Kimimi (EUNE)
: Who do you think are getting this year's Star Guardian skins?
Idk about the rest of the squad but I seriously want nothing more than Star Guardian {{champion:37}} If Sona is one of the members I literally don't care who the other 4 are and will welcome anyone as part of the skinline lol
: Who Cares What Developers Do Anymore
You seem to forget that, in PROJECT's case at least, the skinline is limited to human champions, and seemingly not mages either, as the skinline is limited to Marksmen, Slayers, Divers, and one Vamguard. If Mages are part of the Project universe, then their place is in the Program skinline. Non-human champions pretty much don't partake in PROJECT at all
: Project Warwick is becoming a thing? If Riot is to create a skin worthy of being an ultimate skin I'd say it's objectively a Project Kayn skin that would be worth based of his thematic and the fact he has 3 skin variations in one champion. Making Project Kayn an Epic skin would be a waste of so much potential.
> [{quoted}](name=Eximimious,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wMVkV3px,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2019-07-14T17:13:00.843+0000) > > Project Warwick is becoming a thing? If Riot is to create a skin worthy of being an ultimate skin I'd say it's objectively a Project Kayn skin that would be worth based of his thematic and the fact he has 3 skin variations in one champion. Making Project Kayn an Epic skin would be a waste of so much potential. By that logic literally no skin for Kayn should be anything but Legendary/Ultimate tier because he's 3 models and VOs in one.
: To this day I still don't get why we couldn't have Solar Eclipse Leona and Lunar Eclipse Diana
To be honest I think if they gave Diana matching Lunar and Solar Eclipse skins, it would be a good thematic, since both types of eclipses have to do with both celestial bodies.
: Characters who needed this voice update more
If this *was* done because the VA was Vic... I really don't understand why it's relevant. Lee Sin's VO was done *years* ago, and Vic isn't kept on-call, Riot basically never has VAs around. It would be like if Erin Fitzgerald faced such allegations and Riot did new VOs for {{champion:40}} {{champion:37}} despite their voiceovers being done almost a decade ago. It's not a relevant part of any issue going on. It would make sense for companies he's currently working with to drop him (Ex: RT with RWBY) but I don't really see what the need to urgently update such an old piece of work is. It seems irrelevant, since Vic isn't working with Riot as far as we know
: Missing bios and color stories v2
Poor Sona... it's crazy to me how Riot has been hardcore avoiding giving her any lore with the Demacia updates, eapecially the Sylas one. It almost feels intentional at this point, like a cruel joke
: REMINDER THAT LORD MORDEKAISER IS AN UNFINISHED SKIN
Honestly just about all of Morde's skins are unfinished in some extent: Pentakill and Infernal, while having their own spell effect colors, still use the green spirit fog of classic Morde. It clashes bad. That's on top of the recall animation being broken and horrible-looking no matter the skin. Such a fucking shame
: Who actually has the most skins.
Just a note, you have Camille listed twice, under 3 and 5. Probably meant to put Cassi in 5 instead of Camille again
RougeKat (EUW)
: About Sona's lore...
Sona needs an update *very* badly at this point. She's one of a tiny handful of champions that hasn't received any new lore. In fact compared to her lore upon her release in 2011, she's *only lost* lore, despite Riot having perfect opportunities to update her lore with the two Demacia updates, especially the Sylas one But nah, instead "We don't have much lore this patch, we only have stuff for Galaxy Slayer Zed" because that's the true priority
Anatera (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Daedric Etwahl,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vZKa2eKe,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-06-29T06:06:23.922+0000) > > I think that's a bit much. You're basically saying "anyone that likes this thing is an idiot and a no-skilled loser" > > I kinda like TFT. Definitely rough around some edges and I agree there's a bit too much RNG (# of items you get needs to be consistent, I dont mind if those items are random, but the amount needs to be the same as everyone else imo) > > Honestly having a ranked ladder for this just sounds like a bad idea from the get go No? There are other elements in TFT that can mitigate the effects of RNG. It's a question of how much it effects the outcome of the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Anatera,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vZKa2eKe,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-06-29T06:18:52.164+0000) > > No? There are other elements in TFT that can mitigate the effects of RNG. It's a question of how much it effects the outcome of the game. Yeah, most of the game is RNG but honestly I wouldn't mind at all if they kept some of it, but probably one of the *worst* feelings is when the PvP rounds start and someone already has 2 full items while you got real unlucky and only have the component from the champ carousel, so I think the RNG on # of items should be one of the first to be reigned in
: Especially considering the fact that building Last Whisper first isn't viable on a huge number of champions. Either you can't kill Mundo for 90% of the game or you can kill him but you have to shoot yourself in the foot to do it. That makes him EFFECTIVELY tanky, so long as you don't have grevious wounds, and even if you do it's not like he doesn't do damage, plus he still has enough health that it's very possible that he'll still kill you before you kill him. Cho, on the other hand, can hit the realm of 20k health, so unless you're Fiora, Kindred, or Brand, or Liandry Rylai Karthus, you aren't killing this guy. He can build armor/Mr, and still has enough health that he's rather hard to kill, plus his ult can potentially one-shot your adc, who's probably the only one with the tools needed to kill him.
> [{quoted}](name=Secretly a Phos,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yLWg3Ewk,comment-id=000b0001,timestamp=2019-06-29T02:46:16.439+0000) > > Especially considering the fact that building Last Whisper first isn't viable on a huge number of champions. Either you can't kill Mundo for 90% of the game or you can kill him but you have to shoot yourself in the foot to do it. That makes him EFFECTIVELY tanky, so long as you don't have grevious wounds, and even if you do it's not like he doesn't do damage, plus he still has enough health that it's very possible that he'll still kill you before you kill him. > Cho, on the other hand, can hit the realm of 20k health, so unless you're Fiora, Kindred, or Brand, or Liandry Rylai Karthus, you aren't killing this guy. He can build armor/Mr, and still has enough health that he's rather hard to kill, plus his ult can potentially one-shot your adc, who's probably the only one with the tools needed to kill him. Exactly: Sure, Mundo has his healing cut by GW but it's not like he pops after that: he still builds tank stats so he's got resists and a lot of HP, same with Cho'Gath but Cho gets even more health and GW doesn't do much to him, so even though they don't meet *League's* criteria for Tanks, they certainly meet the "takes a goddamn eternity to kill" criteria that Tanks need in pretty much every game which is why people make the mistake.
Anatera (NA)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Anatera,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vZKa2eKe,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-29T05:37:54.413+0000) > >..Removed by Moderation.. I think that's a bit much. You're basically saying "anyone that likes this thing is an idiot and a no-skilled loser" I kinda like TFT. Definitely rough around some edges and I agree there's a bit too much RNG (# of items you get needs to be consistent, I dont mind if those items are random, but the amount needs to be the same as everyone else imo) Honestly having a ranked ladder for this just sounds like a bad idea from the get go
Yets4240 (NA)
: Mundo only has HP regen as his bulk. Get a GW on him and he loses 40% of all of his defenses instantly, and he has to nuke a whole fifth of his health bar just to turn that on. Your comment isn't worth the time it would take to do the math, but simply put, {{champion:111}} {{champion:98}} {{champion:14}} will always be harder to kill than {{champion:82}} {{champion:36}}{{champion:83}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:102}} {{champion:48}} {{champion:420}} ceteris paribus
> [{quoted}](name=Yets4240,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yLWg3Ewk,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2019-06-28T23:26:11.805+0000) > > Mundo only has HP regen as his bulk. Get a GW on him and he loses 40% of all of his defenses instantly, and he has to nuke a whole fifth of his health bar just to turn that on. > > Your comment isn't worth the time it would take to do the math, but simply put, {{champion:111}} {{champion:98}} {{champion:14}} will always be harder to kill than {{champion:82}} {{champion:36}}{{champion:83}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:102}} {{champion:48}} {{champion:420}} ceteris paribus See this type of comment with its condescending attitude is *exactly* what I was talking about. I *know* that Mundo is a Juggernaut, not a tank, and that GW guts his bulkiness, I was referring to the type of player that calls Mundo a tank because they don't know what makes a champion a Tank in League.
: PSA: Please remember Juggernauts =/= Tanks
Let's be honest though, it is pretty silly to get actually *mad* at people when they call champs like {{champion:31}} {{champion:36}} tanks. Because to the average casual player, an enemy Mundo/Cho'Gath that never, ever, ever fuckin dies certainly does feel like a gigantic tank, so it's perfectly understandable why they get mistaken for them so much. Like, if you aren't a Vanguard or Warden, you aren't a Tank by League's terms, so these two technically aren't tabks despite usually being by far the tankiest members of their team.
: I'm not touching this mode with a 50ft pole.
> 90 minute queue times This has pretty much been solved, and issues like this can be expected from a beta test. Calm yourself. > Horribly unbalanced RNG based item distrabution Again, to be exoected from a beta test. Will more than likely be resolved as they continue working on it. > Little legends is a gambling heavy loot box nightmare Little Legends are cosmetics and you dont need to buy any to play TFT. Besides i love my little Water Sprite and probably wont buy any of the lootboxes anyway Seriously what is this post
Mythrandill (EUNE)
: In the mean time on EUNE we got 1 second queue time. Thank you NA for your being a betatest region
> [{quoted}](name=Koyomi Onii chan,realm=EUNE,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=nUz7ElAV,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-27T18:53:11.843+0000) > > In the mean time on EUNE we got 1 second queue time. Thank you NA for your being a betatest region Im here in NA and my queue pops have been instant as well
: Hahahahahaha Sona has been finally nerfed
She wasn't nerfed because of ARAM balance though? It'd be pretty silly for champs to get nerfed in SR because they're strong in ARAM. That being said she still needed nerfs, she's been very good for a long time now
: Rossboomsocks teemo support mid.
All of these troll-setup videos are done on his stream with viewers as part of his premade team. They all know fully well what they are getting into and are fully okay with it when they decide to play with him. Also this isn't ranked. Educate yourself.
: Name them. I said in my post: No items have been changed. No Runes have been changed. The only things that I can think of are literally 1) Karma's rise back into play and 2) The Sona/Taric duo strategy
> [{quoted}](name=Illabethe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E22f4N6h,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-20T16:25:32.446+0000) > > Name them. > I said in my post: No items have been changed. No Runes have been changed. > > The only things that I can think of are literally 1) Karma's rise back into play and 2) The Sona/Taric duo strategy It's honestly difficult to name every little thing but it's a phenomenon that seems to consistently happen with Sona: She gets a nerf, and then over the course of many months despite no buffs to her or her primary things, she slowly sneaks her way back to 53-54% and needs to be nerfed again, this isn't the first time it's happened, and it wasn't Sona+Taric that caused this (although it's certainly the main reason everyone's eyes are on her now; she tends to slip under people's radars unless she's bonkers overpowered) Honestly a lot of the time it seems to be the things around her getting nerfed while she slips by not bothered by the nerfs. She also historically does well into the other enchanters, so whwn they're around, Sona does very well. The only sort of meta Sona really doesn't like is one where Alistar is ruling the lane, she hates him. It's very difficult to name what caused Sona to rise, because it isn't just one thing, like Karma rising, or Taric+Sona. It's many changes to other things that happens over a longer period of time. Like I said this isn't the first time something like this has happened with Sona
Manxxom (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=OccuIt,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sKAUg0Vw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-19T05:57:53.950+0000) > > What do you think theyll take off? The magic pen or bonus damage on Q? Most likely the magic pen since that is just out of the blue and doesn't seem to really add anything to his kit as a combo besides just being magic penetration... besides you can build a void staff or morel anyway. HOWEVER they hopefully do not remove the bonus damage on q because it corresponds to his ult so well and actually can fit within combos, and makes him show more of a 1v1 boss.
> [{quoted}](name=Lord Apex,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sKAUg0Vw,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-19T06:15:28.715+0000) > > Most likely the magic pen since that is just out of the blue and doesn't seem to really add anything to his kit as a combo besides just being magic penetration... besides you can build a void staff or morel anyway. > HOWEVER they hopefully do not remove the bonus damage on q because it corresponds to his ult so well and actually can fit within combos, and makes him show more of a 1v1 boss. If it came to removing Q isolation damage or E mpen, Im advocating for MPen removal, as the isolation damage also acts as a form of skill expression when out of his ult, as opposed to "here just have some stats"
: Not nerfing the support item interaction before hitting Sona
AP Sona is still very strong even outside of the support items interaction. The nerf is deserved and, frankly, isn't even that bad. The heal and the size and frequency of her AoE shield is completely untouched, which is probably her greatest strength. I absolutely hate that every time she gets deservedly nerfed Sona mains come out in droves to bitch, it's embarrassing
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: I don't understand why enchanters are allowed to have no counterplay
> Sona > No counterplay Oh, you poor, poor child...
: > [{quoted}](name=Daedric Etwahl,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zQrN2E4j,comment-id=00130000,timestamp=2019-06-15T13:11:45.921+0000) > > Honestly if both laners are helpless to do anything vs Sona then they either got counterpicked/counterpicked themselves or they don't know how to play vs Sona. > > When she walks up to poke that's when you fight back, don't let her get the poke for free, because once she hits you with Q-Staccato she has literally no more damage, that's when you want to hit her, she can barely defend herself at that point. > > Just pick {{champion:119}} {{champion:111}} or any aggressive lane into her and watch how much harder it gets for Sona. > > Also, as it is, poke is all Sona has for lane phase, it's what keeps her interactive because if she wants real damage she has to Power Chord. If you take away her ability to poke then she has nothing. Yes, thank you for the tip and I agree 100%, you should be able to punish Sona for it - But yeah if you're counterpicked or your picks don't support it, like say our lane is like this: {{champion:40}} + {{champion:51}} and their lane is like: {{champion:37}} + {{champion:119}} Then you're not going to really be able to do anything about it, barring jungle ganks or large misplays. Anyway I know drafting is important and maybe I'm salty from so much Sona lately, but I feel she forces the issue with the draft a lot more than usual for botlane. (Aside support Vel'Koz and Zyra, but I rarely see them lately... :3)
> [{quoted}](name=Wild Geese,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zQrN2E4j,comment-id=001300000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T13:24:02.164+0000) > > Yes, thank you for the tip and I agree 100%, you should be able to punish Sona for it - But yeah if you're counterpicked or your picks don't support it, like say our lane is like this: > > {{champion:40}} + {{champion:51}} > and their lane is like: > {{champion:37}} + {{champion:119}} > > Then you're not going to really be able to do anything about it, barring jungle ganks or large misplays. Anyway I know drafting is important and maybe I'm salty from so much Sona lately, but I feel she forces the issue with the draft a lot more than usual for botlane. (Aside support Vel'Koz and Zyra, but I rarely see them lately... :3) Well, even in that lane there's still some wiggle room for Cait+Janna. Both of them have the range to return some poke on Sona, and can help harass Draven together, as Sona can't do a whole lot to sustain her botlaner. Plus Janna can deter Draven from snowballing with her strong disengage. Still, it is playing on the backfoot, especially since Sona historically does well into other Enchantresses, but there are ways around her.
: Her power chords are ridiculous. The Q does half the health of an adc by level 3 or so, and there's little you can do about it if your lane can't punish her. When she gets high AP in the lategame people don't appreciate how much work she's doing, there's just a lot going on... She needs to be focused because yeah she turns into the carry but it isn't as in your face as other carries. I kind dig that unique nature though. IDK what I'd do with her, she's fine but the amount early game damage does feel a bit out of place.
> Her power chords are ridiculous. The Q does half the health of an adc by level 3 or so, and there's little you can do about it if your lane can't punish her. > > IDK what I'd do with her, she's fine but the amount early game damage does feel a bit out of place. Honestly if both laners are helpless to do anything vs Sona then they either got counterpicked/counterpicked themselves or they don't know how to play vs Sona. When she walks up to poke that's when you fight back, don't let her get the poke for free, because once she hits you with Q-Staccato she has literally no more damage, that's when you want to hit her, she can barely defend herself at that point. Just pick {{champion:119}} {{champion:111}} or any aggressive lane into her and watch how much harder it gets for Sona. Also, as it is, poke is all Sona has for lane phase, it's what keeps her interactive because if she wants real damage she has to Power Chord. If you take away her ability to poke then she has nothing.
: Are there any Poppy Summoner Icons?
I don't know if it will be out this year... but I know there's the really adorable Snow Fawn Poppy Christmas cookie icon. If it's available every year then that's a really cute one
: "What are you guys' thoughts on Sona's current state as a whole?"
I do think that, while Sona's current states are pretty lopsided, I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with one support out of like 30 playing more for the later game rather than the early. Still, lately her game has become super lopsided more than usual. I wouldn't mind at all if Riot took some of her lategame power and injected it to her early, while still leaving her lategame power higher, if that makes sense.
Meddler (NA)
: Oh, yeah, that's a good one. I don't want to just share my personal opinion, lemme talk with a few folks and get something into a post next week.
> [{quoted}](name=Meddler,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=PBPEGOHv,comment-id=001b0000,timestamp=2019-06-14T15:44:10.468+0000) > > Oh, yeah, that's a good one. I don't want to just share my personal opinion, lemme talk with a few folks and get something into a post next week. Thanks!
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: June 14
Been curious for a while, actually surprised it hasn't been mentioned, but what are you guys' thoughts on Sona+Taric/Other Relic support botlane, and/or on Sona's current state as a whole?
l MrD l (NA)
: Because for a champion who deals high damage poke and sustains very well through W this makes her very good at trading especially short burst trades with Q auto then W to heal however shes squishy because going all in on her would be the defining weakness otherwise shes be too strong
> [{quoted}](name=l MrD l,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KdJN9tb5,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-14T13:32:49.021+0000) > > Because for a champion who deals high damage poke and sustains very well through W this makes her very good at trading especially short burst trades with Q auto then W to heal however shes squishy because going all in on her would be the defining weakness otherwise shes be too strong Sona's way too mana-hungry to use her W willy-nilly. Until she's able to bolster her mana pool with a partially stacked Tear she doesn't really provide much sustain. It should really be thought of as a shield more than a heal early on
FkValeRly (EUW)
: not really aatrox or urgot but yes
> [{quoted}](name=FkValeRly,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4to8oERv,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-12T19:27:28.786+0000) > > not really aatrox or urgot but yes Aatrox's Qs are heavily telegraphed. If you have proper mobility you should be able to properly dodge his blows. Urgot is heavily susceptible to mobility, if you can't land his (quite telegraphed) dash then there's usually very little you can actually do to a mobile champ, and even then if it's someone like Zed or LB they can blink away
: Mordekaiser feels almost the same to me
I mean... a slow, relatively immobile bruiser that absolutely mauls squishies that can't get away, but has serious trouble catching highly mobile folks... Isn't that describing most of the juggernaut class as a whole? {{champion:266}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:36}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:83}}
99Palms (NA)
: ZED IS CONSTANTLY PERMABANNED FOR NO REASON - IM TIRED OF THESE NAIVE CHILDREN WITH 0 LOGIC.
Whether he's OP or not, Zed's annoying, and he's picked commonly enough that you see him frequently enough that he ends up annoying in many of your games
: Let's all do a HOTNESS TIER LIST
http://imgur.com/gallery/Oadbm3S More of a waifu tier list but eh, whatever, I have trouble differentiating physical attractiveness from personality sometimes. Still, Sona's my favorite, and always will be
: [Ever get that feeling of deja vu? Ever-ever-ev-ev-ever get that fee-fee-fee-feeling of deja vu?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUporG4kZkE) When you erase your game's namesake, years of world building, and many different stories and characters just to arrive at the same point. {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
> [{quoted}](name=Glaricion,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=PQsHNJ06,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-08T23:04:48.609+0000) > > [Ever get that feeling of deja vu? Ever-ever-ev-ev-ever get that fee-fee-fee-feeling of deja vu?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUporG4kZkE) > > > When you erase your game's namesake, years of world building, and many different stories and characters just to arrive at the same point. > > {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} To be fair, if you don't look at it through the nostalgia filter, the old League lore sucked major ass, too
YaraUwU (NA)
: Just a quick thought for anyone that thinks Qiyana is the dullest champion to date. Kai'sa exists.
I think people are missing half the point why Kai'Sa's design just doesn't match her backstory. Like, sure, she was in the Void Caverns, she wears the voidborn as a symbiotic second skin for protection. Maybe she just is that strong willed. All of these are fine explanations as to why she doesn't look corrupted. However, no one seems to have an exolanation for why she inexplicably came out of there with perfect hair, perfect make-up, and deep cleavage in that supposed protective suit. Also on another note she has so many voicelines that just aren't fucking used. Like talking to her support backing nearby, or thanking her support for healing her. I'm a Sona onetrick and have never heard any of these lines and it's just such a waste, all I ever hear from her are the grunts and counting
: Quick and simple way to check for ranked rewards eligibility.
> [{quoted}](name=Glaricion,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PV8PEvsE,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-06-08T19:41:14.230+0000) > > Quick and simple way to check for ranked rewards eligibility. So put it somewhere, *literally anywhere* else then? No point in it being on your profile eating up real estate if it's not public information. Thats just shitty design
: Just a Reminder this BS is still crowding your profile
We should have the option to remove it, for the exact reason you stated. In fact, let's remove the honor slot as well since you can't see it on others' profiles so what's the fucking point of it being on the profile?
: > [{quoted}](name=Daedric Etwahl,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=FlzfOEpe,comment-id=00040003,timestamp=2019-06-08T04:29:33.212+0000) > > On what planet is that have a "threatening vibe"??? Thin skin much, jfc "Do this or I quit" is a threat. Or maybe you don't know the meaning of that word. And also, "vibe" is a subjective feeling, so again, maybe the problem is your lack of language skills, not my "thin skin".
> [{quoted}](name=Sugarlicious,realm=EUNE,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=FlzfOEpe,comment-id=000400030000,timestamp=2019-06-08T07:07:34.788+0000) > > "Do this or I quit" is a threat. Or maybe you don't know the meaning of that word. And also, "vibe" is a subjective feeling, so again, maybe the problem is your lack of language skills, not my "thin skin". Except nowhere did OP say "Do this or I quit" The actual quote from OP is "If nothing is done then I am afraid I might have to quit play the game indefinitely." The language used is not threatening in any capacity, it is stating that the OP will feels forced to stop playing the game for their own safety, despite wishing to continue playing this game. But please, continue telling me how I "don't understand" lol
: Even though I do see the problem, you saying "If nothing is done then I am afraid I might have to quit play the game indefinitely.", kinda gives me the threatening vibe. I mean, you could have said "I'll have to keep banning this champ forever to avoid the risk, and I'll never be able to play blind games or aram again", but you choose to hit the "I quit" button right away. For that alone, I'd say don't let the doors hit your azz on your way out.
> [{quoted}](name=Sugarlicious,realm=EUNE,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=FlzfOEpe,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-07T19:05:45.456+0000) > > Even though I do see the problem, you saying "If nothing is done then I am afraid I might have to quit play the game indefinitely.", kinda gives me the threatening vibe. I mean, you could have said "I'll have to keep banning this champ forever to avoid the risk, and I'll never be able to play blind games or aram again", but you choose to hit the "I quit" button right away. For that alone, I'd say don't let the doors hit your azz on your way out. On what planet is that have a "threatening vibe"??? Thin skin much, jfc
FSRER (EUNE)
: And she is not the only one with no identity {{champion:12}} {{champion:32}} {{champion:42}} {{champion:79}} {{champion:36}} {{champion:60}} {{champion:104}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:72}} (this thing doesn't even have a home) to name a few.
> [{quoted}](name=FSRER,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=uE6m5b1b,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-06-06T11:08:24.835+0000) > > And she is not the only one with no identity > {{champion:12}} {{champion:32}} {{champion:42}} {{champion:79}} {{champion:36}} {{champion:60}} {{champion:104}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:72}} (this thing doesn't even have a home) to name a few. The issue is that several of them have at least gotten lore updates over the years. Amumu and Skarner got an update a few years ago, Mundo has a new color story, Graves had updates in the Bilgewater update years ago, and Jax got some lore via the "Where Icathia Once Stood" story. The others I'm not sure about. Sona though has been around for almost 8 years I think, and has gotten *literally no* new lore in that time frame, despite numerous appropriate times for it. In fact, thanks to her lore staying the same after the great retcon, only with any parts about the League and Institute removed, as well as losing her League Judgment, Sona has *less lore* than she started with woth no updates all that time. In the original Demacia update she was one of the only Demacians left out. Then in the Ionian update, she also got the shaft. Then, during the second Demacian update with Sylas' release,where it focused on the oppression of mages in Demacia and Sylas' revolution, she *still* got absolutely nothing, *despite being a Demacian noble that is also a mage*. The lengths that they go to to avoid giving Sona lore is just maddening at this point. Especially when a few patches back we got a lore update we only got Galaxy Slayer Zed lore, because that's what matters.
: Melee toplaners weigh in: Who's the most tilting ranged champion to face top?
Despite maining Sona, I like to dabble aplenty in Sion, Urgot, and Yorick toplane. The champions that make me absolutely wanna tear my hair out would be... {{champion:150}} {{champion:67}} Gnar especially has just made me hate everything every time he gets picked. I honestly don't understand what the counterplay to him would be, even if I did pick another champion.
: I just want it confirmed that she and Lee Sin are dating.
> [{quoted}](name=OtakuBurrito,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=uE6m5b1b,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-05T23:00:12.663+0000) > > I just want it confirmed that she and Lee Sin are dating. Sona x Lux OTP baybeeeee I will die alone on my hill
: So Where Is Sona In The Lore?
Sona fans have been so desperately waiting for ANY lore on her for years and Riot has given next to nothing on her lol For your third point I always interpet it as Sona wishes for good things to happen to this world, peace, harmony, etc. But Morgana sees the world as a corrupt and horrid place that is beyond saving. Also I want them to give some development between Sona and Lux pleeeeease ;-;
Saezio (EUNE)
: Enchanters. They make the game so boring. 0 risk 0 skill champs. Sit back and hope you get carried by better teammates because you are unable/lack the balls to make your own clutch plays.
> [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=V5flu7RM,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-06-03T13:17:39.273+0000) > > Enchanters. They make the game so boring. 0 risk 0 skill champs. Sit back and hope you get carried by better teammates because you are unable/lack the balls to make your own clutch plays. I can safely assure you that Sona is *not* a "zero-risk champion"
: She doesn't need a nerf Supp items need to stop working for a lane with 2 of them, just that
> [{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=T2ZPHbax,comment-id=000a000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-03T08:44:14.492+0000) > > She doesn't need a nerf > > Supp items need to stop working for a lane with 2 of them, just that Yeah I heard the first time, I never said either way she needed a nerf or not, only that when Sona has seen *any* pro-level play Riot has historically nerfed her, which they actually haven't done in this instance because now it's not so black and white.
Exin0 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Daedric Etwahl,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=T2ZPHbax,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-06-03T02:23:30.237+0000) > > I'm honestly actually surprised Riot didn't nerf Sona right away when this cropped up, since that's been their MO every time she sees any pro level play. However, I suppose it makes sense why they didn't, since it's less Sona's own merits and more her synergy with Taric, hence why he's the one that is P/B and why she rarely if ever gets picked without him... Because there is no reason for nerfing her, numbers just dont warrant that. Ofc Riot can gut her just from spite as any other champ is that matter but if their approach is backed up by numbers there is long line champions befor her. And as "wierd" or "funneling" srategies goes Taric is always to blame.
> [{quoted}](name=Exin0,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=T2ZPHbax,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2019-06-03T03:13:34.894+0000) > > Because there is no reason for nerfing her, numbers just dont warrant that. Ofc Riot can gut her just from spite as any other champ is that matter but if their approach is backed up by numbers there is long line champions befor her. And as "wierd" or "funneling" srategies goes Taric is always to blame. Oh yeah, of course. Im not gonna pretend Sona's winrate is rather high, but her playrate is relatively low and her banrate near-nonexistent: people just don't find Sona that obnoxious or troublesome that they flock to ban her. On the contrary, most people I see mention her say how they consider the lane an "ez win" when they see her on the enemy team. It even showed on the chart a few weeks ago they shared. While Sona's winrate was rather high, her super low banrate resulted in her not crossing their "nerf line".
: So.... I'm guessing we're going to see Taric/Sona Duos for awhile.....
I'm honestly actually surprised Riot didn't nerf Sona right away when this cropped up, since that's been their MO every time she sees any pro level play. However, I suppose it makes sense why they didn't, since it's less Sona's own merits and more her synergy with Taric, hence why he's the one that is P/B and why she rarely if ever gets picked without him...
: Does Riot just not have a team for their client anymore?
Seriously it seems like every patch the client gets worse and worse. Replay client was completely broken last patch (idk if it still is) and just yesterday I instantly crashed upon entering the loading screen. Couldnt even alt tab, had to ctrl alt del and sign out of my laptop account It's honestly unreal how shitty this client is
: Everyone hates ez and lux being the focus my dude. It truly sucks to see them get those skin lines EPECIALLY when ezrial got a legendary skin. He already has an ULTIMATE skin like LUX for cryin out loud.
> [{quoted}](name=Whyskered Wyrm,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=IJ1uW19x,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-31T01:25:18.405+0000) > > Everyone hates ez and lux being the focus my dude. It truly sucks to see them get those skin lines EPECIALLY when ezrial got a legendary skin. He already has an ULTIMATE skin like LUX for cryin out loud. There's no rule that you can't have a legendary and an Ultimate. Even so, Pulsefire Ezreal was many years ago, so I don't see the reason for complaining other than "I don't like Ezreal and Lux"
: Exhaust is dead
I like taking Exhaust lol works fine for me
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