: Save the Twisted Treeline!
Honestly I am probably gonna quit league with treeline going away. It was by far my favorite game mode to play, hit a point where I was playing with Meteos at one point and against hotshotGG a different time. I don't think I'd ever be willing to try to get the rate I have in treeline on any other mode because in treeline you matter more to your team. I have always come back to playing league just because of all the money I have wasted on this game but this is a tipping point for me.
Leetri (EUW)
: Nah, ARAM is actually popular and people play it.
the player base created ARAM in custom games and rito made it an official game mode. There is literally no way to player create 3v3 cause of the maps available to us.
: Kayle is considered a melee champ.
she is both melee and ranged classified just like all the form swappers. When she toggles her e she is a ranged champion for 10 secs
: Kayle is considered a melee champ so she would not lose rageblade. Besides she is going to get reworked soon so she may not even use it in the future.
she along with Jayce elise and nidalee are to my knowledge the only champs that can use both runaans and tiamat (or any other melee only item) when kayle activates her e and at rank 5 and 20%+ cdr is always up she is classified as ranged hence the old runaans abuse of her 2 seasons ago
: Or make rageblade a melee only item because all abusers are ranged champs.
what about kayle who is already in a bad spot who desperately relies on rageblade
Paroe (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Cuoco Diavolo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TtjVkAXO,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-01-15T05:28:43.614+0000) > > yeah she synergizes more with hail of blades tha n nashors now To be honest i tried diana in the jungle and her spellblade-esque attack speed is amazing for onhit. I was able to reliably break 3.5 attack speed with R hail of blades, which is enough to pop a squishy in ~2 seconds. R into E basically guranteed a kill on everyone who didnt have an instant 'oh shit' button.
the issue is with diana's kit a full build diana can 100-0 a carry in .03 sec if cast right. I love diana and when they introduced champ mastery I was certain she was gonna be my first lvl 6 but that didn't happen. Diana with her kit is a burst assassin/semi fighter that can blow up a person and not get immediately blown up herself. The passive change is pushing her more into a spell weaving fighter which her kit does not support. A standard diana rotation is q r to q target before it lands to meet at the same time w mid dash e to prevent escape then second r to finish them off if needed.
: Diana Passive
yeah she synergizes more with hail of blades tha n nashors now
Juice (EUNE)
: "Powerfarm scaling junglers are now gods" NEVER happened, never ever Even in the ages of most broken feral flare and devourer iterations champions like Lee Sin were STILL the most dominant champs in the game (at the time) who were heavy gankers
> [{quoted}](name=Juice,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nbThG8ok,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2019-01-13T18:32:11.161+0000) > > "Powerfarm scaling junglers are now gods" NEVER happened, never ever > > Even in the ages of most broken feral flare and devourer iterations champions like Lee Sin were STILL the most dominant champs in the game (at the time) who were heavy gankers you are forgetting about the god of patch 4.20 weedwick
Rioter Comments
GigglesO (NA)
: Maybe I'm bad at Math...
idk what mord had built but the major mistake/love of every mord player is that mord placed his shield on a minion. She stood where the shield did damage on top of all of mord spells granting shield if he also had deaths dance/ gun blade it would look like he wan't taking any damage at all but it's more the shield is regening faster than jinx can damage it. It's that's simple. also mord shield grants resistances
: New Ranked Placements Question (3v3 Treeline)
I just got out of a game myself team mmr's were 1800 vs 1400 who do you think won?
: No kidding. Today I played ranked (I'm Plat 3), got matched with 2 irons and a silver. WHILE IM PLATINUM.
> [{quoted}](name=Prodigy ADC Main,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kIR8R42K,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-12-10T00:15:49.154+0000) > > No kidding. Today I played ranked (I'm Plat 3), got matched with 2 irons and a silver. WHILE IM PLATINUM. I was playing with a buddy were both gold ended up in a game with a low silver against hotshotgg another diamond and a plat player tell me how this is fair
: > [{quoted}](name=Gramps69,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XfEvlXoO,comment-id=00020002,timestamp=2018-12-10T19:53:16.673+0000) > > At least you could ban out the problem cases. Now if I want to enjoy my laning phase I need to choose between banning Akali, Zed, Talon, or Yasuo and then hope my teammates/other team bans out the other three. You are actually telling me that new akali has less counter play vs the old one if you think that maybe you have not played vs the old one and zed came out in 2012 like how far do you want to go back.
> [{quoted}](name=boricCentaur1,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XfEvlXoO,comment-id=000200020000,timestamp=2018-12-10T22:18:50.796+0000) > > You are actually telling me that new akali has less counter play vs the old one if you think that maybe you have not played vs the old one and zed came out in 2012 like how far do you want to go back. new akali does have less counter play hell going back to before the vision rework old akali sucked if her opponent got ahead gold wise cause old pink/now control wards were invisible like normal wards but cost more you just always had one of those placed in lane/ one in inventory and she could only go in and have no safety
: Riot needs fix their mmr match making
while this is pre season this s consistent through the normal season too just really pissed me off last night
Rioter Comments
: Adopt a silver?
Not high up actual rank always hovers around gold silver but I play with and against plat, diamond, and master players. 2 of the biggest things that are really over looked in gold and lower is just the general importance of exp. if you can keep a constant flow you'll be amazed at how much better you do. Think of ARAM where until a team gets massively far ahead with gold purchases because of the exp system there you remain pretty even. The second is gold flow in general. The last point but no matter what level you play at you can always improve on is macro map awareness.
: I really....really....really miss being able to completely build runes totally around one champion..
I miss my 4.5% ms udyr and rammus in the jg plus a lot of other fun rune page set ups I had hell because the pages were so fun I had 8 different set ups
: you sure about that? even with 6 bloodthirsters, he would only heal 700+ per hit, which he could only hit one per second
> [{quoted}](name=3TWarrior,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qxAGoVWW,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-23T18:46:15.489+0000) > > you sure about that? even with 6 bloodthirsters, he would only heal 700+ per hit, which he could only hit one per second old sion ult gave 100% life steal that with 6 fully stacked BT's each giving 100 AD and 30% life steal that would put you at over 700 ad with 280% life steal so a hit dealing 600 damage would heal you for 1,680 health ( it also gave him 50% attack speed and allies in range healed for half the amount he does)
: Dark Harvest question
procs all DH is a must run on Karthus for his ult now
Rioter Comments
kaironen (NA)
: League Achievements?
there is it's called rare summ icons from events
: > [{quoted}](name=Cuoco Diavolo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AKgmxA26,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2018-09-27T17:20:41.838+0000) > > the main complaint was ip gating and the fact that jg was almost impossible with out your armor runes. This was also back when jg hurt and it took a lot more skill to jg any champ And the simple way to fix it was make runes free...
> [{quoted}](name=Neptunia xoxo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AKgmxA26,comment-id=000a00000000,timestamp=2018-09-28T00:53:56.325+0000) > > And the simple way to fix it was make runes free... yeah I mean I was one of the people that had every champ so I had pages of runes I loved experimenting with them probably some of the most fun I have had in this game
Naalith (NA)
: @Riot Can you give us any clues or knowledge about the direction of Kayle's update?
core on kayle right now is r and e he main problem is she's a jack of all trades that if ever in a favorable light is oppressive this saddens me cause kayle is also one of my favorite champs I have every skin on her except the ones that were given out before I started playing which were silver and judgement
: This whole new rune system was garbage like I don't understand what the problem was with old runes lol nobody complained about them and they added a lot of theory crafting each season for every champion but now we have these huge differences in early game stats and damage is too high and these keystones like Conqueror / Electrocute literally giving champs 40% increase damage just adding nothing but more balance issues yet when we asked why old runes were being removed and these were coming in they said the old runes caused balance issues like the fuck? I still remember an old post back in the day of season 4/5 where someone asked about what they would do with true damage if it would become a legit stat instead of something rarely seen like only been on things such as twitch poison ect and the response was something like "True damage would cause problems such as providing less counter play ect" but here we are season 8 where true damage is given left and right...
> [{quoted}](name=Neptunia xoxo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AKgmxA26,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2018-09-27T01:21:13.128+0000) > > This whole new rune system was garbage like I don't understand what the problem was with old runes lol nobody complained about them and they added a lot of theory crafting each season for every champion but now we have these huge differences in early game stats and damage is too high and these keystones like Conqueror / Electrocute literally giving champs 40% increase damage just adding nothing but more balance issues yet when we asked why old runes were being removed and these were coming in they said the old runes caused balance issues like the fuck? > I still remember an old post back in the day of season 4/5 where someone asked about what they would do with true damage if it would become a legit stat instead of something rarely seen like only been on things such as twitch poison ect and the response was something like "True damage would cause problems such as providing less counter play ect" but here we are season 8 where true damage is given left and right... the main complaint was ip gating and the fact that jg was almost impossible with out your armor runes. This was also back when jg hurt and it took a lot more skill to jg any champ
: kassadins ban rate is 30% off the infamous 97% pick/ban kassadin times :)))
> [{quoted}](name=KÎŢŢΥKÂŢKÂŢÂRÎÑÂ,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jEAhcHvN,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-09-24T10:46:24.989+0000) > > kassadins ban rate is 30% off the infamous 97% pick/ban kassadin times :))) I too remember the days of must pick/ban kassawin
tuti100 (NA)
: You need to fix Badlands Baron Rumble. The lowest quality 1350 skin in the game because the animations look like absolute garbage and actually make the champion harder to play. It looks good except when he uses abilities.
they to fix the magnificent twisted fate 1820 skin that's 520 tier now
Quyen T (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Cuoco Diavolo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ao0Ea2kN,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-09-25T04:29:20.611+0000) > > gonna be completely honest I am trying to get a smurf down to bronze 5 iron in the future I have my account stuck at silver 4 games have become hard to lose with out actually inting. first thing I recommend doing if you want to climb is 1 focus on cs try to get as close to 10 cs a min as possible in silver 4 people average 5 because they are so focused on kills. Next is map awareness for jungle and lane idk what you play but this is vital to get a head. 3 wave management manipulation freezing. As much as this game is a team game below like gold 2/plat it's really just a stat checker and not being stupid. there are time where you have to make calls and straight up abandon your team because they are going in on a terrible engage. In solo queue you are they only one that matters play smarter and better and it becomes difficult to lose till you go against more organized play Funny enough, I have pretty good map control but not the best, and im usually at a 23 cs advantage according to my stats with hecarim and yi. It’s just that most of the teams I play with prolong the game too much and eventually throw the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Åced,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ao0Ea2kN,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-09-25T04:39:28.165+0000) > > Funny enough, I have pretty good map control but not the best, and im usually at a 23 cs advantage according to my stats with hecarim and yi. It’s just that most of the teams I play with prolong the game too much and eventually throw the game. also if you jg remeber sometimes you actually need to just ignore or laner requests https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2873755407/201624343?tab=overview here is my last game I was playing jg tryn was getting a constant flame from my mid and bot laners cause the enemy yi was showing up in lane and I didn't "seem to respond". I spent the first 15mins of this game with the funnel debuff cause every time yi showed on the map I took half his jg and played according to the map not my team mates
Quyen T (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Cuoco Diavolo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ao0Ea2kN,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-09-25T04:29:20.611+0000) > > gonna be completely honest I am trying to get a smurf down to bronze 5 iron in the future I have my account stuck at silver 4 games have become hard to lose with out actually inting. first thing I recommend doing if you want to climb is 1 focus on cs try to get as close to 10 cs a min as possible in silver 4 people average 5 because they are so focused on kills. Next is map awareness for jungle and lane idk what you play but this is vital to get a head. 3 wave management manipulation freezing. As much as this game is a team game below like gold 2/plat it's really just a stat checker and not being stupid. there are time where you have to make calls and straight up abandon your team because they are going in on a terrible engage. In solo queue you are they only one that matters play smarter and better and it becomes difficult to lose till you go against more organized play Funny enough, I have pretty good map control but not the best, and im usually at a 23 cs advantage according to my stats with hecarim and yi. It’s just that most of the teams I play with prolong the game too much and eventually throw the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Åced,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ao0Ea2kN,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-09-25T04:39:28.165+0000) > > Funny enough, I have pretty good map control but not the best, and im usually at a 23 cs advantage according to my stats with hecarim and yi. It’s just that most of the teams I play with prolong the game too much and eventually throw the game. in that case I would recommend more stat checking jg's like tryn mundo yi xin etc if you can secure the item lead and don't make stupid dives the game is over
Quyen T (NA)
: Help me from demoting to Bronze
gonna be completely honest I am trying to get a smurf down to bronze 5 iron in the future I have my account stuck at silver 4 games have become hard to lose with out actually inting. first thing I recommend doing if you want to climb is 1 focus on cs try to get as close to 10 cs a min as possible in silver 4 people average 5 because they are so focused on kills. Next is map awareness for jungle and lane idk what you play but this is vital to get a head. 3 wave management manipulation freezing. As much as this game is a team game below like gold 2/plat it's really just a stat checker and not being stupid. there are time where you have to make calls and straight up abandon your team because they are going in on a terrible engage. In solo queue you are they only one that matters play smarter and better and it becomes difficult to lose till you go against more organized play
: I'm so fed up with Riot's balance decisions right now
Just gonna say balancing around pro play is like designing and coding games so that they are difficult for your world record speed runners the tech some of these people are capable of are actually just unrealistic to think any normal person is capable of replicating. People watch the pro scene because they want to see the game they normally play done at the highest level. Not to see how they need to play the game to be effective at it. It's stuff like this that really makes me miss the season 3 meta where it was a huge focus on out trading and securing that early gold lead over your opponent. individual lanes weren't lost unless you were really bad till 15 mins into a game FB usually happened around the 10 min mark. Tanks tanked bruisers did a mix and carry's did damage imo it was the best and healthiest season league ever had. Only perma ban in solo queue at the time was kass, and honestly I miss those days.
: Does anyone remember or miss the good old days when people played offmeta stuff in normals?
: Does anyone remember or miss the good old days when people played offmeta stuff in normals?
also when people used to play this in normals https://ultimate-bravery.net/
: I play {{champion:63}} toplane, does that count?
BogOtacIsus (EUNE)
: New Aatrox-good or bad?
I really miss the old unchanged aatrox you back when you got bonus attack speed based on you're blood well that was a fun aatrox
: Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..................... Based on these responses, I don't know what to think. Regardless, thank you for your detailed responses. I'll maybe try him in some games and see how I feel with him.
Check out the Streamer Karasmai he's a challenger jg main who is also arguably the best kayn player in the game
Rioter Comments
: Why is it ok for tanks like Darius and Garen to build full tank and do tons of damage still
so juggernauts and fighters have what was once called the udyr trundle effect. Which is these champs have a hard time getting to a place where they can really do anything, however if they manage to do so they deserve every right to fuck your shit up be it with damage and/or sticking power
: Stop Using Your Heal To Chase a Kill
if they flash away and you don't die you won in the sums trade
Nihilu5 (EUW)
: Smurfs and Unfair matchmaking
it depends on the kind of person you are but personally when I started my friends with lvl 30 accounts on the old system who are also all now diamond masters plat etc taught me to play the game through trial by fire. it was expected I was gonna feed and I had to learn from what worked and what didn't. I don't play regularly enough to really climb but I usually sit around high silver low gold which puts me in the top %20 of league players so if I wanted to really apply myself I know I could climb higher. Also another guy we did this two is now challenger out ranking all of us so it really just matters of do you learn from your mistakes more than anything. Higher skilled players punish you way harder for mistakes than low level. This is the main reason high level play actually seems dull it's because both side are terrified of making a mistake that with lose them lane and possibly game.
dome025 (EUW)
: My thoughts on Zac as someone who liked old Zac and played him from time to time
iirc they changed they blamed top Zac for a lot of the changes they made to him. How Zac going top was a reason to rework his kit I'll never understand.
: with you mention of Luffy and with the release of Pyke I'd love a mini channel on his Q first cast channel throw his arm back the longer the channel the more damage etc and to live the cc fantasy that they aregoing for with the theme of zac make it knock back can be a small one but that with his old ult would be amazing to play imo
> [{quoted}](name=Cuoco Diavolo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pnH25tGT,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-17T17:53:20.213+0000) > > with you mention of Luffy and with the release of Pyke I'd love a mini channel on his Q first cast channel throw his arm back the longer the channel the more damage etc and to live the cc fantasy that they aregoing for with the theme of zac make it knock back can be a small one but that with his old ult would be amazing to play imo I used to love Zac on release up to the rework they gave him he was one of my favorite champs but now I seldomly play him cause I really dislike the kit but still love him as a character
dome025 (EUW)
: My thoughts on Zac as someone who liked old Zac and played him from time to time
with you mention of Luffy and with the release of Pyke I'd love a mini channel on his Q first cast channel throw his arm back the longer the channel the more damage etc and to live the cc fantasy that they aregoing for with the theme of zac make it knock back can be a small one but that with his old ult would be amazing to play imo
Rioter Comments
: Junglers having way too much of an impact
that was the case in season 3-4 but riot didn't like bruisers being strong picks in games cause everyone that plays a squishy complains about them being too tank and having too much damage
Trias000 (EUNE)
: People complain that they get ganked early. (I don't know why. Do they want a "friendly lane till 20:00" policy or what?). Riot nerfs that, so people complain that they can't gank early ;) *sigh*
> [{quoted}](name=Trias000,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wFEvNyLc,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-05-24T05:37:13.508+0000) > > People complain that they get ganked early. (I don't know why. Do they want a "friendly lane till 20:00" policy or what?). Riot nerfs that, so people complain that they can't gank early ;) *sigh* Riot ended that when they deleted atmogs and stopped the sion susan top lane farm fests. I miss those those days
: Solution for all the junglers who are tired of relearning their role every few months (and Scuttles)
What I love about 3's is that there are two meta's existing simultaneously being that of jg comps and support comps both have there perks and open a lot of variety compared to that of SR
: People seem to have forgotten how utterly toxic the game used to be
remember when pink wards existed they were just like normal wards but revealed other wards for 25 more gold i miss that
: It'll probably change in the future. I also won't be able to participate because of work
> [{quoted}](name=The Bearded Bard,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=V0lHHNU6,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-04-12T07:58:09.933+0000) > > It'll probably change in the future. I also won't be able to participate because of work feelsbadman.jpg
Rioter Comments
: I think i know what is wrong with the game (From a new player *silver* point of view)
I remember in season 4 in pro play sneaking an "early drake" it was just bonus gold at that time was with nasus jungle you paid a lot by if blue side flashing over the wall and burning ult to sneak it. KEy thing is early and 6 compared to the joke it is now
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