Big Tick (EUW)
: You dont deserve a ban imo, after looking at your logs. [All]DEGAtv: you have a nice big cock, darius [All]DEGAtv: ur making me so hard, darius also lol Keep spamming riot support, they never read the first few tickets properly. I've had to nag them on multiple times to get an issue resolved, or any concrete answer AT ALL. (by spam I mean keep sending tickets after every automated reply, dont send multiple tickets if you haven't received a reply)
> [{quoted}](name=dracocrash,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=cVErgETn,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-01-02T12:25:55.356+0000) > > You dont deserve a ban imo, after looking at your logs. > > [All]DEGAtv: you have a nice big cock, darius > [All]DEGAtv: ur making me so hard, darius > > also lol > > Keep spamming riot support, they never read the first few tickets properly. I've had to nag them on multiple times to get an issue resolved, or any concrete answer AT ALL. > > (by spam I mean keep sending tickets after every automated reply, dont send multiple tickets if you haven't received a reply) Lol, thanks.
: Tbh it doesn’t the context into account so someone may get a chat restriction when all they did was reply to someone who may have said far worse. This is why the system is questionable in my opinion as one guy may somehow say something really toxic and the other guy replies with something way less toxic and the one who is more toxic may get away with it while the other gets punished simply due to circumstances. After a look at ur logs, you really didn’t display any toxicity just arguing with teammates which in my opinion isn’t even close to being worth a 14 day. I really sympathize with you and your situation, good luck man, I feel with luck they MIGHT lower it to a 25 game cr if you remain calm in tickets.
> [{quoted}](name=Fadkiller,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=cVErgETn,comment-id=000000000001000100000000,timestamp=2019-01-02T04:04:08.786+0000) > > Tbh it doesn’t the context into account so someone may get a chat restriction when all they did was reply to someone who may have said far worse. This is why the system is questionable in my opinion as one guy may somehow say something really toxic and the other guy replies with something way less toxic and the one who is more toxic may get away with it while the other gets punished simply due to circumstances. After a look at ur logs, you really didn’t display any toxicity just arguing with teammates which in my opinion isn’t even close to being worth a 14 day. I really sympathize with you and your situation, good luck man, I feel with luck they MIGHT lower it to a 25 game cr if you remain calm in tickets. Yeah, I agree with that. Glad to know I'm not the only one who finds this kind of silly.
: Well, it’s all the other stuff as well. If you say it it’s fine but if it’s like said MULTIPLE times in a game that’s harassment and punishable. Tbh it was probably the bullying part where op said things back to their team, I’ve seen lots of restrictions where simply that kinda attitude doesn’t help.
> [{quoted}](name=Fadkiller,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=cVErgETn,comment-id=0000000000010001,timestamp=2019-01-01T03:19:58.399+0000) > > Well, it’s all the other stuff as well. If you say it it’s fine but if it’s like said MULTIPLE times in a game that’s harassment and punishable. Tbh it was probably the bullying part where op said things back to their team, I’ve seen lots of restrictions where simply that kinda attitude doesn’t help. I just don't feel like I really said anything toxic back to them. All I really said was to stop flaming me.
: It's understandable, there are a fair few people who share that sentiment, but as it stands, calling someone out doesn't really do anything. On the one hand, if you're wrong about what you're calling them out for, then you're falsely accusing someone, and on the other, you're right, but the action itself is ineffectual. The IFS only needs at least one report to review a player's behavior - more reports past the first don't have any added weight, so calling a player out and rallying for reports doesn't serve any real purpose. At any rate, I'd still encourage you to file a Support Ticket to ask for another review of the ban, as well as asking about Riot's policies towards vulgar speech, since, as you pointed out, that would probably be the biggest issue in your log besides. At best, if you've had an otherwise clean history, I could see Riot potentially lowering your punishment, but, can't know for sure 'til it happens.
> [{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=cVErgETn,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2018-12-31T08:25:52.275+0000) > > It's understandable, there are a fair few people who share that sentiment, but as it stands, calling someone out doesn't really do anything. On the one hand, if you're wrong about what you're calling them out for, then you're falsely accusing someone, and on the other, you're right, but the action itself is ineffectual. > > The IFS only needs at least one report to review a player's behavior - more reports past the first don't have any added weight, so calling a player out and rallying for reports doesn't serve any real purpose. > > At any rate, I'd still encourage you to file a Support Ticket to ask for another review of the ban, as well as asking about Riot's policies towards vulgar speech, since, as you pointed out, that would probably be the biggest issue in your log besides. > > At best, if you've had an otherwise clean history, I could see Riot potentially lowering your punishment, but, can't know for sure 'til it happens. I understand that. But when you're being bullied by your entire team, asking for help (i.e "pls report") is only natural. But if you are correct in that it doesn't matter, then so be it. Guess I won't ask for reports anymore. Weird, though, since Riot's automated email showed me my "most heavily reported" games, insinuating that the number of reports _does_ matter. Maybe just poor wording on their part. I can try another support ticket, but the last guy I talked to seemed to not care at all.
DEGAtv (NA)
: Ban Appeal and Told to Come Here??
I didn't think calling a player out for being toxic was "accusing" them of being toxic when they were quite literally being toxic (and Riot has their logs to prove it) and would would be considered punishable. Seems silly to me.
: Well, if Riot sent you here, they're probably encouraging you to get community review and a better understanding of your punishment from the perspective of your peers. You're not obligated to share your logs, but your logs are the only evidence as to whether or not your ban was justified, and while you can definitely keep it between you and Riot, community review doesn't hurt. I will say this much, from a personal standpoint, is that if you're reluctant to provide your chat logs, that usually means you've got something to hide. But, that's only a rule of thumb, and I will take your statements of privacy as they are. I just know someone else will inevitably bring up that suspicion, so, might as well get it out cleanly. At any rate, if Riot sent you here, like I said, they probably figure that you'll get a better understanding of your punishment through the community, so the only thing I can suggest outside of accepting the peer review would be to submit just one more Support Ticket for an appeal.
> [{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=cVErgETn,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-31T06:19:00.036+0000) > > Well, if Riot sent you here, they're probably encouraging you to get community review and a better understanding of your punishment from the perspective of your peers. > > You're not obligated to share your logs, but your logs are the only evidence as to whether or not your ban was justified, and while you can definitely keep it between you and Riot, community review doesn't hurt. > > I will say this much, from a personal standpoint, is that if you're reluctant to provide your chat logs, that usually means you've got something to hide. But, that's only a rule of thumb, and I will take your statements of privacy as they are. I just know someone else will inevitably bring up that suspicion, so, might as well get it out cleanly. > > At any rate, if Riot sent you here, like I said, they probably figure that you'll get a better understanding of your punishment through the community, so the only thing I can suggest outside of accepting the peer review would be to submit just one more Support Ticket for an appeal. Okay, you make some good points. Below is my log for review. I honestly don't think I said anything toxic. And just for context, my entire team was flaming and bullying me because I was playing poorly. The only thing I can think of that could have triggered the system was me saying the word "cock," but that wasn't said in the context of negativity. The Darius was dumpstering me in lane, and I was just teasing him. I honestly thought it was funny, and the Darius had a funny response to it. That's why I wanted to have the ban appealed; I felt like the system just saw the word "cock" and decided to punish me. Log: Pre Game Lobby: DEGAtv: well this is awkward DEGAtv: 😞 DEGAtv: but I'm a yasuo one trick 😞 DEGAtv: yeah DEGAtv: we need some shreeding DEGAtv: shredding* DEGAtv: bork In Game: DEGAtv: me and darius gonna have some fun [All]DEGAtv: rude [All]DEGAtv: darius if yall didnt cheese me in the beginning, this would be a different story. just fyi DEGAtv: im so behind. will need more help DEGAtv: just to voli DEGAtv: and i didnt give it DEGAtv: he had to work for it DEGAtv: this is the worst thing ever DEGAtv: i cant farm DEGAtv: you should probably focus on bot lane, jax DEGAtv: im too behind to help now DEGAtv: just get kog fed. that's our win condition DEGAtv: ?? DEGAtv: why you being mean? DEGAtv: get over yourself DEGAtv: not true DEGAtv: stop being toxic [All]DEGAtv: you have a nice big cock, darius [All]DEGAtv: ur making me so hard, darius [All]DEGAtv: 1v1 me after this [All]DEGAtv: without cheese [All]DEGAtv: you lose [All]DEGAtv: reportable, veigar DEGAtv: yas, respect him dude DEGAtv: he's fed [All]DEGAtv: darius [All]DEGAtv: isnt it time to go to another lane? [All]DEGAtv: lol i knew youd be there DEGAtv: stop being toxic DEGAtv: while you were typing mid you coulda gotten 1000g shut down on darius. I swear you low elo players are so quick to give up DEGAtv: not at important times DEGAtv: go ahead and flame DEGAtv: idc DEGAtv: janna got the 1000. DEGAtv: nice [All]DEGAtv: i know you were clenching [All]DEGAtv: lol exactly. if you died there you woulda been so embarassed DEGAtv: for? DEGAtv: the only reportable thing here is you all being toxic and bullying. DEGAtv: one player does bad and you decide it's gg no chance. it's sad. DEGAtv: not how it works DEGAtv: told jax to snowball bot [All]DEGAtv: gg. report my team flaming
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Kengy (NA)
: I was one of the lucky ones that had a previously permabanned account unbanned. My permaban did not happen this season (it was last season) and I've received no restrictions since getting it unbanned. Will I qualify if I hit honor 2 by the February date?
> [{quoted}](name=Kengy,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=TGYs0hwO,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-11-13T18:46:05.405+0000) > > I was one of the lucky ones that had a previously permabanned account unbanned. My permaban did not happen this season (it was last season) and I've received no restrictions since getting it unbanned. Will I qualify if I hit honor 2 by the February date? How did you get your account unbanned?

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