: > [{quoted}](name=Leonerdo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5X0Lel8G,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-09-08T20:16:10.005+0000) > > That's fair. But I'd like people to be mad AND informed. It's one thing to say "WTF Shen doesn't need a nerf. Rito get your head out of your ass" and a totally different thing to say "Come on Rito, I know Shen is kinda strong in Pro play, but for the rest of us you are destroying a fun champion. I'd rather you didn't make that trade-off." Same difference tbh. Doesn't matter which way it is, the changes totally ignore the consumer base in exchange for a limited group of people. I sincerely can't wait to see E-sports explode in Riot's face. I'm gonna laugh my ass of then.
> [{quoted}](name=DracoMTA,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5X0Lel8G,comment-id=000000000003,timestamp=2016-09-09T12:51:28.643+0000) > > Same difference tbh. Doesn't matter which way it is, the changes totally ignore the consumer base in exchange for a limited group of people. I sincerely can't wait to see E-sports explode in Riot's face. I'm gonna laugh my ass of then. It will never explode actually. Tbh, if rito took a few more risks instead of hogging all the fkin money to themselves, it's be so much more popular. Also, the funny thing is all bases combined, there are at least a million people worldwide that watch LoL esports. That's more of a fraction of the playerbase than the "boards" analysts. Also, if you have competence in the game and can use shen properly, he is very strong. "Boards" analysts are usually silver/bronze, so i highly doubt as a silver scrub myself that anyone can play any champ to a level where they can use then fully. Also, most changes aren't about casual or competetive. Most changes are usually done considering the champ at its highest potential, which is pro play. It's usually cause a majority of rioters aren't the best players themselves.
: For Those of You Who Say "League is so unbalanced, Ima go play Overwatch"
Tru, LoL is toxic, but if people say the most overloaded game with a hero that has a 12 sec cd ekko ult, an aimbot ult, a walking turret, aoe heals, and tanks that outdamage off heroes and can one shot them is balanced, then you have a screw in your head
Leonerdo (NA)
: Patch 6.18 isn't for you. It's for the pros.
The funniest thing is that boards is the one of the smallest forums for LoL players that doesn't even contain most of the playerbase. Got to r league and it just proves how removing the lcs will cause at least tens of thousands to leave cause many stick around for the pros. Also, one thing people need to note is it's not just pro play. The reason Shen is nerfed is cause he is too strong if one is competent with him, which I doubt is possible in silver/bronze, where the majority of boards players reside.
: The context for the Shen nerfs does NOT make sense.
Shen is too strong tbh. A good shen that isn't trash knows how to win trades ezily. Also, you can outduel most champs, even yas, til lv 6. Not only that, he has uncontested global presence most of the time allowing him to turn a 4 v 4 into a 5 v 4. In your regular solo queue game, shen ain't much but if ur in a team, he is a monster. They want to make him not be able to get ahead in lane anymore because that gives him too much strength.
G81 (NA)
: How the seeds in world are decided
J Team would just screw up tbh. The good part is we can laugh at EU more as all three teams wont make quarters.
tmoney95 (NA)
: Who do you think will win worlds?
Tbh, the top tier teams as said by many analysts and teams are probably ROX FW EDG TSM SKT RNG. They probably have the highest chance to win worlds. Also, tbh SKT is not a fav because of their jg and I am not a NA fanboy cause TSM has been acknowledged by many teams and Bjergsen is most likely the second best mid in the world.
: Can you carry as Support?
Yes, you can carry. Blitz is a stupid champ that falls off and is only useful early game. Play champs like Tahm Kench, Taric, Braum, Bard, or Thresh. No matter how bad your adc is, you can set em up and save em
Dangiuz (EUW)
: New Rumble skin?
Ya ofc they'll pick you to help with a skin over the 100s of people in game design.
Jo0o (NA)
: Who is a good Top champ to first-pick?
: > [{quoted}](name=YouCanMilkThose,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UpE9cpcK,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2016-08-18T11:49:19.819+0000) > > Besides the cc ult, it's pretty much the other way around. Especially with support budget, cause it cripples Ori's damage. Actually, taking out mana costs, Orianna's utility is way superior overall. * Poke damage -> Karma's Q is blocked by minions. Orianna's is not. Plus, the ball zones and can scout. * Reliable burst damage -> Orianna, due to wombo combo or even a simple QW. * Shield -> Orianna has higher values than Karma (excluding Mantra). Plus, have resistances attached. * Slow -> Orianna's is higher. Only thing going for Karma is a higher MS boost (or team-based shield with Mantra) and a close-range root, which could be easily punished. The only issue with Orianna is that she is way harder to play than Karma.
> [{quoted}](name=ZapMyHeart,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UpE9cpcK,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2016-08-18T15:53:00.894+0000) > > Actually, taking out mana costs, Orianna's utility is way superior overall. > > * Poke damage -> Karma's Q is blocked by minions. Orianna's is not. Plus, the ball zones and can scout. > * Burst damage -> Orianna, due to wombo combo or even a simple QW. > * Shield -> Orianna has higher values than Karma (excluding Mantra). Plus, have resistances attached. > > Only thing going for Karma is a higher MS boost (or team-based shield with Mantra) and a close-range root, which could be easily punished. > > Use Spellthief. She can get the bonus gold easily. Actually, it's the opposite. Karma is much better as a sup and even a mid laner. Just look at all the pro leagues one or two patches ago, she was the top priority pick. Only reason she was dropped was due to the 6.15 patch and carry top. Karma has much more reliable and constant damage due to low mana costs. She has much more constant cc that punishes the enemy adc beacuse itsa 2 v 2 lane. Her speed up is more important than a shield because a shield won't do crap against a three man dive. Also, Karma does much more dmg without dmg items. And bout zoning, karma can literally burst u down if u get close and her q is dangerous. Ori falls off way too ezily late game and she's ez to burst down. Overall, Karma has better lane pressure especially since she destroys all tank sups in lane. Ori's ball is way too predicable once you get used to it. She's literally a weaker version of azir
Rioter Comments
: As the 7th best yasuo in North America, I must say that Yasuo is in terrible need of a buff
I remember you. You made a previous post about this and were found out to be somewhere in the 90s or 190s. Then, you said you were the self-proclained 7th best yasuo.
: Score 6 v 27, 5v4, Tryndamere sez : I would rather lose than Surrender!
Just like how you only give a shit about yourself, he does too and so you deal with it. You try to make it seem as if he made some huge mistake. There is a NO option for a reason. I, for one, agree with the tryndamere. He at least didn't give up and quit saying hostage. Quit if you want. No one ever forced you to stay. God, some people are so self-righteous. Also, if they were able to one shot you, then why would you walk into them. There's things such as warding in this game for a reason. Besides, you act like they made the mistakes only, but you and cait fed a lot as well. The try was the only good player on your team so don't blame him. Besides, it's ranked and you are meant to try hard on it, not just give up. Also, it isn't grieving to not give up. I don't know who told you grieving was trying.
: The Direction League Has Went Makes Me Sad...
First of all, the changes you mention are not for this "snowball" meta you are talking about. It exists to stop lane swaps from occuring frequently in the lcs. Secondly, it doesn't change much in lower elos, so no, it doesn't let you snowball that hard as you might think.
: Who do you hate just based off their main?
It's funny how the boards encourage people to be stereotypical. It's funnier that people complain about Sona when she's so fkin early weak and much weaker than before the hotfix. Who gives a shit if someone plays fizz or yi? They probably like the champ, so they do. Heck, some champs have a low skill floor, but nearly every champ can be played to a high skill cap. Even teemo can become a god with amazing shroom placement and assassinations. Besides, hating people based on their main is stupidly biased. Would you hate your best friend just cause he was a Sona main, OP?
: How to fix current Yasuo (6000+ Yasuo games Diamond 2)
Yea, it's funny how people claim that he's given no evidence when it's clear they didn't even bother to go through the whole thread. Condescending idiots like them act like they know everything and literally act like idiots. I swear to god I've seen five posts sayin no evidence when he posted evidence right before them. And look at this Slamurai Jack, saying that smurfing makes you a bad person. Why don't ya tell that to every single pro player there is? It's sad how people have to act like they are the smartest there is when there are people much more knowledgeable than them?
: PSA: Thank You, Supports
Ironically, adc is the most toxic role in the game full of entitled snobs who think they're so good, but in the end, somehow screw up and usually feed even when the support is very good.
: My adc when i carry them as Shen Support
It's actually super ez to do it when you land a 2 man or 3 man taunt and even kill the enemies yourself. The funny thing is Shen can outright duel an adc melee and kill them.
: Can you rework fizz already??
Like the ones before me said, it's truly not hard to beat a fizz, especially in a teamfight. He really can't escape with just his e. Also, as a melee mid laner, he'd be trash without that escape in this world where every single mage has super hard cc. People rage ar assassins even tho they are meant to counter ez hard cc mages.
: Teemo's W feels VERY weak.
Ya, u have to use it ahead. Truth be told, the only way you can escape a gank when pushed in is to use flash + w. However, he's meant to be a lane bully, but has no good escape. I think it should be changed.
Sandixcx (NA)
: how long is a season
Year long pretty much
: If you dont ban irelia
Wow, so childish. You act like she's so broken and ez to play. It's not even too difficult to beat her if you play smart.
: Possible solution to Azir and Rylai's is to make his soldiers autoattacks instead of spells
Azir takes skill to do well with. Also doing that would basically take away the control mage part of him and allow him to abuse assassin items like lich bane. He'd basically do 10x more damage than he does now.
WrÆth (NA)
: Suggest a top lamer for low elo
: Which is better Tanky Top Ekko or Ap Mid Ekko or Bruiser Jungle Ekko?
Truth be told, it depends. Right now, Ekko is not even that strong. His ap mid build does dmg, but if you try to stun, it will be hard and you won't get much use out of the ult. Tankko does too less damage right now and bruiser is just meh imo. If you're good mechanically, I'd say ap mid with one r two tanky items.
: My experience playing support
The support does not get the credit they deserve at times is something I admit is true. And even other roles can do what they do. But personally, support aren't limited by gold is what makes them better. The thing is, supports are extremely useful, especially if you're losing. I mean, you can turn games around as a support. In games where your team is extremely behind, you can cc chain the enemies to death. In games where teamfights are super close, be Soraka and heal your team so much that they can't die. In games where there's too much damage being dealt and your team is losin every fight, be Bard and just set up your team for victory.
: If riot refunded me everything Id probably just uninstall
So you have the right to get your money back after you probably used the skins or whatever you bought over and over again. First of all, you were not forced to buy anything. Second, that's like saying when you got tired of your new phone that you bought, you should be able to refund it after extensive use. Third, this is a world of consumerism. You chose to buy it, so live with it.
: So Riot is totally full of shit
Why da fuk didja respond to a year old thread?
: Lost toplane due to minion block
: With almost every LCS game having switched lanes
They usually get solo gold from the turrets. Also, it's a commonly practiced thing, but lane swaps somewhat represent teamwork. You can clearly see it by comparing the lane swap of a team like TSM to a team like FOX.
: Yasuo's airborne debuff lasts way too long
Azir hardcounters Yasuo imo. With your sand soldiers, you can bully him hard in lane since he can only block arise. Tru, thanks to his bs mobility, he catches up in cs, but the game will be hell for him as he gets poked by the sand soldiers and Azir can run away ezily or you can bait him to chase you and pop ult. This'll knock him behind turret and he's dead. The only thing you have to worry bout is avoiding the q.
VazEzren (NA)
: I had a first time {{champion:50}} on my team in 3s once. He took Thunderlords then he rushed {{item:3065}} {{item:3158}} and then went for {{item:3165}} . He was laning against {{champion:157}} and got destroyed. Swain is like one of the hardest counters to Yasuo. Seeing his build and watching him get rekt by a Yasuo made me cry. The enemy only had 1 Ap champion too. None of them even really had any forms of lifesteal. Towards the end of the game when we were getting destroyed he complained that Swain is a lame champion and does no damage...This was after his rework and before he got nerfed too. I don't even know why {{item:3158}} are now the recommended boots for Swain. {{item:3020}} are significantly better, Swain's cooldowns aren't really that high to begin with, plus he's a DoT mage/sustain tank. {{item:3027}} is also no longer in his recommendations so I see Swains who never build it. Rito item recommendations op. -Vaz-
> [{quoted}](name=VazEzren,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=E9dyycj4,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2016-07-18T02:41:18.665+0000) > > I had a first time {{champion:50}} on my team in 3s once. He took Thunderlords then he rushed {{item:3065}} {{item:3158}} and then went for {{item:3165}} . He was laning against {{champion:157}} and got destroyed. Swain is like one of the hardest counters to Yasuo. Seeing his build and watching him get rekt by a Yasuo made me cry. The enemy only had 1 Ap champion too. None of them even really had any forms of lifesteal. Towards the end of the game when we were getting destroyed he complained that Swain is a lame champion and does no damage...This was after his rework and before he got nerfed too. > > I don't even know why {{item:3158}} are now the recommended boots for Swain. {{item:3020}} are significantly better, Swain's cooldowns aren't really that high to begin with, plus he's a DoT mage/sustain tank. {{item:3027}} is also no longer in his recommendations so I see Swains who never build it. > > Rito item recommendations op. > -Vaz- ROA and Spirit Visage are still core for Swain. He needs the sustain from ROA and the mr is just the bonus from Spirit Visage. He needs the 25% increased healing. His recent nerf was an ult cd nerf so the items stayed the same. Also, you can only beat Yas if you poke him out firsr. A first timer wouldn't and would try to fight him.
: I'm Quitting League Of Legends
How? From what I can see, there's no reason to post this. You are basically an attention hog, wanting someone to say "Oh no, this man is leaving". All you're doing is depressing people who want to try and get better in this game. Imo, you're the example of a bad community being depressing and saying this shit is so impossible. God, too many whiners like you. Tbh, no one cares bout ur life on boards and no one wants to hear your depressing LoL history. If you truly have a life like you say, then get to it cause you're a depressing player if I've ever seen one.
Snôopy (NA)
: Thresh Skin Concept: PROJECT: Thresh
Never gonna happen. They just gave him Dark Star Thresh. In your dreams tbh.
: Broken Hit boxes???
Well, if you want to see broken hitboxes, then "Ryuu ga waga teki wo kurau!"
: Rework Azir Already
Azir doesn't need a rework. His kit works very well and they balanced him at least better than before. He's lost two major things: turret-taking speed and ult zoning. He even is made to be a late game champ completely now. The reason for the low winrate is that no one knows how to play him. They play super safe or super aggressive. The other reason is cause of his lack of roaming potential. Many assassins are picked commonly in mid lane, so they have a easier time getting kills if the azir doesn't keep track of them 24/7. Once you figure out his play style, azir can be really good. Personally, he is quite balanced right now. He's really a good teamfight and I personally like where he is. As you get better with him, you can win games ezily.
Msatie (NA)
: recruiting females (any rank) to join my team
Lmao. Ya, good luck. Smartest guy in the boards here.
: are we still pretending jhin is balanced?
He's a good teamfighting adc, but he totally sucks at waveclear and dueling. His design, at the least, is pretty balanced.
: What Kind Of "Dere" Is Leona?
: Aurelion Sol NEEDED mini-rework at his passive.
He is a healthy champ with some counterplay that is very clear. His laning phase is usually quite dominating if you're skilled. However, in teamfights, you're a monster if you're good with him. To get him, you have to dive the enemy team, which is suicide, but you can't let him live due to his damage. His passive makes the entirety of his kit and as a whole, Sol is quite balanced.
: Teams that should be making WORLDS this year 2016
I say C9 rather than TL cause they just been a bit sloppy lately. Also, CLG could actually make it due to their victory in Spring if IMT don't take 2nd. Also, I say SSG rather than ROX.
Flaherty (NA)
: Or he's not super strong
> [{quoted}](name=O Flayherty ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9W9lc1Nb,comment-id=000200000001,timestamp=2016-07-13T17:21:32.473+0000) > > Or he's not super strong The thing is, he kinda is. Think of him like a sivir in teamfights that takes a bit more skill, but does so much chain dmg. You can basically treat the enemy team, if they're grouped together, as a wave of minions.
: No it does not show the destination, besides it's difficult to focus on ryzes ult if he casts it randomly under your feet during a 5 v 5 teamfight, where your focus is on enemies and on the fight.
> [{quoted}](name=MattMetal88,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vf5ZblO0,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2016-07-13T17:27:06.793+0000) > > No it does not show the destination, besides it's difficult to focus on ryzes ult if he casts it randomly under your feet during a 5 v 5 teamfight, where your focus is on enemies and on the fight. It does show it. There should be another circle on the map w a beam of light in the center.
: i'm i a hero for ryze?
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: should new ryze ulti have an on my way ping?
: PROJECT: Ekko is too similar to his base skin.
: Ryze's R used to troll and tp teammembers in enemy fountain
It's ez to troll, but the best way is to get over it. The new ult is meant to help in teamfights and if u dont trust the guy, idk.
: @Riot Ryze reworked but none of his skins re-released?
Personally, I actually rather like regular ryze. He looks much cooler than a lot of the skins anyway. The best ryze skins imo: Ryze Whitebeard and Young Ryze
: > [{quoted}](name=O Flayherty ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9W9lc1Nb,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-07-13T17:03:08.088+0000) > > I've seen the exact opposite, his damage is pretty lacking unless the enemy just stands still and lets you hit your combo 4 times in a row, and his ult seems pretty shitty until level 11 when you get the second upgrade. You can use that ult really stupidly and only goes like 6 feet away level 1. You must have watched a boosted animal play him
> [{quoted}](name=Roit Gums,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9W9lc1Nb,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-07-13T17:17:09.459+0000) > > You must have watched a boosted animal play him Nah, not everyone can do the combo right, so he was prob new like everyone was.
: Why say every game was "ez"?
Trash talk, but I feel ya. It's just people trying to show that they're bosses even when they're carried by their team.
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