: Sona emote
I'm relatively new to League (preseason 6 was my starting point) but I fell in love with Sona and her playstyle almost immediately, and since then I've acted to obtain every piece of Sona content they release since I love her so much. It's hard to put into words exactly how frustrating it is that Riot would do something so dumb to all of her fans.
Kaanneti (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Daedric Etwahl,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=9EvftdEt,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-12T19:30:35.881+0000) > > Exactly! Doesn&#x27;t matter what champion it is, no one likes content being dangled in their face for their beloved character, only to have it taken away where theyll likely never get it Thank you all for your Support even though you are no Sona Fans I appreciate that really so big <3 from an {{champion:37}} Main {{sticker:sona-playing}}
Oh, I'm a gigantic Sona fan, myself. Even changed my username to be about her awhile back ^^;
TheFortex (EUNE)
: EXCUSE ME? IRON? TEIR????
What the hell are you people getting so worked up over? Grow up
: I think Noxus would win. Demacias army might be better but Noxus outnumber them greatly. We know Noxus and Demacia had some even battles in the past, but those were when Darkwill was fighting wars at every front. Now Swain, Darius and a mysterious third person are in power, and that would make a huge difference. First of all, Swain is the kind of guy to always have a plan. Fighting unwinnable wars is the reason why he threw Darkwill from the throne, Swain wouldn't make the same mistakes. He is a tactician and with his demons power he is able to evaluate the war in a way nobody else can. Second, Noxus now has the Trifarian Legion, although we don't know how big it is, they should be better trained than common Demacian soldiers. And lastly, Noxus has no scruple. Chemical weapons, magic (while less effective is still a potent weapon that can kill hundreds at a time), and sending soldiers to their death only to have new ones follow them are all thing Noxus is willing to do. Demacia would maybe win more battles, but they just don't have enough manpower to win the war.
I think keeping Galio's existence and very possible activation in the event of a full-on war is very important, too.
Akaash (NA)
: Reminder that Riot tried to make us refer to ADCs as marksmen. Treat iron tier the same way.
I don't get it. What's wrong with calling it iron? Why get so worked up?
: Sona emote
Seriously. Hopefully Riot never does this type of stuff with champion-centered content again
: you know they'll release it into the shop at some point.. the way they do all legacy content
Wish I could say I believe you. But they've said they have no plans to do so. So unless they changed their mind, which seems highly unlikely, they wont release it for purchase. Plus they dont say anything else on the matter since which is just as infuriating
: Angry Sona mains incoming claiming Sona has a high skill floor and is extremely intensive to play with really high decision making
Lol nah man I just think she's fun~ Tbh though some of the augments combinations in Odyssey gave some more decision-making and combo strings and it felt really neat!
4801501010 (EUNE)
: I wish Riot would make more chromas for base skins
Man, I would adore some nice, bright color chromas for Classic Sona
: It just annoys me that they made no other ways to get it, I would be fine it the emote was animated or different in some way, but locking the entire emote away was a stupid idea. Its even more annoying that the content creators are fine with it (which I have no problems with). So the issue has no traction and we're left to deal with it. Whats worse is I love the program, but this is not what the program is about. It creates this follow, like, retweet, and they don't learn what that persons content is, they just stay for the emote.
Exactly. My twitter feed is now filled with people I otherwise do not care about
: > [{quoted}](name=haaaaaaalp,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Q5MtWomu,comment-id=0008000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-15T23:13:08.600+0000) > > He makes the unhealthiest champions who are constantly the most banned champions. People are forced to pick or ban his champions because they do too much compared to other champions. Zoe has caused far more problems than ivern ever will. 1) You keep making this claim about unhealthy champions and never say a damn lick to back it up. 2) Ivern's literally a waste of data. Anything's better. No one likes him.
> 1) You keep making this claim about unhealthy champions and never say a damn lick to back it up. Idk but the fact that she's been out not even a year and has been through the wringer forward and back says something. They removed several things from her W drops and didnt they even recently remove the E trap? Or did that not make it past PBE? Regardless, the fact that she's basically a patch notes staple despite being out for only 10 months says something. Sure, Ivern might not be popular, but he hasn't been a source of constant contention and balance issues
BlankMind (OCE)
: Nope only chromas, they can’t even buy his icon too.
: You wanna keep running that mouth of yours? You are required to play the game at a decently good level with a handicap in order to unlock Ziggs's Skin. You wanna craft it like anyone else's? Too bad. Play the game and grind it out. You wanna BUY it? Pfft haha no. Suck a fat one and have some Chromas instead. Tell me at what point do Sona fans (or emote collectors or whatever) want anything to do with being treated special when they just want to able to get it the same way others can get the other ones? We pay for the emote at exactly the same cost as the others. How in the hell is that "special treatment"?
Wait, can Ziggs fans not buy his new skin in the store?!
: With giveaway emotes, maybe an animated alternative would be better for codes
It absolutely would have been better, that way we Sona fans could actually have our content like everyone else got to
Zedex (NA)
: Real Talk : If you wanted the skin that badly "Sona Mains" you'd get it. The time used to post over and over on the boards that its "Not fair / QQ riot hates sona players"(Shes a faceroll nightmare who hasn't gotten that play pattern removed, they deff don't hate you guys) could be time used trying to snag a code for the skin.
> [{quoted}](name=Zedex,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sI1OY8dG,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-09-14T19:22:21.322+0000) > > Real Talk : > > If you wanted the skin that badly &quot;Sona Mains&quot; you&#x27;d get it. > > The time used to post over and over on the boards that its &quot;Not fair / QQ riot hates sona players&quot;(Shes a faceroll nightmare who hasn&#x27;t gotten that play pattern removed, they deff don&#x27;t hate you guys) could be time used trying to snag a code for the skin. I've been taking every chance I can. And yet I'm far from having any good chance at getting the emote. I dont have time to camp the pages of every content creator that I otherwise dont give a shot about. I have work, sleep, a social life. I honestly just want to be able to pay and have my emote, the same as Yasuo, Jimx, and Malphite fans. I dont know why Riot and other people dont seem able to understand this simple concept
: > [{quoted}](name=CPU Lyrica,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WsfAb5oa,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-09-14T02:43:58.453+0000) > > Honestly i&#x27;ve abandoned Sona as a Main. I still love her, but Riot hates her. Between beating her with the nerf bat, lack of skins and now THIS, she&#x27;s effectively unplayable. (She also pops like a baloon if the enemy adc even gets close to her). > > I&#x27;ve picked up lux. she&#x27;s alot more of a stable champion in this meta, and you dont need to be ahead to place down good cc. Depressing... I don't want to give up on her.
> [{quoted}](name=BetterInTheDark,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WsfAb5oa,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-09-14T05:47:41.818+0000) > > Depressing... I don&#x27;t want to give up on her. Then don't. The only way I myself am giving up on Sona is if Riot pushes me to give up on League as a whole. Really the only reason I haven't played in a long time aside from some Extraction is because my computer is pretty garbage these days. The Sona community has been absolute doom and gloom since preseason and while it was understandable then, right now it makes zero sense. Honestly, besides this whole shitshow over the emote, times are good for Sona at the moment.
: I am very upset about the whole Sona emote being locked away from me forever, Riot, and here's why
Agree with everything you've said here. I actually feel devastated that Riot would do something scummy like this for zero good reason. They're literally saying no to free money. The amount of Sona players desperate for the emote I see is just heartbreaking.
: The biggest problem with the Sona emote away being locked away in such a low quantity.
It's absolutely devastating as a Sona fan that Riot would do this to us. The entire Sona community is desperate for the emote and it's heartbreaking.
: One Word: Money
If they wanted money then they would have let us buy it. So many people are begging Riot to take their money for it. So how does it make them money {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
Rioter Comments
Nylisa (EUW)
: This is whats wrong with this act. i've never even heard a mention of this person before! i don't recall anyone with that name anywhere! who are these guys!
And what makes it even worse: if this Huzzy is in EUW, then he's useless to me. If he's NA, he's useless to you. If he's neither, his codes are worthless to both of us
: Then Sona fans should get special treatment, obviously I know you think the best way is to make a general exclusive emote. Then you end up with someone liking the exclusive general emote and not wanting it exclusive, what you're basically against is making stuff exclusive and all i have to say is, tough luck and tbh I wanted it myself but oh well. Exclusive stuff has been in gaming since ages and whether it be for a specific character or a general one, someone will end up wanting it and wishing it wasn't exclusive, that's what makes it exclusive that you got something others want.
> Then Sona fans should get special treatment Literally the opposite of what we're asking for. All we want is to be able to go into the shop and buy our emote just like Yasuo, Malphite, and Jinx fans got to. Riot should have made an emote or content that had something to do with the program. But no, they took a champion-representing emote and locked it away behind complete chance. Complete bullshit move from them.
: which emote?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dm1MeTXWsAEjx1m.png
DomoRobo (NA)
: Wow I didn't even know about this until now. Sounds like a pretty stupid move, and I'm sure no one really knows who is giving away codes. {{sticker:sg-soraka}}
Exactly. I cant sit around and camp a content creator's page all day long. I have work, sleep, and a social life. By the time I find out who has codes, theyll ne long gone.
SatomiKun (EUW)
: Just saying, as a total Jinx lover, if they had locked away Jinx to content creators only I would have had a royal tantrum here in the boards.
Exactly! Doesn't matter what champion it is, no one likes content being dangled in their face for their beloved character, only to have it taken away where theyll likely never get it
: You don't happen to know which content creators do you?
No. Nobody does, really. Unless you already follow them. But then you have to be watching the right person at the right time and be lucky enough to actually get a code, and that's not even getting into creators who will make it subs only
: Why not lock away Jinx's... she already has FOUR emotes -,-
Only if you count the normal Jinx. Including Odyssey and her Christmas skin, it's actually 6. Still, the proper way to do this would be something more specific to the program itself.
SatomiKun (EUW)
: My guess for the thought process: So, we want to take an emote of an actually popular champion, so people appreciate it. That would already exclude Malphite from the possible list, leaving us with: {{champion:222}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:37}} Then again, they don't want to give away the **most** popular option of these 3, since they want to make money with the others. GG EZ, lock away Sona!
Still a shitty move of Riot for them to do it. They should have made a special emote for this if they wanted to do thisprogram, not screw over an entire champion's fanbase.
: Her game play got updated like 2-3 years ago, it's in a pretty good place. Her model - JUST THE MODEL - got updated in 2014, but it was rebuilt around her horrendous rigging and animation packages, which did absolutely nothing to make it seem new or modernized. She needs a pretty full VU to bring her model, visuals, and animations up to modern times.
Especially if they use that design they used in the Ryze cinematic. Absolutely gorgeous! <3
Rioter Comments
: Which content creators? I must know!! I need this emote. As a support main it's perfect for when you have to watch the crazy stuff some ADCs do.
I don't know. I dont know how any of this works, and I dont watch any content creators, so this sucks an extra whole lot. Limited content like this sucks
: Why do ppl hate support?
Some people just don't find a supporting role fun, same as how people don't think some champs are fun. It really is just preference I myself am a Sona OTP. Probably one of the most boring champs according to the playerbase, but I think she's *so* much fun! And I dont even build her AP! Granted some people get way to upset when they're given support...
Rioter Comments
: I agree Riot has (and for a long time has) a problem of not giving skins even remotely equally, but tbh jinx doesn't have that many skins. But, since I would like to agree with you, ziggs does and sona has an ultimate skin and I regularly see all of yasuo's skins being used, so he isn't lacking a good skin or something. I'd like it if they gave more recent champions skins, prime example being illaoi and aurelion sol before resistance and mechanical. I don't remember exactly how many but it was something like 2 years after illaoi's release that she got her first skin(exclusing her on-release skin)
> [{quoted}](name=DaBossNoob,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7X5Z9F5k,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-09-11T14:32:12.092+0000) > > I agree Riot has (and for a long time has) a problem of not giving skins even remotely equally, but tbh jinx doesn&#x27;t have that many skins. But, since I would like to agree with you, ziggs does and sona has an ultimate skin and I regularly see all of yasuo&#x27;s skins being used, so he isn&#x27;t lacking a good skin or something. I&#x27;d like it if they gave more recent champions skins, prime example being illaoi and aurelion sol before resistance and mechanical. I don&#x27;t remember exactly how many but it was something like 2 years after illaoi&#x27;s release that she got her first skin(exclusing her on-release skin) Sona's last skin was Sweetheart, back in Feb 2016, over 2 and a half years ago. I'd say she was long due for a skin. Having an Ultimate skin is not and should not be a flag that says you don't deserve any more skins
: HEAR ME OUT (regarding odyssey skins)
According to their Voiceover, Rhaast tells Kayn they need her alive to "open the gate" Both of them call her "the templar" Otherwise Kayn doesn't really say anything to or about her.
: Odyssey proves Riot doesn't need PBE anymore.
I think it's too early to say that. We'll have to see if any egregious bugs made it through. Something small and simple like Beemo is one thing. Something like this is on another scale entirely
DomoRobo (NA)
: My opinion on the Odyssey Sona skin
Honestly the skin has been growing on me... but yeah, the way too bulky top, combined with the stiff bottom half just... damn it sucks.
: Fam, its fucking dope. Yass is just like reg yass in orange. Kayn just doesn't even fit that theme.
> [{quoted}](name=destroyer22719,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sdiAgdWt,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-09-11T00:06:11.681+0000) > > Fam, its fucking dope. Yass is just like reg yass in orange. Kayn just doesn&#x27;t even fit that theme. As a Sona OTP I'm honestly heavily disappointed in Sona's skin. The particles look great but the model is absolutely awful, imo. Way too much visual noise and clutter with that bulky stuff around her head, her lower body looks more like a mermaid tail than it does a dress hugging her legs, and her color scheme is ugly, nothing like what the colors in the cinematic showed.
Verxint (NA)
: That all makes sense. But why Sona? (besides that they know it'll sell, which I'll admit is a reason on its own). Like I said if they wanted a girl who was out of place and from some special status, there are a lot of other options that would add something to the character dynamics.
Honestly? She was probably just the one chosen. Maybe Nami, Karma, etc have other skins in the near future. If it was Karma instead, you could ask the same about her: why would she ever join them? Why Karma? Why not Sona? Hinestly, I'm not a fan of the skin itself but not because of the story (besides Kayn possibly trying to kill her xD Not so much a fan of that)
Verxint (NA)
: It still doesn't make sense to me why she would actually join them. What does she do there? How does she help the crew? Also, being a Priestess or Princess or whatever doesn't mean you have to be completely devoid of character like Sona is. Why not Karma, Taliyah, or maybe Syndra if they wanted someone who was out of place for the purpose of being out of place? I just don't like the contrast between the charged, dynamic interplay of the various crew members and Sona sitting there with no real character. Maybe it'll be different when we learn more, but I'm skeptical.
> It doesn't really make sense why she would join them. Look at it this way... Jinx and co cause a real ruckus down on some planet, and they gotta leave. Pronto. As they race back to their ship, Jinx yells to Malphite to "grab the guys and let's go!" In his hurry to pick up his allies, he accidentally grabs one of the residents of the planet as well: Sona. They all pile onto their ship and take off, heading back off into space. But then they realize they accidentally kidnapped this lady. Instead of taking her back they try to convince her to join them. Now even if she doesn't join them... what exactly is she gonna do? Tell them to pull over and let her out? Drive herself home? She doesn't really have much options here, does she? And who knows, maybe once she gets past the "what is going on here?" Phase she might find them and their antics charming and a nice change of pace from her usual life. At some point in the future when Kayn finds her to bring her home (if that is his goal) he might say "Sona, finally, come home, get away from these lunatics!" Could she talk she might respond with "These people are my friends, I enjoy being with them."
Verxint (NA)
: Sona doesn't make any sense as a member of the crew
You have to think of it from the perspective of the storyline of the skinline. This band of silly spacegoers travel across the cosmos in search of adventure. One day, through some unknown series of events, they end up with some planet's princess (?) on their ship as they set off into space once more (possibly in a hurry. Who knows what kinda trouble they cause when on land) Instead of bringing her back, they decide "Hey! Join us! Itll be fun!" while she clearly has no clue what to think of all this. Meanwhile someone (Kayn) is trying to get her back.
: Kled skin ideas - riot please! he needs some more
High Seas Kled - Skaarl is some bipedal shark creature and Kled is some Davy Jones-lookin mofo waving a harpoon around
Thilmer (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Daedric Etwahl,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=MxHHp4AL,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2018-09-09T17:09:40.576+0000) > > Sona be waiting on a lore update pretty bad, too Yeah, she is still in the Academy of War. Totally outdated lore.
Technically when they retconned all of that, they kept Sona's lore the same, minus all mention of the League and Institute. The issue is they've done absolutely nothing for her for like, 7 or 8 years
: Same. Give Viktor a lore-update or some sh** but stop with Jinx.
Sona be waiting on a lore update pretty bad, too
: > [{quoted}](name=LBmyBB,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=cFmEiByw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-09-08T20:34:26.110+0000) > > is this old or new lore It is Sona's short story found on her champion page. I'm not sure whether it's old or new, they seem pretty much the same.
This is her old lore. Hasn't changed in a long time, sadly
: Which In Lore Relationship Do You Want Explored?
Personally, Sona and Lux. There's potential here for quite a bit, and I really want to see something with the two
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: Can we fucking gut triforce already?
Hell yeah let's nerf {{champion:83}} even more! /s
: Can the mods work faster on deleting transphobic comments and threads?
Honestly I'm more annoyed because these types of jokes have just gotten stale because it's the thousandth time I'm hearing them, lol, and I say that as a trans person.
Meibisu (EUNE)
: Only thing i would want with her is a lore change i would love to know why she cant make any sound at all. And her Q i hate that i can steal my adc farm with it. :/
Tbh I get more farm accidentally stealing CS with Sona Q than I do when actually playing a farm role. I'm pretty bad
: Sona
To be honest... there are 3 things I want to keep in a Sona VGU: 1. The ability to support ALL my allies in multiple ways (and not just "throw my spells on my ADC" like Lulu or Janna) Whatever way Sona has to go about this doesn't matter, whether it involves some complex stuff, but I want my whole team to feel like I'm supporting them, and not just my ADC. 2. Be one of the few supports that most excels in the lategame (I know that this is a point of tension for some but I dont really get why. I really like being able to hardcore scale while most other supports are focused on earlygame) 3. Any enemies I stun dance. This is incredibly important.
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