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: 3 death wishes in 1 game from 3 different people
If it gives you any comfort, they should have gotten banned. At least the karma who spammed kys. Besides that, I don't think League is a good way to destress. It's addicting, sure, but there are other ways besides jumping into ranked.
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: New Champions
There is a practice tool for a reason.
: I've actually become insanely toxic recently.
Honestly you just need a break fam. Stay off the game for few days to a week and see if it gets any better.
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Míellá (NA)
: why are people like this :c
Are you serious... he was not even being remotely negative, just pointing out a fact. You begging for your role by saying "autofilled" and "midlane main" is a more negative behavior.
iJG (NA)
: Ban AFK Farmers
You aren't exactly positive either, sunshine.
Kei143 (NA)
: If the game they reported the player in shows up in the reform card, they will get a notification. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/JEj6EsWh-a-more-transparent-report-system Understand that the system punishes based on consistency x severity. Even for extreme toxicity, sometimes it can take a couple of those games before they get punished. T e reform card only shows 1-5 recent games as examples of u acceptable behavior. So if a game passes the "recent time frame, the reporter will never receive a punishment notification. That said, the system can still use more clarity.
Yeah, I know that, I was assuming people usually just skip the report if the toxicity is not aimed at them. Is that wrong for me to think so?
: they already notify too much. those punishment notifications have increased the number of trolls by quite a lot in my opinion. it is so much fun to get that message that trolls make it their entire goal in the game.
Well, I don't think this will help the people who have played for a while, or as you said, some people who enjoy it, I just think that prevention can start early for new players.
: Take a break for a few months and then come back.
Yeah, it's so refreshing tbh. You might have withdrawal symptoms early, but it feels good to relax for a while.
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: partially, but I said SSN, **Social security number** you get one per lifetime. also one account per Korean bro, because you need your SSN and a Korean phone to sign up. so no smurfing in korea. but its not strictly a riot-thing, its the law over in korea so they can track you in the event something illegal is done on an account or something. they take gaming very seriously over there.
: theyre probably more lenient in korea because they have to link their SSN when signing up for an account.
Oh, does that mean they can't make another account if it is permabanned unless they have multiple phones?
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: Implement a system to dodge ranked queues without punishment due to players holding select hostage.
Dodge was made to lessen the impact champ select trolls have. Also, you have to realize that dodging after the free one is perfectly fine: what matters in climbing is mmr, not lp. I agree that it's annoying that these people receive no consequences when you dodge, but Riot gave a simple but effective way to not deal with these players. Don't fall into the mentality that you have to finish the game to report them. It's bad for your mental health. Instead of trying to grind, go for win streaks to climb. If you lose more than twice, it's not your day. Winning more gives more lp in the long run and more mmr.
: Unban reformed players
Riot doesn't force you to stop playing the game. If you are reformed, you should be fine on your new account. The lost money sucks, but that is also on you.
: What the ever loving fuck?
Although your chat does warrant punishment (Riot has a zero tolerant policy on all forms of negativity, even if you were attacked first), if you had no prior offenses I don't see how Riot could give a perma ban for this chat log. The OP had no homophobic, racist, or death threats that warrants an instant ban. I thought the policy was chat restriction and a 14-day ban at most. With that said, this is only true if you are honest about your in-game behavior. Personally, I believe you. Submit a ticket to riot and see what happens. Upvote so more people can see this.
: no. your first punishment is a 10 game chat restriction, your second punishment is a 25 game chat restriction, your third punishment is a 14day ban and finally your fourth punishment is permanent ban. Don't talk if you don't know. edit: getting downvoted by people who think they know how the system works better than me who's gone through that whole shit on over 30 accounts
There are some drastic offense that get you directly to the 14 day ban, like "kys," right?
Rioter Comments
: Personally, I've told several "competitive" people on here, when they bitch about bad teammates and people who don't follow direction, that they need to find people to play with then. They're queuing up with strangers, from casuals to try hards, and expecting them to take the game just as seriously as them. If you want a serious, competitive game, find people to play with. Because there are no rules as to why you should play this game and how serious you should take it. It's just dumb to hold strangers up to your expectations and then get mad when they don't meet them.
I think expecting your teammates to communicate is a reasonable expectation in a team game. So yes, they can't complain about how their teammates are, people who don't follow directions must communicate so the team has a direction.
: It's good advice, but, mostly IF your group is better than you. Playing with better players is the way to get better. But playing with worse players is a one-way ticket to insanity. =') Additionally, I see my friends make the same mistakes over and over, and they constantly play the same champions with the same tactics...I can't seem to teach them anything if they chose to lane with me, and the worst thing is they're so confident that I won't rage at them, they're starting to borderline troll me (or LITERALLY troll me, if I'm playing a relic sup and go for cannon). And then there's the amount of trust they put in me- I can go 3 or 4 games with my jungle main friend and he won't gank bot... I can lose lane to two bronzes if their jungler keeps coming bot and blowing my sums. It's not like bot is a strategic lane that needs focus or anything... b-baka. So my point is- ups and downs.
I agree, I think the players I played with learned nothing from me XD. But I think MOBA's competitive nature, at least in low elo, is built from a solo queue mentality. It's nice to see Riot implementing Clash to get people interact with each other more. People say toxicity comes from the competitive nature of the game, and that holds some merit. In RPGs, PVE would be really chill while people in PVP are notorious for flaming. It would be nice if League develops a PVE atmosphere for the game outside of solo queue (one that's not aram or special game modes). And Clash is a great start to that, because it's a Summoner's Rift game mode that has substantial rewards but no harm towards the solo queue rank. It's hard for new players (At least in my experience, since I started League last season) to improve when every game in Ranked has your lp at stake while normals and flex have almost no consequences, so it's just a place for 5-man friends to gather and troll a bit. If Clash pops off, new players who want to improve but don't want to start with the toxicity of solo queue can improve in this format and improve, also give them opportunity to interact with older players.
Terozu (NA)
: And then you for no reason thought hey ill go vent on the boards that my teammates were bad.
Am I venting? You can say that, but I have never insulted my teammates' skills, only their willingness to communicate. And I thought it would be interesting to bring this up. Personally, I support the never-surrender mentality. And in a losing situation, you enjoy the game more if the team unites and communicates about how people should come back. That is how a "team" is supposed to be, not half give up and throw yourself to the team that has the advantage.
Terozu (NA)
: A team is just people cooperating. The only person not playing as a team here seems to have been you. Since you instead tried to convince everyone to give up, then tried to boss them around.
Like I said, that wasn't my intention. It was 11 min in, and we just kept dying without knowing what to do. The reason I asked this question was to make certain that the team wanted to win. And since it felt like the team wanted to win, I felt that we had to stop the bleeding, and the only we could do that was to stall. I didn't spam ff or anything like that, I asked "Do you guys want to keep playing after 15?" Which is a legitimate question, since we were 10 kills and two towers behind in 11 minutes. I only asked that one question, and the team responded that they still wanted to play. So I did not say surrender after that, but lay out a plan that gave us a chance of winning. I don't think that's a bad way to approach a terribly losing situation, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Terozu (NA)
: Eeexcept no that is a team. A team is coming together to achieve a common goal. Nowhere does it say you need a leader and of you didnt want to leade you wouldnt have tried.
That is an unorganized group where you can see no teamwork except heading into a 5v5 teamfight. Necessity and want are different things, if we wanted to win we needed to stall. If a team at a deficit can't understand that and constantly fights, what is the point of playing further?
Terozu (NA)
: Teams do not nessecarily have leaders. Just people who cooperate.
That's not a team by any means. And like I said, I didn't want the role, but I also didn't want the team to just play aimlessly.
Terozu (NA)
: But the rest of the team clearly disagree with his options. He doesnt have to follow them and they dont have to follow him.
In my opinion, that's double standard. If League is a team game, there must be a leader. No one took up that role, so either they just wanted to play next or thought they could carry by themselves. I didn't want the leader role. I was a tank, I prefer my carries calling the shots. But here is the thing: no one talked. Yes, you don't have to follow what I say, but if you have nothing besides looking for a miraculous fight while an item behind, you have the obligation to listen to your teammates.
Invidie (NA)
: classic answer: they have the right to continue playing, apparently you shouldn't ask/encourage to them ff, its toxic.
Well, without the chat logs I can't prove how I was doing that in a non-toxic manner. If you want to take my word for it, I first said that I didn't blame anyone and asked if the team still wanted to play. Since they said yes, I tried my best. I didn't even type /surrender, I only asked the team to stall, which is the only thing you can do when you are behind.
Rioter Comments
: No, I mean in the rare occasion that it’s a 2 vs 1 top and no jungle. It’s happened to me twice in ranked and basically your teammates just tell you to fuck off and deal with it. Meanwhile if bot laner is 2 vs 1, the whole team would proceed to flame the support and try and help out the adc.
That's fine, toplaners have the kits and mostly the tankiness to brush it off and farm. If you are talking about lane swaps, Riot changed the game so it heavily punishes that play unless the solo laner dies. It's easier to kill the ADC than a toplaner, and there is no lane swap required to punish the team that is 2v1.
: I love how the ADCS get to whine in 1v2s but if for example, the mid laner or top laner was in a 1v2 they’d just dismiss it.
They are justified in doing so. jungle 1v2s and bot lane 1v2s are completely different scenarios. The support lives in that lane while jg just stops by for the gank. Solo laners also have kits that allow them to escape ganks, so they can still grab farm and experience. When a support irresponsibly roams, a glass cannon champion with no defensive or peel abilities cannot survive a 1v2 lane, let alone farm.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dakkimchi,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pEBipt5l,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-24T05:56:21.411+0000) > > Riot defines any kind of harassment as toxicity. Calling someone bronze is a reportable insult (in the verbal abuse category), but it's a kind that accumulates over time. This means either a) you said something worse and are sugarcoating it, or b) you have repeated this behavior, and the number of reports you received have accumulated to the point that Riot's system decided to ban you. > You can post the chat logs for more clarity. You have the best constructive comment so far. Yeah I know how the system works, this is just unfair given the circumstances (Getting reported even once gets you a perm ban). I remember there used to be 28 day bans, what happened to them? Exactly, "Riot's system decided to ban you". That is the part that's unfair, why can't a human review it before issuing a perma, if it's your last chance? I know if I was a Riot employee and I saw what I posted above, the most I'd do is maybe another 25 match mute, or hell even another 14 day ban, not a perma though. Chat logs been posted above.
Riot doesn't have the personnel to review every single report, and their policy is justified. If they let exceptions happen to the rules, ambiguity will allow people to adopt a half-toxic attitude that is considered "okay" by the community. Riot's system is justified.
Venompaw (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Oçeanz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3bYZLsX1,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2018-04-24T05:43:57.202+0000) > > 100% unequivocally agree with this statement. As an ADC player, it is already a coin toss whether or not you will get a support who won't just completely lose you the lane and actually knows what they are supposed to be doing. Why you would think that trying something like this in a RANKED game where you are affecting the LP of 4 other players is okay, especially in a meta like this, is beyond my understanding. > > Knowing how the game and this meta works, you should understand how much of a snowball effect occurs even off of just one kill/one item/average CS lead/small level advantages. Having smite as a summoner in the bot lane already puts your 2v2 capabilities at an extreme disadvantage in lane while also crippling your ability to peel for your ADC, which you should be doing, in team fight scenarios. So not only are you negatively affecting the lane phase, but the team fight and macro phases after lane as well. > > As an ADC, despite the popular(but wrong) belief that they are too strong, you must rely on your teammates at every point of the game to help you scale and to peel for you to make sure that you are able to dish out damage and survive. At any point in the game, if you are caught out alone, you are more than likely going to die with basically no counter-play depending on who comes to kill you. On top of that, turrets are relatively useless after level 3 or 4 as a defense mechanism to prevent people from diving you, so your assumption that it is okay that the ADC stays under the tower alone for extended periods of time is wrong. The ability to deny CS and EXP from the ADC in a 2v1 lane is all too simple of a mechanic, and, by leaving your ADC to fend for himself, you are in essence completely crippling his ability to CS, get EXP, and have any kind of impact on the game. Should it be this way? I don't think so, but Riot brought this meta to the game and as such we need to follow the proper methods of playing in order to allow every player to be competitive and climb the rankings ladder. > > Finally, it seems that there have been numerous complaints from your teammates that you are refusing to react appropriately to. After how many games of all of your teammates telling you that you shouldn't be doing that do you begin to realize that you are taking the wrong approach? Theory crafting is great and all, but the meta is there for a reason and unfortunately you cannot deviate much from the meta currently because of the very nature of the meta. The downside to falling strategies should be losing games and not bans and his record is okay ish. Also, as you noted, this game snowballs. So when it works, it works spectacularly, and when it fails, it fails just as hard. There's no point to following the meta because you have to outskill people. Break the meta, so you can win by surprise because you know what your deviation is capable of or you discover something new that works.
Cheese should be embraced, but it should not happen at the expense of other players. It's fine to do this strat as a solo laner because you are gambling yourself and yourself alone. Sure, it will lead to a loss if it fails, but if you tried your best to win your own lane, it's fine. A bad game, if you will. If you are doing this as a support, you directly punish a teammate who plays in your lane. When you queue for support, you should realize that your job is different from others: you don't farm minions or jungle camps. The reason Riot gave support better gold income than other MOBA games like DoTA is so that you can sacrifice farm for your carry, die for your carry, and still make an impact in a game. This cheese goes against the definition of a support. It's a situation where you set up a player to be in a lose-lose situation. If that doesn't fit the style, the player should not play support.
: Where did I claim to insult people? Calling someone bronze is not an insult, just cause they're sensitive about being bronze rank doesn't make it toxic. I said that I got banned cause I was being toxic, then I reformed like I was told to do. Sigh.
Riot defines any kind of harassment as toxicity. Calling someone bronze is a reportable insult (in the verbal abuse category), but it's a kind that accumulates over time. This means either a) you said something worse and are sugarcoating it, or b) you have repeated this behavior, and the number of reports you received have accumulated to the point that Riot's system decided to ban you. You can post the chat logs for more clarity.
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: add me
I added you, message me if you need a toplaner
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KiddFly (NA)
: Is Clash for everybody or only dedicated players?
There's nothing wrong with memeing if the entire team is cool with that.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dakkimchi,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KPZMsocE,comment-id=0001000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-18T21:03:09.659+0000) > > Long story short, I couldn't get on discord because it lagged the game and made me give fb to my laner. After that, he got either invaded by the enemy team, or he made poor invades while his lanes were pushed. Since he was tilted, he spam pinged my lane and typed "kys." And since I wasn't on discord, I took that insult quite hard, but not because of the insult, but because I felt that at that point the situation was out of my control. And yes. "kys" is a bannable offense, but in that context he didn't intend harm on me. Pretty sure kys gets you a ban even if nobody reports you
> [{quoted}](name=notFREEfood,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KPZMsocE,comment-id=00010000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-18T21:04:51.979+0000) > > Pretty sure kys gets you a ban even if nobody reports you Maybe, but I'm sure my report accelerated the process.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dakkimchi,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KPZMsocE,comment-id=00010000000000010000,timestamp=2018-04-18T20:48:48.657+0000) > > It was a 5-man flex with all my friends ^^;, and he didn't type in all chat. There are some systems that run all the time wheter you get reported or not. These are the insta-14-day bans that get handed out. If it wasn't from that system then your friend was already on the hairy edge and would have gotten the 14-day for some other game.
> [{quoted}](name=notFREEfood,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KPZMsocE,comment-id=000100000000000100000001,timestamp=2018-04-18T21:03:52.306+0000) > > There are some systems that run all the time wheter you get reported or not. These are the insta-14-day bans that get handed out. > > If it wasn't from that system then your friend was already on the hairy edge and would have gotten the 14-day for some other game. Nah, he was on a good track to Honor 2, he generally doesn't type anything in games because 1) there is discord and 2) no point in communicating with tilted solo queue players
: > [{quoted}](name=Dakkimchi,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KPZMsocE,comment-id=00010000000000010000,timestamp=2018-04-18T20:48:48.657+0000) > > It was a 5-man flex with all my friends ^^;, and he didn't type in all chat. Than why did you report him?
> [{quoted}](name=RedPannda,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KPZMsocE,comment-id=000100000000000100000000,timestamp=2018-04-18T20:51:01.256+0000) > > Than why did you report him? Long story short, I couldn't get on discord because it lagged the game and made me give fb to my laner. After that, he got either invaded by the enemy team, or he made poor invades while his lanes were pushed. Since he was tilted, he spam pinged my lane and typed "kys." And since I wasn't on discord, I took that insult quite hard, but not because of the insult, but because I felt that at that point the situation was out of my control. And yes. "kys" is a bannable offense, but in that context he didn't intend harm on me. More details can be found on my other post if you are still curious.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dakkimchi,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KPZMsocE,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-04-18T20:33:01.904+0000) > > I did not explain the full context of the situation in this post, but my report did get him punished. If it wasn't your report, it would have been someone else's report. Furthermore you don't go straight to a 14 day ban unless riot thinks you did something really bad. Reports simply flag a game for investigation. Your friend got punished because riot decided they didn't like his behavior.
> [{quoted}](name=notFREEfood,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KPZMsocE,comment-id=0001000000000001,timestamp=2018-04-18T20:40:09.991+0000) > > If it wasn't your report, it would have been someone else's report. Furthermore you don't go straight to a 14 day ban unless riot thinks you did something really bad. > > Reports simply flag a game for investigation. Your friend got punished because riot decided they didn't like his behavior. It was a 5-man flex with all my friends ^^;, and he didn't type in all chat.
: > [{quoted}](name=notFREEfood,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KPZMsocE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-04-18T20:30:09.379+0000) > > Your report did not earn your friend the suspension. It would have happened even if you didn't report him. > > Tell your friend that he needs to stop acting like an asshole. But it did?
> [{quoted}](name=Dakkimchi,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KPZMsocE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-04-18T20:32:17.530+0000) > > But it did? I did not explain the full context of the situation in this post, but my report did get him punished.
: Your report did not earn your friend the suspension. It would have happened even if you didn't report him. Tell your friend that he needs to stop acting like an asshole.
> [{quoted}](name=notFREEfood,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KPZMsocE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-04-18T20:30:09.379+0000) > > Your report did not earn your friend the suspension. It would have happened even if you didn't report him. > > Tell your friend that he needs to stop acting like an asshole. But it did?
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: If the chat was in team chat and you had a full 5-man, it might be possible, yes. Contact Player Support by sending them a ticket and (politely) explain the situation. I believe that it has happened at least once before, although it's possible that it isn't a consistent policy and that was a one-time thing.
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