1 Wing (NA)
: I think there is something wrong with matchmaking
It's especially evident in promo-games, where players have really good games up until promos then all of a sudden they get really toxic/shitty players who would rather flame and give up than actually play the game... Every. Single. Promos. I've brought it up before and see people mention it here and there.
Yokkers (NA)
: I used to play league to relax a bit... now its more frustrating then anything else in my life....
Yuuuup. Dodge 200 Morg Q's but then one lands and you're just dead. Morg Q followed with a Cait trap should be a good poke, but instead, it's pretty much a guaranteed kill.
: > [{quoted}](name=CrypticShantie,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TA8kJGTG,comment-id=00000000000300000000,timestamp=2018-12-14T01:02:34.531+0000) > > And where exactly do you go to practice a champion? You're trolling if you say bots. You go to norms to play a casual stress-free game. To learn a champion or role. But what's fun or "casual" about some high ELO dude bringing in his high mastery champion in a lane/role he's played hundreds of times in a competitive setting against some low ELO dude just trying to learn? You go to norms for that as well. And just queue again and try again if you get matched against a super unfair matchup. Norms is simply the grab bag of not having any idea of how the game is going to go. Why does it matter if you win or lose if you're trying to learn? It doesn't. You CAN learn from any game, if you actually try to, regardless of how much you get stomped or not. To me you sound like someone just complaining over something meaningless as your personal ego after having been stomped in a queue mode that isn't meant to necessarily have balanced teams. Like, what alternative would you suggest for people with vastly different elos who want to play together? What about the challenger player whose friend is just starting league, and they want to just hop in voice, talk about how to play the game, and play casually without too much stress? You cannot look at it from ONLY your perspective. That's beyond selfish. Everyone is allowed to be casual in their own way, and that means sometimes you get rough matchups. Better luck getting a match that suits you more next time, is all I can suggest. What about me, a gold elo scrub, and my best friend of like 10 years, who, is a top tier challenger support main that can slap down ANY gold elo player, and probably any plat player, with any champ in any lane without effort? Who is good enough that he could go pro? Who has been offered spots on teams? Are we just never allowed to play together ever? Because he will always hardstomp even if he's on an offrole? Sorry, but I don't think anyone who has friends with vastly different elos is going to ever agree to the way you envision normals. And before you suggest he should troll or not play to his fullest; that's still a very high diamond level for him, at the minimum. Some things about the game are just hardcoded into high elo players that is very difficult, if not impossible, to turn off. Anyone who has been very good at any game will tell you that this kind of thing happens; like a reflex. And guess what? Sometimes, when I play with my friend, I end up against people far higher than myself and get stomped as a result. Sometimes, I end up against people around my level and they get stomped easily. It actually averages out in the long run. You sure are taking the results of a "casual" game mode far more seriously than I would. Because I don't care if I get stomped or am stomping in Normals. It doesn't matter; I'll just move on to the next game. Caring about the results of the game is better left for, you know, ranked.
I would also like to point out that I'm not arguing that players shouldn't be allowed to que into a normals if they are high ranked, but simply that it may be anti-fun for the person who has to go up against that. Also by "pointless to play" I don't mean because I am losing, but that it's pointless to play a game that I would argue isn't very fun as a result of said high elo player.
: > [{quoted}](name=CrypticShantie,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TA8kJGTG,comment-id=00000000000300000000,timestamp=2018-12-14T01:02:34.531+0000) > > And where exactly do you go to practice a champion? You're trolling if you say bots. You go to norms to play a casual stress-free game. To learn a champion or role. But what's fun or "casual" about some high ELO dude bringing in his high mastery champion in a lane/role he's played hundreds of times in a competitive setting against some low ELO dude just trying to learn? You go to norms for that as well. And just queue again and try again if you get matched against a super unfair matchup. Norms is simply the grab bag of not having any idea of how the game is going to go. Why does it matter if you win or lose if you're trying to learn? It doesn't. You CAN learn from any game, if you actually try to, regardless of how much you get stomped or not. To me you sound like someone just complaining over something meaningless as your personal ego after having been stomped in a queue mode that isn't meant to necessarily have balanced teams. Like, what alternative would you suggest for people with vastly different elos who want to play together? What about the challenger player whose friend is just starting league, and they want to just hop in voice, talk about how to play the game, and play casually without too much stress? You cannot look at it from ONLY your perspective. That's beyond selfish. Everyone is allowed to be casual in their own way, and that means sometimes you get rough matchups. Better luck getting a match that suits you more next time, is all I can suggest. What about me, a gold elo scrub, and my best friend of like 10 years, who, is a top tier challenger support main that can slap down ANY gold elo player, and probably any plat player, with any champ in any lane without effort? Who is good enough that he could go pro? Who has been offered spots on teams? Are we just never allowed to play together ever? Because he will always hardstomp even if he's on an offrole? Sorry, but I don't think anyone who has friends with vastly different elos is going to ever agree to the way you envision normals. And before you suggest he should troll or not play to his fullest; that's still a very high diamond level for him, at the minimum. Some things about the game are just hardcoded into high elo players that is very difficult, if not impossible, to turn off. Anyone who has been very good at any game will tell you that this kind of thing happens; like a reflex. And guess what? Sometimes, when I play with my friend, I end up against people far higher than myself and get stomped as a result. Sometimes, I end up against people around my level and they get stomped easily. It actually averages out in the long run. You sure are taking the results of a "casual" game mode far more seriously than I would. Because I don't care if I get stomped or am stomping in Normals. It doesn't matter; I'll just move on to the next game. Caring about the results of the game is better left for, you know, ranked.
Although I understand your points, I'm afraid we will have to agree to disagree. It's not even so much about "taking it seriously" as it is just genuinely frustrating and _boring_ to get stomped by players far superior in skill. This isn't even one or two games, but usually, multiple games in a row which just becomes pointless to play. It's like playing chess. Would you rather play against the guy who is also a casual player? Or some competitive player who knows how to beat you in 2 moves? Maybe _I'm_ the weird one, and just don't like being stomped for fun.
: > [{quoted}](name=CrypticShantie,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TA8kJGTG,comment-id=000000000003,timestamp=2018-12-13T03:41:45.668+0000) > > Yup, made a post about this before too and everyone was like "Get better" or "its norms who cares" Because it's true. Go play ranked if you want balanced teams. That's the point of a ranking system. Hello?
And where exactly do you go to practice a champion? You're trolling if you say bots. You go to norms to play a casual stress-free game. To learn a champion or role. But what's fun or "casual" about some high ELO dude bringing in his high mastery champion in a lane/role he's played hundreds of times in a competitive setting against some low ELO dude just trying to learn?
: I know this is such an unpopular opinion but im tired of high elo players in normal low elo games
Bought and played Cass in a norms to try to learn her. Got matched against a M7 Plat Zed player. The dude 100-0 me the SECOND that last minion leveled him to level 3. Dude proceeded to just roam and pick up kills in every lane and just one shot for 20 minutes straight until the game ended. After the game was done he found his local preschool and proceeded to kick the kids around.
: because ive gotten mass downvoted and told that its a learning experience :^)
Yup, made a post about this before too and everyone was like "Get better" or "its norms who cares"
: "stop talking, you're 0/5"
lol or when people lose their lane, feed, and talk shit to you because you died to their fed laner. "You're no better, you're 0/5 too!" YA BECAUSE UR LANE IS SNOWBALLING LOL.
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Kaioko (NA)
: If your frustration is the wind wall then you either play a champion that isn't affected by it or you ban the wind wall. Better yet learn how to play against it it's very much so possible and I typically do so on my Lux. Several champions are meant to counter others and that's perfectly fine. You can play a whole laning phase focusing on just farm and the occasional jungler given opportunity. I hate rank shaming but the whole "I must kill my enemy laner" is a very stereotypical low ELO mentality.
Yeah, I mean even when I'm not laning against him he's just rolling around doin' whatever he wants lol. I just played a game where I went 24/6/10 with MF and Yas was still just rollin' up and one shotting me while healing himself lol. I need like my whole team to collectively peel, stun and hold him still in order for him to actually die or else he'll roll in one shot like 3 people and roll out with more health than when he entered the fight. " I hate rank shaming but the whole "I must kill my enemy laner" is a very stereotypical low ELO mentality. " That's also a good point.
: I mean. You could be a guy who was Bronze 3 seasons in a row like me and **still** have no problem against him.
Do Bronze Yas players know how to play and breathe at the same time?
: Anybody who really complains about Yasuo doesn't understand how to beat him and therefore whines about it instead of learning how to play against him. He is one of the better balanced champions in the game, you actually just need to get better if you're having trouble against him.
Oh, my bad. How do you play against a Yas then?
Alzon (NA)
: Ikr, Yasuo is just a bigger minion. Poor guy could use some buffs. I want a challenge when I play against him, dammit!
They need to up his damage, he's so weak it's actually embarrassing.
Dynikus (NA)
: I do. Because Yasuo's honestly fine. If you watched the recent "ghostcrawler and meddler go over all 141 league champs" video, NA players rated him 137/140 champions that are fair to play against, while china rated him 23/140. So the major problem people have with him is primarily an NA thing for whatever reason.
Don't people in China play this religiously though, I'm sure they have no problem doing all 400 things needed to outplay a Yasuo. I feel NA is more casual and nobody wants to play League like it's a career just to lane against someone.
: Yasuo isn't unbalanced at all. The main issue is a lot of silver elo players just think of what they want to do and not what the enemy wants to do. You have to interact with {{champion:157}} abilities just as much as he does. Yas is ironically a champion that forces interaction and doesn't require platinum mechanics to defeat. He just requires both parties to play in a trade. This is coming from someone who can have every single one of my abilities and autos blocked by his wind wall. {{champion:51}}
I don't know, I feel like it takes more effort for me to play around his wind wall than it does for him too. Also, Yas doesn't really trade as much as he does just all in because he just has the damage for it. At least from my experiences. His whole kit feels like a Sion ult with no cooldowns lol. Just ride up, knock you up, massive damage, ignore damage. Rinse and repeat. I just kind of have to wait for him to pull a classic Yas and dive me under turret and hope to god I can flash his knockup. Even then if he's a decent Yasuo he can just walk out and wind wall any punishment in return and retry lol. His mind consists of "q, q, q, q, q, q" and everyone else is "oh god flash, kite, kite, bait, shit fuck shit, dodge, fuck shit fuck, poke, shield, HEAL, STOPWATCH, OH GOD, DODGE, SHIT, Q, W, E, R, OH GOD NO" But yes, I agree, I'm sure more hardcore players can easily outplay a Yasuo.
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Zertryx (NA)
: Winning doesnt even feel fun anymore
Just played a game against a Dark Harvest Katarina, she was god awful (the type to jump at you under turret and get stunned and die twice, or take like 3 tower shots without even realizing it) but she just jumps on u and half the time doesn't even need to ult to just delete you in half a second. Overwhelmingly frustrating.
: Imagine if the mission was "Win a game as an all-MALE team"
No grown ass adult is worrying about gender missions.
S0kaX (EUNE)
: Don't worry, I rerolled Heartseeker Vayne and got.... Heartseeker Vayne.....................................
> [{quoted}](name=S0kaX,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3anm9EHZ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-11-04T19:33:08.959+0000) > > Don't worry, I rerolled Heartseeker Vayne and got.... Heartseeker Vayne..................................... no way lol
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Alve (NA)
: Promos are artificially skewed to keep you in your division and playing more
I've come to the same conclusion. I've even made a post about it in the past, every single game up until my promos are clean as fuck but mysteriously as soon as I hit promos my teammates are more talkative, they feed more, they argue more, they troll more. Then it's back to regular non-promos and wouldn't you guess it, more clean games. 2 promos in a row? coincidence. 3+? a pattern. It's too obvious for it not to be rigged, honestly. I've stopped trying in my games, just auto filling and ignoring wherever I am in my division. With promo games being rigged and damage being hilariously high I just can't afford to care anymore, it's just bad for my mental health at this point.
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: Reminder that it will be 2019 and this 3d model will exist in one of the biggest games ever made
Too lazy to find the Veigar 3d model but his hat is so damn clunky, too.
: Looking at the match's timeline data in the API, it was about 8 minutes AFK (18:00 - 25:00 in a 35 minute game). A computer that has an HDD takes about 5 minutes to reboot and reconnect to a game if it's in good condition, going by my own experience. If it's a family computer, or if there's a lot of programs that want to start on startup, then it could easily take an additional 3 minutes. If Riot is going to give him a *loss* in Ranked even when he manages to reconnect and win the match for his team (instead of +0LP), why did they even bother giving him a Reconnect button to begin with? Why not just tell him like it was - "Sorry, your computer hardware makes it impossible for you to avoid loosing LP".
I've always assumed riot just gives you 0LP for disconnecting a game, I was frustrated with just that, but was willing to at least put up with it. But nope, they gave it to me as if I lost my team the game. (Even though I shit on my lane early game so much that when I came back like 5 minutes later he was only 1 level ahead of me.) Knew I was too weak to fight, farmed lanes took towers, used the gold to buy items and slide back into team fights as if nothing had happened in the first place.
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: Normals are too competitive
Honestly, my problem with norms is when you're playing against some high ELO player with their M7 Champ. If I'm playing a champ I already know and have levelled up, I'm usually in a ranked game trying to refine my skills with that champ. But when I'm learning a champion, I want to be in a non-competitive environment like norms and play against someone who's also just goofing around and learning something new maybe. For instance, I wanted to goof around on {{champion:76}} in norms and get her skill shots down but the enemy fizz already has his M7 and is just making all these flashy plays under turrets and warding my jungle and invading it and just one shotting me to the point where I'm not even having fun in the game anymore.
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Ąkąli (NA)
: You can carry by playing hyper passive and rush defensive items. With defensive items its harder to dive you and by playing passive, the only way to kill you is by diving. If the enemy jungler is still camping you at that point, its in your advantage for the rest of your team to play aggressively. A large part of carrying a game now-a-days it paying attention to the enemy jungler and making sure he doesnt do his job. If hes doing one thing, hes NOT doing ten other things.
> [{quoted}](name=Ąkąli,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=A1g2BJwB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-28T20:13:36.139+0000) > > You can carry by playing hyper passive and rush defensive items. With defensive items its harder to dive you and by playing passive, the only way to kill you is by diving. > > If the enemy jungler is still camping you at that point, its in your advantage for the rest of your team to play aggressively. > > A large part of carrying a game now-a-days it paying attention to the enemy jungler and making sure he doesnt do his job. If hes doing one thing, hes NOT doing ten other things. Thank you! That makes sense. I have a tendency to just finish the "recommended" items first but I'll look into focusing defensive when these things happen.
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Quinzley (EUNE)
: I'll take the 10/0 flamer over the 0/10 "good" player.
> [{quoted}](name=Quinzley,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mLeMl1oL,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-15T17:18:05.124+0000) > > I'll take the 10/0 flamer over the 0/10 "good" player. But in reality you can't choose, you get what you get. In some cases, you get 5/0 flaming the 0/5. And their 12-year-old tantrum is only making things worse. Supporting is more than just warding and healing, your attitude could greatly improve morale and help people think clearer.
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: Silver is so stressful.
I wish I knew what gold felt like. I've only ever known what Bronze/Silver feels like. I can climb out of Bronze in time, because players there are so bad that you can usually just push a lane in so hard that you reach the nexus. But in Silver people will stop you and try to kill you, which usually isn't an issue I'll play safe or keep them busy long enough for my team to hopefully be doing something. But in Silver I just feel like people don't understand what exactly is going on. A lot of people just naturally don't think about objectives and rushing turrets. It's hard to guide my teams when they don't even play their champion too well. You see peoples flawed thoughts when they look at your K/D score and assume YOU were the issue. like no, my lane was the last to fall. I was up in CS and even solo killed my laner a couple of times. YOUR lane was kicked in and they GROUPED top and kicked it in 2 towers deep. We lost because Ezreal thinks his champ is designed to only Q. No autos, no follow ups. We lost because I'm the only one taking towers and keeping the lanes clean. Nobody is pushing anything or warding anything. Junglers need to stop buying Sweepers and keep their damn wards so we can see around the map. If I'm playing nasus and I shove a lane in and burst a tower down to half health before they all come to stop me, why wouldnt you collapse on the ONLY person not grouped with the team? I'll spam target them and be like "They are all top, kill him, push the wave, hit turret, push your lanes." It's just not fun when you're the only one who cares enough about the game to learn and better understand. People just que up and spam games for shits and giggles and its like they dont even bother to take anything out of it. They don't care.
: Losing Streaks are the most toxic yet
I feel like I wrote this. I just got to Silver II and now every game since I've been getting people who literally say they are bad. I've had one guy say he never plays ranked and hes "so sorry, honestly just report me, im sorry" and its like... dont be sorry just stop... feeding... Aghhh... Then some others say they are bronze and others flat out just fight with their support and before then people were quiet, focused, even when they lost they played safe, followed up. What happened?
: You shouldn't be getting into many promotions without win streaks. If you are alternating wins and losses, you won't gain enough lp to go into promotions. Unless you are exactly following a win 2 loss 1 pattern, you should be getting a few consequative wins to get your lp enough for promotions.
> [{quoted}](name=haaaaaaalp,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zU661wvT,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-05-07T01:45:45.737+0000) > > You shouldn't be getting into many promotions without win streaks. If you are alternating wins and losses, you won't gain enough lp to go into promotions. Unless you are exactly following a win 2 loss 1 pattern, you should be getting a few consequative wins to get your lp enough for promotions. I win multiple games back to back, then when I get into my promotions I finally lose my streak. Which was my point. How am I winning all of my games back to back but my promo games consist of feeders and people who generally don't know how to play.
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Risen29 (NA)
: Gordon Ramsey talks to his kitchen team the way LOL players talk to thier team.
> [{quoted}](name=Risen29,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Tpoxhe7E,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2018-05-01T22:00:44.919+0000) > > Gordon Ramsey talks to his kitchen team the way LOL players talk to thier team. lol, well hey if a Challenger player wants to come onto my team and give me constructive shit then by all means ...
remakoro (EUNE)
: OP clearly had no childhood and never did sports as well.
> [{quoted}](name=remakoro,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Tpoxhe7E,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2018-05-01T21:03:41.949+0000) > > OP clearly had no childhood and never did sports as well. well actually, I played soccer growing up and lots of hockey, football, and basketball in my free time with friends and other random people. Always playful banter but never any real rage or anti-social behaviour that's constantly seen in this game lol.
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: I am literally about to fucking destroy my fucking phone
Oh man, my father had this issue as well. Every morning! He was *not* a morning person, lol. Which made it worse.
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: What playing flex q for a month taught me about the game...
Preach it, preach it! {{sticker:galio-happy}}
BloopyLad (EUW)
: At least you get skins - My last 2 chests have been champ shards And the few chests before them that have skins... turn out to be skins for champs I don't play xD The luck...
Owch! I'd even prefer that at this point. The skins just keep getting my hopes up. At least I can use the champ shards to buy different champs.
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Aazzlano (NA)
: Just had a guy literally run down mid over and over
Yeah, had a lee sin top go 0/5 and then afk all game. Since people _never_ report players on the enemy team and even players on _your_ team usually leave the lobby after the game right away, he will go unpunished.
Kakwane (NA)
: The League Community isn't anymore toxic than any other game's community
I don't know, I've played a lot of competitive games in my 21 years and although I've definitely come across toxic people throughout every game ever (humans are generally pretty nasty) I feel I come across toxic people in League more frequently and generally more harshly.
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