont lose that exp. You got some bonus exp from the kill and share the minion exp while the opponent gets ZERO from the waves he just lost IF you shove to tower. **If you didnt shove to tower and gets back to the same waves he will lose nothing**, hence you shove to tower
> [{quoted}](name=Level 18 Feeder,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NFMRrWwk,comment-id=0019000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-12T19:49:18.486+0000) > > You dont lose that exp. You got some bonus exp from the kill and share the minion exp while the opponent gets ZERO from the waves he just lost IF you shove to tower. **If you didnt shove to tower and gets back to the same waves he will lose nothing**, hence you shove to tower In total, I gain 100g in total, i can 1/4 a level as a result i lose lane control and 20cs. If I'm full hp when enemy laner dies and they have huge wave, I let that push and I hold it just outside my tower range and make him lose CS and keep mininions pushed to my tower. If I'm low I push to enemy tower and recall. However, if fucktard jungler comes and clears my stack of 20 minions that I've been saving to control lane, makes my lane push, I lose all my CS, get no tower damage, and fucks me over because he needed an extra 200g from my lane.
: what is ur lucian build?
> [{quoted}](name=militiamen82,realm=NA,application-id=K6EGEal2,discussion-id=4thXHlpW,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-02-12T19:35:27.709+0000) > > what is ur lucian build? http://imgur.com/a/u33zs
Storren (NA)
: > Well a passive as powerful as a second life from death must have major draw backs right? How the design of the revival thing isn't bad its in a decent spot. The rest of this post I agree when he loses that attack speed steroid he feels really weak. The W is all about management so using the W at optimal times is how Aatrox complexity kicks in. I just feel when he revives that he should lose a Red bar which is the blood well and keep a white bar which is attack speed and only falls out of combat. This alone might be just enough to give him strength to compete. Yeah that's the trick with Aatrox, He has little usage for his empowered offensive skill and it feels bad in my eyes. If the W instead of hurting you had a passive that stored damage you absorbed from opponents then after a threshold healed him or empowered his auto attacks based off the damage he absorbed then you could activate it to heal himself but lose the offensive stats might help with the champions lack of damage but fit his champions design. Lest I would think so
> [{quoted}](name=Storren,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=K39iN6E6,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-12T07:17:20.201+0000) > > Yeah that's the trick with Aatrox, He has little usage for his empowered offensive skill and it feels bad in my eyes. If the W instead of hurting you had a passive that stored damage you absorbed from opponents then after a threshold healed him or empowered his auto attacks based off the damage he absorbed then you could activate it to heal himself but lose the offensive stats might help with the champions lack of damage but fit his champions design. Lest I would think so I think instead of hurting you it should not damage you at all, and fill up passive bar with x% of damage dealt. That'd help allot. Maybe if he uses his damage-W on champions it gives him a short burst of movement speed? So he can stick to his targets and also give him a reason to use the damage over sustain against champs. His Ult perhaps could interrupt his passive-revive to revive early and, at the same time, get the cast time on his ult out before entering combat. Makes him less predictable when he's going to revive, and allows him to immediately get back into combat.
: 72% winrate mid looking for gold/plat duo
: Ill play mid. 72 percent win rate on lux
> [{quoted}](name=xPlay Makerx,realm=NA,application-id=K6EGEal2,discussion-id=4thXHlpW,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-02-12T19:29:15.717+0000) > > Ill play mid. 72 percent win rate on lux I sent FR (This Urgot)
: Malzahar presses E and you're ADC burns flash.
> [{quoted}](name=Silent Pace,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oU1q4mvF,comment-id=0006000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-12T19:23:26.006+0000) > > Malzahar presses E and you're ADC burns flash. My alistar will be up his dick
Rioter Comments
: Karthus
press R for kill ~~steals ~~secures at bottom lane
: Compared to every other mage support, Zyra is the most comfortable to play against. Malzahar is just straight cheese and Brand's base damage is still too high + all the zoning potential he has. Zyra is fine though and most of her problems could be solved with simple tweaks.
> [{quoted}](name=Silent Pace,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oU1q4mvF,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2017-02-12T09:31:13.021+0000) > > Compared to every other mage support, Zyra is the most comfortable to play against. Malzahar is just straight cheese and Brand's base damage is still too high + all the zoning potential he has. Zyra is fine though and most of her problems could be solved with simple tweaks. throw ability and then press w guaranteed plant under your feet dealing 300 dmg + 200 from ability if you're hit by it
: I love how most people complaining about Aatrox are the ones that have just bought him, played him and are displeased for spending 6300 ip on a champ that isn't instantly imba from the first game. Aatrox indeed has many issues and is in need of a rework but, can we please stop this pathetic nagging over him already? He is not THAT useless, especially in the jungle.
> [{quoted}](name=Darth Tyrannus,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=K39iN6E6,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-02-12T11:40:13.018+0000) > > I love how most people complaining about Aatrox are the ones that have just bought him, played him and are displeased for spending 6300 ip on a champ that isn't instantly imba from the first game. > > Aatrox indeed has many issues and is in need of a rework but, can we please stop this pathetic nagging over him already? He is not THAT useless, especially in the jungle. My main owns all champs all runes and all rune pages and has for years Aatrox is dogshit. The only thing he can do is split push. Only champ I've 1v1'd and killed the enemy is WW because I either die instantly or they run away.
: Boi, you get the assist monies, assist xp, and share the xp/monies from the minion wave. you also get either a tp or free whacks on the enemies tower. how is that not beneficial to you? like, damn, do you want the whole thing served to you?
> [{quoted}](name=Gibberwatt,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NFMRrWwk,comment-id=00190000,timestamp=2017-02-12T09:45:55.697+0000) > > Boi, you get the assist monies, assist xp, and share the xp/monies from the minion wave. you also get either a tp or free whacks on the enemies tower. how is that not beneficial to you? like, damn, do you want the whole thing served to you? I get 100g, lose my wave XP and gold, am forced to recall since I have nothing to clear and too low hp to go for tower. Wow really helpful. Atleast the greedy fucking jungler can get a nice 600g and then continue to afk farm the jungle.
: With 20% CDR, which isn't hard to get on Aatrox, your E has about a 6.5s CD. Since your passive depletes your Bloodwell, its often best to save your Ult until after you get downed.
> [{quoted}](name=TheHappyReaperz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=K39iN6E6,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-02-12T08:33:27.492+0000) > > With 20% CDR, which isn't hard to get on Aatrox, your E has about a 6.5s CD. Since your passive depletes your Bloodwell, its often best to save your Ult until after you get downed. by the time your passive is good and fucking ready to revive you and the 3 sec cast time of ult, you're already dead
Storren (NA)
: > Well a passive as powerful as a second life from death must have major draw backs right? How the design of the revival thing isn't bad its in a decent spot. The rest of this post I agree when he loses that attack speed steroid he feels really weak. The W is all about management so using the W at optimal times is how Aatrox complexity kicks in. I just feel when he revives that he should lose a Red bar which is the blood well and keep a white bar which is attack speed and only falls out of combat. This alone might be just enough to give him strength to compete. Yeah that's the trick with Aatrox, He has little usage for his empowered offensive skill and it feels bad in my eyes. If the W instead of hurting you had a passive that stored damage you absorbed from opponents then after a threshold healed him or empowered his auto attacks based off the damage he absorbed then you could activate it to heal himself but lose the offensive stats might help with the champions lack of damage but fit his champions design. Lest I would think so
> [{quoted}](name=Storren,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=K39iN6E6,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-12T07:17:20.201+0000) > > Yeah that's the trick with Aatrox, He has little usage for his empowered offensive skill and it feels bad in my eyes. If the W instead of hurting you had a passive that stored damage you absorbed from opponents then after a threshold healed him or empowered his auto attacks based off the damage he absorbed then you could activate it to heal himself but lose the offensive stats might help with the champions lack of damage but fit his champions design. Lest I would think so his entirety as a champion is destroyed by{item:3123}}
Storren (NA)
: Well a passive as powerful as a second life from death must have major draw backs right? How the design of the revival thing isn't bad its in a decent spot. The rest of this post I agree when he loses that attack speed steroid he feels really weak. The W is all about management so using the W at optimal times is how Aatrox complexity kicks in. I just feel when he revives that he should lose a Red bar which is the blood well and keep a white bar which is attack speed and only falls out of combat. This alone might be just enough to give him strength to compete.
> [{quoted}](name=Storren,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=K39iN6E6,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-02-12T07:05:20.199+0000) > > Well a passive as powerful as a second life from death must have major draw backs right? How the design of the revival thing isn't bad its in a decent spot. The rest of this post I agree when he loses that attack speed steroid he feels really weak. The W is all about management so using the W at optimal times is how Aatrox complexity kicks in. I just feel when he revives that he should lose a Red bar which is the blood well and keep a white bar which is attack speed and only falls out of combat. This alone might be just enough to give him strength to compete. His W is great in lane In teamfights it's fucking retarded and you have to keep the sustain up or you die more instantly than you already do
: Kindred is never fun to play against when she's meta. Especially with how brainless her ult is for how impactful it can be.
> [{quoted}](name=l Sion Bot l,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vkmm9rLX,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-02-11T22:15:32.057+0000) > > Kindred is never fun to play against when she's meta. Especially with how brainless her ult is for how impactful it can be. simcom shrekt u
woobeee (NA)
: [FANART] I'm gonna draw Katarina until I'm satisfied with the finished product: Attempt #1
Crett (NA)
: that's a bit much man. people don't post their stuff to hear things like this; you could just say you don't like the face, or say it's too angular or something
> [{quoted}](name=Crett,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=Er1IXEur,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-02-12T04:21:43.646+0000) > > that's a bit much man. people don't post their stuff to hear things like this; you could just say you don't like the face, or say it's too angular or something If you cant handle criticism don't go on the internet.
: Remember back in worlds when red side was screwed over in banning the OPs?
Leave all 3 open. Call their bluff. Red team gets first 2 picks while Blue can only get the very first. If 3 OPs are open, then Red can get 2 while blue can only get 1.
Rioter Comments
Bârd (NA)
: So, an item that gives offensive stats, defensive stats, and a spell shield ended up being broken.
who wounda thought putting {{item:3142}} and{{item:3102}} in the same item would be op
: Zyra no longer viable in mid lane
she's been busted as fuck and im sick of seeing her leave her in gutter for 6 months like the rest of the roster has been for years
Eedat (NA)
: PSA: The jungler helping push your lane after a successful gank is beneficial to you
When you come in for a gank, take the kill, then clear my entire wave, then leave without going for tower, is not fucking helpful I lose CS and XP as much as the enemy laner the only one gaining anything is the jungler who's gonna throw the game anyways
: They are trying to sell you time, but in order to do so they first have to waste your time, that's what selling Rune pages really is. Its a scummy way to do business no matter if its a free game or not, and you should not be defending them for screwing you over, or trying to get you to gamble (boxes and keys), or trying to get money out of you for a product you can't see (skins).
> [{quoted}](name=Valderis Vandala,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cUv2ixkR,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-11T22:46:48.117+0000) > > They are trying to sell you time, but in order to do so they first have to waste your time, that's what selling Rune pages really is. Its a scummy way to do business It's called a progression system
: Eve actually has one of the healthier assassinations in the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Chroma Spell,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OFWIVjNs,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-02-02T21:18:45.408+0000) > > Eve actually has one of the healthier assassinations in the game. that's why she's 3rd in line for rework kek
: Skins are not just 1's and 0's, skins represent a lot of time and effort on Riot's part to design and make, these things have actual value. Rune pages are the poorer equivalent of a text document, there is no design or cost in that and they have no value.
> [{quoted}](name=Valderis Vandala,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cUv2ixkR,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-11T15:04:02.300+0000) > > Skins are not just 1's and 0's, skins represent a lot of time and effort on Riot's part to design and make, these things have actual value. > > Rune pages are the poorer equivalent of a text document, there is no design or cost in that and they have no value. Rune pages are part of the **free **game called League of Legends they generate profit for the game called League of Legends because they can be bought with RP taking away profit if given for free
: ***
20 is better than 5 oo wow so smart
: Ive had very bad times trying to clear as Rammus with a full armor page. The reflection damage and the passive AD you gain from a full armor page still doesnt DPS the camps fast enough, so even though youre taking less damage per hit youre taking too many hits to make it worthwhile. A standard AD page on Rammus increases your early DPS enough so youre taking less damage from the camps overall while having a faster clear.
> [{quoted}](name=ChaoticPinecone,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cUv2ixkR,comment-id=00060000000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-11T10:18:22.211+0000) > > Ive had very bad times trying to clear as Rammus with a full armor page. The reflection damage and the passive AD you gain from a full armor page still doesnt DPS the camps fast enough, so even though youre taking less damage per hit youre taking too many hits to make it worthwhile. > > A standard AD page on Rammus increases your early DPS enough so youre taking less damage from the camps overall while having a faster clear. I like it for champs. I gank allot, I don't sit there afk farming jg on rammus.
: Do you win lane? Ive tried running things like 38 armor runes on tanks, and it just never works out. You get punished way too hard for not being able to trade when you go for CS. In some cases like Maokai, running AP makes you safer in lane. A standard AP page with 2x Dorans start allows you to E-Q the wave without ever interacting with your lane opponent until you can afford some defensive items. Running armor/mr/hp leaves you too vulnerable when CSing with your autos.
> [{quoted}](name=ChaoticPinecone,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cUv2ixkR,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2017-02-11T09:32:49.656+0000) > > Do you win lane? > > Ive tried running things like 38 armor runes on tanks, and it just never works out. You get punished way too hard for not being able to trade when you go for CS. In some cases like Maokai, running AP makes you safer in lane. A standard AP page with 2x Dorans start allows you to E-Q the wave without ever interacting with your lane opponent until you can afford some defensive items. Running armor/mr/hp leaves you too vulnerable when CSing with your autos. I never use them unless I'm playing some shit in the Jg like Rammus. I take AS runes and fervor on Dar and then rush IE PD and Frozen Mallet for freelo.
: What are you running on your tanks? When I lane with a tank, I take my standard AP or AD pages. Magic damage tanks need AP to clear waves (Maokai/Nautlius). AD tanks need the AD/AS to last hit under turret and to trade (Sion/Voli/Shen). Tanks like Malphite can go either/or, but he doesnt run a page of scaling armor runes just because he is a tank.
> [{quoted}](name=ChaoticPinecone,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cUv2ixkR,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-02-11T09:09:42.380+0000) > > What are you running on your tanks? > > When I lane with a tank, I take my standard AP or AD pages. Magic damage tanks need AP to clear waves (Maokai/Nautlius). AD tanks need the AD/AS to last hit under turret and to trade (Sion/Voli/Shen). Tanks like Malphite can go either/or, but he doesnt run a page of scaling armor runes just because he is a tank. armor/MR scaling HP im still figuring it out cuz i havent played tanks in a while
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