Rioter Comments
: I'd love to see a brand skin similar to the "sword" skins. I brightly colored brand would look nicer than most people would think (from custom skin experience)
Kind of like Galactic skins, which again, I think could work really well for him.
: Same, but since it's off season what else is there? {{sticker:sg-janna}}
I'm still climbing ranked because I enjoy the challenge. I'm also a support main so carrying in a way that pushes my team to victory is even more difficult.
: A few tips: - Have thicker skin, the internet is gross - Quit finding reasons to say "btw guys I'm a girl, react to this" - Play more Ivern, people generally enjoy having one on their team as he is one with the trees
More Rakan too. He's my favorite <3 {{champion:497}}
: I honestly wish 50% of the players in this game, that I have ever played with, were perm-banned.
This is your experience, and I'd be really surprised if you were seeing this behavior as often as you are. I'd also be interested in seeing examples of what you consider to be unsportsmanlike. With the number of people playing this game and the number of games you've played, I'd be surprised if you've seen even half a percent of the player-base, which makes your desire for 50% getting banned pretty extreme. This shit is frustrating, I get it. I lost my series for Gold 2 twice last night due to similar behavior. That being said, that's 2 games out of 10 or 11. When you're playing a game with other people, there IS going to be a level of toxicity and negativity, not because it's okay, but because we're all human, and we all have bad days. Just let them know, "Hey, that's no necessary" or "There's a nicer way to say that" and if they continue, just mute them and move on and send the report at the end.
: I removed that last sentence, as it came off as a bit rude. I get that it was in response to someone else being rude, but in the future, please just report the comment. On another note, players come here to rant about shitty in game experiences, which is perfectly fine. If you have any questions about this moderation, feel free to reach out to us in the [Boards Discord](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/7rtKBZLi-boards-moderation-discord-verification).
Hikazu (NA)
: I used to sup main, im a lv7 Brand and lv6 Thresh, but sup is hard to carry, thats why I turned into jg now.
That you acknowledge that means that I've said all I need to.
: I don't think these individuals do this only in my games, by coincidence. So if, by chance, my games were the only ones they acted like this in: A. That would suck. B. Then yes, a ban wouldn't be warranted.
I didn't suggest that they only do it in your games.
: I don't feel like Riot does their part; Extreme toxicity regularly.
Look at the size of the player base and then the number of new faces you see every game. In what realistic world do you expect to see the results of the 1 or 2 reports you submit every other game in a short span of time? Even IF Riot made the system more strict and more bans and punishments went out, people would just create new accounts more often than they already do. Do you know how many people get on here talking about how many accounts they've had banned?
Hikazu (NA)
: I totally understand, and that's why I suggest the first ban is only for a month. If people really got in those situation, which have to be afk, I don't think they will be back to game very soon. At least for me, if I am dying I will stay in hospital, not going out for video games. I won't even have mood for it. And this is only for rank, which people are playing serious. Or AFKer will keep made us losing lp like what just happened to me, the price for afk in rank is 2 cheap now.
You're just salty dude Lol, a month ban for one afk? Shit happens. I've been carrying and doing well enough as a support main that I've been slowly climbing Gold over the past week, playing champs like {{champion:89}} {{champion:412}} {{champion:497}} {{champion:63}} , the latter two of which I've only played a handful of times combined. You win one, you lose one, you win two, you lose one, you win one you lose two, you win one. If you think it's difficult climbing playing primarily jungle, try it out as a support homie.
Hikazu (NA)
: ***
No, it's not your fault, it's part of the climb. If you can't handle that, maybe you shouldn't play ranked m8. <removed by moderation>
Hikazu (NA)
: Two rank games in a row, a lv2 afk jg, and a 1/14/1 inting dumbass.
You're not the only one that deals with this. Coming here to rant and talk shit about them isn't doing anything to help you either. What few players that come here to complain (similar to you) realize is that players that afk, int, grief, etc are part of the climb. Anyone climbing deals with these obstacles. You can either over come them and pull some wins out of your ass by staying positive and trying to keep your team focused and their morale up, or you can continue to let those games get under your skin and come here to talk shit about them. Only one of those scenarios will see you improving and climbing up in rank. Edit: Please down-vote more Lol {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
: Negative Attitude
If you feel like they're being negative over and over again and bringing down the morale of the team, just report for negativity afterwards. The system will review the game and if they were, it'll be recorded on tacked onto their record.
Ledaig (NA)
: There needs to be harsher punishment for AFKers
I wouldn't say this always happens. It might happen more often for a period of time than at others, but I, personally, don't see it so often that I think they need to be punished more severely. The game naturally tracks inactivity. Just report them and move on.
BradNo (NA)
: I mean damage wise.
Damage is important, but it's not every thing. Supports carry games all the time and will end up with the least amount of damage done in the game. They carry by effectively supporting their carries in team-fights and granting vision in key locations on the map. Unless it's a landslide victory, you're not going to see a Leona or an Alistar topping damage. That being said, I also realize there are supports that fill that role by bringing extra damage, such as Brand, Vel'Koz, Zyra, and Annie
: My personal experience: be hilarious in a mostly positive fashion. Carrying helps, but being hilarious makes people notice you. I recently got 3 honors for instalocking Karthus ADC and not throwing the game, plus apologizing for accidental kills with ult.
Incidentally, I'm seeing APC bot lane a lot more now that we're in preseason and Karthus is in a pretty good place right now. I've also seen Heimer and Cassiopeia bottom on more than one occasion.
: More options
I disagree with most of what you're suggesting. Reporting in champ select? Why? Short of hate speech, even if they pick Teemo jungle and say they're going to feed the enemy team, until the game is played, there's no way to know if that's what they're actually going to do. As for leaving in Champion Select, you do lose LP but not as much as you would if you just sit there in a queue with someone that you believe is going to feed or grief and then you lose the game. However, staying always offers the opportunity of winning anyways. I had a "one trick" Zoe in my game that went 1 6 yesterday. The player said that it was a stain on their pride and ego if they were carried so they started running into the enemy team, going afk, refusing to fight in team-fights. We still went on to carry and win the game 4 v 5 because I told my team to ignore her and to keep pushing objectives and traveling as a group so that we weren't getting picked off and furthering our deficit in team fights. Not exactly related to your post, but close enough. And no, there wouldn't be ways out of the game without being punished. Even as a support main with near instant queue times, I've been in match finding for 10 minutes because people will dodge if they don't like the way a team looks. If there were no repercussions for dodging queue in ranked, finding a game would be a pain in the ass. People would dodge over the slightest thing. My opinions here of course.
BradNo (NA)
: No one honors when they lose. How can I fix that?
_**You're**_ saying you carried. **Your fellow summoners are the ones that decide** if you were carrying/being an asset to the team. That's where the Honor comes from. As a support main, I almost always get honored on losses. I'm constantly calling for objectives and making sure the team is aware of timers. I try to always be on top of vision if it's safe to do so, averaging about 2 vision score per minute. Also, being kind and constructive with the things that you say in chat goes a **_long_** way.
: Yeah, I get that. I hate that you're used to it, anonymity is a helluva drug tho.
Yeah, people love talking shit over them interwebs Lol
: I’m sick of this shit. I have a blowout one game and I get chat restricted. Fuck me i guess
If it's a no tolerance offense, yeah, it can take one game.
: I do, obviously, and possibly the person who's mother you insulted in what is likely the most childish way possible. Not everyone is toxic, otherwise everyone would eventually get punished. I've never gotten a single punishment.
I reported it and I'm moving on. I'm used to this kind of behavior but it needs to be brought to the attention of a mod or someone because nobody deserves to be subject to it. He's just lashing out.
: ***
People are trying to give you advice and suggestions and you're being toxic about that? 9 accounts?
: And who gives a shit? Everyone’s toxic and ban happy
No, not everyone is toxic. And those that are, do get banned, yes. Enjoy the free time, or create a new account. Just try to do better or continue being spiteful. Up to you m8
: What’s the point of getting rid of toxicity so much
It's amusing to see this as your follow-up post.
: Yeah but every game there is either a noob or a fucking troll messing everything for me
A noob by who's standards? Yours? What gives you the right to tell them they're noob? Also, you know, I've noticed, if you have a tendency towards toxic/griefing behavior, you're gonna bring that out in other players as well, especially if you're directing it towards them.
: Not looking for appeal. Just showing the report system is shit and so is the playerbase
It's not shit and neither is the player-base. I play with a lot of really chill individuals every day.
: I said don’t ban yasuo tho...
It doesn't matter.
: I made Tea while waiting for ranked. its an exaggeration and I believe you know that. If everyone gets a fresh start except you, how would you feel? its also slow as flying fucking hell to climb after being toxic for a few rounds. Daily/weekly drops would reward players who have consistent friendly behavior, while other players with less of such behavior will know due to that they didn't get a reward and try harder to get one.
Um, it's supposed to be hard as hell to climb back up in Honor after being toxic. You've hurt your progression and you have to have no offenses for a while for it to recover. It shouldn't be easy if you've been toxic. You're making amends for being a negative influence on the community. If you're not toxic in the first place, it's surprisingly not a problem. AS for Daily/weekly drops, I don't have an opinion.
ODiiiiiN (NA)
: See this is the problem with the reporting system.. people use it as a tool to fuck with people they dont like. They dont even care that theyre being flamed, they just know they can get people banned if they have enough people on their side. Here you see a guy who was probably being flamed first which is another problem with the reviewing. You only see what HE said.. nothing that the "Lee" guy or anybody said to him. Which was most likely tilting. With that said he tilted and went off talking a bunch of shit himself. Yea dude you said enough to get chat restricted at least, like I have done myself many times. But the problem is that the system is pro-mob, as in if enough people come together to click that report on you, it doesnt matter if they were a premade and they incited you all game until u finally exploded. You're the only one getting the penalty because its all run by an automated bot. (no matter what the riot reps and goons say, the bot runs the show and the real riot rep that reviews it, IF you decide to challenge it, only sees what you wrote and could give two fucks about what else was said in the chat.) Its like being teased on the street by a couple of vandals and then when u finally decide to knock one of them out, you're the bad guy. ps. Asking people to repeatedly "report that guy" usually will get people to want to report you. Unless the dude ure talking about is clearly an Ahoe.
Legit, it doesn't matter what the other person said to instigate the OP flaming. They're not the ones under review in this particular instance, the OP is. If the OP and/or anyone else reported the Lee, he'll be getting reviewed as well and if he's on his final warning as the OP was, he'll get perma-banned too. And I disagree with your example given. The vandals are breaking the law, but knocking one of them out is assault, which is still breaking the law. Two wrongs don't make a right. We've all heard that before. It doesn't matter who "struck" first, striking is reportable, and if you've already been given warnings, you should just mute and move on. Also, banning a champion that a player is hovering is not griefing, unless they clearly state it in an obvious way. As has been said many times here, Bans > Picks
: Bring Back the Tribunal PLEASE!
Sounds like another case of, "Reporting them doesn't feel good enough so I want to exact some of my own vindictive justice." Report the people that int and grief and are toxic. I made a post about it a few days ago. There are tens of millions of players, a vast majority of which are in Bronze, Silver, and Gold and you might play with a handful of them a day, reporting maybe 1 or 2. You're not going to see the results of the reports you make and the punishments being doled out over night. Any changes that would be seen would take place _**gradually**_ over _**months**_, and only assuming that we're (the community as a whole) using the reporting system _**properly**_, and not just to spite someone that you disagreed with or legitimately had a bad game.
: No 7 day ban though.
Shouldn't this be even more of a warning? If they skip a step in their punishment system that should be a big red flag. "Hey, that's a jump in the strike system, I just got 2 instead of 1, maybe I should calm the fuck down." I don't know, seems logical to me.
Aedrynn (NA)
: I literally try my best to stay out of chat for this reason. You can literally tell someone hey "not ganking enough" or something stupid to tilt them and supposedly it's considered a bannable offense. Easily some of the loosest chat rules in any game I have ever played.
Not true, because I'm reported almost every day for being "toxic" for the same shit, and I haven't received anything. It's when you escalate to telling someone they're an idiot, or they're trash, or bad at the game, or any of the other toxic, shitty things people like to tell their fellow team-mates when they make a mistake. It's a rare thing for me to see someone own up to their mistakes in League, in mid Gold ELO. Most of them point fingers at what somebody else is either doing or not doing that lead to their death. I see that it's also true with people complaining about their bans after spending some time here. It's always why THIS is unfair and arguing that the current offense wasn't severe enough to warrant a perma-ban. It's a strike system, as simple as that. No different with being late at work for example. You can be half an hour late every time before, but if you work up to being fired on your next offense and you're 5 minutes late, you're still late and you're still fired. Best example I could come up with on the fly. Doesn't matter if it's the least "severe" occurrence of them all. It's still against the rules and you were on your last strike.
Aedrynn (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EpImwNP0,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-15T21:44:18.888+0000) > > Uhhhhh you were clearly trash talking and throwing insults practically all of those 2 games. Pretty obvious you weren&#x27;t &quot;just defending myself&quot; This is what I hate about the ban system when sending reasons. They do not show the other persons chat and what they say. The other group that were in the game (I was playing too) were flinging them around as well and most of these comments were a reply to those comments as well.
It literally doesn't matter what THEY said when YOU'RE banned. Speaking generally of course. Not addressing that at you specifically. Bottom line, OP got chat restrictions and a 7 day and 14 ban as warnings prior to the perma-ban. Any and all of those should have been red flags alerting OP to just letting shit like this go.
: I was just replying to their chat, and they left. Riot Games is clearly promoting toxic behavior by allowing an automated system that will ban anyone with no context. Permabans should be handed out by humans. Not a Robot.
The obvious response was to mute them and not say anything. How many warnings do you need m8?
: > [{quoted}](name=Demon DARK Wolf,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=s3JxFZM4,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-12-13T09:28:26.096+0000) > > If you&#x27;re worried about the time played, money and the energy you&#x27;ve put into the account, just don&#x27;t say anything in chat, and if you do, be nicer about it, or hell, constructive. Rules are rules m8, that&#x27;s the way the cookie crumbles. You&#x27;re at 2 week so the situation can be salvaged. If there&#x27;s someone flaming or being an ass, just mute them and move on. If they int, work around it if you can. Losses happen. Dozens of these posts come in every day. We&#x27;ve ALL dealt with the shit. Yes it&#x27;s annoying. However, doing the same shit they&#x27;re doing isn&#x27;t a solution. you're legit straw manning an argument with a holier than thou position and not even considering that maybe money time and energy are something to consider in regards to a perma, loads of people have dumped as i said previously a shit ton of money and time on this game. I dont think its fair to just get jumped to 2 weeks into a perma for minor offences.
Hmmm, I feel like the chat restrictions that precede the 7 day and then the 14 day ban should be warning enough, both of which should also serve as warnings. Would you rather them add more bans? A 30 day ban? Then 3 month ban and a 6 month ban? How many warnings that your behavior is negative and frowned upon do you need before a severe punishment is applicable? Playing League of Legends is free. You CHOOSE to pay for skins and potentially even champions. If you make that choice and then also choose to act in a way that risks the money you've invested to be lost, even after being given numerous warnings, I feel like that's your fault and I don't really sympathize. It's not likely that we'll see eye to eye on this but if you'd like to continue discussing it, feel free to respond.
: 10 points for careful propaganda, but -5 points for lack of logic. However, I'm sure Riot approves, regardless of how silly and flawed your point is.
Lack of logic, silly and flawed. Please elaborate. This is a discussion post after all.
Skarsgard (EUNE)
: Mate go in that game and see what happened. Touching farm and when creeps are low, only Q them. I said don't do that, he continued. Im not a idiot.
**you're not _an_ idiot.
: Its not hard to gain honor. Honor isn't really reflective of setting an example. I can not type and win games, or make a good play and flash some emojis and i might get some honors. I've fallen out of honors twice for typing too much. Both games I was in a great mood, got trolled, made a sarcastic comment or said something lamenting about trolls and got restricted/reset. That's 3 times I've climbed honor ranks since its been implemented. The less I communicate, the higher honors I get on average. So here's what I see: Its hardly incentive- you can lose it arbitrarily to chat even if your in game actions are always honorable (IE not giving up, not taking cs, not trolling). Minus the whole debate about whether or not I deserved to lose the honors in the first place, the fact I did lose and earned it back multiple times made it about as impactful as the new rank armor. Its hardly deterrent- you don't miss out on much when you're dishonorable. Key fragments? Ok. Chests? You can only get 1 per S per Champ per _Season_. You still get capsules for leveling up (I think) but even then its random, contains almost always champs, and if you have a big/full roster its a meaningless thing anyway. Can't type that much? Ok. Chat isn't what truly ruins a game so what changed? Ah, I see, I'm just on temporary thin ice and the robot is looking for me to say bad things---- good rewards/punishment system.
Was gaining honor ever supposed to be difficult? Wasn't it added as a means to encourage, if even slightly, better behavior? Maybe you've had a different experience, but most of the people I've ran into with high honor levels were pretty good people.
: > it's a reward system for good behavior as decided by your peers. This line says it all. Get off your high horse, those people are my teammates, not my peers. LMFAO. And your just randomly asuming I dont play support champs in that last bit btw... This says alot more about you then it does about me. M7 Zyra btw and own all support champs just so I could try them all. The amount of stuff wrong in your reply is actually astonishing.
I didn't assume anything about you. I made suggestions based on the scenarios you presented. Peer is defined as a person of the same rank or kind. That's exactly what your teammates are. High horse? Okay. Please point out more wrong things.
: > [{quoted}](name=Demon DARK Wolf,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=rfcWmkWu,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2018-12-13T18:37:32.577+0000) > > You wonder if it&#x27;s working despite the dozen or so complaint posts about bans and restrictions that fill this forum every day? Sounds like you just want the personal satisfaction of knowing that the spite-filled report you submitted hit its mark man. I understand that feeling but the system isn&#x27;t there for your personal gratification of checking names off a list. Woah there buddy, you are far off the mark there, Sona don't do spite. You miss the point of what I typed in its whole with the two examples I listed. One of them high tier trolled but didn't type about it, no instant feedback after report. One of them low tier trolled BUT TYPED IT OUT, instant feedback. That puts me under the impression that A) did not get punished because they didn't physically admit what they were doing while the other one did because they DID admit it. Also while I suspect the automated punishment system isn't always so automated.
Is it instant feedback? Or did you coincidentally receive feedback from a previous report that happens to come in after another report has been made for another incident? There's no way for you to know as it doesn't give you the name of the summoner that you receive feedback for. The point that I'm ultimately making is that you don't need "instant feedback" for the system to be working. Also, as I mentioned, the system isn't perfect, I'm not, nor did I suggest that it is. Nor, I know, did you accuse me of such. I've noticed that you seem to have a bone to pick with the reporting system because you don't miss a chance to speak against it. It's interesting that Hamentasch mentioned witch-hunting because I almost said that instead of "checking names off a list." Spiteful reports or not, the only reason you'd need instant feedback is for the gratification that it would bring you (and I'm not saying _you_ specifically, I'm speaking generally). Arguably of course, seeking that kind of gratification is indicative of a vindictiveness which, of course, is pretty damn similar to spite. That's just my opinion though. Edit: Also, I didn't mean for it to sound like I was attacking or coming at you. I was at work and not really worried about the way I worded the replies I was sending so that I could get my point across as clearly and quickly as possible. Positive vibes!{{sticker:vlad-salute}}
: Well, I kind of expect insta punishes and insta feedback messages for a lot of players I have dealt with but don't end up seeing (Cuz they say you won't see it every time) which, given the knowledge that you won't always know if they are punished, makes one wonder if the system is working or not. Autofilled support wanting to force self into another role, stealing jungles golem 100% on purpose, then trying to take all farm from ADC? Reported, no instant feedback, question system. Support who is taking your farm then goes out of their way To Type Out that they were taking your farm to punish you for not taking flash? Reported, instant feedback shortly after. I'm steadily of the notion now that some of these feedbacks might not be so automated. Sometimes I see the insta feedback a few minutes later, sometimes an hour later.
You wonder if it's working despite the dozen or so complaint posts about bans and restrictions that fill this forum every day? Sounds like you just want the personal satisfaction of knowing that the spite-filled report you submitted hit its mark man. I understand that feeling but the system isn't there for your personal gratification of checking names off a list.
: The honor system that you seem to praise has one big problem in the sence that it requires people to actually use it and use it in such a way that the right person gets the honor for the right thing, which is often not the case. Lmao, first of all; People sometimes dont even honor people that get forced out of lane. Or get bullied any other way by another person. Hell, people barely stand up for other teammembers when others are being an dick. And second of all, if good behaviour was always rewarded then why do you think that there is a saying that goes ''no good deed goes unpunished?'' Which is exactly the point in my original post, I feel like sometimes ACTUALL tilt proof behaviour doesnt get rewarded enough, because as you said your at the mercy of your teammates. So if your one of those people that gets forced out of lane by an autofilled support griefer but you do the ''big man'' thing and buy an support item and make your way bot.. But end up losing the game or dissapointing your ADC (lose lane with one and their generally salty af) you are very likely to not even get the honor. ^----Personal experience; And I can honestly say that it really blows when you end such a sucky game and dont even get an honor. Like I actually just didnt play anymore for the rest of the day. Plus sometimes people just randomly forget, and the thing is. People generally remember the good things alot less then the bad. Or their premades and dont give a hoot.
I'm not praising it, I'm saying g it's a reward system for good behavior as decided by your peers. And if you feel like it's not used, it's probably because you're not setting an example, which is what those accommodations that your allies can provide you represent. I get honored almost every game and even if I'm not, someone on my team typically is. It's used plenty. Typically it's games filled with spite and animosity that you'll see players report instead of honoring someone just to rub salt in the wound of a shitty game and yeah, that sucks. As for your scenario about being auto fill as support, if that's happening in ranked, yeah, why would you be honored if you didn't do well? You're expected to understand a handful of support champions in ranked so that you can perform the roll when you get autofill because short of being a support main, it IS going to happen. So instead of complaining g about it when it does, take a few of the current meta supports into Normals and get some practice, look up a guide. I'd recommend Leona and Alistar if it's something you struggle with. Both have simple enough kits and provide a lot of utility for your team when played well. If the scenario occurred in a Normal match, it's my personally opinion that its not alk that pressing.
: Even tho inting and griefing is annoying and is not attacking other players , It still makes the equal ammonts of lost games as do toxic players ? Or am I wrong ? Anyways , thank you for your advice.
Think about it. Inting and griefing negatively impacts the game, yes. Insulting players and being toxic is harassment on the player and typically results in retorts which ALSO negatively impacts the game. Just because what others say might not bother you that much doesn't mean that what you say doesn't bother other people. Try a few deep breaths when you get heated. Let your stomach expand as fully as you can. Two or three of these and time between frustrating games. Listen to chill music, or even comedy, that helped me a lot too, having reasons to laugh.
: > [{quoted}](name=Demon DARK Wolf,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=08q4Yg3n,comment-id=0006000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-13T15:39:35.399+0000) > > Nah, again, wrong mentality. Sure bud. But ill keep having the mentality that works for me and wins me more games.
You don't have to be mean and flame to be serious about winning the game. It's clear we don't see eye-to-eye o. This and that's fine, i just feel like you're confusing winning games with being right. You're experience is clearly different than mine, but flaming and being an ass typically breaks the teams moral and willingness to try more often than it helps it in mine. You'll do you, and I'll do me, but you're way runs the risk of you losing the account down the road if people get sick of that constructive flaming you seem proud of.
: I want to improve , help me out .
Because inting oe griefing is annoying but at least you aren't attacking the other players. If you've gotten multiple accounts banned, I'd suggest turning off all chat and muting anyone that starts to flame or talk shit. The rest is on you.
: My main problem with the system isnt the lack of messages that I recieve from reports I send in. The biggest problem with the system I have is this; ALL the time people are -cussing at echother -flaming, inting, -intentionally dying, -purposly banning champions that you want to play, -you can never say your trying an new champion before you locked them in or they will ban it (in normal modes), -you cant tell someone your not allowing them to trade lanes or they will grief and ban the champ you wanted to play, -if your in the jungle role they'll follow you around the map trying to steal your camps, -if you play an champion like Zyra mid people that got autofilled support grief and try to force you out of your midlane so you have to support, -Telling you your useless for not being able to burst down an fully itimized tank that went the damage source you main. I'm not even joking when I'm saying that this is just a short list of some of the things I have seen, or been a ''victim'' of in the last week or two. The main problem here being that the system doesnt seem to reward me for staying tiltproof while these things happen. And even people with a thick skin only can take so much. Yet when I finally snap and call someone an braindead retard for thinking I can burst down an fully itimized tank that went full MR and he happens to have a friend on the team who also reports me I am still the one getting the bad end of the stick, even though I stayed tiltroof WAY more then I got tilted. I dont know if I'm explaining my point correctly but sometimes it feels like the system misses out on the ''good'' things that I have done while still punishing me for the bad things. Because games in which people were toxic carry over to the next games while good behaviour doesnt, and if that toxisity builds up people eventually get so sick of it that they act out.
Also, we all have bad games. I get reported for "inting" or "griefing" almost every day. I've yet to receive even a warning.
: > [{quoted}](name=Demon DARK Wolf,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=08q4Yg3n,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2018-12-13T04:57:50.135+0000) > > Nah dude, you&#x27;ve got the wrong mentality here. > > Instead of being &quot;verbally toxic&quot; how about trying to be constructive and helpful, or just not saying anything. No I think my mentality is fine. At least my team can see that im serious about them lowering my chances of winning a game. Sometimes I like putting pressure on my teammates so they can do better. Being nice never gets me anywhere, they just go and make the same mistakes over again becuase they think noone will care too much. I've seen some instances where my flame motivated a player to try harder so they can prove me wrong. Think of it like Gordon Ramsey and military generals. They both yell the shit out of people and spew insults. But do you see the recipients getting on a mental breakdown or something? No, because they are expected to have a thick skin and to do good under pressure, and to aknlowdege that someone is serious about them fucking up. Gordon Ramsey and military generals yell to *make* them do better to accomplish their goals. Some of my teammates take criticism well actually. Besides, if they really didn't want to see my flame they can mute or ignore me. In my experience, being mean is better than being nice because your team knows that your serious about winning the game, and that you won't tolerate silly mistakes.
Nah, again, wrong mentality. The examples you provided aren't similar situations to team cooperation on the Rift. Each of us players are equal. One isn't higher than the other. One isn't head chef or general. None of us work for or serve the other, we work TOGETHER. It's possible to be constructive without being toxic and flaming.
: My main problem with the system isnt the lack of messages that I recieve from reports I send in. The biggest problem with the system I have is this; ALL the time people are -cussing at echother -flaming, inting, -intentionally dying, -purposly banning champions that you want to play, -you can never say your trying an new champion before you locked them in or they will ban it (in normal modes), -you cant tell someone your not allowing them to trade lanes or they will grief and ban the champ you wanted to play, -if your in the jungle role they'll follow you around the map trying to steal your camps, -if you play an champion like Zyra mid people that got autofilled support grief and try to force you out of your midlane so you have to support, -Telling you your useless for not being able to burst down an fully itimized tank that went the damage source you main. I'm not even joking when I'm saying that this is just a short list of some of the things I have seen, or been a ''victim'' of in the last week or two. The main problem here being that the system doesnt seem to reward me for staying tiltproof while these things happen. And even people with a thick skin only can take so much. Yet when I finally snap and call someone an braindead retard for thinking I can burst down an fully itimized tank that went full MR and he happens to have a friend on the team who also reports me I am still the one getting the bad end of the stick, even though I stayed tiltroof WAY more then I got tilted. I dont know if I'm explaining my point correctly but sometimes it feels like the system misses out on the ''good'' things that I have done while still punishing me for the bad things. Because games in which people were toxic carry over to the next games while good behaviour doesnt, and if that toxisity builds up people eventually get so sick of it that they act out.
You're not rewarded for good beahvior? What's Honor then? Just as the community will let you know if you're being negative with reports, the community will also let you know if you're behavior has been exemplary with Honor.
: you're right words are very powerful. But when they are anonymous insults about a video game just trying to troll you. They definitely lose a bit of the power ya know what i mean? i only said the homophobic comment after he described raping me and he threw homophobia around. I understand this warrants nothing but ehh things happen and i only insinuated being gay was bad which in my opinion is quite minor.
Homie, that's **you're **nopinion. For most people, those words don't lose their power. In some cases, they **gain** power, because they're being told the same shit people in their actual god-damned lives tell them, shit that at times, they probably tell themselves, and then they hear that shit online from a complete stranger while they're trying to enjoy themselves a bit and relax? When I see all of this toxicity posted on here and people asking how it's fair that they got perma-banned, I don't think they realize (or in some cases even care) about the effect that their words can truly have on a person. I've had to talk a friend into living, into **NOT** committing suicide over similar shit and that's not fucking cool. At all. You might think that's an extreme case, but it only takes one fucking time for it to be too much. ** One. **
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