: It sure doesn't feel like Riot wants you to climb in ranked
I agree. The problem also seems to stem from the fact that you can go 15-0-10 or something and gain 18-20 LP. Then lose where you are the only one on your team positive, or even remotely useful. And lose just as much. Another problem I see is the favoring those who play an obscene amount. This is caused by promos getting easier every time you reach them, as well as the way wibstreaking works, if you get carried a couple times in a row you are more likely to be put on teams able to carry you. My solution, make Sr gains losses a much wider range 5-35 and almost entirely dependent on performance. With slants towards things like objective takes. (With markers on champs/roles to whichobj you should be helping with. For example. If support goes and helps take Herald at 13 min but ADC either dies and gives up bot tower or has to back off and give up bot tower. That should be a net loss for support. But if say top does a similar play and sacrifices some or all of top tower to take Herald and take mid that should be positive as that's overall better for the team (mid tower allows better map control) Similarly split push champs gain Sr equity when they take side lane towers (more if they do it without losing another obj on map) but an ADC or teamfight control mage should lose Sr equity if they trade major obj. Obviously they gain if the take without losing anything as well. Tldr Remove promos and make LP the only determiner for not only ranks, but also matchmaking. Fuck hidden MMR it's actually bullshit. Make it a whole lot easier to clime if you pop off every game, make it alot easier to tank if you are carried. Encourage grouping on champs meant to group and splitting on champs suited to splitting.
Rioter Comments
: this comment section is full of delusional asshats acting like the guinsoos changes dont hard nerf vayne or kaisa
Pretty sure they just recognize those are basically the only two viable late game ADC's and are happy they get to see other champs
Kritty (NA)
: Not to mention, if she builds Spear of Shojin, as soon as she hits 6 the change will literally mean nothing. So all they've done with this is ensured that Spear is a 100% core item for Riven to be just as annoying as she has always been, while not doing anything to address the massive shield that she gets from her E.
3400 for 65 ad 10 cdr and 200 health i think. it a pretty under statted item, not to mention it only gives the passive when she has r, so her spike is now something close to 9 to 11 thousand gold as opposed to 8, I'd say thats pretty good. Old build; Deaths Dance, cleaver, boots and kindlegem for 40% cdr giving shields every 4 ish seconds as she hits level 12-13. New build at the same items and levels its closer to 6, thats a Big difference when it comes to killing her, as she literally has to be in your face to kill you. Finishing spear gives you comparable E timings, however dragons fury (spear passive) lasts 8 seconds. so you might save 2-4 seconds of cd on it. TLDR Great change, anyone who thinks otherwise is bronze. She is actually mortal now.
: I mean, Vayne got an early-game nerf that reduces the effectiveness of her ult... and her most influential powerspike item got reduced in synergy with her. This will result in a weaker early->midgame for her, which is an important step. Whetheri t goes FAR enough, I don't know... but I feel like this is not a bad starting point to gauge how she lands.
WOW, its almost like the late game hyper carry ISN'T supposed to do more dmg than than the lane bully levels 1-9
Gloppa (NA)
: [GAMEPLAY] Sylas W does not heal
I noticed this too, it was not healing, ptrry sure its 9.10
: > [{quoted}](name=Myrmiron,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EF6AgGkM,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-15T14:53:49.957+0000) > > Ranked MMR ≠ normal MMR Yeah true, but should also normal games be fair? Every lane who went into those plat diam got heavily stomped EVERY TIME :(
> [{quoted}](name=TheViceroys,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EF6AgGkM,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-05-15T14:56:22.778+0000) > > Yeah true, but should also normal games be fair? Every lane who went into those plat diam got heavily stomped EVERY TIME :( No
Sucction (OCE)
: I would say Yuumi/Kalista is probably worse. Would be almost funny seeing how bad that would be.
no rule saying that you have to oathsword your supp, esp now that they have taken the added ad/as off of oathsworn and just added to kit. Thats why noone even levels w anymore and just oathsworns the tankiest on their team
Jack Raiden (EUNE)
: if infinity edge can be nerfed, as Riot did this season, i see no problem in reducing Trinity's damage to 150%
Stop. Just stop. Mage items are 10 time more broken.
: Or unless you're any of the previously stated champions that heal when they use their enhanced auto attack abilities. Especially with champs who heal based on how much damage they deal. (Nasus for example is 'squishy' but heals 400+ hp for hitting Q, so it doesn't matter).
For nasus to heal 400 off a q he would need to deal 2000 DMG with his q before healing reduction and added lifesteal. Bud, you're just bad and don't know how to kite/burst.
MtotheN (NA)
: Your claims are backed up by no logic at all, Darius is an early game champ, fioras just over started as fuck *hashinshin*, hecarim was just broken, and for the other champs idk wtf your talking about. It sounds like they just got fed one game. You must be one of those guys who tries things like yasuo or adc top and expect it to work. And yea I hope garen, a champ with 60% dmg reduction, and a passive warmogs could outrade u lmao. You must be new to top lane, leave bot and mid every once and a while. You just sound like a person who has no idea how to play the matchups
While I agree with you. Don't listen to hashinshin. Please. Ever. Even a broken clock is right twice a day
: When will Riot nerf Trinity Force?
3733 gold. It's literally the most expensive item with some of the worst items that it builds from. Maybe you could complain if it was like kindlegem sheen and recurve bow that it built from. But phage and stinger are two of the worst items stat wise and sheen is only good situationally. What would you prefer. They are stronger early then weaker upon finishing the MOST EXPENSIVE ITEM IN THE GAME.
: > [{quoted}](name=GoDTroX 1v9,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Eak7Kd7P,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-05-05T17:00:33.695+0000) > > Yeah, you are right, it's Rito's matchmaking fault no ours, by now i should be LCS player but this matchmaking is so bad, gimme good team and i can beat Faker w/o problems. > I am the best player in the world, it's just Rito's matchmaking is holding me down, i think i should purchase more RP, maybe it will fix the problem. It really does feel that way when riot gives you 30% wr team mates while you yourself has a 76% wr playing with 30% wr team mates
> [{quoted}](name=ShirleyfG,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Eak7Kd7P,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-05-05T17:03:28.322+0000) > > It really does feel that way when riot gives you 30% wr team mates > while you yourself has a 76% wr playing with 30% wr team mates So you should climb with 76 wr. 29 games is not enough
: Riot you gotta explain this matchmaking
I was a high silver low gold last season. (Now climbed back to gold) I was placed bronze 3. That's how they said the now system would work dude. They were going to place you significantly lower than you started. It's a skill check for climbing.
Terozu (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=DrCyanide,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ow7hmb26,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-30T23:36:08.922+0000) > > ... No, he literally wasn't. He is far closer to Indiana Jones. > Ironically, this gross mistake on your part further proves my point. He's generic, and you inserted him where you wanted to insert him. > > Which is a fine reason to have her in Star Guardians. But it doesn't lend much of a reason for her to be in an anime tech academy setting. You realize, he was literally based on Urihara? http://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mczdvnDvkV1r84v8eo1_1280.jpg As in he was literally a blonde ~~Urihara~~ Ishida? With the arrogant attitude and magic energy bow? He even has the Hare Hare Yukai dance, from _another_ anime. And had a _Dragon Ball Z_ reference. The dude was based on Quincy from Bleach, it's where his entire kit came from. They decided to lean him more towards Indiana jones way later in development. Since Ezreal is designed to be a stock shonen protagonist, he is the one who it makes most sense to fulfil the stock shonen protagonist in a skinline. Since Lux is his love interest, why the heck would anyone else take the love interest spot? The two of them are the most animesque champs in the entire game, by a _significant_ margin. No one else makes as much sense as them. No on.
> [{quoted}](name=Terozu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ow7hmb26,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-30T23:41:23.388+0000) > > You realize, he was literally based on Urihara? > http://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mczdvnDvkV1r84v8eo1_1280.jpg > > As in he was literally a blonde ~~Urihara~~ Ishida? With the arrogant attitude and magic energy bow? He even has the Hare Hare Yukai dance, from _another_ anime. And had a _Dragon Ball Z_ reference. > > The dude was based on Quincy from Bleach, it's where his entire kit came from. They decided to lean him more towards Indiana jones way later in development. > > Since Ezreal is designed to be a stock shonen protagonist, he is the one who it makes most sense to fulfil the stock shonen protagonist in a skinline. Since Lux is his love interest, why the heck would anyone else take the love interest spot? > > The two of them are the most animesque champs in the entire game, by a _significant_ margin. No one else makes as much sense as them. No on. I agree. Except y'all kinda forgetting ahri. But hey. That's a whole other can of worms
: So. I am enjoying this game very much. It is very unique and I enjoy the gameplay, sometimes. HOWEVER, one thing that I cannot forgive is the lack of love that my main man Kassadin has recieved in the past years. My lovely fellow has not recieved 1 single skin since 2015 and 2011 before that and has yet to recieve much love on the buff side either. Now if this could change, I would be a very happy man. But, until these changes occur, I will remain a very very angry boy. With all loving respect, Your Kassadin main, Sirmarines-
"yet to recive much love on the buff side either" What about s8 changes that made him a solo queue scaling monster and fleet yet to be changed for AP champs making him basically able to survive almost any lane if you know what youre doing on him. I agree with the skin thing, but come on man, hes not weak, he just has weaknesses that people exploit and you clearly dont know how to cover for
: The real MVP is those Master Yi buffs. Bravo on finding yet another way to buff Yi for Yi mains in higher elo WITHOUT making him broken in lower elo. Looking forward to more changes like these for champions that terrorize low elo but struggle at higher levels.
Yeah pretty sure hes more broken in the low elo as High elo players can actually focus fire and cc him
karolmo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Tr4shB4NSYST3M,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EEhpLgZt,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-03-28T19:25:37.277+0000) > > Except the first part is blatantly wrong, the viable jungle pool has gotten way smaller. You mean the same thing that happened when the only viable adc picks were bruisers and no actual adc was close to viable? Damn.
no, in 8.4-8.5 there were at least 8 viable botlane champions competetivley. in general there is 3-4 in the jungle, and its been that way for almost 3 years. The only time jungle seemed okay was in 8.3 pre scuttle, where a lost of champs could play jg and gank at 3 dude to camp buff camp clear, however, they generally were constrained to mere warding as tackers knife still existed and ganking was practically impossible once the other jg got one.
: Can someone explain what just happend
RIOT, the small indie company. Also can we talk about the lux support standing 500 units behind the adc and not even trying to poke?
: I CS when Im alone in lane or the ADC SUCKS at CSing. I also play Zyra so gold on me is good.
actually zyra doesnt really scale well with items, her dmg doesnt go up very much after rylais+liandrys
: Can a support CS when the ADC recalls?
Yes and no. Dont push unless the wave is already pushing and enemy not there. just last hit if its coming to you. HOWEVER, from every jungle player ever. DONT STAGGER YOUR RECALLS THEN CALL FOR A GANK. IM NOT GONING TO GANK WITH ONE OF YOU IN LANE AND I PREFER NOT TO WAIT FOR 4 MIN TO GANK YOUR LANE. If youre a support, recall with your adc, the only time you shouldnt is if you are safe from being dove (jg comes to help hold), or you are going to roam mid. Try to avoid sitting in lane as muhc as possible, theres no way you solo kill 1v2 as a the supp, and theres no reason to even try to trade into the enemy because if you do they will just turn and kill you or recall and get back to lane as your returning adc crashes wave, putting you in a position to be ganked or just traded into in a an unfavorable way for you becasue you are either oom or recalled.
: Absolutely mental Big Chungus takes 7.5k True damage in the span of 2.5 seconds and then dies
While I agree with removing the % max health true dmg, i disagree with removing conq, it is the only thing that gives trading power to people early game. Without conq grasp would literally be the only thing taken in the toplane.
jak kam (EUW)
: FIX TITANIC HYDRA BUG (2 years btw)
Yeah, It works as a reset but is Clunky as hell and doesnt actually increase your ability to auto multiple times.
Kadexe (NA)
: Yasuo's Q, and Graves' AoE basic attacks, apply 100% of lifesteal because otherwise the stat would be really subpar on them. 100% might be too much, but 33% would definitely be too little. Yasuo's Q is essentially a skillshot basic attack, it's just treating lifesteal like it would any other on-hit effect.
Graves' autos arent AOE, treating Yas Q like a spell would make way more sense. Comparing yasuo's q to graves auto is apples to oranges. Maybe try something like irelia Q or Nidalee takedown. Those are comparable abilities and they rely on spell vamp for their heal stats. Not to mention they are still single target. No other ability in the game that isnt an actual Auto reset/augment (see Nasus Q and Jax W) uses lifesteal instead of spell vamp (Jax W also still uses Spell vamp). OP is right in saying this makes no sense.
Sukishoo (NA)
: Low bronze and low silver isn't much different. It does this across all ranks based around your MMR not thw actual ranking listed. If you see what Ive seen where you could have a bronze 4 in a gold 4 game, now thats something wrong as they should be way too far apart.
incorrect. I, a S8 silver 3 player, play for vision, build correctly, have good runes and can attain 7-8 cs/min. I see most of the people in my game doing the same, the difference between silver and Gold is small, the only difference is Golds have slightly better mechanics. The difference between bronze and silver gold is game knowledge and application. The difference between gold and plat and diamond is next to nothing except mechanics, not until master do you start seeing proper rotations, well timed grouping and wave management knowledge beyond a simple freeze. While this is NA and it may be different of other servers the largest gap in skill between a single rank teir (iron, bronze, silver ect) is bronze to silver. The funny thing is there are Iron 4 players getting put into games with High Silver players.
: You forgot to mention that Sylas also has a slow, a stun, and a knockup. But his ult ranges anywhere from literally useless when facing Udyr or another Sylas to OP when facing an opponent with a strong ult that doesn't depend on kit synergy (Karthus, Soraka, Janna, TF, etc.). He's not balanceable.
a small, skillshot tiny weak slow, and a .75 stun/knockup, but yeah, lets complain about his cc.
: Just had a Sylas in my game who was tolerable throughout most of the game, but near the end he literally started oneshotting me and somehow ended up with more kills than me, even though I was the fed one previously with Dark Harvest and all he had was fucking Electrocute with a full AP build. Oh well, we still won.
Electrocute does more damage that DH at every stage of the game until you have 40 stacks. Just sayin. And its Bonus AD ratio is better with the AP ratio Staying the same. As well as it being adaptive damage, if you were an AD champ his damage will always be better into late game due to to fact that all champs have better armor growth than MR growth. And armor is on more of the common items
Rioter Comments
: Why are people laughing at Ocean Dragon? It is BY FAR, the most valuable dragon to have in early game.
yeah, ok, he says, laughing in any fight after 8 min
: I think the cost is higher because marksmen normally have more kills than other classes. If riot decided to make items cheaper, every adc would reach full build first.
The cost for a marksman full build is low right now, considering crit items are 2600, thats almost a support item. im not saying they have an expensive build, im saying riot wants to make items the only thing that allows for scaling, brusiers scale beacuse their full build is 2-3000 more expensive than other builds, if the 5k IE goes through this will become the same for marksmen, and this, IMO is unhealthy for the game
Rioter Comments
: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I SMELL IRON 4
theres this magical item called boots that allow you to sidestep easier or qss or mikeals crucible
: For Riot Gameplay team: Lux needs a rework her damage is 'too much' for a support(also ahri, lulu)

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