Mianta (NA)
: That's why ARAM is a different game mode. DIFFERENT being the keyword. Summoners rift is full of tryhards, be it blind, norms, or ranked, because they get the ability to play the champ they want. That's not a bad thing at all, but one tricks and specific champ comps arent always fun to play with. Thus ARAM, a game mode where you're put on champs you may not play, and one where 95% of players dont take too seriously. It's SUBJECTIVELY fun cuz it's different. There's no arguing against that. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
> [{quoted}](name=Mianta,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QbtyQPiF,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T04:36:04.849+0000) > > That's why ARAM is a different game mode. DIFFERENT being the keyword. Summoners rift is full of tryhards, be it blind, norms, or ranked, because they get the ability to play the champ they want. That's not a bad thing at all, but one tricks and specific champ comps arent always fun to play with. Thus ARAM, a game mode where you're put on champs you may not play, and one where 95% of players dont take too seriously. It's SUBJECTIVELY fun cuz it's different. > There's no arguing against that. > {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} If you think its fun, great, I have no argument there, I just haven't been having much fun in ARAM, thats why I made this post. Game after game it seems like I get these teams full of Champs that are all counter picks against my team. Its really annoying actually.
: ARAM means all random, all mid. We you asking for a HA mode that you can pick your champ on?
> [{quoted}](name=Linna Excel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QbtyQPiF,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-10-22T04:47:45.118+0000) > > ARAM means all random, all mid. > > We you asking for a HA mode that you can pick your champ on? Yeah I want to play Howling abyss and just pick my champs. I think it would be more fun. I dislike the random pick thing a lot.
: I'd be fine if riot was willing to try a pick your champ on HA option. They could do it as a 2 week experiment to see what happens. Another thing riot could do is give you a list of 3 champs, with 2 guaranteed to be on the current rotation, and let you pick one of those. Another way of doing this is every 3rd or 4th game you are allowed to pick whichever champ you want to with normal ARAM rules for the other 2 or 3.
> [{quoted}](name=Linna Excel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QbtyQPiF,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-10-22T04:40:58.139+0000) > > I'd be fine if riot was willing to try a pick your champ on HA event. They could do it as a 2 week experiment to see what happens. > > Another thing riot could do is give you a list of 3 champs, with 2 guaranteed to be on the current rotation, and let you pick one of those. Another way of doing this is every 3rd or 4th game you are allowed to pick whichever champ you want to with normal ARAM rules for the other 2 or 3. Oh no, please... I hate that idea....
Syrile (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=DBS Ronovon,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4HYRPEME,comment-id=000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T04:26:32.999+0000) > > Your response is not a bad one, but I just have to point out that the word illogical means "without logic" and there is in fact logic behind what he is saying, even if its not perfect, or sound logic, its logical in some way. > He means to use the outlier example, which exists, can happen, but is rare. > > Thats all I am sayng, watch the way you use the word illogical. I would suggest, if you are going to correct someone's use of a word, that you understand what the word means. Illogical does mean without logic. And what he said is lacking logic. Specifically, the definition of logic is "reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity." The idea that a system would be thrown out that would catch a brand new player and hold them to the same standards as a player who has as much experience as I pointed out does not meet the requirement of the definition of the word "Logic." Thus, illogical is a perfectly acceptable word to use.
> [{quoted}](name=Syrile,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4HYRPEME,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T04:33:22.304+0000) > > I would suggest, if you are going to correct someone's use of a word, that you understand what the word means. > Illogical does mean without logic. And what he said is lacking logic. > Specifically, the definition of logic is "reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity." > The idea that a system would be thrown out that would catch a brand new player and hold them to the same standards as a player who has as much experience as I pointed out does not meet the requirement of the definition of the word "Logic." Thus, illogical is a perfectly acceptable word to use. Well like I said, I had no problem with your response, and I don't mean a slight against you. I just see a difference in flawed logic vs no logic. That is all. If this makes it any more clear to you, then I will have hopefully helped in some way, sorry if I insulted you. Have a good one.
: > [{quoted}](name=DBS Ronovon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=A3cM7jZN,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-10-22T04:06:48.281+0000) > > First, I like the Champ and Jameson Price who does his English voice is Epic AF, but also I like Garen to be viable in Ranked, and if I don't use him in Ranked, why should I use him at all, thus me asking the question, why should I buy the skins. > > It helps he is OP right now, but he has always been a fairly fun, simple, and powerful champ, and should always be, because he is iconic to league and beloved by most I think. He was already ranked viable before the changes. I have a friend who one tricked him to diamond.
> [{quoted}](name=Quality Content,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=A3cM7jZN,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T04:29:48.453+0000) > > He was already ranked viable before the changes. I have a friend who one tricked him to diamond. Well congrats on your friend reaching Diamond, thats awesome! Maybe I will get to Silver again. I just hope he doesn't get nerfed to being worse than he was.
: Worldbuilding - Your Turn! Part III
So we have an Ice map the Freljord's Howling Abyss, the Summoners Rift is a Forest Map, and the Twisted Treeline is a Shadow Isles map, but what about rotating in some Map designs with all the other region themes and different gimmicks to go along with them, isn't there plenty to go off of just there? My only concern would be the game modes, and if they would be fun or not. I think a simple 5v5 mode with all the champs and no crazy gimmicks that take away too much from your champ being the primary source of damage would be best. How about an indoor Halls of Demacia map, or an out door desert Shurima map? Not sure how many of these have been done, I recall the star guardian thing being different maps and being a coop mode which are both great ideas, I just had one complaint, and that was that it was limited to only start guardians. Ixtal or Noxus would be interesting to see. The open plains with blue skies or the rough dark battle torn, blood stained noxus region. {{sticker:garen-swing}}
Syrile (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Terrim,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4HYRPEME,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T01:39:42.259+0000) > > I am a programmer, I can tell you you're not taking into account all the variables. For instance, what if it's a brand new player, they really don't understand the basics of the game, they end up going 0/50/0 in their first 10 games in pvp, they get picked up by the automated system and punished for it. That to me doesn't seem fair, they could put more effort into their system though, it's extremely lacking as far as everyone I've talked to (aside from the community on these boards who go around sniffing each others farts). > > They can't catch them all with an automated system, it's just not possible. But they could be catching a hell of a lot more. All? Sure, that is true. They will not catch everyone. Your statement about the new player is illogical though. The system can easily scale based on games played vs people. Someone who is unranked, has a new account, etc. would not be held the the same standards. However, someone that has an account that plays 700+ games per season for 5 years, is say... Platinum... playing a champion they play 50% of their games on, going 0/10 in the first 15-16 minutes of the game is 100% trolling.
> [{quoted}](name=Syrile,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4HYRPEME,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T04:20:21.708+0000) > > All? Sure, that is true. They will not catch everyone. > Your statement about the new player is illogical though. > The system can easily scale based on games played vs people. > Someone who is unranked, has a new account, etc. would not be held the the same standards. > However, someone that has an account that plays 700+ games per season for 5 years, is say... Platinum... playing a champion they play 50% of their games on, going 0/10 in the first 15-16 minutes of the game is 100% trolling. Your response is not a bad one, but I just have to point out that the word illogical means "without logic" and there is in fact logic behind what he is saying, even if its not perfect, or sound logic, its logical in some way. He means to use the outlier example, which exists, can happen, but is rare. Thats all I am sayng, watch the way you use the word illogical.
: ARAM champions that needs a nerf
Are you saying that if a Champ gets nerfed in ARAM, he won't get Nerfed on the Rift too?
: How is matchmaking still not addressed??
Just made a clone of this post. Its a shit show. Complete garbage matchmaking system that stacks teams so badly its like rolling the dice in gambling.
Prandine (NA)
: In regards to mastery level, that's not a good indicator of champion skill since it only indicates how much a person has played said champ. Other people have already talked about idea 1, so I'll just say that there's a reason these ideas haven't been implemented; because they aren't effective or guaranteed tools at tackling or deterring trolls.
> [{quoted}](name=Prandine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4HYRPEME,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-10-22T04:18:33.991+0000) > > In regards to mastery level, that's not a good indicator of champion skill since it only indicates how much a person has played said champ. Other people have already talked about idea 1, so I'll just say that there's a reason these haven't been implemented; because they aren't effective or guaranteed tools at tackling trolls. you can say that again.
: I don't need your permission to post or reply **anywhere**, got it? You want to win games, stop looking at how you can change everyone else, and look at how you can change yourself.
> [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4HYRPEME,comment-id=000200000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-17T17:33:44.488+0000) > > I don't need your permission to post or reply **anywhere**, got it? > > You want to win games, stop looking at how you can change everyone else, and look at how you can change yourself. Good solid advice man.
Terrim (NA)
: yes it does, because I won't have to waste 20 mins of a game with a guy trying to ruin my fun. Kind of a silly question don't you think?
> [{quoted}](name=Terrim,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4HYRPEME,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-10-22T03:12:31.472+0000) > > yes it does, because I won't have to waste 20 mins of a game with a guy trying to ruin my fun. > > Kind of a silly question don't you think? You won't have to waste 20 minutes ever again? No one else will ever try to ruin your fun? Are you sure?
: If you're only playing a champ cause they're OP and not for fun there's no point buying skins for them.
> [{quoted}](name=Quality Content,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=A3cM7jZN,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-22T03:13:03.668+0000) > > If you're only playing a champ cause they're OP and not for fun there's no point buying skins for them. First, I like the Champ and Jameson Price who does his English voice is Epic AF, but also I like Garen to be viable in Ranked, and if I don't use him in Ranked, why should I use him at all, thus me asking the question, why should I buy the skins. It helps he is OP right now, but he has always been a fairly fun, simple, and powerful champ, and should always be, because he is iconic to league and beloved by most I think.
5050BS (NA)
: Yes if a First grader wants to move to Second Grade they have to beat Second and Third Graders.... That is what Ranked is.
> [{quoted}](name=5050BS,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gYkA9EYM,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-10-22T03:11:21.035+0000) > > Yes if a First grader wants to move to Second Grade they have to beat Second and Third Graders.... > > That is what Ranked is. I never competed with Third Graders in Second Grade. It was all Second Graders doing the same curriculum. Your example is a poor one at best, because even in the Military where Rank primarily comes from, Peers are compared to each other and the top among those peers are promoted to the next rank. Maybe you need to go back and finish First grade.
Verxint (NA)
: If you want a higher rank you have to play at that higher ranks level. If you do, your MMR will climb faster than your rank until you reach your true skill level.
> [{quoted}](name=Verxint,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gYkA9EYM,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-22T03:02:55.980+0000) > > If you want a higher rank you have to play at that higher ranks level. If you do, your MMR will climb faster than your rank until you reach your true skill level. What does a stacked team of enemies vs and team of scrubs teach me as a player?
: 1. It pisses you off 2. You still choose to ignore common sense in favor of your stupid idea that obviously won't work. 3. People can say whatever they want. What gets them banned is negative things they said and how they said it. Case and point.
> [{quoted}](name=Arngrim31,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=PiHzKEeA,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T02:33:51.977+0000) > > 1. It pisses you off > > 2. You still choose to ignore common sense in favor of your stupid idea that obviously won't work. > > 3. People can say whatever they want. What gets them banned is negative things they said said and how they said it. > > Case and point. What case? Please show me the common sense you're talking about. When you say the idea won't work, what do you mean? If won't mitigate a perma ban once? Or Perhaps it won't make Riot any money? Or maybe it won't help with the problem of people doing what they do to earn a ban? The current system allows for mitigating factors called suspensions and chat bans. The current system earns no extra money. The Current system doesn't or has not fixed the overall climate and behavior of players. Nothing about this is obvious.
: If you HAVE to get both, I would say just by God King and wait for Demacia Vice to go on sale. He should be fine post nerf considering he's only getting nerfed in the first place because he's ridiculous in his current state.
> [{quoted}](name=Nut on my Butt,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=A3cM7jZN,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-22T02:30:38.067+0000) > > If you HAVE to get both, I would say just by God King and wait for Demacia Vice to go on sale. I might have to get both. Hmm.... good idea to wait for the sale..... do you really think it will go on sale though?
: I was just placed in iron rank for Twisted Treeline after playing mainly Plat+ opponents
Rioter Comments
: What people learn in 30 levels?
There are what, 145 Champs and in order to get decent at the game you need to know all of them, and how to play well with a few of them. 30 Levels you probably learn 3-4 champs maybe, you may not learn how to cs, trade, or control waves... Who knows what people learn, nothing is obvious in this game.
: >because I am sure you wouldn't quit You're not me, so you can't speak for me. > it only helps people Except it doesn't. Rules applying equally to all players is a bare minimum for people to respect the company enforcing the rules. It doesn't matter if you spent $0 or $1000, you're judged equally. The only people who this benefits are those that Riot wants gone. That's what the perma-ban is for, to start encouraging the player to go elsewhere because their behavior is more detrimental than Riot is willing to tolerate for their business. >News flash buddy, I don't buy it. >If you really want the game to get better, then you would know I am all for making the game better, because I have made countless suggestions that would result in more players playing and having fun. These suggestions and ideas are not implemented as of yet, and this game suffers greatly. >I can assume you are just a snooty holier than thou person and don't actually give a crap about the game, you just want to suck up to Riot and the Forums Mods. If my assumption is wrong please feel free to correct me. News flash, you've made it clear that the ethics of the situation doesn't concern you. I don't respect you so your opinion of me personally is worthless. The idea is shit, if you don't want people to point out why the idea is shit then don't post it.
> [{quoted}](name=AeroWaffle,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=PiHzKEeA,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-10-22T01:47:43.019+0000) > > You're not me, so you can't speak for me. > > Except it doesn't. Rules applying equally to all players is a bare minimum for people to respect the company enforcing the rules. It doesn't matter if you spent $0 or $1000, you're judged equally. > > The only people who this benefits are those that Riot wants gone. That's what the perma-ban is for, to start encouraging the player to go elsewhere because their behavior is more detrimental than Riot is willing to tolerate for their business. > These suggestions and ideas are not implemented as of yet, and this game suffers greatly. > If my assumption is wrong please feel free to correct me. > > News flash, you've made it clear that the ethics of the situation doesn't concern you. I don't respect you so your opinion of me personally is worthless. The idea is shit, if you don't want people to point out why the idea is shit then don't post it. Sounds like you have a Bias. I don't respect you either, and I will just go ahead apply what you have said to league of legends games. If you don't want to deal with people talking trash, then don't play in games. Because that is the same mentality you have, and people who play the game have, and people who post on these forums, yet somehow you think you want whats best for the game but your attitude is why this game is shit, and you're more part of the problem than anything else. Riot doesn't want people around? Or maybe its you who don't want people around? Are you speaking for Riot now? You're just some guy who likes to come onto the forums and brow beat people who have ideas you don't agree with and virtue signal. I am not impressed, and I hope that one day you'll grow a pair and actually have a real discussion about anything.
: And you are an anecdote. A single piece of evidence placed against, frankly, several near-daily examples that don't match your experience/response. A majority of players who are continually toxic, enough so to reach the point where they'd receive a permanent ban, _do not reform after the 14-day ban._ They typically don't care about the repercussions for their misbehavior, and giving them a buffer of any kind won't do any good - they'll just waste it, and in little time at all, they'll get permabanned regardless. Beyond that, as rujitra originally stated; > Money should not **ever** play an impact in player behavior. People should not be allowed to buy their way out of the repercussions for breaking the rules, _ever_.
> [{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=PiHzKEeA,comment-id=0000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T01:41:27.921+0000) > > And you are an anecdote. A single piece of evidence placed against, frankly, several near-daily examples that don't match your experience/response. > > A majority of players who are continually toxic, enough so to reach the point where they'd receive a permanent ban, _do not reform after the 14-day ban._ They typically don't care about the repercussions for their misbehavior, and giving them a buffer of any kind won't do any good - they'll just waste it, and in little time at all, they'll get permabanned regardless. > > Beyond that, as rujitra originally stated; > > People should not be allowed to buy their way out of the repercussions for breaking the rules, _ever_. Well if it doesn't work, then whats the problem with packing on the extra fine for people who can't get it together? I think time is money, and making another account is a form of money because it takes time. Yeah I am one example, which means there are probably others like me, who (God I hate this term) "reform" after a couple chat bans and suspensions. Man I hate even SAYING the word reform like I am some Riot bitch in here kneeling inside of a virtual palace.... Anyways! I think if I had this buffer and being one of the few examples of people who don't do wrong things in game, I think it would give more security in case one day I slipped up, maybe got drunk and start slinging bad language around like a dirty Marine. You never know! If I could buy this Get out of Perma Ban Buffer, I would be more willing to buy more stuff on this account. But its kind of hard to justify it when I could lose everything after one bad game and a bunch of reports resulting in my account being gone for me forever. Thats my plight.
Terrim (NA)
: Suggestions: Deterring The Trolls (Not Trundle)
Does this make the game more fun? Yes or no? If the answer isn't yes, then it is no, and its a bad idea.
: > [{quoted}](name=DBS Ronovon,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=PiHzKEeA,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T01:32:26.354+0000) > > Now I really want this implemented, I hope it happens, and good bye and good luck with whatever new game you'll go play. I will still be playing league no matter what virtue violations they are involved in, because thats not why I play it in the first place fella. This is basically admitting that your intentions are not to do whats best for the game, but rather to get people to leave whom you don't like even if it's to make the game burn.
> [{quoted}](name=AeroWaffle,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=PiHzKEeA,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T01:33:40.012+0000) > > This is basically admitting that your intentions are not for the best of the game, but rather to get people to leave whom you don't like even if it's to make the game burn. Looks like you think your intentions are for the best of the game, and say things you don't mean on the forums, because I am sure you wouldn't quit if this was implemented and it doesn't hurt anyone, it only helps people, you just think its bad because you think you're so good and virtuous that something that allows people to buy back good will from Riot is bad, and you like being able to point and shake your finger at people who make bad decisions or lose their temper and get banned. News flash buddy, I don't buy it. If you really want the game to get better, then you would know I am all for making the game better, because I have made countless suggestions that would result in more players playing and having fun. These suggestions and ideas are not implemented as of yet, and this game suffers greatly. I can assume you are just a snooty holier than thou person and don't actually give a crap about the game, you just want to suck up to Riot and the Forums Mods. If my assumption is wrong please feel free to correct me.
: > [{quoted}](name=DBS Ronovon,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=PiHzKEeA,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-10-22T01:25:42.975+0000) > > So you are saying, if this was implemented, you would stop playing? Yeah. As would a lot of people. I've forgone other companies for less. It would also be a huge deterrent to new players knowing that Riot allows people who pay money to break the rules more.
> [{quoted}](name=AeroWaffle,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=PiHzKEeA,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T01:28:41.855+0000) > > Yeah. As would a lot of people. I've forgone other companies for less. It would also be a huge deterrent to new players knowing that Riot allows people who pay money to break the rules more. Now I really want this implemented, I hope it happens, and good bye and good luck with whatever new game you'll go play. I will still be playing league no matter what virtue violations they are involved in, because thats not why I play it in the first place fella.
: Vote: Is Kai'Sa leagues new poster child?
: >Sound good? No. The monetary gains from such a policy would be completely overshadowed by the loss in customers from the PR nightmare the idea is. The idea that Riot would have an officially sanctioned way to ignore the rules for longer if you pay more money can't be called anything other than selling out ethics for money.
> [{quoted}](name=AeroWaffle,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=PiHzKEeA,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-10-22T01:20:48.100+0000) > > No. > > The monetary gains from such a policy would be completely overshadowed by the loss in customers from the PR nightmare the idea is. > > The idea that Riot would have an officially sanctioned way to ignore the rules for longer if you pay more money can't be called anything other than selling out ethics for money. So you are saying, if this was implemented, you would stop playing?
: You have numerous buffers. It's called the other 3 fucking steps in the punishment ladder.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=PiHzKEeA,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-10-22T01:10:56.214+0000) > > You have numerous buffers. It's called the other 3 fucking steps in the punishment ladder. So why not add a 4th Buffer bud?
: Haha aww. The crime has been reported and the investigation is on. The rest is for Riot's supporting and protecting the people. You are the one commenting here you bigger attention getter, you!
> [{quoted}](name=PaulaSmums,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hwNpwEEh,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2019-10-22T01:07:45.679+0000) > > Haha aww. The crime has been reported and the investigation is on. The rest is for Riot's supporting and protecting the people. You are the one commenting here you bigger attention getter, you! No.... You made the post, YOU are the main attention getter pal! I just made the suggestion for YOUR benefit.
Rioter Comments
: CyberCrime in League
Call the police if there is a crime in progress you attention getter, you!
: Why the fuck should you have to pay for something so incredibly dumb? Learn the rules and learn to keep your cool. Why is that so hard for some people? {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
> [{quoted}](name=Arngrim31,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=PiHzKEeA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-10-22T00:37:14.755+0000) > > Why the fuck should you have to pay for something so incredibly dumb? Learn the rules and learn to keep your cool. Why is that so hard for some people? {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} This game pisses people off. Thats nothing new, why is it so hard for you to learn? No one HAS to pay for anything, I am suggesting it be an option for the people who run their mouths one too many times in chat.
: They would rather to continue to get money from the rest of us who know how to behave in game.
> [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=PiHzKEeA,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T00:32:26.089+0000) > > They would rather to continue to get money from the rest of us who know how to behave in game. Thats weird because ever since I started playing again, I have behaving out of fear of getting banned, and I have also spent zero dollars on this game. So I don't see how those things correlate. I am sure there are plenty of salty assholes who have no problem paying all kinds of money for skins, but they also want to be able to talk without getting a _hurt feelings report_ filed against them to Riot.
rujitra (NA)
: But the **threat** of it is not scaring them. They are only scared once they *get* the permanent ban. Thus the *threat* of a second permanent ban won't scare them again. Riot has tried having more chances. Riot's even done two separate experiments where they unbanned permanently banned players for one last chance. They failed.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=PiHzKEeA,comment-id=00000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T00:56:00.053+0000) > > But the **threat** of it is not scaring them. They are only scared once they *get* the permanent ban. Thus the *threat* of a second permanent ban won't scare them again. > > Riot has tried having more chances. Riot's even done two separate experiments where they unbanned permanently banned players for one last chance. They failed. Not true at all. I got suspended and was given the threat of a possible permanent ban. This scared me because I invested to much money and time. I just took a year off for multiple reasons, but being banned possibly was among those reasons, and after that I haven't been out spoken at all in matches, I stay positive and so far no reports or anything. So the threat of a Perma DID in fact scare me, and I used to talk all the shit in games.
: No. Absolutely not. You want your buffer? It's called the 14 day suspension. This is just saying if you can afford you can get away with toxic behavior for a longer period of time. People want to preserve their investment into the game but in the long run it doesn't have an impact on their ban status. That is vastly different than straight up paying to get out of a situation brought on by your own consistent poor behavior. There is a large difference between the two.
> [{quoted}](name=Kuthillick,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=PiHzKEeA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-22T00:35:48.734+0000) > > No. Absolutely not. You want your buffer? It's called the 14 day suspension. This is just saying if you can afford you can get away with toxic behavior for a longer period of time. > > People want to preserve their investment into the game but in the long run it doesn't have an impact on their ban status. That is vastly different than straight up paying to get out of a situation brought on by your own consistent poor behavior. There is a large difference between the two. Then if the Ban Buffer is the 14 day suspension, then the Ban Buffer would be the one after the 14 day suspension thus making it: The Ban Buffer BUFFER Plus if you have all the time in the world you can make 5 accounts and be a jerk on one until its banned, then play all 4 of the others, which is saying, just because you have more time, you get to be a jerk on league, but thats somehow different than someone having more money and being a jerk on league? Time is money, so basically I can't use the time I spent making money as a benefit in this way, but if I spend time, which can be converted into money by using it to work and earn, I can just play long enough to be a jerk as much as I want because making new accounts is limited only by time spent playing or botting.
rujitra (NA)
: This board would very clearly state that money invested does not stop players from being toxic. Until they've already gotten a permanent ban. And if that doesn't scare them enough once, why do you think it'd work a second time?
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=PiHzKEeA,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-10-22T00:44:09.707+0000) > > This board would very clearly state that money invested does not stop players from being toxic. Until they've already gotten a permanent ban. And if that doesn't scare them enough once, why do you think it'd work a second time? I don't know, why does a suspension scare people who have done it before? I am sure if suspensions scare people, so do Perma bans, so your logic applied here would make sense to support my perspective, would it not? People reform after suspensions or you would see a lot more perma bans, right? So something works, I am just suggesting this for those people who might need one more extra life at league, because they are in a bad spot, and also Riot can make $39.99 for this thing a person may never need to use in the first place, like life insurance.
rujitra (NA)
: Absolutely not. Money should not **ever** play an impact in player behavior.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=PiHzKEeA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-22T00:19:40.321+0000) > > Absolutely not. Money should not **ever** play an impact in player behavior. But it does, people usually stop being assholes because they fear they will get their account with lots of..... YOU GUESSED IT! MONEY invested into it, or TIME which is money if you think about it, so please spare me the nonsense about money not being an impact. You know how you sound right?
: I do , when i play fidd . Otherwise no lmao
> [{quoted}](name=Im Duke Nukem,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mHmEBuOE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-20T21:30:25.969+0000) > > I do , when i play fidd . Otherwise no lmao The Yi Ult fast Fear is great!
: Aram is disgusting
Tanks are the issue.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Veloz Destello,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8EEQgFW7,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-10-21T22:59:24.947+0000) > > Then begin to search for Yuumi's weaknesses, because she have 40 % wr > > Doesn't even have a good winrate in competitive there is a reason she gets banned in Pro play
> [{quoted}](name=CaptainAntiHeroz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8EEQgFW7,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-21T23:26:26.206+0000) > > there is a reason she gets banned in Pro play good thing its a pro ban then, because none of you in here are pros. I guess there is no need to worry then.
: Fiddlestick too oped in ARAM
Its random so you likely won't play against him again.
: I'd rather just have nexus blitz back.
> [{quoted}](name=LightswornLance,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QbtyQPiF,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-10-21T23:23:36.015+0000) > > I'd rather just have nexus blitz back. Was that the game where you had to use some other gimmick to kill the nexus instead of just play and use the champ you picked? Not a fan, but I am sure it has its fan base, I am just not among them.
: `The game would basically become a fuckfest of which team got the better RNG. Got stuck with a team full of supports, guess you lose. It would completely remove any skill aspect in the game, as now you can't change your team comp or your character to more easily deal with the enemy comp. I personally would stop playing. There are a couple of champions that I do not want to play, and being forced to play certain champions sucks. This is fine in ARAM and other specific gamemodes because the games are fast and you always have the option of playing 5v5 and choosing your character
> [{quoted}](name=Registeel1234,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2OuA4zng,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-21T23:20:31.158+0000) > > `The game would basically become a fuckfest of which team got the better RNG. Got stuck with a team full of supports, guess you lose. It would completely remove any skill aspect in the game, as now you can't change your team comp or your character to more easily deal with the enemy comp. > > I personally would stop playing. There are a couple of champions that I do not want to play, and being forced to play certain champions sucks. This is fine in ARAM and other specific gamemodes because the games are fast and you always have the option of playing 5v5 and choosing your character I just posed the question because I think being able to pick your champion is important to both the way the game is played, and the overall fun of the game. Yeah it would be a fuckfest just like ARAM in 5v5 Summoners Rift, and it would be even less competitive than it is now with nerfs, buffs, and jungle changes. True the ARAM games are fast, but not always fun. We did have a 5v5 Summoners Rift mode called AR-URF, remember that? Complete garbage, and it happened. Oh and they put a cannon in it just to top it off with an even bigger slap in the face. Their excuse: the games are fast.
Jaspers (EUW)
: Another way it was good was everyone had the same summoner spells and people could use them in great ways. And it had a second objective too (hit snowballs to summon the King). I thought it was great fun.
> [{quoted}](name=Jaspers,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QbtyQPiF,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2019-10-21T23:19:21.025+0000) > > Another way it was good was everyone had the same summoner spells and people could use them in great ways. And it had a second objective too (hit snowballs to summon the King). I thought it was great fun. Thats a positive for sure, as far as evening the playing field and getting to pick the champ you want. Good point.
: Aram only accounts would reach challenger in no time.
> [{quoted}](name=Packun Flower,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2OuA4zng,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-21T23:16:47.600+0000) > > Aram only accounts would reach challenger in no time. So?
Rioter Comments
: How is this bannable? I have people much more toxic get off with nothing!
Jaspers (EUW)
: You'd get Poro King. A great mode in itself Riot removed.
> [{quoted}](name=Jaspers,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QbtyQPiF,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-10-21T23:06:25.921+0000) > > You'd get Poro King. A great mode in itself Riot removed. The only thing bad about Poro king is the Poro king itself. That being said, its more fun than ARAM at least.
: What would happen if you could pick your Champ in ARAM?
Wait, what does ARAM stand for again? I wasn't sure about this.... actually I am not sure about many things in this game... Is this game called Defense of the Ancients, or is it War Craft 3? What is hexakill? Sounds vicious. What does Literally completely different mean? Is it different than just illiterately completely different? Where should I focus my efforts? Why? Where do you focus your efforts? I wish I was smart like you, and I could know lots of important things like what ARAM stands for, glad I bumped into you.
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