: I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not
Dead serious. There are plenty of ways to counter it. Taric just got banned in those games because the other team did not want to deal with it...not because it was over powered.
gdogwow (NA)
: I disagree with you
Antenora (EUW)
: Sona could take a nerf and be perfectly fine. She's been sitting at a disgustingly high win rate for a long time now. _Speaking as a 662k Sona_
No, sona is fine as is. She is hard counter but so many champs in the bot lane.
: A mute button is to try and salvage a game already ruined by toxicity. Chat related punishments are to make sure no one else has a game ruined by toxicity.
Games are not ruined by toxicity...they are ruined by bad players. The sooner riot realizes that...the better the player experience will be.
Rioter Comments
Broporo (NA)
: Your account doesn't seem to be banned, but there does look to be some rather fishy stuff going on that might have been someone who was able to hack your account. Reach out to our account recovery team in a [**ticket**](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) and they'll be able to verify and get you back into the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Broporo,realm=NA,application-id=osqw6G4M,discussion-id=fyyRGynE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-09-26T03:59:07.432+0000) > > Your account doesn't seem to be banned, but there does look to be some rather fishy stuff going on that might have been someone who was able to hack your account. Reach out to our account recovery team in a [**ticket**](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) and they'll be able to verify and get you back into the game. It says it is banned when i try to log in. I have an open ticket now so hopefully i can get my account back, thank you.
  Rioter Comments
: Can we just revert the entire Malzahar "rework"?
Malz is perma banned in lcs...u can still malz support....
: Placement Matches
where did you place at the end of last season?
: > [{quoted}](name=Dionesus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EL05PYfT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-04-16T14:21:17.597+0000) > > reduce slow on his ult by .25 seconds. alright > [{quoted}](name=Dionesus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EL05PYfT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-04-16T14:21:17.597+0000) > >So basically jhin wasn't nerfed at all. how exactly logic is used in your brain? it's way harder to hit with jhin ult now, are you even playing jhin? > [{quoted}](name=Dionesus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EL05PYfT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-04-16T14:21:17.597+0000) >riot didn't nerf him you just listed above a nerf to jhin > [{quoted}](name=Dionesus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EL05PYfT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-04-16T14:21:17.597+0000) > >Lulu is meta because she counters burst damage. she counters everything, and enable everything she does everything with that bullshit overloaded kit, the most overloaded kit of every enchenters stop lying to yourself > [{quoted}](name=Dionesus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EL05PYfT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-04-16T14:21:17.597+0000) > > Using winrates doesn't prove things are disgusting or op cuz sona has had the top 5 winrates in the GAME for all of season 7. Sona doesn't have a disgusting ban rate that hides how lulu had 30% pick rate before > [{quoted}](name=Dionesus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EL05PYfT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-04-16T14:21:17.597+0000) > >She is sitting at 55% on lolking. quiet , lolking is not as reliable as league of graph, sona doesn't have 55% win rate above plat, she has 53% and has a very small pick rate (6%) http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/sona/platinum learn your facts before posting shit
The nerf to jhins ult was NOT the reason why he fell off as tip tier. It was the fact the lethality items were nerf and other items were buff. Plz read patch notes. Also...you know that the slow on his ult is irrelevant when you you have other champs with slows and other forms of cc. It's not a 1v1 game, son. Also I said sonas winrate in the whole game...not plat+. Plz learn to read...kiddo. lol On championgg, lulu has 51% win rate and on opgg she has 51% again. Sona has 53% win rate...like you said. You ban lulu cuz you don't know how to deal with her...not cuz she is op. Get good bro.
: "the meta favors lulu, therefore she doesn't need a nerf"
Umm riot barely nerfed jhin. All they did was reduce slow on his ult by .25 seconds. So basically jhin wasn't nerfed at all. They nerf lethality and buffed botk and that's why jhin semi fell off...not cuz he was nerf ed. And good thing riot didn't nerf him after making the item changes cuz he would be complete garbage now. Lulu is meta because she counters burst damage. Using winrates doesn't prove things are disgusting or op cuz sona has had the top 5 winrates in the GAME for all of season 7. She is sitting at 55% on lolking. So plz stop. You don't even suggest what to nerf. Plz stop posting cuz you don't contribute to lol at all.
Raoul (EUW)
: Taric is the definition of an Ultimate Bot...
Yeah...I wish they had made him into a juggernaut. I miss old taric tho.
: Spamming masteries should be rated as a higher offense
I've never seen so many sensitive people in my life! If you allow people you don't even know affect you this much emotionally...you need help...
Starraka (NA)
: Inconsistencies with Soraka
what kayle update are you talking?
Ramen226 (NA)
: You actually just completely ignored the question. Why are we allowed to mute text, and not mute pings, if communication is a necessity? Why should they be allowed to abuse a line of communication when they aren't using it to actually communicate helpful information? And insulting people for no reason doesn't get you anywhere or make your argument any more valid.
The title to this post...is why can't you mute pings. I said because you need some basic form of communication. If that isn't good enough for you...I don't know what to say. I've never had someone spam ping me...so I can't relate. Also...I wasn't insulting you. I was just stating what you were acting like. There is a difference.
: Best ADC/Support pairings?
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Ramen226 (NA)
: SO then why are we allowed to mute text chat? Communication is a big part of winning? Doesn't hold up.
thats why pings cant be muted...because communication is key. Pings are the basic form of communication in this game. you dont even need to speak the same language and you can still convey when you want. you mute that because your a baby...and the other team has a higher chance of winning automatically.
: not anymore no. prior to rework he easily could with an ult that scaled 130% with AP and other high scalings.
Well...don't make false statements about him locking you down and killing you. It only makes you look dumb.
Ramen226 (NA)
: So basically you don;t have any reason why there shouldn't be a mute ping option. Dude if you don't have actual reasons and you're only here to insult people then you need to get a life lmao. Nobody gives a fuck about how you're such a man or whatever the fuck. If you don't find people spamming pings to be at least a little annoying, cool. This post isn't for you then. But for some unknown reason you felt the need to go out of your way and talk shit. Get a life my guy and don't put other people down just for the sake of it. You have a real reason why a ping mute button seriously isn't a good idea that hit me with it. If not then at least realize why posting something like what you said at the beginning helps no one and doesn't contribute to the discussion at all.
Here I have a reason for you. If you mute the chat and the pings...then there's no way for that player to communicate with you. Communication is a big part of winning in this game and you just hurt your percentage of winning when you want to mute everyone because you can't handle people.
: you can run/flash away from Darius in a 1v1 setting. Malzahar just locks you down and kills you.
Malz can't 100 percent anyone. I think you are just bad lol
Ramen226 (NA)
: 1st: Bullshit 2nd: Of course they harass in different ways that's not the point, I'm saying they're both forms of harassment. And pings can do things that text can't. Like actually inhibiting your ability to play because there are question marks blocking the creeps hp bar, or you can't hear the audio queues to dodge abilities. Saying they harass ion different ways doesn't actually negate the argument because I in fact agree with you. You can't call someone a %%%got with pings. But you can still get your opinion across. 3rd: That has never been mentioned in this entire post and is completely irrelevant. The point is to bring up that we can't mute pings even though it's really more distracting than text. When it's cold outside you put on a jacket. By manning up and muting them instead of engaging in their behavior. I can't do that with pings. And just in case you plan on defending any of your irrelevant points: Almost all of those can't be applied to why we shouldn't mute text. "I've never muted anyone so you shouldn't have to either" 2nd is a good one although it's not a good excuse to why we shouldn't be able to "Riot has no intention of letting us mute the other players, so you should just drop it." "When it's cold outside you put on a jacket. you need to put on your 'jacket' and move on with life." But when we use them in reference with muting text it doesn't make sense or doesn't sound valid. We can mute players for abusive text, we should be allowed to mute pings that are being abused. ps: to better address your 2nd point, that only makes sense if you want to argue that the ONLY reason we allow text mute is because of those specific behaviors and we both know that's bullshit because we can report players for general harassment AND bigoted harassment.
Look bro...if muting pings helps you deal with LOL players...sure why not. I'm not gonna sit here and argue why you can't handle pings...that's your problem. You and I are both presented with the same problem every time we play LOL, but we both want to deal with it in very different ways. I changed from within and don't need riot to change anything. While, you don't want to change and want riot to step in. Im sorry but I will never choose to be reliant on anything or anyone if I don't have to. It seems you don't mind. People like you will always be handicapped compared to people like me because you require the assistance of others. I really don't want you to be like that...I want you to be better then...but hey, to each their own. Also, that isn't BS. I've never muted anyone ever. People I've never met in real life will never have that much emotional controlled over me and they shouldn't over you either.
dominusx (EUNE)
: Can we kill off mage support completely?
Plz stop whining about diversity.
Ramen226 (NA)
: Outstanding argument tbh. But you made the assumption that its a knee jerk reaction. Getting tired of being spam pinged by random asshole for 2 years is not knee jerk. And you shouldn't shut down an argument about a problem simply because I'm pointing it out. Instead in your original comment you make fun of me and say I'm a baby simply because I'm pointing out the problem. Did my post come across as me being pissed about the problem? Absolutely. But that doesn't make the argument itself false just because I'm mad about it and in doing so you're ignoring the argument itself and attacking me personally, which doesn't answer the underlying question: Why can't I mute pings? The most frustrating point about this is that any argument that can be made in favor of muting the text, can doubly be made about muting pings. And no matter who you are you've muted at least one person that was being a dick in chat. To address your closing statement, the discussion isn't* about my own ability to ignore pings but rather that pings are A: a distraction to the player to the receiving player when abused, and B) A tool given to the toxic that enables them to frustrate other players. These reasons alone are enough for riot to implement a "ping mute" system allowing the players to take control away from the abuser. It's great that you learned to control frustration when it comes to ping abuse, but at the same time it shouldn't be a burden forced onto the player because "reasons." I still just want a reason why we aren't allowed to mute pings when it would only be beneficial.
1st...I've never muted anyone in any game I have ever played in my entire life (I just turned 33 years old). I have never seen the need for it. I have been playing LOL since March 2010 and I played WOW for 8 years before stopping in late 2013. The amount of people I have played online games with is insane. 2nd...text and pinging are very different. You can't be racist with a ping. You can't tell someone to kill themselves with a ping. You can't tell someone that they hope their parents get cancer. So no...you can not make the same argument for both. 3rd...clearly as of right now, riot doesn't see the need for muting pings. So maybe you should change your mind set. When it is cold outside...you don't scream at the weather expecting it to get warmer. You just put a jacket on and move on with life. Bro...just put your "jacket" on and keep it moving. This is just a game...no need to get worked up. Real life has way more complex things to get worked up about.
: your match history claims that some bias might be in order :)
I don't play janna. I do love lulu...I'll give you that but I'd rather buffs for other supports instead of nerfs on champs you perceive as op.
Ramen226 (NA)
: It's more because it's a distraction. Imagine your computer has a virus and you're writing an essay. Ads are constantly popping up. They don't help you write the essay so they shouldn't be there. The same applies for muting pings. It doesn't help anyone when you put the "?" down on a dead body. Although you just seem like someone to do that so I don't expect you to form a coherent thought to articulate your position. :)
The problem lies in which everyone who plays this game always wants to complain about something. Now instead of looking within to see what to change...they look outward. With me, I trained myself to not be affected by people who spam pings or toxic people in general. At 1st it bothered, but instead of going to the forums to whine...I told myself I can't be effective by a scrub I don't even know. I'm not going to allow this bum to have emotional controll over me, because I am stronger then that. But for whatever reason...your brain doesn't work like that. Your knee jerk reaction is to come to the forums and whine to riot because you don't have enough emotional strong and/or focus to handle a ping from a person you don't even know and will probably never play with again. Remember the easiest thing to change in your life is yourself. If you focus on yourself...you will be a far better person then the people around you.
: List of champs who need nerfs ASAP
Lulu and Janna do not need nerfs...omg.
: It doesnt matter that much to me like i love playing alot of other champs like shaco or darius or draven i just also enjoy the fact that i can relate to them besides how the play there is nothing wrong with that also i enjoy playing zed yas kat
No...there is something wrong with that. Your skin color matters too much to you. The only thing that matters is the type of person you are.
Ramen226 (NA)
Omg...so many babies play this game. I can't believe your feelings get hurt over pings...grown up.
qqpp (NA)
: Ideas for fixing Lulu
: When is a new black champ gonna get made
Your skin color matters too much to you. Lol the I relate to champs is how they play...not how they look.
zero356 (NA)
All sona needs is to increase her AA by 50, change her q to only atk one person so we can increase the damage on it, and add a 1 sec root on her power chord e. The fact that she needs ap to kinda scale is not her prob. The problem is how gold income works for supports and/or how the good support items don't have ap on them. She should definitely be the most aggressive out of all the enchantresses so she has a niche.
: the "conventional" definition of carrying is skewed real carrying isn't just about dealing damage and getting kills, it's about having a high enough impact to turn around a bad but salvageable game
I understand what you are saying but the level of "carry" a support is capable of is significantly lower then other roles. I'm sorry but that is a just a fact. Plus you need to still rely on your teamates more then other roles.
: Are we REALLY still arguing about supports not being able to carry a game?
Having high impact is not the same as carrying. Plz stop. And if carrying as support was so easy...then apdo would play the role to climb, but he doesn't.
: support's dont HAVE an imcome disparity... they haven't since season 4.. they have an EXP disparity. we get plenty of gold.. just not exp...
What are you taking about? Lol we have disparity in both. When was the last time you check the charts after a game? Lol
Shahamut (NA)
: You have an interesting understanding of the word "deserve" friend. By what authority do you claim the right to say that if someone sucks they "deserve" to be told so? You speak as though you never have bad games. "Going off on a kid"- implying that you are not one? I see something very childish about getting pissed off enough to yell at someone over a video game. If you are not a kid, what kind of example have you now just set for them? You are actually teaching them to be what you are accusing them of being. Strange. Seems to me, that if you are flaming people in chat, then you DESERVE, as per RIOT rules and regulations, to be reported and punished. Just saying... :/
Well I mean people deserve the truth and if you are 1-11...the truth is that you suck. Plz don't defend people that don't deserve to be defended. If some one tells you that you suck and you played poorly...plz just keep your mouth shut and take it. For every action, there is a reaction. If you don't like the reaction...plz stop doing the action. It's quite simply.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dabrick01,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Me0sWorB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-03-21T18:17:14.099+0000) > > She isn't broken. All of the people she counters are. > Dafuq do you mean by countering? lulu doesn't counter anything Lulu counters as much as thresh, she's a generalist picked in every single situations her spells can fit to offense, defense in both laning phase and teamfight this makes her fitting with ANY classes in the game no exceptions thresh on the opposite doesn't offer as much offensive power as her, his hook is the only thing that can engage a fight and it's telegraphed af I play a lot of Darius botlane, and thresh is one of the worst support for me Lulu on the other hand has attack speed steroid+a fcking ton of movement speed+ slow+ a persistant slow aura around me and bonus hp, on-hit bonus damage Lulu doesn't counter specific champions, she counters every champion in the game, or tell me which champion isn't countered by lulu
Ummm she counters burst champs. I literally saw yesterday, doublelift (as Kog maw with lulu support) get bodied by a cassiopeia. Lulu doesn't help with dps.
Rioter Comments
Fegone (NA)
: Poster reported Ashe. Ashe got most likely punished and won't play any more (at least for two weeks if only temp. ban). Poster didn't have to change himself in order to change the environment he's playing in. Poster wins.
2 things...you didnt change the environment. lol if you thing that, you give yourself to much credit. 2nd, you have no idea if he got banned. if you dont see that you need to grow just a lil stronger emotionally...i dont know what to tell. they will always be on "ashe" in the world...you just need to deal with it better.
: > They offer maybe one type of hard CC / utility for their team and offer 0 defensive/heal/shield options for their ADC. They are not playing anything or with any intention to support their team, especially the ADC during the laning phase. That is the role of a SUPPORT. It is not a carry role. Sure you could always possibly get fed and carry, but that is not one of the main goals for that role.
I understand what you are saying but there is a reason malz and zyra are still pick ban in pro play. They bring something valuable to the table. And you are completely wrong about adc and laning phase. Adcs have weak every games and many of these ap carry supports have high base damage. Getting your adc ahead with setting up kills (which is easier for ap supports) is Huge during laning phase. You don't really understand the meaning of support if you think heals and shields are required for support.
RallerenP (EUW)
: Humans learn social perspective at about the age of 5. You, and some others, are in the small percentage that completely skipped this. You cannot grasp the idea that many others have different lives and different experiences, than you. You cannot cope with the reality that just because you are not affected by something, doesn't mean no one else is. A fact that should be clear from the astounding amount of opposition you stand against. I understand that you may not be able to internalize this knowledge completely, as it does not lign up perfectly with the experiences you have had in your own life, but I do wish you the best of luck in the future if you do decide to try.
I am in no way, shape, or form saying what this ashe said is ok...because it is not. The problem I have is with people's sensitivity. This poster is soooooo effected by an individual he doesn't even know. That's a problem. Not only was he effected, he also took time out to write this post. More and more I've noticed that people never look at themselves and see what they can do to improve. All I see is people blaming others and telling others they need to change. Now does this ashe need to change...of course. But the only person you can change in your life...is yourself. Poster needs to grow a thick skin and grow emotionally stronger if he wants to continue interacting with other human beings.
Fegone (NA)
: After game chat - report?
Stop being a baby...it's only words....
Tupaco (NA)
: So to everyone complaining about mage supports
Yea...the Mage support complaints are so dumb.
: Mage supports are just mid lane carry champions who do not want to support but be an actual carry. They offer maybe one type of hard CC / utility for their team and offer 0 defensive/heal/shield options for their ADC.
I don't see the problem. Plz explain
: No one likes support because you can't carry from support
Doaenel (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Calabok,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mEUvgbMV,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-03-12T18:47:22.320+0000) > > there is no issue. get real You dont understand league and what it is meant to represent if you think this, there are many huge issues
Umm I think you don't understand league if you feel that way. A support is whatever works with low golda and whatever team needs. Plz stop with this posts. Thx
Doaenel (NA)
: Solution To The Mage Support Issue!
Mage support isn't a problem...
: Gold really should not be the issue for a champion that is meant to support.
> [{quoted}](name=Ravenhale,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jQRr1Anq,comment-id=00060001,timestamp=2017-03-10T17:49:56.138+0000) > > Gold really should not be the issue for a champion that is meant to support. I don't think you understood my post. I'm basically saying that maybe the low income aspect of supports should be changed. So champions that require more gold can come online as support and support items can be even better.
: Standing behind ADC as support should be reportable
: Don't play Sona. She's just a shitty excuse for Nami's shadow. Sona's been the weakest support in this game since patch 4.13, play Nami, Bard, Soraka, Annie, hell even Kayle and Taric perform better than Sona. Sona has no winning matchups and all 150 other champions in this game are more viable in the support role than her. Do yourself and your teammates a favor. Picking Sona will get you nothing, but verbal abuse and intentional feeding reports.
What are you talking about lololol? If sona has no winning matches...why does she have the highest winrate in the game? Plz don't give bad advice. Going ap sona support got me outta bronze 2 times. Getting kills on nami is not good for team...getting kills on sona can carry your team. Sona is a late Game monster...nami isn't.
: Going to write a book of replies about Sona to Riot Fearless
I am a rank 7 sona, however I am only silver 4-5. I definitely underst and where you are coming from but I do love the way sona works. I don't think the problem is sona, but the way supports are forced to be effective with low gold. Ap sona is a hyper carry support that works wonders with her burst and 100% upkeep with ardent censer on the whole team during the late game. The problem is that it takes a decent amount of gold to get there. If you increase the amount of gold supports can get and then increase the gold values of the support items, so they in turn are better items (at least stat wise), all supports would be more effective...including sona. Also, the support items in the game do not help sona alot. Sona needs ap to be good. Which I would assume you think it is bad. I dont. I think that fact all the good support items don't give ap is bad. Locket and redemption do not give ap, so once you use them....their stats are kinda dead weight on sona (not the mana regen tho). If zekes got a rework to be a good item...that would definitely help sona. I really don't want sona reworked...I love her now. I want items and the way supports get gold to be change. That would make supports a more wanted role and allow for even better support items.
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