Julevi (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=DaddyForDollars,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oUc0vWv4,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-08T05:44:45.782+0000) > > I'm talking about if you're slightly toxic and get lets say two chat restrictions. If you're even mildly toxic or SOMETIMES even just say certain trigger words or phrases even joking the system will auto 14 day ban you. Let me get this straight - you think that the system autobans you as soon as you use these words after 2 punishments without you, a player, getting reported? If this is the case then you are wrong as the system does not check the chat unless someone send in a report.
> [{quoted}](name=Julevi,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oUc0vWv4,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-08T05:50:58.797+0000) > > Let me get this straight - you think that the system autobans you as soon as you use these words after 2 punishments without you, a player, getting reported? If this is the case then you are wrong as the system does not check the chat unless someone send in a report. The AUTOMATED system checks the report and scans for keywords, and or phrases.
: > [{quoted}](name=DaddyForDollars,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oUc0vWv4,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-08T04:15:02.702+0000) > > That's debatable at best, also the system puts you in a seperate "more toxic" category and reports against you are weighed heavier. Also unfair. > > The system is very flawed. And i disagree, yes they might be passive aggressive but i still don't think they're that bad. Arguably not even enough to deserve a ban. > > Also, you're taking a 14 day ban lightly. It's not JUST a 14 day ban. You're banned from all honor and it's straight up locked. Not only that but you lose access to all rewards. It's very serious, which is why i said i don't deserve a ban from that. Maybe a restriction, maybe not even that. > > The issue with the current system is once you've been restricted once or twice leagues system weighs reports against you more heavily because you're considered a "toxic player" so something like this might not even trigger a ban or restriction on another players account. But it did on mine. > > THAT is why i disagree with my punishment, and the system. As someone who has had several tier 1 chat restrictions and nothing else, I can deny that you're prioritized for reports after getting one chat restriction. Yes, they made sure to increase the punishment for toxic behavior (honor and hextech lock) because people weren't taking the standard punishments seriously enough. You ALSO fell under this same issue as you've clearly done that with your chat restrictions. Look, while I agree that your logs aren't NORMALLY worth more than a chat restriction; you've CLEARLY maintained the behavior to the point that chat restrictions aren't enough. This is what it means to escalate for consistent toxic behavior. You ignored the chat restriction punishments you deserved, kept with the behavior, and were given a much more serious punishment. The reason for this is because players who ignored 25-game chat restrictions were pretty much going to ignore all chat restrictions. This was tested heavily back during the tribunal days when Riot took towards reforming versus hard punishment. I remember threads where players seemed proud to have THOUSANDS of chat restricted games and knew that was all they were going to get. Riot decided to adjust the system to deal with those players by escalating the punishment to a 14-day suspension as the 3rd tier of punishment, right after a 25-game chat restriction in tier 2. **So, in essence, you are not admitting to ignoring your chat restrictions and blaming the system rather than your lack of reform after being punished with what you'd normally deserve.** I'm sorry, but this was very much a deserved punishment. You took your chat restrictions too lightly leading to a warranted suspension.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oUc0vWv4,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-08T04:41:01.291+0000) > > As someone who has had several tier 1 chat restrictions and nothing else, I can deny that you're prioritized for reports after getting one chat restriction. > > Yes, they made sure to increase the punishment for toxic behavior (honor and hextech lock) because people weren't taking the standard punishments seriously enough. You ALSO fell under this same issue as you've clearly done that with your chat restrictions. > > Look, while I agree that your logs aren't NORMALLY worth more than a chat restriction; you've CLEARLY maintained the behavior to the point that chat restrictions aren't enough. This is what it means to escalate for consistent toxic behavior. You ignored the chat restriction punishments you deserved, kept with the behavior, and were given a much more serious punishment. The reason for this is because players who ignored 25-game chat restrictions were pretty much going to ignore all chat restrictions. This was tested heavily back during the tribunal days when Riot took towards reforming versus hard punishment. I remember threads where players seemed proud to have THOUSANDS of chat restricted games and knew that was all they were going to get. Riot decided to adjust the system to deal with those players by escalating the punishment to a 14-day suspension as the 3rd tier of punishment, right after a 25-game chat restriction in tier 2. > > **So, in essence, you are not admitting to ignoring your chat restrictions and blaming the system rather than your lack of reform after being punished with what you'd normally deserve.** > > I'm sorry, but this was very much a deserved punishment. You took your chat restrictions too lightly leading to a warranted suspension. I still kinda disagree. But like you said earlier, nothing will probably be done. My other question that was unanswered was "when i get off this ban, will i be chat restricted afterwards or as well?" Also, what i was trying to say (you're 100% wrong on this part) is that once you've been in the system a decent amount it weighs reports heavily against you. You stated you got chat restricted once, and then weren't restricted again proving my wrong. That's a logical fallacy. You could've reformed and been less toxic OR it also might not be as picky if you've only been chat restricted ONCE. I'm talking about if you're slightly toxic and get lets say two chat restrictions. If you're even mildly toxic or SOMETIMES even just say certain trigger words or phrases even joking the system will auto 14 day ban you. Whereas someone who hasn't been restricted before might get NOTHING from that once or even twice. THAT is what i was saying.
Hotarµ (NA)
: >I was stating i was in silver, because i was and that was taken out of context my team was ragging ME and i said "mids fault feeding" because that's what they said to me. I was mimicing them. That's another issue with the system, it doesn't know that. I literally wasn't being toxic. Just repeating back what they said "mids fault feeding" i was the mid player. If that is the case, sorry for misunderstanding, but either way, everything else I said still stands. The system can determine context in some cases (inferring inflections from previous lines + future ones you type) and that definitely isn't what warranted a punishment on it's own, it's one piece of the very large puzzle across your 3 games. >I didn't even afk as well. Also, the inting part was them yet again saying I personally was inting, so i said "100% inting" because it was clear i wasn't inting at all. Even then, saying you're going to AFK or int is unacceptable. If you're baiting your teammates, that's not right in any scenario. > I fully disagree, my behavior was light at best. The issue is riot has almost NEVER if EVER reverted a ban or chat restriction. They won't admit their automated system has flaws. I think i should've recieved another chat restriction, maybe. Whether you agree with them or not, rules are rules and you agreed to adhere to them when you accepted the Terms of Use. By your 25-game chat restriction you should have known what behavior wasn't acceptable. > > If this was on a newer account even if it happened over a few games i gaurantee you i probably wouldn't have even recieved a chat restriction. These games most definitely would have given you a chat restriction if you had a clean slate. Riot punishes based on severity and consistency, you've been consistently negative so you went up the ladder to the point you're at now. Permanently escalating chat restrictions are no longer a thing because they were proven to be ineffective. > > Also, do i get a chat restriction AGAIN after the 14 day ban too cause i remember once after a previous 14 day ban ( a loooongg time ago) i had a chat restriction after it as well. Your punishment status can decay over time but it takes consistent positive action, you can't just stay neutral or quiet in your games. If you aren't positive you won't be working back down the ladder.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oUc0vWv4,comment-id=000200010000,timestamp=2019-05-08T05:16:21.919+0000) > > If that is the case, sorry for misunderstanding, but either way, everything else I said still stands. > > The system can determine context in some cases (inferring inflections from previous lines + future ones you type) and that definitely isn't what warranted a punishment on it's own, it's one piece of the very large puzzle across your 3 games. > > Even then, saying you're going to AFK or int is unacceptable. If you're baiting your teammates, that's not right in any scenario. > > > Whether you agree with them or not, rules are rules and you agreed to adhere to them when you accepted the Terms of Use. By your 25-game chat restriction you should have known what behavior wasn't acceptable. > > > > These games most definitely would have given you a chat restriction if you had a clean slate. Riot punishes based on severity and consistency, you've been consistently negative so you went up the ladder to the point you're at now. Permanently escalating chat restrictions are no longer a thing because they were proven to be ineffective. > > Your punishment status can decay over time but it takes consistent positive action, you can't just stay neutral or quiet in your games. If you aren't positive you won't be working back down the ladder. You aren't getting what i was saying on the fact that the system puts you in a higher priority where reports are taken more seriously and you can more easily get banned then someone who hasn't been through the system as much. I know this because i've had numerous smurf accounts and as well as my own account and i can confirm it does pick and choose to a degree. Also, it said i lost access to rewards, are you saying i can get them back this season or no that's gone for sure? You misunderstood my last question partially. When my ban comes off, will i be chat restricted afterwards as part of the punishment or just unbanned? That's what i was asking.
Hotarµ (NA)
: If you want a manual review you can file a support ticket, although they're going to tell you pretty much what I'm telling you. As you rise through the punishment tiers (10 game chat restriction, 25 game chat restriction, 14 day gameplay ban) your account is essentially placed on thinner and thinner ice. It can take as little as one game to go from a 14 day ban to a permanent suspension since you're right under Riot's microscope. That being said, these logs were pretty bad on their own and there's a lot of problems with them. _____________ Straight from the jump in Game 1 you're _really_ passive-aggressive/aggressive with your teammates. >Riven The Exil3d: yes guys Riven The Exil3d: lets chat >Riven The Exil3d: while im being Riven The Exil3d: gangbanged >Riven The Exil3d: great Riven The Exil3d: wonderful xin Riven The Exil3d: grade A aggressive jung >Riven The Exil3d: who fucking cares Riven The Exil3d: just play. You're also threatening to AFK which isn't acceptable, even if you never do it. >Riven The Exil3d: its fine >Riven The Exil3d: ill afk Riven The Exil3d: gl Throughout the entire game you're also ragging on your teammates scores', commenting on their performance, and in one instance you called them inters. >Riven The Exil3d: silver team Riven The Exil3d: silver elo Riven The Exil3d: mid difference too good Riven The Exil3d: mids fault feeding Riven The Exil3d: 100% wasn't inting Riven The Exil3d: good thing we're bot Riven The Exil3d: as enemy team is ending the fucking game Game 2 is just more of the same, ragging on teammates, threatening to AFK, Game 3 has some negativity as well. At this point you should know what type of behavior is unacceptable and Riot won't overturn this as it wasn't placed in error. Your next punishment _will_ be a permanent suspension regardless of how negative it is.
I fully disagree, my behavior was light at best. The issue is riot has almost NEVER if EVER reverted a ban or chat restriction. They won't admit their automated system has flaws. I think i should've recieved another chat restriction, maybe. If this was on a newer account even if it happened over a few games i gaurantee you i probably wouldn't have even recieved a chat restriction. Also, do i get a chat restriction AGAIN after the 14 day ban too cause i remember once after a previous 14 day ban ( a loooongg time ago) i had a chat restriction after it as well.
Hotarµ (NA)
: If you want a manual review you can file a support ticket, although they're going to tell you pretty much what I'm telling you. As you rise through the punishment tiers (10 game chat restriction, 25 game chat restriction, 14 day gameplay ban) your account is essentially placed on thinner and thinner ice. It can take as little as one game to go from a 14 day ban to a permanent suspension since you're right under Riot's microscope. That being said, these logs were pretty bad on their own and there's a lot of problems with them. _____________ Straight from the jump in Game 1 you're _really_ passive-aggressive/aggressive with your teammates. >Riven The Exil3d: yes guys Riven The Exil3d: lets chat >Riven The Exil3d: while im being Riven The Exil3d: gangbanged >Riven The Exil3d: great Riven The Exil3d: wonderful xin Riven The Exil3d: grade A aggressive jung >Riven The Exil3d: who fucking cares Riven The Exil3d: just play. You're also threatening to AFK which isn't acceptable, even if you never do it. >Riven The Exil3d: its fine >Riven The Exil3d: ill afk Riven The Exil3d: gl Throughout the entire game you're also ragging on your teammates scores', commenting on their performance, and in one instance you called them inters. >Riven The Exil3d: silver team Riven The Exil3d: silver elo Riven The Exil3d: mid difference too good Riven The Exil3d: mids fault feeding Riven The Exil3d: 100% wasn't inting Riven The Exil3d: good thing we're bot Riven The Exil3d: as enemy team is ending the fucking game Game 2 is just more of the same, ragging on teammates, threatening to AFK, Game 3 has some negativity as well. At this point you should know what type of behavior is unacceptable and Riot won't overturn this as it wasn't placed in error. Your next punishment _will_ be a permanent suspension regardless of how negative it is.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oUc0vWv4,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-05-08T04:06:28.194+0000) > > If you want a manual review you can file a support ticket, although they're going to tell you pretty much what I'm telling you. > > As you rise through the punishment tiers (10 game chat restriction, 25 game chat restriction, 14 day gameplay ban) your account is essentially placed on thinner and thinner ice. It can take as little as one game to go from a 14 day ban to a permanent suspension since you're right under Riot's microscope. > > That being said, these logs were pretty bad on their own and there's a lot of problems with them. > > _____________ > > Straight from the jump in Game 1 you're _really_ passive-aggressive/aggressive with your teammates. > Riven The Exil3d: lets chat > Riven The Exil3d: gangbanged > Riven The Exil3d: wonderful xin > Riven The Exil3d: grade A aggressive jung > Riven The Exil3d: just play. > > You're also threatening to AFK which isn't acceptable, even if you never do it. > Riven The Exil3d: gl > > > Throughout the entire game you're also ragging on your teammates scores', commenting on their performance, and in one instance you called them inters. > Riven The Exil3d: silver elo > Riven The Exil3d: mid difference too good > Riven The Exil3d: mids fault feeding > Riven The Exil3d: 100% wasn't inting > Riven The Exil3d: good thing we're bot > Riven The Exil3d: as enemy team is ending the fucking game > > Game 2 is just more of the same, ragging on teammates, threatening to AFK, Game 3 has some negativity as well. At this point you should know what type of behavior is unacceptable and Riot won't overturn this as it wasn't placed in error. Your next punishment _will_ be a permanent suspension regardless of how negative it is. I was stating i was in silver, because i was and that was taken out of context my team was ragging ME and i said "mids fault feeding" because that's what they said to me. I was mimicing them. That's another issue with the system, it doesn't know that. I literally wasn't being toxic. Just repeating back what they said "mids fault feeding" i was the mid player. I didn't even afk as well. Also, the inting part was them yet again saying I personally was inting, so i said "100% inting" because it was clear i wasn't inting at all.
: > [{quoted}](name=DaddyForDollars,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oUc0vWv4,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-08T03:56:02.524+0000) > > But the problem is, a 14 day ban is supposed to be a more serious punishment. Before a perma. > > My behavior isn't deserving of a serious punishment. Maybe a chat restrction. > > Furthermore, my logs aren't even toxic. If i was reported it would be for verbal abuse or negative attitude, and my logs are negative attitude at best. > > Which doesn't deserve a 14 day ban. You CLEARLY didn't read my first sentence. "Consistent toxicity can lead to a 14-day suspension, even if it's light." If you didn't correct your behavior enough after 2 chat restrictions, of course your punishment will be escalated. I explained that as well in the first chunk. Secondly, I went through your logs. Pretty consistent poor attitude along with plenty of passive aggressive harassment. I would have reported you as well for these logs as you're making commentary that's far from constructive and ultimately unhelpful.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oUc0vWv4,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-05-08T04:01:50.334+0000) > > You CLEARLY didn't read my first sentence. "Consistent toxicity can lead to a 14-day suspension, even if it's light." If you didn't correct your behavior enough after 2 chat restrictions, of course your punishment will be escalated. I explained that as well in the first chunk. > > Secondly, I went through your logs. Pretty consistent poor attitude along with plenty of passive aggressive harassment. I would have reported you as well for these logs as you're making commentary that's far from constructive and ultimately unhelpful. That's debatable at best, also the system puts you in a seperate "more toxic" category and reports against you are weighed heavier. Also unfair. The system is very flawed. And i disagree, yes they might be passive aggressive but i still don't think they're that bad. Arguably not even enough to deserve a ban. Also, you're taking a 14 day ban lightly. It's not JUST a 14 day ban. You're banned from all honor and it's straight up locked. Not only that but you lose access to all rewards. It's very serious, which is why i said i don't deserve a ban from that. Maybe a restriction, maybe not even that. The issue with the current system is once you've been restricted once or twice leagues system weighs reports against you more heavily because you're considered a "toxic player" so something like this might not even trigger a ban or restriction on another players account. But it did on mine. THAT is why i disagree with my punishment, and the system.
: See, you can still get a 14 day suspension for consistent toxicity, even if it's light. There's a reason chat restrictions come before that 2 week punishment; to warn you that your behavior is out of line. > [{quoted}](name=DaddyForDollars,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oUc0vWv4,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-08T03:46:35.071+0000) > > ALSO, before anyone says "yeah those are bad" i've seen WAY WAY WAYYYYY worse on the DAILY and my logs show someone irritated, at best. Mildly toxic. A 14 day ban seems very harsh for these logs, which is why i'm asking for review. Doesn't matter what other people did. You're being punished for your behavior. And it doesn't matter if you were prodded into it either as you're supposed to mute, report and move on. BTW, I'm not saying you're supposed to be happy about toxic allies. Just that being toxic yourself doesn't solve the problem. Reporting toxic players helps remove them and the mute button isn't an excuse for anyone to be toxic at all.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oUc0vWv4,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-08T03:52:12.102+0000) > > See, you can still get a 14 day suspension for consistent toxicity, even if it's light. There's a reason chat restrictions come before that 2 week punishment; to warn you that your behavior is out of line. > > Doesn't matter what other people did. You're being punished for your behavior. And it doesn't matter if you were prodded into it either as you're supposed to mute, report and move on. > > BTW, I'm not saying you're supposed to be happy about toxic allies. Just that being toxic yourself doesn't solve the problem. Reporting toxic players helps remove them and the mute button isn't an excuse for anyone to be toxic at all. But the problem is, a 14 day ban is supposed to be a more serious punishment. Before a perma. My behavior isn't deserving of a serious punishment. Maybe a chat restrction. Furthermore, my logs aren't even toxic. If i was reported it would be for verbal abuse or negative attitude, and my logs are negative attitude at best. Which doesn't deserve a 14 day ban.
: Riot employees, please review my chat logs that just got me a 14 day ban. They aren't that bad.
ALSO, before anyone says "yeah those are bad" i've seen WAY WAY WAYYYYY worse on the DAILY and my logs show someone irritated, at best. Mildly toxic. A 14 day ban seems very harsh for these logs, which is why i'm asking for review.
Rioter Comments
rujitra (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=DaddyForDollars,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BpTwXEjl,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T22:27:50.580+0000) > > Patterns use keywords. It still has to look for certain patterns, words, and criteria. If it looked for keywords, then "you're an idiot" and "I'm an idiot" would have the same outcome. They do not have the same outcome. One is punished. One is not. It is not "keywords".
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BpTwXEjl,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T22:33:30.655+0000) > > If it looked for keywords, then "you're an idiot" and "I'm an idiot" would have the same outcome. > > They do not have the same outcome. One is punished. One is not. > > It is not "keywords". Still automated, also, i looked through all 3 of the logs that were supposedly SO BAD they got me a 14 day chat restriction. I gotta say i've seen WAY worse, and arguably i didn't even deserve a ban from them. Game 1 In-Game Riven The Exil3d: only if you have enough gold.. Riven The Exil3d: yes guys Riven The Exil3d: lets chat Riven The Exil3d: while im being Riven The Exil3d: gangbanged Riven The Exil3d: great Riven The Exil3d: wonderful xin Riven The Exil3d: grade A aggressive jung Riven The Exil3d: who fucking cares Riven The Exil3d: just play. Riven The Exil3d: mids shoved Riven The Exil3d: pretty obvious.. Riven The Exil3d: also Riven The Exil3d: top Riven The Exil3d: i mean Riven The Exil3d: it wasnt enough Riven The Exil3d: guys if you have an mia Riven The Exil3d: spam more Riven The Exil3d: like that Riven The Exil3d: so stupid Riven The Exil3d: cover mid Riven The Exil3d: xin is a ganking jung man Riven The Exil3d: shouldnt be outjunged by rammus.. Riven The Exil3d: he already took tath Riven The Exil3d: that Riven The Exil3d: i couldve told you that.. Riven The Exil3d: what killed me Riven The Exil3d: guess Riven The Exil3d: what Riven The Exil3d: rammus Riven The Exil3d: mid again :) Riven The Exil3d: xin mid times Riven The Exil3d: zer0 Riven The Exil3d: dude Riven The Exil3d: shes gunna Riven The Exil3d: literally run thhe wholee game Riven The Exil3d: you missed all those cs Riven The Exil3d: o.k Riven The Exil3d: xin farming ok Riven The Exil3d: its fine Riven The Exil3d: ill afk Riven The Exil3d: gl Riven The Exil3d: you wanna be stubborn Riven The Exil3d: ill show you Riven The Exil3d: o k Riven The Exil3d: this games corny lmao Riven The Exil3d: huh Riven The Exil3d: bot Riven The Exil3d: l2 rotate Riven The Exil3d: ok jhin get the cs Riven The Exil3d: dead Riven The Exil3d: there they are: ) Riven The Exil3d: thers blitz Riven The Exil3d: my lane again Riven The Exil3d: oh look Riven The Exil3d: hehuhuehu Riven The Exil3d: bronze elo ok Riven The Exil3d: missed Riven The Exil3d: dead again Riven The Exil3d: you farmed all game jung Riven The Exil3d: i mean Riven The Exil3d: believe what you want Riven The Exil3d: certainly not Riven The Exil3d: you calling your lame roaming multiple times Riven The Exil3d: failing to Riven The Exil3d: its your teammates Riven The Exil3d: thats why your bronze Riven The Exil3d: three times total Riven The Exil3d: oh ok Riven The Exil3d: you're good Riven The Exil3d: i got it Riven The Exil3d: i believe Riven The Exil3d: 3 people on me Riven The Exil3d: good thing we got bot turret Riven The Exil3d: and tops still losing Riven The Exil3d: o.k Riven The Exil3d: nasus its your teammates dude Riven The Exil3d: believe it Riven The Exil3d: nice blue xin Riven The Exil3d: youre doing a lot with it Riven The Exil3d: going b again Riven The Exil3d: oo.k Riven The Exil3d: good thing Riven The Exil3d: we're all bot Riven The Exil3d: while enemy barons Riven The Exil3d: ping ryze mia tho Riven The Exil3d: ok Riven The Exil3d: ok Riven The Exil3d: good thing we're bot Riven The Exil3d: as enemy team is ending the fucking game Riven The Exil3d: o.k Riven The Exil3d: open Riven The Exil3d: next Riven The Exil3d: triforce warrior xin Riven The Exil3d: never ganked anyone Riven The Exil3d: all lanes lost Riven The Exil3d: lost to rammus a late game champ Riven The Exil3d: nasus top roams kills our bot Riven The Exil3d: i go even in lane all game Riven The Exil3d: my fault tho Riven The Exil3d: everyone roamed me all game Riven The Exil3d: o.k Riven The Exil3d: no one mias Riven The Exil3d: or follows Riven The Exil3d: silver team Riven The Exil3d: silver elo Riven The Exil3d: o.k Riven The Exil3d: xin showed you Post-Game Riven The Exil3d: mid difference too good Riven The Exil3d: proceeds to never gank any lane or the super shoved up lulu Riven The Exil3d: says i shove up Riven The Exil3d: tops lane roams Riven The Exil3d: gets double kill Riven The Exil3d: mids fault feeding Riven The Exil3d: 100% wasn't inting Game 2 Pre-Game Riven The Exil3d: yas ban In-Game Riven The Exil3d: sec Riven The Exil3d: js. Riven The Exil3d: jarvan Riven The Exil3d: the master Riven The Exil3d: of Riven The Exil3d: b keying Riven The Exil3d: no reason tho Riven The Exil3d: wyd.. Riven The Exil3d: i didnt have lane priority. Riven The Exil3d: i saw it Riven The Exil3d: i didnt have lane priority Riven The Exil3d: jarvan Riven The Exil3d: doesnt see me shoved all game Riven The Exil3d: farm Riven The Exil3d: dont stand still Riven The Exil3d: hey guys Riven The Exil3d: wyd Riven The Exil3d: i mean Riven The Exil3d: you could Riven The Exil3d: go Riven The Exil3d: i had Riven The Exil3d: their jung Riven The Exil3d: low hjp Riven The Exil3d: and hes Riven The Exil3d: but Riven The Exil3d: oik Riven The Exil3d: ok Riven The Exil3d: yikes Riven The Exil3d: 1/4 Riven The Exil3d: he healed Riven The Exil3d: after Riven The Exil3d: complete cancer Riven The Exil3d: stage 4 melanoma Riven The Exil3d: report who Riven The Exil3d: not me Riven The Exil3d: how am i trolling? Riven The Exil3d: go? Riven The Exil3d: my ult? Riven The Exil3d: it didnt go off. Riven The Exil3d: seriously?\ Riven The Exil3d: you suck lmao Riven The Exil3d: ok Riven The Exil3d: bt dubs Riven The Exil3d: thresh was in my lane Riven The Exil3d: all game Riven The Exil3d: or their jung Riven The Exil3d: i never saw j4 Riven The Exil3d: mid or bot Riven The Exil3d: next game guys Riven The Exil3d: pay attention Riven The Exil3d: i'd be li,ke Riven The Exil3d: 1-2 Riven The Exil3d: other Riven The Exil3d: wise Riven The Exil3d: o.k Riven The Exil3d: no wards on the map Riven The Exil3d: youve had support ward item Riven The Exil3d: and a control Riven The Exil3d: all game Riven The Exil3d: so fuckin bad Riven The Exil3d: 4? Riven The Exil3d: i was roamed on 4 times by you... Riven The Exil3d: also Riven The Exil3d: ryze has a 40% winrate in all elos Riven The Exil3d: hes one of the worst champs rn Riven The Exil3d: nerfplz Riven The Exil3d: very Riven The Exil3d: incorrect Post-Game Riven The Exil3d: highest damage Riven The Exil3d: you never ganked anyone Riven The Exil3d: bot fed and never warded Riven The Exil3d: report me tho Riven The Exil3d: ok Riven The Exil3d: it wont do anything Riven The Exil3d: you did Riven The Exil3d: bro Riven The Exil3d: thresh roamed me Riven The Exil3d: a solid Riven The Exil3d: 4 times Riven The Exil3d: maybe 5 Riven The Exil3d: lol they left Riven The Exil3d: lmfao Game 3 In-Game Riven The Exil3d: WARD MY RED Riven The Exil3d: its yi jung Riven The Exil3d: counterjungle master Riven The Exil3d: you guys gotta look Riven The Exil3d: jayceeboiiibaby Riven The Exil3d: red Riven The Exil3d: pl09xx Riven The Exil3d: mids a bot Riven The Exil3d: no ganks 4 u bb Riven The Exil3d: starting wolves Riven The Exil3d: yelp Riven The Exil3d: this is lookin Riven The Exil3d: like a bad guy Riven The Exil3d: i suggest Riven The Exil3d: you stop him from getting crab Riven The Exil3d: did you take bot crab Riven The Exil3d: i will afk Riven The Exil3d: if you guys dont understand Riven The Exil3d: also bot Riven The Exil3d: hes coming Riven The Exil3d: STOP HERR Riven The Exil3d: STOP HER Riven The Exil3d: stop Riven The Exil3d: HER Riven The Exil3d: omfg Riven The Exil3d: confirmed non silver yi Riven The Exil3d: gg Riven The Exil3d: my whole jung is gone Riven The Exil3d: gg Riven The Exil3d: gg Riven The Exil3d: lol so bad Riven The Exil3d: go fucking in Riven The Exil3d: yi will own Riven The Exil3d: stop crab Riven The Exil3d: yi will own Riven The Exil3d: stop Riven The Exil3d: yi Riven The Exil3d: yi Riven The Exil3d: just leave Riven The Exil3d: if i do Riven The Exil3d: hes Riven The Exil3d: at my red Riven The Exil3d: your r slows btw gp Riven The Exil3d: and Riven The Exil3d: you just gave them doubles Riven The Exil3d: when Riven The Exil3d: you couldve ulted on me Riven The Exil3d: bait Riven The Exil3d: here Riven The Exil3d: im invis Riven The Exil3d: ok Riven The Exil3d: no it hit Riven The Exil3d: oh. Riven The Exil3d: if you ward my red Riven The Exil3d: i will gift you all Riven The Exil3d: 500gp Riven The Exil3d: rp Riven The Exil3d: thats Riven The Exil3d: 10 dollars Riven The Exil3d: jayce Riven The Exil3d: invis again Riven The Exil3d: go Riven The Exil3d: dude Riven The Exil3d: do you know how to barrel Riven The Exil3d: over shit Riven The Exil3d: cmon man Riven The Exil3d: what did you guys even do Riven The Exil3d: i got drag Riven The Exil3d: secured it Riven The Exil3d: killed yi Riven The Exil3d: then you all Riven The Exil3d: did Riven The Exil3d: ? Riven The Exil3d: this vayne is nutty Riven The Exil3d: he can turn Riven The Exil3d: and r Riven The Exil3d: or inhib Riven The Exil3d: fine Riven The Exil3d: any wards
rujitra (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=DaddyForDollars,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BpTwXEjl,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T21:29:26.545+0000) > > These artificial neurons are connected by synapses which are really just weighted values. What this means is that given a number, a neuron will perform some sort of calculation (for example the sigmoid function), and then the result of this calculation will be multiplied by a weight as it “travels.” The weighted result can sometimes be the output of your neural network, or as I’ll talk about soon, you can have more neurons configured in layers, which is the basic concept to an idea that we call deep learning. > > It's a type of basic AI, it still uses keywords because it has to have a baseline. > > A robot can't learn unless it's fed the basics first. If i put a bunch of metal together and tape it up without any kind of AI and go "hey, learn" to a pile of metal, it will just sit there. Because it's just metal. > > I don't know why i'm explaining this to someone trolling on a league board. The system isn't very good, because i looked through my chat logs, and they aren't that bad. It is not fed keywords. It is fed **entire logs** and finds **patterns**, not keywords.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BpTwXEjl,comment-id=000200000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T22:02:45.764+0000) > > It is not fed keywords. It is fed **entire logs** and finds **patterns**, not keywords. Patterns use keywords. It still has to look for certain patterns, words, and criteria.
rujitra (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=DaddyForDollars,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BpTwXEjl,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T20:25:44.689+0000) > > I researched them... artificial neural networks.................. also use keywords. This is one of the most blatant lies I’ve seen from someone. You did not research them, because they don’t use keywords, period.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BpTwXEjl,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T20:27:19.670+0000) > > This is one of the most blatant lies I’ve seen from someone. You did not research them, because they don’t use keywords, period. These artificial neurons are connected by synapses which are really just weighted values. What this means is that given a number, a neuron will perform some sort of calculation (for example the sigmoid function), and then the result of this calculation will be multiplied by a weight as it “travels.” The weighted result can sometimes be the output of your neural network, or as I’ll talk about soon, you can have more neurons configured in layers, which is the basic concept to an idea that we call deep learning. It's a type of basic AI, it still uses keywords because it has to have a baseline. A robot can't learn unless it's fed the basics first. If i put a bunch of metal together and tape it up without any kind of AI and go "hey, learn" to a pile of metal, it will just sit there. Because it's just metal. I don't know why i'm explaining this to someone trolling on a league board. The system isn't very good, because i looked through my chat logs, and they aren't that bad.
rujitra (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=DaddyForDollars,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BpTwXEjl,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T18:27:21.299+0000) > > I should believe some nerd, that knows nothing about this, and doesn't work for riot. > > No. Yes it does. That's how it works. They don't have the time to individually review MILLIONS of reports every week. And they don't have a tribunal. > > So yes, it really, really does. You act as if there are two options - manual review, or using keywords. I encourage you to research machine learning and artificial neural networks, which is what Riot uses for reports.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BpTwXEjl,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T18:38:33.129+0000) > > You act as if there are two options - manual review, or using keywords. > > I encourage you to research machine learning and artificial neural networks, which is what Riot uses for reports. I researched them... artificial neural networks.................. also use keywords.
rujitra (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=DaddyForDollars,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BpTwXEjl,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-05-07T15:52:37.225+0000) > > Wrong. Yes it does. No, it doesn't. Period.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BpTwXEjl,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T16:39:41.456+0000) > > No, it doesn't. Period. I should believe some nerd, that knows nothing about this, and doesn't work for riot. No. Yes it does. That's how it works. They don't have the time to individually review MILLIONS of reports every week. And they don't have a tribunal. So yes, it really, really does.
rujitra (NA)
: It doesn't use "keywords".
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BpTwXEjl,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-05-06T16:13:59.887+0000) > > It doesn't use "keywords". Wrong. Yes it does.
: Your preaching to self righteous forum users. Their only conclusion is to mute. Because they think that's how the game should be played, always muted.
> [{quoted}](name=TriGun xstaR,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BpTwXEjl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-06T11:35:50.324+0000) > > Your preaching to self righteous forum users. Their only conclusion is to mute. Because they think that's how the game should be played, always muted. Yeah, i shouldn't conversate, just mute and move on. I'm sure this is how they live their lives IRL. Sit at computer, walk around in person shy, and muted. Fail at talking to girls. I just think the system isn't that great and the automation part sucks and is overly aggressive.
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rujitra (NA)
: Wow. Imagine being so privileged, so sheltered, so entitled, that you freaking complain about getting free stuff. #I have a hell of a lot to say more than that but I'll get suspended probably if I do. Just check your entitlement please.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QARMcMfL,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-02-22T00:02:57.887+0000) > > Wow. Imagine being so privileged, so sheltered, so entitled, that you freaking complain about getting free stuff. > > #I have a hell of a lot to say more than that but I'll get suspended probably if I do. Just check your entitlement please. There's literally never anything good in it. The past 20 boxes i've opened are champion shards, that's unfair, and ridiculous, at least from my personal experience. I don't even bother opening them anymore. Literally. That should tell you something.
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QARMcMfL,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-02-22T00:02:57.887+0000) > > Wow. Imagine being so privileged, so sheltered, so entitled, that you freaking complain about getting free stuff. > > #I have a hell of a lot to say more than that but I'll get suspended probably if I do. Just check your entitlement please. Good satire. Used privileged AND entitlement in the same post!
> [{quoted}](name=x No Heart,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QARMcMfL,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-02-22T00:05:25.137+0000) > > Good satire. Used privileged AND entitlement in the same post! There's literally never anything good in it. The past 20 boxes i've opened are champion shards, that's unfair, and ridiculous, at least from my personal experience. I don't even bother opening them anymore. Literally. That should tell you something.
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Prandine (NA)
: Try using the Hextech Repair Tool and see if that works. If it doesn't then you may have no choice but to reinstall the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Prandine,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HG85MGqf,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-20T16:44:14.760+0000) > > Try using the Hextech Repair Tool and see if that works. If it doesn't then you may have no choice but to reinstall the game. It made a log of things but didn't fix anything. Is it supposed to fix anything?
: My game isn't opening.
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Danjeng (NA)
: Phase Rush is especially good against Darius, as it gives you the ability to kite away from him. It also grants you slow immunity in the case that you do get caught, which is very unlikely given how fast you are with Phase Rush. You can get through the game without being hit by Darius once, while you are able to completely dominate the lane through your ranged harass.
> [{quoted}](name=Danjeng,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Uu0z5W60,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-19T22:59:43.301+0000) > > Phase Rush is especially good against Darius, as it gives you the ability to kite away from him. It also grants you slow immunity in the case that you do get caught, which is very unlikely given how fast you are with Phase Rush. You can get through the game without being hit by Darius once, while you are able to completely dominate the lane through your ranged harass. in general what would be good against darius? gnar? i assume phase rush what about hard tanks like shen or malphite?
: Klepto might work in lane at low elo, but I think Phase Rush transitions into late game better. It's a rune that will help you a lot in team fights, since your positioning when your demonflare goes off is pretty key.
> [{quoted}](name=KempyreanPirate,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Uu0z5W60,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-05-19T23:01:34.559+0000) > > Klepto might work in lane at low elo, but I think Phase Rush transitions into late game better. It's a rune that will help you a lot in team fights, since your positioning when your demonflare goes off is pretty key. in general what would be good against darius? gnar? i assume phase rush what about hard tanks like shen or malphite?
: Swain's main weakness is lack of mobility. Phase rush helps with that. It's not the _only_ good keystone on him, but it is widely useful in most matchups. You could consider Aery if you want to just bully a melee really hard.
> [{quoted}](name=Quality Content,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Uu0z5W60,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-05-19T23:02:36.838+0000) > > Swain's main weakness is lack of mobility. Phase rush helps with that. It's not the _only_ good keystone on him, but it is widely useful in most matchups. You could consider Aery if you want to just bully a melee really hard. in general what would be good against darius? gnar? i assume phase rush what about hard tanks like shen or malphite?
: Swain has no mobility. Phase rush lets him stay safe in lane provided he positions well, and it only grows in value further into the game - letting him both run away in a pinch and catch up to enemies when on the offensive. It’s the same reason Darius occasionally uses it. It helps you stick to fleeing targets and makes catching you much harder. As you are silver, klepto should work just fine. If you can utilize it often, its great fun and a huge strenght boost. But remember - every time you barely get caught and killed by anyone, chances are you would have survived with phase rush. Every time someone runs or flashes BARELY out of your range when you were about to kill them, phase rush would have killed them. I think it’s a matter of mastery. Only use phase rush when you are confident in your skill with Swain. Bonus points for using it to dodge spells.
> [{quoted}](name=Frontline Fury,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Uu0z5W60,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-05-19T23:15:26.123+0000) > > Swain has no mobility. Phase rush lets him stay safe in lane provided he positions well, and it only grows in value further into the game - letting him both run away in a pinch and catch up to enemies when on the offensive. > > It’s the same reason Darius occasionally uses it. It helps you stick to fleeing targets and makes catching you much harder. > > As you are silver, klepto should work just fine. If you can utilize it often, its great fun and a huge strenght boost. But remember - every time you barely get caught and killed by anyone, chances are you would have survived with phase rush. Every time someone runs or flashes BARELY out of your range when you were about to kill them, phase rush would have killed them. > > I think it’s a matter of mastery. Only use phase rush when you are confident in your skill with Swain. Bonus points for using it to dodge spells. I look at lolalytics and it says that phase rush is the most COMMONLY USED but aery has the highest winrate overall. Thoughts? I was thinking against people with good slows i should def phase rush.
: Why do pros always go phase rush on swain?
Hey guys! 170 views and no responses yet, i'm gunna have to request some explanations as i've been trying to play him and i'm not that good so i need advice on why what i said is the case and what the exceptions are for swain in different scenarios. Thanks! <3
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: So the MSI game is coming or whatever, but i don't follow esports.MSI capsules?
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: Hello, need help badly! How to bind left click to player move, right to attack move?
Also, there are a couple youtube vids on it, but generally they are for binding attack move, also they don't include all the steps and are outdated. thanks again guys.
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: 2-3 years ago we didnt have hextech crafting
> [{quoted}](name=BlueVestGuy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=wYKeEvZ6,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-10T01:41:49.025+0000) > > 2-3 years ago we didnt have hextech crafting But they gave away seasonal christmas skins and shit back in the day. Hextech hardly ever EVER gives anything good and usually its just bullshit shards. Maybe once a year you'll get a skin you want and like 4 skins a year for someone who plays a LOT is the max you'll get. Not really anything at all. Also, the events might as well not exist. They should just give discounts on RP. The events are always lame and just discounted skins and shit like that.
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: They're not his kids.
> [{quoted}](name=Colonel J,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=MR0a8J7m,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-03-03T10:11:15.771+0000) > > They&#x27;re not his kids. proof? i read that they are. prince jackson?
: > [{quoted}](name=The flex z0ne,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=MR0a8J7m,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-03-03T09:10:28.619+0000) > > are they really his kids tho? > > and uhh.. i thought black genes are generally dominate. generally. A red-haired white dude I went to school with's dad is black.
> [{quoted}](name=BlueVestGuy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=MR0a8J7m,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-03-03T09:23:44.694+0000) > > generally. > A red-haired white dude I went to school with&#x27;s dad is black. So you're saying i could impregnate someone as black as a a black hole and i'm white and my kid could be 100% white.
: The RNG machine called Genetics. I’m still salty that I didn’t get the green eyes common through my father’s side of the family; not even a lighter shade of brown like my father’s.
> [{quoted}](name=JustMonika13,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=MR0a8J7m,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-03-03T09:07:39.577+0000) > > The RNG machine called Genetics. > > I’m still salty that I didn’t get the green eyes common through my father’s side of the family; not even a lighter shade of brown like my father’s. are they really his kids tho? and uhh.. i thought black genes are generally dominate.
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CLG ear (NA)
: where do u work
> [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jPIZWycE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-01-25T17:54:22.182+0000) > > where do u work At a factory, but they are fairly big. It's in florida, we are a right to work state with no unions. So people can fire you cause you look funky. I just don't understand what this HR guy was telling me.
Rosumary (NA)
: Why are you commenting here about your life? Tell someone that cares like your friends.
> [{quoted}](name=Rosumary,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jPIZWycE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-01-25T17:41:32.110+0000) > > Why are you commenting here about your life? Tell someone that cares like your friends. I only have 2 friends you noob.
: > [{quoted}](name=The flex z0ne,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jPIZWycE,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-01-25T17:38:40.916+0000) > > Just recently got a job, got the flu 3 days after. They don&amp;#039;t believe i&amp;#039;m sick. > > > Even though the hiring coordinator said he KNEW something was going around. > > I guess cause people fake things so much? > > So they said i need a doctors note. Well i said this job only pays 10 an hour and i can&amp;#039;t afford to go to the doc, and i have insurance but it&amp;#039;s still 30 with my insurance. Just to say if i have the flu. I asked if they would reimburse me since THEY are the ones requiring this. They said no. > > He said i&amp;#039;m not gunna be fired or anything but written up, he made it seem like even if i got a note i would probably still be written up, but it would &amp;quot;look better&amp;quot; if i had a note. > > What kind of process is this exactly..? Welcome to American Healthcare and Capitalism. Work yourself to death or die starving. In all honestly, if you'd gone into work and threw up they'd have sent you home.
> [{quoted}](name=RookPusher,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jPIZWycE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-01-25T17:43:14.568+0000) > > Welcome to American Healthcare and Capitalism. Work yourself to death or die starving. > > In all honestly, if you&#x27;d gone into work and threw up they&#x27;d have sent you home. I went and was obviously sick not throwing up. The HR guy came out and basically told me i would get a warning and that i could get a note but im still in my 90 days.
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: > [{quoted}](name=The flex z0ne,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6yRoUWUP,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2018-01-20T05:02:54.876+0000) > > What the fuck do you do for work to afford that? Regional Vice President for a Gas station Company. I Have Alabama, Florida and Georgia in my Region.
> [{quoted}](name=Energized Leona,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6yRoUWUP,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2018-01-20T05:06:08.189+0000) > > Regional Vice President for a Gas station Company. I Have Alabama, Florida and Georgia in my Region. How'd you get into that? Do you have like a bachelors in business management or something..?
: > [{quoted}](name=The Oasis,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6yRoUWUP,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-01-20T04:46:01.339+0000) > > Are you going to coat it in fur also to honor your floofy friend? I might
> [{quoted}](name=Energized Leona,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6yRoUWUP,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-01-20T04:46:43.111+0000) > > I might What the fuck do you do for work to afford that?
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