: Bring Us Your Bugs!! Celebrating 10 Years of LoL
SONA PASSIVE BUG: Using an ability within a second of firing a Powerchord auto attack, a stack of powerchord is not gained.
: > [{quoted}](name=La Belle Sauvage,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=Ab3z3wLr,comment-id=0012,timestamp=2019-06-20T15:17:47.973+0000)1. Spell Theif's edge (into Frostfang) > 2. Mikael's Crucible > 3. Athene's Unholy Grail > 4. (Pending matchup - though a lot of times IBG) > 5. (Pending Matchup) Given that this build gets you only 50 AP from those alone, even a 20% cut to AP ratios would only lose you 10 damage on your Q and only about 1% movement speed. This is the sort of Sona build that is affected least by the proposed direction.
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=Ab3z3wLr,comment-id=00120000,timestamp=2019-06-20T15:20:55.007+0000) > > Given that this build gets you only 50 AP from those alone, even a 20% cut to AP ratios would only lose you 10 damage on your Q and only about 1% movement speed. This is the sort of Sona build that is affected least by the proposed direction. Actually, if you add in the Athene's passive, that's around 100 AP from those items. A lot of Sona players also build Seraphs. These changes likely won't gut her, but Sona's pretty sensitive to nerfs.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: December 12
Thoughts on Sona's power curve atm? I don't want her to be buffed because she does have a good winrate, but would it be possible to give her a power shift? I don't think the ult passive changes did anything 'unique' to her other than make her another scaling-liability in team comps, when a support generally should be useful in all stages of the game and shouldn't need to rely on gold/level spikes as much as Sona currently does. I feel most Sona players would gladly trade some late game power in exchange for a better early game.
: Hello Meddler, How is Sona doing currently in this meta? I would love to hear anything about the current state of Sona's W and how weak it feels compared to every other enchanter's main protective abilitiy (Janna's E scales with 70% ap and has way higher base stats, so does Nami's W, Soraka's W and Lulu's E). It scales really bad and the base heal/shield stats aren't strong either (30 heal/25 shield at level 1), plus, the mana costs on W are insane early game, especially if you're against a mage support botlane (most of supports are mage nowadays and they hit like a truck) and you need the extra sustain, I would love to see her W get some of its nerfs reverted or even a slight buff to the base stats or ap scaling of it, thank you.
> [{quoted}](name=LaughsInTeemo,realm=EUW,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=bEE1jbqr,comment-id=001e,timestamp=2018-12-05T17:02:53.636+0000) > > Hello Meddler, > > How is Sona doing currently in this meta? I would love to hear anything about the current state of Sona's W and how weak it feels compared to every other enchanter's main protective abilitiy (Janna's E scales with 70% ap and has way higher base stats, so does Nami's W, Soraka's W and Lulu's E). > > It scales really bad and the base heal/shield stats aren't strong either (30 heal/25 shield at level 1), plus, the mana costs on W are insane early game, especially if you're against a mage support botlane (most of supports are mage nowadays and they hit like a truck) and you need the extra sustain, I would love to see her W get some of its nerfs reverted or even a slight buff to the base stats or ap scaling of it, thank you. I think a better request would be to ask for a power shift :) Personally speaking, I do not like how it feels to play Sona right now. She feels really weak because this is an early game meta and damage is really high. You can't straight up buff Sona's early game because the last set of ult passives made her the hardest scaling support in the game (I heavily disagreed with this decision). Imo Sona needs a rework that removes her gold/level dependence and smoothens out her power curve. She's a literal minion in laning phase, and a teamfighting/sieging god in the lategame; the problem there is that a support's purpose is to well...support your adc and team without the need for pure stats or scaling. Back to her heal: I did like having the %missing health ratio but I guess now that her W is really spammable later on it would make her even more polarizing. Maybe if the %missing health scaling was on her shield?
sinZsoul (NA)
: It's actually a really strong heal since it scales with missing health. You don't want to create the case where sona heals better than soraka without any health cost. The point of not having overpowered heals that are spammable early on is that these heals erase bad trades or tilt trades too hard on ones favor.
> [{quoted}](name=sinZsoul,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=bEE1jbqr,comment-id=001e00000000,timestamp=2018-12-05T19:02:05.378+0000) > > It's actually a really strong heal since it scales with missing health. You don't want to create the case where sona heals better than soraka without any health cost. > W's missing health scaling was removed two years ago lol.
: Karma Gameplay Change Preview
Is there a possibility you'd explore the Clothesline mechanic again like we saw in last month's post? I really liked that idea! Maybe you could combine this iteration and the older one? Maybe something like: karma can send out a spirit clothesline who's tether roots enemies and gives mana to allies that pass through it.
: Oh god damn...that would be too tricky to get that redone :( We'll probably just have to disable that line
> [{quoted}](name=Riot MapleNectar,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=NPBRPjqf,comment-id=003f0000,timestamp=2018-10-23T22:01:59.966+0000) > > Oh god damn...that would be too tricky to get that redone :( We'll probably just have to disable that line Please don't! Weatherwomen are sometimes wrong with their forecasts!
: Creator Spotlight: Hozure
" I'm not one of those people who can say they drew their entire lives." Seeing this while also seeing how amazing your art is makes me really happy! I didn't start getting into art until my senior year of high school, so I've always felt like I'm constantly trying to play catch-up. Ty for sharing that :)
Stacona (NA)
: How about knock-up animation but is still a stun like Nami's bubble? I know you forgot that Nami even exists in the game eh...
> [{quoted}](name=Stacona,realm=NA,application-id=ELUpwER8,discussion-id=2MKjsKEj,comment-id=00170004,timestamp=2018-09-04T18:46:10.755+0000) > > How about knock-up animation but is still a stun like Nami's bubble? I know you forgot that Nami even exists in the game eh... He literally mentions Nami in his comment..
Rioter Comments
: Check out the Champ Memotions Contest!
Are we allowed to also post our entries on social media such as an art twitter/instagram after we've submitted them? Gonna have to study a ton of facial expressions before even trying this, but it's a great way to motivate myself! Edit: Didn't see that my question was answered already!
CJXander (EUNE)
: I brought Championship Ashe icon to live
Wow that's really cool! Has after effects gotten a lot more features last year? I tried animating drawings with it with an older version but it was pretty difficult, and I don't think I remember seeing that 'smile controller' too haha.
: URF shouldn't come back until you make a new map for it!
Did they ever do anything about Brand's hadouken combo? I saw it once and it looked hilarious.
: i just watched a kalista kite malphite.
{{champion:54}} I've finally caught up to you, prepare to die! What Malphite didn't realize is that Kalista stacked Rend 1287392183719 times before he finally got close to her. {{champion:429}} Lol bye. *presses E* {{champion:412}} *lanterns* AN ALLY HAS BEEN SLAIN!
: "But muh lategame"
"Lee Sin falls off" is a conspiracy Riot has been trying to make everyone believe that he has any weakness. # #wakeupAmerica
: URF shouldn't come back until you make a new map for it!
I actually really like that idea. Also, while we're at it, please don't try to 'balance' this game mode by disabling champions like Kassadin, Sona, Ryze, Nidalee. Yes, all of them were very annoying, but all that did was make people find the next 'op' champ and use that; pretty soon all that would be left to pick would have been Yasuo (he didn't really get anything out of urf's buff tbh).
Fuaztin (NA)
: Some poor fool gave me Shaco as a nemesis.
Technically, he made /you/ the fool. Get it?
Rioter Comments
: Stop with support fights in Nemesis Draft! IT BORING AND LAME!
For some reason my first two matches I was given Nami. Went full ap and rekt.
: It's happening
Guys, guys. Why not both?
: God complexes on the rise in the boards?
So, Kanye West has multiple accounts here?
: > [{quoted}](name=xDiostukosx,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=kT3OAQm9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-02-12T19:01:28.637+0000) > > That's nice and all, but there's [one thing DJ Sona has that Garen can never hope to have. > ](http://i.imgur.com/acqgvrJ.gif) Excuse me? http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/017/8/8/league_of_legends__garen_by_ganassa-d37dudn.jpg
> [{quoted}](name=Därius,realm=EUW,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=kT3OAQm9,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2015-02-12T19:18:46.420+0000) > > Excuse me? > > http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/017/8/8/league_of_legends__garen_by_ganassa-d37dudn.jpg Fanart don't count boy. But if you wanna play like that, then bam:
: Garen > DJ Sona
That's nice and all, but there's [one thing DJ Sona has that Garen can never hope to have. ](http://i.imgur.com/acqgvrJ.gif)
Rioter Comments
Lycaeus (NA)
: just hope they actually work out all the bugs. not optimistic given that PFE and SGU STILL both have bug problems so long after release
> [{quoted}](name=Lycaeus,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=MzAmp0Fm,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-02-12T16:19:41.758+0000) > > just hope they actually work out all the bugs. not optimistic given that PFE and SGU STILL both have bug problems so long after release I guess that's why they put her on the pbe for an extended stay. Seems like each tiny pbe patch keeps updating her. They even gave her some more audible lines when a lot of people got mad that they couldn't understand her.
Dokusei (NA)
: Its time that we designed a anti mobility champion
Why not something similar in design to Soraka's E but instead of silencing it prevents dashes. It doesn't affect immobile champions at all (except maybe flash?), while making things like Kalista, Ahri, Zed less annoying.
: Why is it that a Kalista who rushed an Attack Speed item
Her Q is very annoying, yes, but what I get salty about is that she rushes Ruunan's+one bf sword and she'll be able to stack rend 1000 times without you being able to get away.
: "God Nemesis Draft is So Dumb"
If ability draft ever gets made I bet they'll complain about it too :^)
Lycaeus (NA)
: Anyone else wanting to play a lot of ad sona
AD Sona jungle dropping dat bass.
: afaik, 5.4. and as someone on PBE: 100% worth.
> [{quoted}](name=Eeveefyre,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=MavHkHLV,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-02-12T06:34:56.608+0000) > > afaik, 5.4. > > and as someone on PBE: 100% worth. I didn't bother to patch today's update in beacuse Moo said it was small. Did get use the skin today? Did you notice anything different?
Matthevv (NA)
: For all you gold noobs out there
Which item lets me freeze lane? Frozen heart?
: > [{quoted}](name=HyenaOfLeisure,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=2AFP2FFY,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-02-12T02:13:55.014+0000) > > max w-->build {{item:3028}} > > Suddenly you are a manaless healer/nuke bot who only needs to bubble when something actually comes towards you, and can otherwise out trade an ADC with a bf sword with your AA W AA combo, let alone adding an E into the mix for shits n giggles, let alone any poor helpless support that will have no chance in hell of trading with you. > > Nami's mana problems only exist if you are hella fuckin stupid with her and brainlessly spam bubbles or buffs. 1 hp 3 mana or 2:2 on your starting pots, early chalice, auto win lane with the brain dead cancer that is her w. > > And may I remind you she is infinitely stronger than Sona could ever be in the mid to late game? {{item:3110}} {{item:3222}} and really, mana issues have never been a problem for her.. literally never. You're on crack if you think Nami does more damage than Sona Everything you said....just gave me cancer. Because I could've sworn you were talking about Sona but then you said Nami. Are you sure you're not talking about Sona?
> [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=2AFP2FFY,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-02-12T02:21:10.122+0000) > > You're on crack if you think Nami does more damage than Sona > > Everything you said....just gave me cancer. Because I could've sworn you were talking about Sona but then you said Nami. Are you sure you're not talking about Sona? I mean, she technically does, but that's because all of Nami's abilities do damage, instead of Sona who only has Q+R -------------- Sona- Q Bolts + On-hit (300+.7ap) + Powerchord-Staccato (319.5+.3ap) + Crescendo (350+.5)= 969.5(1.5ap) Nami- Aqua Prsion (295+.5ap) + Ebb and Flow (230+.5ap) + Tidecaller's Blessing x3 (255+.6ap) + Tidal Wave (350.6)= 1130(2.2ap) -------------------------------- Though you have to take into account that Sona is more bursty as her 'combo' is just a really fast aa-Q-powerchord- combo, and Nami requires you to land Q and uses more mana. That beind said, Nami has the luxury of having her sustain ability also double as a poke ability. Her level 1 is miles ahead of Sona's if she takes W. Nami W: Range- 725, Mana cost- 70, Heal- 65, Damage- 70 Sona Q: Range (I think it's 750?), Mana cost- 45, Damage- 40 Tbh when going Nami I like to only put two points into W and Max Q. It's a lot less reliable but 2 points into the heal is plenty for lane sustain, and Q means lower cooldown, higher damage, but without an increasing mana cost per rank.
: "AP Sona mid only."
As much as I want that skin I probably won't play Sona at all right when it comes out. I'll just be spamming Leona for ez wins.
Terff (NA)
: This article is basically a copy/paste of this http://www.nerfplz.com/2015/01/2015-champion-tier-list-solo-queue_30.html website.
> [{quoted}](name=Terff,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fMd8bEAa,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-02-12T02:07:23.941+0000) > > This article is basically a copy/paste of this http://www.nerfplz.com/2015/01/2015-champion-tier-list-solo-queue_30.html website. Lulu in the same tier as Thresh. lol
: Sona players are annoying
I'm not annoying :(
Jalkan (NA)
: Akali, this Swain is a bad player!
> [{quoted}](name=Jalkan,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=qnQuAuYa,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-02-12T01:06:44.453+0000) > > Akali, this Swain is a bad player! Ended 7/1 m8
: riot officially recognizes velkoz as a support
: I love going against full AD comps
{{champion:44}} {{item:3262}} {{item:3075}} {{item:3110}} {{item:3078}} {{item:3083}} {{item:3143}}
: ... Is this a hack?
Nautilus coded as a minion confirmed.
Bleediss (NA)
: Our team gave Zyra to the enemy team in the Nemesis game mode.
I heard people are giving away Janna. Like wut, are you high.
: you also laned vlad though... i mean its not hard to carry agaisnt someone you hard counter
> [{quoted}](name=gamerguy13,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=hXuLWWOu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-02-11T22:30:41.507+0000) > > you also laned vlad though... i mean its not hard to carry agaisnt someone you hard counter Yeah, laning was a piece of cake. First I bullied Akali and got a kill on her, then she went top and I got a kill on Vlad when he went midlane. Then I bought my first item :^)
Zantheus (NA)
: Like seriously, the only real assassins are
{{champion:37}} {{item:3100}} {{item:3089}} [insert dfg ;-;]
: > [{quoted}](name=xDiostukosx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OFtyRjPR,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-02-11T21:05:16.061+0000) > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXfASzxaCA4&feature=youtu.be > > Relevant I hope that's not you because the guy in that video is a complete retard who needs to uninstall. Her ulti range has never been THAT far lol Dumbass scrub tunnel vision
> [{quoted}](name=xTheBlueBeastx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OFtyRjPR,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2015-02-11T21:11:13.050+0000) > > I hope that's not you because the guy in that video is a complete retard who needs to uninstall. Her ulti range has never been THAT far lol > > Dumbass scrub tunnel vision Not me.
: I didn't realize that Akali's ult is now melee range
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXfASzxaCA4&feature=youtu.be Relevant
: every game with swain is +20 lp, even in normals
> [{quoted}](name=Ashkandi,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=hXuLWWOu,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-02-11T20:50:00.393+0000) > > every game with swain is +20 lp, even in normals +30*
: So how long do PBE accounts last?
I think they last as long as you don't go longer than 12 months from using it. Oh and don't be rude to people.
: Too centric. Just get {{item:3047}} or {{item:3110}}
> [{quoted}](name=Nono Bot,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=Y5rGwEWL,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-02-11T20:38:27.598+0000) > > Too centric. Just get {{item:3047}} or {{item:3110}} {{item:3153}} {{item:3035}}
Rioter Comments
Rasv (NA)
: Swain should bully akali out of lane, she'll roam to try to get kills in the side lanes. Its really not Akali vs swain, its Akali vs swain's side lanes. Yeah she's gonna get fed off your bot lane and your team will blame you for the loss, sorry.
> [{quoted}](name=Rasv,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=qnQuAuYa,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-02-11T20:24:11.573+0000) > > Swain should bully akali out of lane, she'll roam to try to get kills in the side lanes. Its really not Akali vs swain, its Akali vs swain's side lanes. > > Yeah she's gonna get fed off your bot lane and your team will blame you for the loss, sorry. Yeah, she tried to switch lanes with top but we killed the switched lane anyways lol
: Going Swain vs Akali for my last promo game.
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