: $5 to purchase a new account
so true. Remove those bot and ability to buy account and people will maybe refrain from being toxic to anything that move since they will actually be in lost position..
: Stop pushing Karma/Lux/Morgana or any other mage into support.
I kinda agree, god how tilting it is to face mage on bot lane as support..
: > [{quoted}](name=Daddy ReTaric,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XZy9lNHs,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2020-02-13T13:08:29.407+0000) > > It’s always been global. Removing it would create a nightmare like removing ward hop from Lee Sin back then. So was Twisted Fate's Destiny and Pantheon's Grand Star(Sky)fall. Those used to be global but they were reduced to having just a large radius because of how good it was to have 100% map presence. It didn't matter where you were, you were able to have access to either a fight or an objective as long as it was ready to cast. Which is another tangential reason why Teleport and Shen's Stand United has seen so many nerfs. Having the ability to have agency in the map at any time is so powerful.
> [{quoted}](name=l Ryden l,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XZy9lNHs,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2020-02-13T20:14:18.722+0000) > > So was Twisted Fate's Destiny and Pantheon's Grand Star(Sky)fall. Those used to be global but they were reduced to having just a large radius because of how good it was to have 100% map presence. It didn't matter where you were, you were able to have access to either a fight or an objective as long as it was ready to cast. Which is another tangential reason why Teleport and Shen's Stand United has seen so many nerfs. Having the ability to have agency in the map at any time is so powerful. Soraka got her ult nerfed multiple time in the past...Idk what you on
: Riot says no fun allowed. Theyre nerfing sona too.
> [{quoted}](name=Demesejha,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XZy9lNHs,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-02-13T03:56:43.599+0000) > > Riot says no fun allowed. Theyre nerfing sona too. Nerf and compensation in same time.. she get mana back once per aura.
: This is basically a revert to where she once was. Not too too long ago, they over buffed the self heal on her q.
> [{quoted}](name=Pandemic Punch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XZy9lNHs,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2020-02-13T04:13:57.690+0000) > > This is basically a revert to where she once was. Not too too long ago, they over buffed the self heal on her q. Yea it is but it would kill the top lane Raka like they are supposed to do, not actually gut support Raka in same time like the current change do.
: I guess Soraka Tank will back again. No point buying AP any more, not worth with only 30% of AP ratio, just {{item:3174}} {{item:3107}} as always and then {{item:3860}} {{item:3083}} {{item:3110}} {{item:3111}}. I guess this will my main Sorka build.
> [{quoted}](name=Destello Azul,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XZy9lNHs,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2020-02-13T07:18:36.694+0000) > > I guess Soraka Tank will back again. No point buying AP any more, not worth with only 30% of AP ratio, just {{item:3174}} {{item:3107}} as always and then {{item:3860}} {{item:3083}} {{item:3110}} {{item:3111}}. I guess this will my main Sorka build. Yea fuck Ap.
: So she needs to land Q to get the most out of her W. So the just encourage it but it doesn't stop the fact that her Ulti is global and instant. They'll let her be successful for the Soraka mains that have wanted her to be relevant for the longest time, sell a couple of hoe-y PJ and SG Soraka skins, make sure to get a couple of people invested to buy Night/Dawnbinger Soraka AND THEN they'll cut down her ulti to be channelled and non-global.
> [{quoted}](name=l Ryden l,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XZy9lNHs,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2020-02-13T06:37:28.060+0000) > > So she needs to land Q to get the most out of her W. So the just encourage it but it doesn't stop the fact that her Ulti is global and instant. > > They'll let her be successful for the Soraka mains that have wanted her to be relevant for the longest time, sell a couple of hoe-y PJ and SG Soraka skins, make sure to get a couple of people invested to buy Night/Dawnbinger Soraka AND THEN they'll cut down her ulti to be channelled and non-global. It’s always been global. Removing it would create a nightmare like removing ward hop from Lee Sin back then.
Rioter Comments
Kroda13 (NA)
: No
> [{quoted}](name=Kroda13,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XZy9lNHs,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-02-12T23:48:31.706+0000) > > No No what?
Rioter Comments
: Nautillus is a top laner by design. Leona can kinda be played top but dont... there are much better cc top laners Shen, Poppy, Ornn being a few of them that I feel are the strongest currently. For Jungle: Zac, Jarvan and malphite.
> [{quoted}](name=Cind3rkick,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zcURbBkF,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2020-02-10T23:45:54.632+0000) > > Nautillus is a top laner by design. > > Leona can kinda be played top but dont... there are much better cc top laners > > > Shen, Poppy, Ornn being a few of them that I feel are the strongest currently. > > For Jungle: Zac, Jarvan and malphite. Shen meh, poppy meh and ornn? No
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=go6unatora,realm=EUNE,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=UBUmW2EP,comment-id=,timestamp=2020-02-12T09:24:24.683+0000) > > This champion is full of bugs. Like literally. Last game i encountered around 20?!?! Her Q animations doesnt go off and you cant predict it. Her Q does needing fixing, the animation doesn't play alongside the actual ability. >Her Q hitbox doesnt show half of the time. From what I saw from the ability, the only times the indicators didn't show up is during her ultimate, where they aren't supposed it, it says right in her ultimate's description. ACTIVE: Illaoi leaps into the air Unstoppable icon unstoppably before slamming her idol into the ground, dealing physical damage to nearby enemies. For each enemy champion hit, a Tentacle is summoned for 8 seconds (up to a maximum of 6 summons). PHYSICAL DAMAGE: 150 / 250 / 350 (+ 50% bonus AD) For the duration, Harsh Lesson Harsh Lesson's Cooldown reduction icon cooldown is halved, all Tentacles awakened by Illaoi are Playful untargetable, will not show their hitboxes, nor go dormant, and will take half the amount of time to make an attack. https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Illaoi >Tentacles spawned by E hit you even if they die right before attacking. That is most ranged spells, it's like how if Veigar dies while his ultimate is flying out, or Q or W, it still does it's damage, same concept, once the animation and indicator is there, it is going to do it's damage if you don't dodge. >If she hits you with E and ults, tentacles spawned by her E cant be killed and hit instantly which makes them udodgeable Again, that isn't a bug, that is literally what it is supposed to do. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L2hpGZbhOg proof. Fix her or delete her. Such cancerous champions should not be in the game. But you are playing Darius?
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=UBUmW2EP,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-02-12T14:34:03.232+0000) > > Her Q does needing fixing, the animation doesn't play alongside the actual ability. > > From what I saw from the ability, the only times the indicators didn't show up is during her ultimate, where they aren't supposed it, it says right in her ultimate's description. > > ACTIVE: Illaoi leaps into the air Unstoppable icon unstoppably before slamming her idol into the ground, dealing physical damage to nearby enemies. For each enemy champion hit, a Tentacle is summoned for 8 seconds (up to a maximum of 6 summons). > > PHYSICAL DAMAGE: > 150 / 250 / 350 (+ 50% bonus AD) > For the duration, Harsh Lesson Harsh Lesson's Cooldown reduction icon cooldown is halved, all Tentacles awakened by Illaoi are Playful untargetable, will not show their hitboxes, nor go dormant, and will take half the amount of time to make an attack. > > https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Illaoi > > That is most ranged spells, it's like how if Veigar dies while his ultimate is flying out, or Q or W, it still does it's damage, same concept, once the animation and indicator is there, it is going to do it's damage if you don't dodge. > > Again, that isn't a bug, that is literally what it is supposed to do. > > But you are playing Darius? Could not say better. Wp good sir!
: {{champion:875}}
> [{quoted}](name=CaptainAntiHeroz,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9oAo0E0f,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-02-11T23:48:27.122+0000) > > {{champion:875}} Lmfao … so predictable answer.. problem is, I am kinda against the OP champions abusing.
: With the upcoming nerfs for Soraka, can we reintroduce hitting multiple champs with Starcall benefit
It was a fair healing system and it would force her back to bot lane to heal as much , solo healing wouldn't be as beneficial as it is on top lane so she would be easier to be chunked down on solo lane but keep her healthy on bot lane. +1
Rioter Comments
Pika Fox (NA)
: Leona is unable to jungle effectively due to clear speed. Her early CDs are too high for her to realistically clear the jungle early game. As others have said, naut is your best bet.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zcURbBkF,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2020-02-10T21:24:06.961+0000) > > Leona is unable to jungle effectively due to clear speed. Her early CDs are too high for her to realistically clear the jungle early game. As others have said, naut is your best bet. hmm
: Is champion like Leona etc could be viable in other role ?
What about {{champion:12}} with {{item:3800}} ?
Hotarµ (NA)
: >I wonder because I would like to play a tank engage jungler but I don't really like how Sejuani, or Amumu work. Is there any champion worth to take into the jungle assuming the cinderhulk change goes throught? Malphite, Rammus, Zac, Maokai, Volibear, and Nautilus are some champions that fit the description. If you're looking for tank-y champions (not just pure tanks) you could also go with ones like Olaf, Jarvan, or Hecarim. They can get pretty beefy if you follow their standard build path. TBH if you're good enough you could probably make Leona jungle or Leona top work, but eventually you might hit a wall against good players or meta champions in those same roles.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zcURbBkF,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-02-10T21:03:16.497+0000) > > Malphite, Rammus, Zac, Maokai, Volibear, and Nautilus are some champions that fit the description. > > If you're looking for tank-y champions (not just pure tanks) you could also go with ones like Olaf, Jarvan, or Hecarim. They can get pretty beefy if you follow their standard build path. > > TBH if you're good enough you could probably make Leona jungle or Leona top work, but eventually you might hit a wall against good players or meta champions in those same roles. I just like Leona as a stun lock champions and AA boost thanks to her passive. I find Rammus too anti AD , if you face AP you basically end without any realistic utility as taunt an AP champ doesn't make it worthwhile. Mao jungle is pretty meh as his only CC is targetted snare and a slow projectile as ult, wich is fairly easy to dodge. Zac is good but I never had any success with the champ so Idk. Naut could be good but his clear is slow like Leona probly. Volibear is more damage oriented and doesn't provide as much supportive ability. I want to be a supportive engage who basically make the kills easier for my team because I still beleive teamwork should exist, even in the current one shot meta.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Daddy ReTaric,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PfEqu7VR,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-02-04T22:56:46.761+0000) > > Ornn is dogshit troll comment
> [{quoted}](name=DartExplosion10,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PfEqu7VR,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2020-02-05T00:01:36.543+0000) > > troll comment Still true.
: What would happen if Heal and Shield power was moved to the support item?
It would not fix it all, she would do like Sona , buy spellthief and don't farm and still get gold..
Sukishoo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Daddy ReTaric,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8EO4xNGl,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2020-02-04T22:56:03.138+0000) > > Still waiting for Quinn and Taric to receive skin. Taric was confirmed to get one this year.
> [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8EO4xNGl,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2020-02-04T22:58:47.615+0000) > > Taric was confirmed to get one this year. Yea but when? and Quinn got entirely ignored.
: Since soraka top isn't being nerfed next patch
Murr Wurr (OCE)
: Since we're getting skins for less popular champions can my boy Gragas get a new skin?
Remus Wins (EUNE)
: Blood Moon Katarina, Tryndamere, Master YiSkins
Mihalikb (EUW)
: Akali has hit 100% ban rate in pro games
Just revert her entirely. She was binary but not overpowered.
: > [{quoted}](name=Daddy ReTaric,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EbqrN5Jq,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2020-01-25T00:03:06.013+0000) > > Jinx model really need a small update and make her an interactive human not a masked womans with her own face. Im with you.
> [{quoted}](name=Elantees Son,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EbqrN5Jq,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2020-01-29T20:43:28.216+0000) > > Im with you. I thank you for the support
: Taric and Master Yi Funneling Needs to be Removed
This strategy have a lot of counter. AoE CC, ground effect, Morde ult and so on.
: > [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EbqrN5Jq,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2020-01-23T18:01:08.784+0000) > > You never know though, sometimes they do give popular champs multiple in the same year. They did say they were going for 120 new skins this year, so let's hope most of them are actually spread across 120 champions and not double or triple for one champion. if one of them is battle bunny irelia I have no complains.
> [{quoted}](name=Garen is adopted,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EbqrN5Jq,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2020-01-25T01:15:06.590+0000) > > if one of them is battle bunny irelia I have no complains. Lmfao Battle Bunny need to be revived from the dead, such a good skin theme, but no new skin since Riven.
: I don’t mind Jinx getting a new skin..
Jinx model really need a small update and make her an interactive human not a masked womans with her own face.
EdgeLady (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=iSennª,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EbqrN5Jq,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-24T01:05:38.592+0000) > > Yea, the body itself is not so bad but the face… god the face.. give me nightmare Someone downvoted these last two for some reason...{{sticker:sg-lux-2}} Do some people actually like plasterface Jinx?
> [{quoted}](name=EdgeLady,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EbqrN5Jq,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-24T15:21:45.818+0000) > > Someone downvoted these last two for some reason...{{sticker:sg-lux-2}} > > Do some people actually like plasterface Jinx? Who know
: *cries in* {{champion:432}}
> [{quoted}](name=Caretaker Jack,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EbqrN5Jq,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2020-01-24T03:25:25.067+0000) > > *cries in* {{champion:432}} *cries in {{champion:133}} *
EdgeLady (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=iSennª,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EbqrN5Jq,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2020-01-24T00:30:13.128+0000) > > Exactly. In every video she is in, she is extremely expressive and have a lot of excess of excitement. In game is a real joke and doesn't give her credit. Honestly, the model was pretty good for the time, what with all the moving parts of her guns and the fact that her braids do blow around pretty realistically. But nowadays it's really really off-putting with her plastered smile. She's far from the worst base model in the game, however. That honor would go to {{champion:72}} or {{champion:77}}. It's just particularly noticeable with her seeing how prominent she is in media and how expressive she is in other appearances.
> [{quoted}](name=EdgeLady,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EbqrN5Jq,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-24T00:35:07.322+0000) > > Honestly, the model was pretty good for the time, what with all the moving parts of her guns and the fact that her braids do blow around pretty realistically. But nowadays it's really really off-putting with her plastered smile. > > She's by far the worst base model in the game, however. That honor would go to {{champion:72}} or {{champion:77}}. It's just particularly noticeable with her seeing how prominent she is in media and how expressive she is in other appearances. Yea, the body itself is not so bad but the face… god the face.. give me nightmare
EdgeLady (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Quiet Dude,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EbqrN5Jq,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2020-01-23T21:50:17.915+0000) > > I thought her theme was "Manic 'not-like-the-other-girls' crazy-chick"? How would you change her face, when her face is her whole identity as a character? Jinx is supposed to be very expressive; that's why she has so many emotes. Which makes it saddening that she has an in-game model that came out just before or around the time when facial expressions on models became a possible thing.
> [{quoted}](name=EdgeLady,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EbqrN5Jq,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2020-01-23T23:08:03.233+0000) > > Jinx is supposed to be very expressive; that's why she has so many emotes. Which makes it saddening that she has an in-game model that came out just before or around the time when facial expressions on models became a possible thing. Exactly. In every video she is in, she is extremely expressive and have a lot of excess of excitement. In game is a real joke and doesn't give her credit.
Sukishoo (NA)
: You never know though, sometimes they do give popular champs multiple in the same year. They did say they were going for 120 new skins this year, so let's hope most of them are actually spread across 120 champions and not double or triple for one champion.
> [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EbqrN5Jq,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2020-01-23T18:01:08.784+0000) > > You never know though, sometimes they do give popular champs multiple in the same year. They did say they were going for 120 new skins this year, so let's hope most of them are actually spread across 120 champions and not double or triple for one champion. Yes I understand your point but they openly said they will give skins to their cash cows too. I just think some champions should get updated animation and facial expression wise like Jinx.
Rioter Comments
2gudaiya (NA)
: who is even playing or banning akali cause none of my games have her in them.
> [{quoted}](name=2gudaiya,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cRUl27tQ,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2020-01-20T00:30:18.499+0000) > > who is even playing or banning akali cause none of my games have her in them. I get one almost every game
Infernape (EUW)
: You know it's actually astonishing to see that Akali's ban rate post rework is much higher than pre rework Akali's highest peak. Riot took cancer and made it even more cancerous. They did the impossible.
> [{quoted}](name=Infernape,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cRUl27tQ,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2020-01-19T21:32:25.041+0000) > > You know it's actually astonishing to see that Akali's ban rate post rework is much higher than pre rework Akali's highest peak. > > Riot took cancer and made it even more cancerous. They did the impossible. She was weak against many champions. She had clear counterplay and bruiser screwed her really hard. Now it's the opposite.
2gudaiya (NA)
: literally the best rework.
> [{quoted}](name=2gudaiya,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cRUl27tQ,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2020-01-19T20:09:20.826+0000) > > literally the best rework. Yea best rework… obnoxious to play against but best rework..
Zyniya (NA)
: Akali rework was a fail the Aatrox rework was a fail. I can't wait to see Fiddle and Voli reworks. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
> [{quoted}](name=Zyniya,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cRUl27tQ,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2020-01-19T18:39:49.315+0000) > > Akali rework was a fail the Aatrox rework was a fail. I can't wait to see Fiddle and Voli reworks. > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}} Irelia rework was a fail too.
: VGUs will not be reverted.
> [{quoted}](name=ProfDrDeath,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cRUl27tQ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-01-19T17:37:50.348+0000) > > VGUs will not be reverted. She should still.
: Did you even play vs pre rework since it was 100% less fun, had less counter play, and took almost no skill. Like old akali was just press r and you're dead.
> [{quoted}](name=boricCentaur1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cRUl27tQ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-19T17:32:51.453+0000) > > Did you even play vs pre rework since it was 100% less fun, had less counter play, and took almost no skill. > > Like old akali was just press r and you're dead. Maybe but she was also less safe than she is right now. Her Q and R were targetted. She was way more fair to face when if it was targetted.
Rioter Comments
: It's strange to me how a human champion with a good body hasn't gotten a skin in so long.
> [{quoted}](name=Worst Kench NA,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=uGsxAPXR,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-01-17T00:45:48.972+0000) > > It's strange to me how a human champion with a good body hasn't gotten a skin in so long. Who know..
: This is Fabulous news! http://www.auplod.com/u/pdolua802d6.png
> [{quoted}](name=Taric the Gay,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=uGsxAPXR,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-16T23:35:07.634+0000) > > This is Fabulous news! > > http://www.auplod.com/u/pdolua802d6.png I know right ?!
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=iSennª,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oL7bXcLu,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2020-01-14T02:15:51.377+0000) > > Lucian get bullied and don't make bruiser and tank useless entirely. He have to invest in 2 item to do so wich is black cleaver and blade of ruined king and even then, he is dealable with. Vayne true damage you can't itemize and that's what is the most utter bullshit. If the only reason a bruiser/tank is made useless is due to a vayne I am sorry to say this but they aren't very good at it to begin with considering most tanks can just jump into her face and bruisers can easily get in range of her to smash her face in. Want to know something? Vayne is killing you with her regular autos way before she would with her W procs. Building armor and HP is highly efficient against a vayne. Also... if a lucian is being bullied in lane by anyone that isn't named Caitlyn then that lucian is trolling or has no idea how to play him.
> [{quoted}](name=ZephyrDrake,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oL7bXcLu,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2020-01-14T03:10:48.959+0000) > > If the only reason a bruiser/tank is made useless is due to a vayne I am sorry to say this but they aren't very good at it to begin with considering most tanks can just jump into her face and bruisers can easily get in range of her to smash her face in. Want to know something? Vayne is killing you with her regular autos way before she would with her W procs. Building armor and HP is highly efficient against a vayne. Also... if a lucian is being bullied in lane by anyone that isn't named Caitlyn then that lucian is trolling or has no idea how to play him. I play top lane adc and support . When you play a melee top lane and someone pick a ranger, it will suck but you can mostly itemize and out play them at a point and can still manage to win lane. Not against a Vayne. Even if Vayne is a total monkey, she will have upperhand regardless of what you do. You can stomp her but she will eventually crush you. Lucian or whoever you pick ranged top , if you stomp them , they basically dont ever become a problem. Vayne does. Fiora share the % true damage but she have counterplay with it. What counterplay we have with Vayne? Dont get in her range? Cool I get zoned for free as her W is a toggle...the damage need to go down so she go back to the lane she belong, aka bot lane.
Savatgy (NA)
: I main vayne, and I always have thought it would be appropriate to completely change her W from doing true damage, but instead magic damage that scales on AP.
> [{quoted}](name=Savatgy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oL7bXcLu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-01-14T03:23:01.882+0000) > > I main vayne, and I always have thought it would be appropriate to completely change her W from doing true damage, but instead magic damage that scales on AP. When a Vayne main say her W should be changed, I think Im right.
: lucian is way better than vayne, even in her current state, and a good lucian never gets outscaled with the fact he can just bully vayne for the entirety of the game, there are way more problematic adc's than vayne.
> [{quoted}](name=Summoner SpeII,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oL7bXcLu,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-14T02:14:03.284+0000) > > lucian is way better than vayne, even in her current state, and a good lucian never gets outscaled with the fact he can just bully vayne for the entirety of the game, there are way more problematic adc's than vayne. Lucian get bullied and don't make bruiser and tank useless entirely. He have to invest in 2 item to do so wich is black cleaver and blade of ruined king and even then, he is dealable with. Vayne true damage you can't itemize and that's what is the most utter bullshit.
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