: I feel like I was punished too harshly.
You only need honor level 2 to earn season rewards. I had a friend get chat restricted and honor locked over the summer (early June, I believe) and is now nearly honor 4. You can definitely get back to honor two by the end of the season, mid-november.
GMAN25 (NA)
: Honor 5 Token
The tokens can also be used to get the exclusive chromas for each skin. Those are all the honor rewards we'll be getting this season.
GreenLore (EUW)
: Uhm how does Taliyah fit into that theme? She is by no means villainous or would make a convincing antagonist.
A major theme in Sailor Moon (and magical girl shows in general) is that the naive, innocent, good-willed girls get corrupted by evil and manipulated. Taliyah would fit that trope. Also, imagine her shooting asteroids down mid lane.
: There is also no event this year or pass.
How are they doing the prestige skin then?
Trapics (NA)
: Veterans??? Taliyah is older than Zoe and Neeko (who is a relatively new champ being that she came out around the holidays last year) and correct me if im wrong I believe Xayah and Rakan came out after Taliyah as well... Not really sure if that makes too much sense.. but alrightie.
They mean veterans lore-wise, not since release.
: Didnt know that sorry, removed name. Still just ridiculous people are allowed to do this kind of nonsense.
Submit a support ticket to Riot with the clip(s) of the game. Make sure to mention he said it in chat so that they will manually review the logs as well.
: > [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7rMEYJ06,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-22T04:17:44.125+0000) > > You can try to submit a support ticket but you might not get the response you were hoping for. This chat log, while not egregiously toxic, does still show signs of negativity which is something that Riot considers unacceptable. Simply put, going back and forth with someone all game is pointless and detracts from your focus on the game. Mute the player and move on. > > On the bright side, it's only a chat restriction. It's just a light punishment, you're far from losing your account and you should have your honor back in no time as long as you keep your head up. It isn't a light punishment when it takes a year for me to get to honor 3 now my honor is locked and I can't earn free rewards, how is that a light punishment? Also - We didn't argue or be negative the whole game, if you read what I said, I mentioned that close to halfway through the game we bonded and we were positive with each other and won the game. I'm not saying my chat shouldn't be restricted, I could care less but my honor and rewards? Too much for this chat log if you ask me... and only one offence? ... come on.
If you keep your negativity under control and keep a cool head, you can get back to honor level 2 (needed for end of season rewards) fairly quickly. My friend was chat restricted and honor dropped just like you were back in June, and he is already honor 2 and competing in Clash this weekend. If you don't think that you can do that, just disable Ally chat. Better safe than sorry.
: Looking for some help; first time punishment
The system punishes based off of severity and consistency for chat related offenses (minus zero-tolerance issues.) So although this isn't the worst chat log I've seen, if you are as equally negative and argumentative (the reason for your punishment) in other games, they will rack up to a punishment, eventually. Was this just a 10 game chat restriction? Or was it a higher restriction/ban?
: 25 game chat restriction for being verbally abused and muting him without losing my cool?
Unfortunately you flamed back and report mongered, which is against the rules. This ban will not be overturned, most likely. Your best option would be to submit a support ticket to Riot. They may take a couple of days, but they will get back to you. In the meantime, I recommend disabling Ally chat (at least until they respond) as anymore chat based infraction will escalate your account to a 14 day ban (the next step on the punishment ladder.) Good luck with your ticket.
: Upon logging in I only see the perma ban ones. Not sure if I can still acquire the 14-day ones or not? But they're not much different to be honest. General toxicity and flaming back to players who initially flamed. Been a big downfall of mine, the inability to ignore flamers.
You can try to send in a support ticket to Riot asking for the logs from the previous ban.
: Instant Feedback System is severely flawed
Do you have chat logs from the 14 day ban and the perma ban, by chance?
: Make A New Skin For Zyra
She might get Star Guardian this year. Hopefully.
: So, it has come to this: someone displayed misbehavior in a LoL match in flagrant disregard for the game's rules, ToS, EULA, and Summoner's Code. That's unfortunate, and I'm sorry you had to deal with it. If this misbehavior happened in chat (including emotes or ping) and they don't respond positively to a _single, courteous, constructive request to focus on the game_, your best option is to mute that player. Submit a report after the match. This is equivalent to dealing with a noisy person in a library by asking them to keep it down and then notifying library staff and moving to another area. _Do not respond with misbehavior of your own!_ If you do that, your teammates may mute and report _you_, and those reports would be valid. This is equivalent to dealing with a noisy person in a library by getting into a shouting match with them. Just because someone else started it doesn't justify you in continuing it. I'm sure you're familiar with the "s/he started it" trope, where two children get into an argument or fight and then try to claim innocence of any wrongdoing by claiming that they didn't instigate it. As any parent, teacher, or other supervisor of children will tell you, that excuse doesn't fly. When Dad is trying to drive you to Disneyland and your annoying brother starts making faces at you as he's previously been told not to, you should calmly ask him to stop, and then, if that doesn't work, calmly notify your parents of the problem. Making faces at him or shouting at him has never been a good way to get him to stop, and it makes you just as guilty of that as he. Riot doesn't care who started it. Someone else's misbehavior does not justify your own. From [Riot's support knowledgebase](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/207489286-Instant-Feedback-System-FAQ-): > * Simply speaking, retaliation is not an acceptable or justifiable behavior. An argument between two players can easily create a negative experience for the rest of the players in the game with you. Regardless of the other player’s actions, this does not justify your own behavior. You alone are responsible for your actions within the game.If you encounter a toxic player like this, the best option is to simply report their behavior and move on. > * Reports are a vital piece to the puzzle. If you are not sure of what sort of behavior is reportable take a look at the [Reporting a Player FAQ](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752884-Reporting-a-Player) If you misbehave but a teammate or opponent does or says something even worse, you should definitely report them after the match, just as someone reported you for your own misbehavior. Yes, that's certainly possible. Reports are not a limited resource. Any time someone believes that another player violated LoL's behavioral standards, they can report that player. Punishments are similarly not limited: if more than one player in a game merits a punishment, they can both get a punishment. This can happen even if the players in question were antagonizing each other. The IFS doesn't need to weigh the severity of all reported players' actions and then "award" the "winner" with a punishment; it's not a contest. Think of it like dealing with a noisy person in a library: ask them to keep it down, and then notify library staff and move to another area if that doesn't work. If you get into a shouting match with them, you're just as likely to be removed, even if you weren't shouting _quite_ as loudly as they were. The goal is a quiet library. From [Riot's support knowledgebase](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752884-Reporting-a-Player): > It only takes one report for our systems to review a game. From [Riot's support knowledgebase](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752884-Reporting-a-Player): > Do not threaten or repeatedly tell a player you will report them. Doing so can encourage players who are already negative to continue their behavior. Whether they know they are being reported or not has no bearing to whether the system will act on them. But most importantly, repeatedly threatening or arguing with a negative player can end up derailing the game for everyone else and then open yourself up to reports and possible disciplinary action as well. Avoid negative thoughts and useless chatting with poor performing teammates! Focus on victory by muting the offending player and then reporting them at the end of the game. > > Do not ask other players in the match to report the offending player. It only takes one report for our systems to review a game. Additional reports will not do anything for the offending player; however as mentioned above, it could open yourself up to a report of your own; especially if you are derailing the match by constantly demanding reports of other players. Permabans are a punishment, not a free name change. As for the reason you were banned, you spent the whole damn match flaming your team. I'm guessing the two-week gap in your match history between 5/25 and 6/10 was a 14-day suspension, during which you were very clearly told to cut it out and behave. Instead, you decided that "ur bad" and "free mid then" and "what a dumb idiot" and "suck my balls" and "suck it" and "afk" and "fk u g uys" and "nah fk this team" and "reported" and "im reporting entire team except mord" and "and im reporting u all" would be good and appropriate things to say, interspersed with all your other general arguing and bickering. > So I'm thinking of quitting the game for good now, never looking back. That's exactly what Riot wants you to do. They would rather permabanned players quit forever and never spend any more money than have those permabanned players make a new account and continue to drive away dozens or hundreds of customers.
Do you care if I copy this for a discord I'm in? It has a select few individuals that are consistently toxic.
The 13th (NA)
: I have a feeling that regardless of what someone says or doesn't say - 4 reports against someone would cause punishment either way. If for example, 4 people decided to queue together and randomly report the other 1 person for whatever reason (in my case they were just taking out their anger on me and probably annoyed that I stood up for myself), then that 1 person is basically screwed. As the jungle put it, "all report yasuo make sure to add a description and he'll get banned". Mob mentality
That is incorrect. The report system works the same whether one person reports you or whether 9 do. For chat based offenses a report will automatically trigger a review of the chat logs for that game. If the bot sees negative chat, flame, or zero-tolerance behavior, a penalty is issued. If the flame is not excessive (light flame once in the match) and does contain ZT, the it is possible that your account will only be marked negatively and no punishment will be immediately given. Repeated offenses will result in punishment, however. Additionally, people mongering for reports is also a punishable offense, so if someone starts doing that to you, mute and then report in post lobby. Hope this helped clear up any confusion.
: 1a) Riot themselves have tried to suggest a correlation between chat and other bad behaviors several times. I'm not going to do the digging, but the conversations do exist, and they do claim there is a correlation between griefing and chat. 1b) Obviously you've never played a competitive sport, and in light of the opinion that "people can't control themselves," the question should be deferred to: Should we actually punish what people cannot control? I've played with people are saints in the workplace..... world.... and everywhere else, and guess what? They also get toxic on League. I know you don't like to admit it, but your own response reeks of toxicity, position, and improper candor. Often, those who are the most toxic are actually those who try to police and get some sort of gratification out of it. 2a) The .06% number has been "pretty steady" for about 10 years...... never changing..... never increasing..... never decreasing..... in other words, the number is not a statistic, but rather a shaming device. REAL stats do change, and anyone whose created a new account... leveled a smurf.... or been through a ban, knows that literally 40% + of new accounts are Chat behavior discipline returns. They also know that Honor is so rare now, that you're lucky to see Flair on one person per 2 games. Don't try to claim .06% is accurate. It's not even close. Here's what I'm more apt to believe.... if you want to rely on that number: .06% of active players per day are permanently banned. 25% have enough chat violations to be "on deck" for future discipline. Cumulatively, at least 20% of this community has a ban or two.
You're pulling a bunch of numbers out of nowhere with no sources to back them up. Just your feelings. Additionally, you had multiple chances to correct your behavior and were fairly warned of the consequences.
: Simple Yuumi nerf idea
Yuumi is currently nerfed on PBE right now. Those nerfs should ship Wednesday, unless they are pulled.
: Is this what it's like?
Hey, you need to edit the guy's name out of your post. The boards have a no naming and shaming policy. Also, unfortunately, Riot employees do not look over these boards (often) so you cannot get help here. You should submit a support ticket detailing what happened. It may take a few days but Riot will eventually get back to you.
Tarquin96 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=DarkCaves,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sQ9L2Gvu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-07T07:06:10.420+0000) > > Best: {{champion:28}} {{champion:40}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:30}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:82}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:163}} {{champion:555}} a few of these picks are more utility based (Taliyah, Janna, Pyke) Kassadin, Lucian and Kai'Sa we're almost up there, too. > > Worst: {{champion:143}} {{champion:89}} {{champion:102}} {{champion:9}} > Honestly couldn't think of more champs for this. Zyra is definitely the worst of that list though. You remember old zyra passive?i think that would be the worst one
> [{quoted}](name=Tarquin96,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sQ9L2Gvu,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-08-07T13:14:12.269+0000) > > You remember old zyra passive?i think that would be the worst one That passive didn't feel nearly as bad or useless as her current one does, though.
: > [{quoted}](name=DarkCaves,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sQ9L2Gvu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-07T07:06:10.420+0000) > > Best: {{champion:28}} {{champion:40}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:30}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:82}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:163}} {{champion:555}} a few of these picks are more utility based (Taliyah, Janna, Pyke) Kassadin, Lucian and Kai'Sa we're almost up there, too. > > Worst: {{champion:143}} {{champion:89}} {{champion:68}} {{champion:9}} > Honestly couldn't think of more champs for this. Zyra is definitely the worst of that list though. Rumbles passive is literally one of the strongest ones.
> [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sQ9L2Gvu,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-08-07T07:15:10.956+0000) > > Rumbles passive is literally one of the strongest ones. Ah shoot I meant to hit {{champion:102}} not him. A passive only good on SR lol. I'll Fix that.
: In your opinion, which are the top 10 best passives?
Best: {{champion:28}} {{champion:40}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:30}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:82}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:163}} {{champion:555}} a few of these picks are more utility based (Taliyah, Janna, Pyke) Kassadin, Lucian and Kai'Sa we're almost up there, too. Worst: {{champion:143}} {{champion:89}} {{champion:102}} {{champion:9}} Honestly couldn't think of more champs for this. Zyra is definitely the worst of that list though.
: I was inted and 2 games after enemy nocturne told me to kms
You won't always get a notification from the IFS if someone is punished. When you clicked the request a human, the request most likely went through, it's just in the back of the queue. Give it two or three days for someone to get to it.
: I was inted and 2 games after enemy nocturne told me to kms
Also, the blitzbot message is there to let you know that the report has been received, not to say that they aren't doing anything about it.
: While I disagree that the Ward Skins (which are a bonus End-of-Season reward for high Honor Levels) are _that_ bad, I do personally agree that there should be better rewards for high Honor - at least Honor Level 5. In my opinion, I don't like the way they're going with the Honor Level 5 rewards following the first two seasons - if all we're getting is a Chroma choice between the two Honor-exclusive skins (which the first Chromas, IMO, don't particularly look great? Although that's subjective, but the Twisted-Treeline-esque blue color scheme doesn't really sit well with me) every year, I can see how gaining Honor 5 again wouldn't be particularly worthwhile. However, there's also a caveat - the two solutions that come to my mind have some notable costs/drawbacks that make them unappealing. 1) **Loading on more rare Legacy skins.** This would somewhat be the easier of the two solutions (as there are quite a few Champions, particularly those earlier ones like Kayle, who have skins that are no longer obtainable for one reason or another), but also the most contentious. Older players who obtained those skins back when they were available would doubtless feel the worth of those skins diminished if they so much as came back to availability, nevermind wide availability like the Honor system. There would be a balancing act for Riot to both ensure that players can feel rewarded for reaching Honor Level 5 consistently, while also making sure that the players who had the skins originally would have some signifier that they have one of the originals. It's a precarious solution, even if a simple one. 2) **Creating new Honor-Exclusives each year.** This solution would be altogether safer, but would also come with the bite that they're making another skin that is, for all intents and purposes, free. On top of Hextech skins (how many have we gotten in this year alone?) and the Victorious skin, there's always that additional cost to consider that, as it stands, Riot is already pretty damn generous with skins (even if the Gemstone droprate would make it seem otherwise), so more free skins could potentially be seen as overkill. Although, in my opinion, I feel like one extra free skin each year wouldn't come at too great a cost, so, more than anything, I'd personally like to see Option 2. But, bear in mind, this is just my opinion and my ideas. Take everything I say here with a grain of salt, and know that I speak only for myself.
I would love to have a choice of certain legacy skins (Queen Ashe is the only skin I've been trying to get for years now) once honor level 5 is reached. I feel like another fun thing they could do would be to double the amount of skins that Your Shop provides or discount another skin in the shop weekly, although that sounds like a fair bit of coding. Maybe just a pass for a free non legendary/ultimate skin? I don't think one extra free skin would be overkill. There's even a small chance that could encourage people to not misbehave in game. If somehow any of these are overkill, couldn't Riot just make honor take longer to grind out instead of the ~5 months it takes now? I got both the skins within a week of each other last year and they're both just underwhelming. Hopefully these chromas will be better in-game than they looked.
: I acknowledged I said those words; however, my question is if those TWO words said in ONE game that was presented as the SOLE chat log as a representation of ABUSE warrants a permanent ban. Im not questioning that it is incorrect, but if that is all it takes to get an account permabanned, how is the percentage so low? Furthermore, I disagree with the premise of rank shaming as the phrase "obv a bronze player" is in relation to the previous statement of "rushing a tear as 0/5," which in my opinion relates to more of a decision making issue, rather than "rank shaming". Thank you for the input, and am I mistaken in any part of my interpretation?
If you already received the 14 day ban, then yes, the two negative words you said in one game are enough to warrant the perma ban. Any type of negativity or poor behavior will automatically escalate to a perma. It should have said so on the report card when you received the first ban. As for why the percentages are so low, it's because it is not normal for people to flame or be aggressive in chat, in a videogame. 80% of the player base never even receives a chat restriction.
: > [{quoted}](name=SuicidePlank,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=NNh5NGR0,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-07-23T01:29:56.762+0000) > > Wow. Just wow. > You really think that's all jokes and giggles? i know what i did was wrong and im sorry if u can give me another chance i can show u that im never like this just plz give me another chance on this account
You had multiple chances to fix your attitude. You are not getting your account back. Toxicity, negative attitude, flaming, report badgering, racism? Really? It's 2019.
: yes
As long as you stop the flaming and negativity you shouldn't escalate punishments any further. It will take a few months, but your account can return to good standing over time.
: I'd rather talk about why Qiyana got her ult buff between pbe and live, and why her ult needed to have a knockback as well as a stun duration/damage/range that long
She had a very low win rate on pbe when she was first released. I believe it was around 40%, so they gave her that buff.
: Chat restriction.... I cant understand why...
An overall negative attitude and flaming your team. Is this your first chat restriction?
Rustypug (NA)
: just got perma banned
Chat logs, please.
: > I do, however, agree with your point of maintaining honor between seasons. The biggest issue of the idea of maintaining Honor between seasons is that Riot set up the Honor System as something of a reward track, with Honor-Exclusive skins (and now, Chromas) tied to Honor Level 5. Add to that the fact that Riot wants the Honor Climb to be a persistent thing, rather than just "level up to 5 and I'm done", it makes sense for them to reset Honor at the beginning of every season. It'd be pretty hard, I think, to rework the Honor System to remove that season reset, given that it was designed with the reset in mind.
That makes sense, it just feels bad that the people who play without being toxic and actually hit honor 5 receive the same reset that someone who was toxic and only reached level 3 or 4 does. I'm fine with a drop down, but I feel like it should be a set number of levels regardless of your honor rank.
Vodka2287 (EUW)
: Not if you're a fan of casual banter...
Homophobia is not casual banter.
Dukues (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=oFye96Eg,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-07-08T17:54:09.429+0000) > > Define "better feedback". Because, from what it looks like you're talking about here, you're wanting to know either how close you are to de-escalating punishment tiers, or how frequently reports made against you are valid. > > If it's the former, then that's really just a no-go; Riot's not going to give players indicators like that, because then people are just going to game it and try to moderate their toxicity so that they're still breaking the rules, but never actually putting their account at risk. > > If it's the latter, I can see _some_ reason for that to happen, but it's not a concept that can be applied in the general scope. You'd have to get specific with it, detailing how such clarity and feedback would be given, as well as making sure that such information can't be gamed and doesn't cause undue stress - I.E, a "warning system" would likely result in players mistakenly believing that they're being punished when they aren't. > This all makes sense. > You don't just regain someone's trust overnight if you prove to be untrustworthy. Honor progression in general is supposed to be a nearly year-long affair, it only makes sense that you have to spend more time if you prove to be dishonorable. > That is the insane part about it. Do you really not grasp how dumb what you just said is? A year to try to gain honor yet it can be a few games to lose it all. On top of that HONOR ALMOST FULLY RESETS AT THE START OF A SEASON. How dumb is that? Like lmfao. Don't remember season start date but you could literally be honor 5 Jan say 19th and then Jan 20th your honor 2 LMFAO. Literally you did nothing except Rito's dumb system of having honor season based for some dumb reason. > And, like GatekeeperTDS said, it's a punishment. It's supposed to hurt, elsewise, it wouldn't communicate that you shouldn't be doing what got you punished in the first place. > It's not really a punishment when its like beyond cruel. I legit feel bad for people who get punished in this system. Pre new honor system changes I would have cheered for anyone being punished because it made sense. But now punishment so sever over even the simplest of things I actually feel bad for people who gets punished because the punishment doesn't actually fit the crime. > The Honor drop from a Chat Restriction (assuming it's the first punishment) is down to Honor Level 1; it doesn't matter what Honor Level you're at, it will drop you to Honor Level 1 on the first offense, then Honor Level 0 (Dishonorable) on the second anon. > And that doesnt seem insane to you? That's even worse than I realized wow.... so the system is even worse than I originally expected good to know. > That said, the first Chat Restriction still functions perfectly well as a warning. It places you just within reach of being Honorable (Honor Level 2) again so that you know "hey, you can lose out on a lot of shit if you break the rules", while still giving you room to earn back the base-level stuff (Clash Eligibility, End-of-Season Reward Eligibility, etc.) > It's not a warning..... it's literally a death sentence to your season and your account. Well... depending on the time of year but its basically saying you can never even type in game again because even if you don't flame but you do bad your team can still report you and if you type the auto system can still flag it. It's been proven before. So you can't type, you can't actually bank on getting honor because being a good person and teammates doesn't actually guarantee you anything other than not being reported. So your now punishment could be anywhere from what? 100? 200? to 500 games? Maybe more? But yea.... great warning system Riot has you are right..... lol > And if you think that's insane, then it should give you ample reason to follow the rules you agreed to. Riot doesn't ask much, just don't be toxic or spread excessive negativity. Don't insult or flame others, don't intentionally feed or troll, etc. > Its not insane to follow rules it's insane to pretend like this honor system makes sense and the punishments fit the crime. Intent feeding and trolling are way more game effecting than chat btw. You can't mute intent feeders, hackers, trolls, but you can mute "flammers". You can't mute boosters or any of that other game ruining shit, but people can mute someone "flaming" them. Yet the only people are almost ever punished from this system are people chatting. It's so backwards. > There is merit to this idea, but it would have to be handled carefully. As I mentioned before, if the warning isn't presented properly, people could assume that they've been punished, and frankly, I imagine it'd get ignored if it just popped up like the usual Honor message of "You've been Honored x amount of times by non-premades, here's a Key Fragment!". So this is why this honor system is trash and why there shouldn't be a punishment system based around it until the honor system is fixed. 1. Honor should not reset at the start of a season. If you honor 5 or w/e you want max honor to be you should stay honor 5 unless you become dishonorable. 2. Having a limit of honoring 1 person when there are 4 other team members is flawed. 3. Honorable opponent should be an option like it used to be. Right now a lot of the time the person who gets the honor is someone who carries a game. But that doesn't = honorable behavior. Sometimes you have 4 members on a team who are all honorable, but you are forced to pick between 1, makes no sense. Even if you are the most honorable player in the history of this game it doesn't mean you will actually ever receive an honor or as much honor as you should. People honoring each other is too subjective and insanely punishing to players who actually need honors to rank up. The system is too limiting on receiving honor and therefore drastically effects player to player what each honor level means as number of games. 1 player could have to play a significant number more games to reach the same honor as someone else even if they both the same level of honorable when you look at the rules. You can't have a system punish players so painfully when the system the punishment is based on is so flawed. Fix the honor system, then the punishment system will be justified, but until then it's just a very cruel punishing system that makes no sense.
People that are punished should not be able to easily restore their accounts ill-standing or receive the benefits that are given to those that adhere to the rules. Additionally, it does not take nearly as long as you make it out to be to get to honor level 2, if you are not being toxic. If you are constantly playing (a game or two a day) and following the rules, it should only be about two months, maybe two and a half, to hit level 2. My friend was recently chat restricted and honor was reset to 0. That was a little less than a month ago and he is nearly level 1 again. I do, however, agree with your point of maintaining honor between seasons.
: If you are being annoyed by the 45k healing mission, then just play like 2 games of Vlad
: Rude Tryndamere
You can try opening a support ticket.
: The difference between us is that I didn't go back to my match history to get all the exact details, I remembered he died a lot and used some numbers off the top of my head to try to make a point. If I "embellished" it was incidental, and irrelevant to the point of my argument. But as I said, it's whatever, you disagree and no matter what anyone says you will never change your mind so this conversation is pointless. Have a great day, please stop replying as a courtesy, because unread notifications trigger my OCD and I have no interest in continuing this conversation.
So, you were proven incorrect and now you're running away because your argument was destroyed? Boy, bye.
: How do I challenge a chat restriction when teammates lobby for reports that are false?
: Ranged Champions in Top Lane
Bramble Vest costs 1K gold and resells for half that. Tabi are 1.1K
: I am posting this, because i do not understand leagues standards of negativity, do they just expect us to keep shut about everything. Like i understand flaming with shit that has nothing to do with the game which yes i have offended on and is, well a reason to ban me. but its mostly the second game. What is the main goal? pushing right? now how can any lane push if the jungle is farming with a thumb up his ass. If he doesn't contribute to teamfights or help push or not really help enough with objectives... is he not useless? Does riot expect us to be like "oooh ok buddy good job" or keep shut. I also didn't call him useless till mid to late when there already were arguements to support this and its not like i am cursing him with stuff beyond league. I also don't understand, is calling somone a feeder that bad of conduct, someone dies like 0/8 is there really that much of a difference between saying "stop dying" "play safe" or "stop feeding"? (i said it as in he fed the botlane but i do regularly call people feeders and does riot really find this bad conduct? Also giving up early, is something when you tilt or go afk but is it for real bad conduct to say out of frustration what i did not that my gameplay got heavily influenced by the tilt. who fed what, that no towers have been pushed and they are always fighting and dying hence why we made no progress yet they were blaming me. Like so does Riot for real want NO like negativity in any form? Isn't it like important as long as there are evidence to back thing up? I know i am sounding like a hypocrit here, however there was no signs of me dying intentionally or doings things just to piss my team off. so there was no evidence that i "was" a troll
If you're capable of speaking kindly, then yes, you should stay quiet. No negativity is allowed. It says that in the ToS. Also, threatening to go afk because you felt entitled to an apology without even attempting to politely work out the situation? Yeah, that's trolling. Also, please post your other chat logs.
Kindred3 (NA)
: Insta-Bans?
Chat logs, please.
Azzazhell (EUNE)
: bruh why are u acting all wise when you know , no matter what this game gets the worse out of you , i had a bad game , they started flaming , i gave in , im not proud or anything but lets not act like i went to a random school and started offending children . "You're stupid and bronze and your mom's a whore!" is nowhere close to what happend in that chat , as i said , i called him idiot once and said he had negative iq , 3 minutes later i say forget that carry us , it was not like HATRED flame , it was more like i got frustrated those guys wont stfu so i gave in.
If you seriously get frustrated to the point that you feel the need to flame and yell at other people in a videogame, you honestly need to find a therapist. Because that is not normal and most people do not have that reaction.
rujitra (NA)
: You haven't responded to a single one of the very valid points zPOOPz made. You're the one whose just bashing him instead of responding to his points.
He even linked sources to back up his argument. OP is a troll, at best.
flying (NA)
: LET US DISABLE CHAT FOR OURSELVES
If people have anger issues they need to see a therapist, not be playing league.
: When will Riot nerf Trinity Force?
God forbid you spend one-fifth of the money they spend on that item to purchase some armor. If you're complaining about an AD class buying one of their maybe three AD items that aren't completely garbage, I suggest you stop popping the xanax and float back down to reality; they should get a massive power spike for spending 3K gold. Additionally, you can kite all but two of the champs you listed quite easily.
: For those of you worried about "false reports".
How do you find out how many times you've been reported? Really curious since I've never been banned, chat restricted, or warned.
vtboy00 (NA)
: When are we going to ban non-english speakers on US servers?
The United States has no official language for a reason. It's also the North American server. Additionally, what are you going to do five years from now when then are more Spanish speakers than English speakers in the US? Maybe the problem is that you need to learn more languages. Duo Lingo is having a sale right now.
: Banned for 14 days
Chat logs, please.
Ludicol0 (NA)
: ***
Maybe you're just wrong and spiteful?
: > [{quoted}](name=DarkCaves,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=UwPzit1L,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-02-11T07:17:19.709+0000) > > Oh, thank god. A toxic player is actually quitting A toxic player is someone that demeans other people. Not someone that loses hope in a single game because the score is nearly impossible to come back from. This is another problem about this community. I guess you're one of the people that cry every time someone speaks towards your direction. I've also just passed a kidney stone and maybe I wasn't in the mood to deal with another 5-15 minutes of being in a game that we had a 1-2% chance of someone actually coming back. Not only that people apparently think I've been permanently banned or something when in reality it's just a chat restriction ... I could keep playing but I'm not because unlike you I don't have the delusion that the game is in a healthy state. I'm tired of all the ACTUAL toxic people ... I'm tired of the unbalanced matchmaking system ... I'm tired of the smurfs ... I'm tired of loading into a lobby and losing simply because the enemy team got lucky and had a smurf or someone on my team either bought their account or was a new account to begin with. I've played thousands of games I know when some just aren't winnable. People need to realize when it's wasting their time and when it isn't.
Your mother clearly failed to raise you properly if you think what you said wasn't toxic. Also, no matter what you are feeling at the moment, you do not speak to others like that. Basic dignity should have prevented you from doing such.
: Yeah, I'm sorry for that. You see, I can't help myself. When people personally attack me, I feel the urge to do the same. No wonder they banned my account =) I'm joking. The thing is, I didn't lie to you. You are quite condescending. Not trying to insult you, it is not an insult even. > What is toxic? Calling someone a %%%% even %%%% is toxic regardless of reason. Here's and advice for you sport, don't be so strict. Calling people c**nts or bit**es isn't toxic. It is rude. It is impolite. It is wrong. Yet, it is not toxic for sure. Examples: Mid, stop feeding, omg its gg. Please report this feeder (all chat) Offering surrender vote when every or almost every structure is up. Blaming someone for being "bad" at the game. ETC. As you can see, not a single swear word. Yet toxicity of these phrases can give a snake a run for its money. Again, punishment should correspond with the crime. I don't think that a future perma ban is a fair treatment of a normal player. Your thoughts?
Reading your posts on here, I can already tell your ban is deserved. Don't come back. And, yes, you are toxic.
: Greatly Disappointed with this lore update
Probably as soon as she speaks, unfortunately :(
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