: > [{quoted}](name=Mavëríck,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eHp1VY3V,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-07-13T19:12:08.995+0000) > > Or they're on a smurf account trying to get fresh MMR to sneak past their current rank on their main. (Gold 2 main here :3) No I mean like someone plays ADC since the season started and then has this huge winstreak on Riven. Then they go back to playing ADC and on a huge loss streak.
Then why are you asking this question? You know how they got in your games: they bought a boost or an account.
: > [{quoted}](name=Infernape,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lFLAfMsJ,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-07-13T14:14:03.708+0000) > > Laughs in support main. I still love how playing support removes autofilled when support isn't even the least picked role.
Support is still the least picked role in 90% of elos in SoloQ iirc. It’s gotten better and jungle and top have gotten worse - so the margin is less.
: Actually impossile to climb in flex.
Climbing in flex is stupid easy. It's difficult for me not to reach plat in flex queue even playing shit like Zed support or off roles.
: Yes, because me mentioning the upcoming Blitz and Renekton buffs that will literally fuck over shield supports that aren't on live servers yet is totally going to be shown in current win rates.
"worse than it already is". lmao. 2 champions countering shields isn't going to ruin their consistent 52%+ win rates. I swear shield support players just whine cause they don't realize how broken their stupid ass champions are.
: Nothing feels worse than watching Riot nerf shield supports again. Can't wait for those Renekton and Blitz changes to make it to live and make my ability to support even worse than it already is.
Yeah shield supports are so bad... https://i.ibb.co/Wvs7csW/EBF315-DE-A68-D-41-D3-AC9-A-B01-FBC445-DCD.png
: Cries in Viktor. Got nerfed repeatedly for abusing Iceborn and Klepto top lane whilst simultaneously being meh in the mid lane. Of course everyone knows why Iceborn and Klepto are kept being available for ranged champions; {{champion:81}} .
Well Viktor is also pretty toxic in mid lane when he’s good. If he has good power on his Q he becomes a weird ranged bruiser just kiting around melee champs. Too much power on his E just means he can afk waveclear and scale to his monstrous lategame. They just need to make his ult less shit.
Yets4240 (NA)
: Not one shot, maybe, but a three item Kaisa can deal over 2k DPS premitigation. If they had 4-5 items, they could burn through those stats (and assuming 125 MR, note that Kaisa does a metric fuckton of free magic damage while building full AS/AD/crit) in under 2 seconds.
Except Kaisas most meta build is mostly AP items but ok.
HeartVine (OCE)
: When someone calls LoL shit and says they're going to uninstall
https://cdn.dopl3r.com/memes_files/calling-a-game-shit-and-never-play-it-again-calling-a-game-shit-and-stil-play-it-everyday-qxhf6.jpg
: Mages need to land skillshots to one shot
Lol. So you can spam 1000+ range skillshots every 5 seconds and if you hit them you get heavily rewarded. Yep. I dodged 27 lux binds, but cause I got hit by 1 I deserve to die instantly. Don’t worry though, her ulti will be back up before you respawn. Wow. So much skill. Good job dude.
Haze97 (EUW)
: What bs. If you were going 5/1, not even a Zed who is a level below you would kill you reliably.
Well first of all, no. He probably wouldn’t. Also Zed isn’t even that good tbfh. He’s no where on the level of bullshit like Eve/Akali/Irelia/Sylas/Rengar where you might as well afk cause if they want to kill you they will.
: Years of ghostcrawler favorism towards adcs and now botlaners are basically the only players left. Who else wants to play this shit. We are fully back into s7. I have zero impact over the outcome of the game. Man what a time s8 was when you could for once actually play league of legends.
Except ADC was one of if not the most popular roles back in the "old days" cause you could actually carry. Now ADC in most elos has a much lower playrate. Sure is fun being 5/1 and getting 1-shot by anything that moves. Love all these stupid fucking champs like Sylas/Irelia/Akali that make the game unplayable as ADC. And whenever they get nerfed the next cancer comes out that makes bot lane unplayable.
Zac x Me (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=OilegibtKoile,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KX1mrOuu,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-01T21:50:38.737+0000) > > But... but... I have no agency over my games!!!!!!! Rito decides my games with matchmaking reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Of course it's decided by matchmaking. Winning streaks are followed by losing streaks and impossible to win matches that end in a loss within the first 15 minutes without surrender.
> [{quoted}](name=Zac x Me,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KX1mrOuu,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-07-01T21:52:47.601+0000) > > Of course it's decided by matchmaking. > Winning streaks are followed by losing streaks and impossible to win matches that end in a loss within the first 15 minutes without surrender. And yet some people are hardstuck silver while others are hardstuck Diamond. Even on multiple accounts. But I’m sure it’s all luck.
Dokkaebi (EUNE)
: Throwback to Rito refusing ranked ARAM because of the RNG factor
Stupid analogy. TFT rewards a lot of RNG in a single game and allows you to strategize as your rolls change and the players you are against change. Just because 99% of people on boards don't know how to play TFT doesn't mean it's a complete RNG game (tbh 99% of boards don't even really know how to play league so how tf would you think they learned TFT). You are given health _as a resource_ in TFT and no, the 3 item player doesn't "instantly win". You barely lose any health at the start and if anyone here used more than a single brain cell it is easy to comeback in TFT if you're the better player and manage your resources well. Much like Poker, the best Poker players will always win in the end. ARAM on the other hand will be won in champ select in majority of games, so you're stuck in a losing game for 15+min. This has got to be the worst analogy in the world. And once again, complete lack of critical thinking from boards.
: >Except this whole analogy is stupid. You are punished way more for eating a spell than an auto attack. For most mages, missing your spell and having no cooldowns puts you in a vulnerable state and any person with awareness knows that and can punish you for it. >Also it’s much harder to constantly dodge a 1100 range ability than not let the adc walk up and auto you at less than 600 range. You deserve to get downvoted but you won’t. If you can't sidestep projectiles you deserve to be morg ccd. If you can't sidestep projectiles you deserve to be morg ccd. If you can't sidestep projectiles you deserve to be morg ccd. If you can't sidestep projectiles you deserve to be morg ccd. If you can't sidestep projectiles you deserve to be morg ccd. I also think you're forgetting that jinx rockets do splash damage. Mf q goes to next traget and as such ends up being rather easy to hit. Lucian can dash in. Ezreal can also dash in. Kaisa also has a speed up and a dash, Tristana also has a dash. Jee wow, it's almost like adcs are given the tools to dodge and avoid mage damage, but because a mage is NOT an idiot and hits them, they should be punished. Now to reiterate what you said back to you You deserve to get downvoted but you won’t. because boards hates the ideas of mages bot lane and wants to go back to leone the tank one shotting shit left and fucking right.
Mages don't get punished for missing their spells because their long ass ranges and mages also have auto attacks (I know, suprising - adcs can't just start walking up and autoing a Lux when she misses a spell because she'll win the trade just fucking autoing you with her shield). "Idiot gets hit by them" fucking lmao. You can spam your abilities off cooldown and a single morg or lux bind results in instant death. Good shit. I have to dodge an ability every 10 seconds or die instantly. Huge skill from mages. But what would you know? You're getting duo boosted by your adc while you get to afk throw spells on your mage and now are on boards to convince yourself that you climbed through your sheer skill. Lol.
: > [{quoted}](name=Disembark,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mGENPbgO,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2019-06-30T23:57:29.761+0000) > > “Small percentage”. Some of these streamers have 1mil+ subs on YouTube and get 10K+ viewers on twitch. > > Not to mention most people that watch streams are probably more invested than your casual couple games a week guy (aka your unranked/Arams players). > > You underestimate how much influence streamers have on the playerbase. There's about 80 mil players in League, so it's indeed a fraction...
NA has 1.7mil ranked players at the end of the season, and not all of them are active. Europe servers have about 5 mil at the end. Other than that no one watches English streamers. And most of NA streamer fans are from NA.
: CORRECT. At least a bullet hell gives you a *chance* to avoid the bullets. Of course, given that the OP is an ADC main, you and I are both probably about the get downvoted to oblivion.
Except this whole analogy is stupid. You are punished way more for eating a spell than an auto attack. Also it’s much harder to constantly dodge a 1100 range ability than not let the adc walk up and auto you at less than 600 range. You deserve to get downvoted but you won’t.
Zardo (NA)
: You're lucky. I have to deal with {{champion:111}} every game as an ADC. At least against mages I can bait out the enemy's spells by auto canceling on minions, but against naut he'll just run behind the minion wave and hook me with his lane sized hook if I don't concede the entire wave.
Well that can only really work if your support is brain dead, which is often the case in lower elo.
: Streamers are only a *small* reason; the viewers those toxic streamers have are only a fraction of the playerbase. But yeah, remember when players started running it down mid because of Tyler1's ID ban? And now people are playing Teemo support because of NB3 or Nubrac's bans
“Small percentage”. Some of these streamers have 1mil+ subs on YouTube and get 10K+ viewers on twitch. Not to mention most people that watch streams are probably more invested than your casual couple games a week guy (aka your unranked/Arams players). You underestimate how much influence streamers have on the playerbase.
Moody P (NA)
: bro just be fine with mages top clicking you for free damage like Neeko and if you ever try to play aggressively you get snare locked and murdered, just be fine with that just fucking lol at bringing up ADC patch when they were the only class who has NEVER had serious competition in their lane and that shift only lasted for all of like 3 patches before we were back to marksmen being the 99% pick rate bot class
Well tbh the adc patch didn’t add “diversity”, probably the opposite. It was like: “you know how Cassio, Swain and Vlad are OP in mid and top? Well now they’re OP bot lane too, haha”.
Rioter Comments
: Oh yeah i saw aatrox 1v9 that game. 1/3 entirely useless but atleast he somehow got a triple when they just ran into him at the nexus. Remember people ranged targeted nukes that kill in max three AAs=good game design, very healthy, lots of counterplay Slow ass, useless piece of shit that dies in his Q animation in the same time it takes an ADC to autoattack twice=broken, 1v9s every game, league basically unplayable. Aatrox high presence has another reason than you might think. Besides, that is literally the only thing you can jerk off to, ONE bruiser that is legitimately playable because his entire design screams "GOOD FOR COORDINATED PLAY" out of the biggest roster of champions and people here fuckin lose their shit. Like just looking at the stats, fuckin sona deals more dmg than aatrox lmao. Get outta here please.
OH YEAH, one bruiser. Are you straight up delusional? Irelia with super high presence. Camille popping back into the meta, mostly in top lane but also jungle. Also oocassional Fiora, and conquerer Hecarim that only just fell out of the meta. I wonder why Irelia and Aatrox have almost 70% ban rate and not these op champions like _Corki_. (fucking lmao). Straight up brain damaged dude. That's what happens when you only watch one LEC game and base your entire opinion off that. Your post quality is so awful it is actually embarassing that it's allowed on the boards.
: They are busy jerking off to a corki or sivir killing everyone in two autoattacks. As well as the caster colorizing what happens for us: OH GOD LOOK AT NEMESIS AND HE CRITS OH WOW WHAT A PLAYER TWO AUTO CRITS AND THE ADC IS DEAD OH WOW WHAT EXCITING GAMEPLAY. What a fuckin degenerate shitshow this game has become...AGAIN
Like how you only mention ADCs. Lmao, fucking _Corki_ is the problem according to you. I’m so done. Let’s just ignore Aatrox 1v5ing teams cause duhh bruiser balanced, skillshot balanced.
: Name me a single time Riot ever said that they were to make him good top when they made those extremely questionable patch 9.9 changes. Go ahead I'll wait. They definitely 100% intended to kill support though yeah.
They continuously nerfed his peeling and buffed his damage and dueling power. But ok.
CD8 (NA)
: Just had a match against a grandmaster, master, diamond and 2 plats.
You were playing flex queue. Everyone had a similar flex ranking. Fix your posts lmao.
Jamaree (NA)
: No one complained about old Akali because she didn't get played, and when she did, people realized how cancer a "have the stats to survive my level six or die" no counterplay champion she was.
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XsM8jHxp,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-21T07:58:08.969+0000) > > No one complained about old Akali because she didn't get played, and when she did, people realized how cancer a "have the stats to survive my level six or die" no counterplay champion she was. Same shit happened with Aatrox. People are like "rework is a failure" when their asses probably played against old Aatrox once in their career. Old Aatrox was stupid as fuck and the new one is way healthier.
: It's abuse when non-intended users become the primary users of an item without the item receiving changes to compensate for a user-base consisting of champions who not only weren't meant for the item but also are much better with it. This goes for anything. TK top abuse is TK changes meant for bot lane that ended up making him beat every melee top laner and thus causing him to become a top laner. Essentially, abuse = unintended use of something which causes it to be overbearing (mos of the time just means overbearing, but we as players define "intended use" via patch notes, dev notes, etc.)
TK changes were made for Top TK to be good and to kill support TK. Clueless.
: > [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Hab072cf,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-21T18:02:11.502+0000) > > You see, ezreal isn't an OP champ or anything. But he has a good fan base that want to play him. > We re not asking for nerfs on ezreal (at least I am not). > by definition, if a champ has been floating between A and S tier for 6 years I'm pretty sure they're overpowered, especially on a massive playerbase > What I would like is ezreal to be balanced around being a trinity force adc like he used to be. And have the items BUFFED for other champions. > why? trinity force has much of the same issue, the triforce build gets a frozen mallet > For example, IBG. If it was melee only, would anyone mind a lot if it was buffed to compete as a tank item vs bruisers? > Did you see my post regarding the issues pertaining to the three transformation champions and what has happened in the past? also I can't see it being any better of an item if it were 'melee only' since its current power level is the max it can be before something like fizz or ekko comes in and goes full tank > I just don't like the idea of a champion needing the items to be relevant, and at the same time be _the only champion_ on whom the items are even viable/competitive. > Again, Iceborn AND manamune are both built on jayce and have both been built on jayce since his release, they're not his core build anymore but that's simply due to imbalances in his kit regarding lethality, which riot has stated a yearning to nerf. That can't be done if there isn't a viable alternative for him to build into, and his healthiest role historically, as well as his initially intended role, was that of a B tier ADC meets a B tier bruiser. > At least that's how I perceive the situation. I just firmly disagree that a single champion should ever be the catalyst for the removal of an item, I'd rather have that specific champion have a situational nerf in relation to that item.
Ezreal has only been good in competitive for 6 years, and only really in the hands of Korean players who practice him a fuck ton at the highest level. Even then he falls out of the meta. He's been shit for a lot of the past 3 years, wtf are you talking about. He was shit all through the ardent meta era for like a year (season 7 MSI to season 8 mid) where he came back due to double tear (because the item got reworked for mages, and was straight up OP). Fell out of the meta until 8.11 which gutted all crit ADCs. He's also been pretty shit in SoloQ for long periods of time. He doesn't even really build bork right now so shows how much you know about the champion.
: {{item:3147}} {{item:3814}} {{item:3142}} {{item:3036}} {{item:3071}} . Should we call all AD assassins OP too? Along with the marksmen and divers&juggernauts who can build both {{item:3071}} {{item:3036}} ? If having a lot of penetration in your build was all it took to be OP then the list would be near endless. And infact AD would be stronger because they have access to both {{item:3071}} {{item:3036}} while mages "only" have {{item:3135}} . There is also no armor equivalent of {{item:3194}} .
2800 gold gets you 33 mpen. Built on every mage. 2900 gold gets you 21 lethality, 5800 gets you 39 (doesn’t even translate to armour pen till level 18). Void staff gives you even more % pen, and all around stats whereas LDR gives you less arm pen and less stats for around the same price. Every AP champ builds these mpen items. Doesn’t matter if it’s rumble, Vlad, Kennen, or a Leblanc. Whereas lethality items are only built by a handful of AD champs and LW is super situational whereas void staff is mandatory in any 6 item build. You can’t fonvince anyone with a brain that arm pen beats mpen in this game.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jimmy Rustles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=L0wYFEYi,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-16T15:37:00.986+0000) > > You can hear the assassin mains screaming already Plenty of AP assassins pissed about instalosing any lane against a Zed or Talon with nullifying orb because they don't have an equivalent to it. This will make AP assassins suck less ass even if any AP assassin besides Akali is still worse than a Zed in scaling and doesn't match Talon's roams. AP assassins and bruisers need a lot better items. Currently AD champs have steraks/PD, guardian angel, death's dance (try playing Zed with death's dance, it's an instant win against any mage or assassin since they can't burst you faster than you can them), and edge of night. AP assassins/bruisers only have Zhonyas, with a niche rod of ages consolation price for extra beefiness if they know a game can go that long, but many AP assassins only benefit partially from it as they are manaless.
This is just untrue. A lot of AP assassins scale well. A Fizz/Kassadin/Eve will probably be able to 1v1 a Zed in the late game. Or have stronger early/mid games, or more utility, such as Leblanc or Ekko. Or compare it someone like talon, who has a stronger lane phases but is easier to 1v1 in the late game.
: Warding and playing safe doesnt stop ganks, it just makes bad junglers not WANT to gank. Good junglers will and always have, just straight up dove and killed you. Yes it can end poorly 1 outa every 9 times it happens, but riot made sure to nerf stop watch 8 times so it could never happen again.
A good jungle will just lane gank. Now you have two situations: you try and keep the freeze but you have to threaten them off the wave (which opens you up to dying to the lane gank). Or let the enemy shove the wave under your tower, which will bounce back and open you up to a lane gank. Yeah... and jungler doesn’t lose shit for camping your lane cause camps are worthless.
Moody P (NA)
: Not a single one of these champions would appear in tank meta
Except most of them would...? Trundle always appears in tank metas. Garen and Darius are actually pretty decent against tanks because of their armour shred and/or true damage.
: Just got killed by a Twitch as Zed The assassin was outassassined by the fed ADC But we don't want assassins! It's the ADC meta boys! Don't wanna ruin that!
??? So you should be able to kill twitch simply because you’re Zed. Him being fed or anything else shouldn’t matter.
: Qiyana is made purely for the LCS viewership!
Immobile mage, like... Neeko? ?? ?
: > [{quoted}](name=420 grams,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qamsXbHM,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-08T16:57:11.964+0000) > > Isn't the most popular clip of LCS a clip of Faker on an immobile mage? > "LOOK AT THE CLEANSE! LOOK AT THE MOVES! FAKER!!!" That's Zed LOL.
And all his other biggest plays are on Orianna and Ryze. He has more games played on Ori in single season than he has on Zed his whole career (12 Zed games his whole career).
Saianna (EUNE)
: you think reddit riot mods will allow this thread? Last time I checked the censorship and "riot is god in disguise" hivemind made sure anything not within the flow of popular opinions is instantly either removed or hated and bashed to the point of being removed.
Reddit mods don't suck riot's dick though. They are just awful in general. Low effort shitposts or rageposts can make the front page but actual proper content and esports articles get removed because they don't like the creator or w.e. bullshit reason they can come up with to get a power trip.
: Why league of legends isn't fun.
Yes being super far ahead on certain champions means more than others. That is the nature of league. A 0/10 Morgana still provides good utility and CC, and even has respectable base damages. Whereas a 0/10 master Yi or Lucian are completely worthless to your team (ofc assuming the farm matches the score). You trade having that safety net of always being useful for carry potential if you get far ahead. Morgana isn’t an awful carry but obviously she shouldn’t have the carry capabilities of true carry champions like Akali. This stupid mentality of “everyone needs to be able to carry” is actually what’s wrong with the game. No ones stopping you from playing a primary carry.
: I was flamed for going aftershock lissandra after the runes reforged update... Apparently i was right lol.
> [{quoted}](name=Tahminatrix ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FNNG7Fpu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-29T19:45:15.578+0000) > > I was flamed for going aftershock lissandra after the runes reforged update... > > Apparently i was right lol. Tbh it was kind of troll right after runes reforged update. It only gave base 20mr/arm at that point until it got buffed _hard_. Also Comet, Aery, and Spellbook were _wayyy_ stronger before. But a build doesn’t need to be _optimal_ in general to be optimal for you. People under challenger aren’t complete players and will be better at certain aspects of the game than others. Like for example Trick2g has always had his random ass builds and playstyle that literally no one else does but it works for him.
: > [{quoted}](name=Disembark,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kp1FytKV,comment-id=0014,timestamp=2019-05-25T22:51:34.708+0000) > > You are a human being and therefore not consistent. You can play between a Plat 4 and Diamond 4 level depending on the day, how much you slept, how tilted you are, etc. Not to mention sometimes you get bad team mates too. And sometimes you can be a bit more lucky too. > > Ask yourself this: your accounts all seem to plateau at around the same rank. Why aren’t you hardstuck gold 4 in one of your accounts? Why isn’t one of your accounts stuck in silver? If the only thing that mattered was your team mates then your account ranks would be arbitrary. But you consistently hit the exact same rank (or around it) every time you play. I am pretty consistent with the way i play and how i play. The thing that bring me down is mostly my team feeding and me being unable to carry or them refusing to listen to good shot calling. Ye i have bad game's and play shit, but those are slim.
> [{quoted}](name=Son of spartar,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kp1FytKV,comment-id=00140000,timestamp=2019-05-25T23:39:31.910+0000) > > I am pretty consistent with the way i play and how i play. The thing that bring me down is mostly my team feeding and me being unable to carry or them refusing to listen to good shot calling. Ye i have bad game's and play shit, but those are slim. No one is wholly consistent. Even at the highest level pro players that practice for 10 hours a day aren’t consistent. Reality is that “feeding” isn’t the only way to have a bad game. You can also not take a good trade that’s presented to you because your mind is elsewhere. Miss a kill opportunity. Miss a roam opportunity. Mismanage your wave. Mismanage your back timing. Not anticipate enemy rotation to catch them out. This can all be better or worse from game to game or day to day. Depends on if you’re tilted, maybe you didn’t have enough sleep, maybe you just woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Doesn’t matter. No one is consistent. It’s the same reason you’ll never be stuck in Gold but can find yourself stuck in Plat, but peak around Diamond.
: So is climbing based on skill or is based on whom you get as team mates?
You are a human being and therefore not consistent. You can play between a Plat 4 and Diamond 4 level depending on the day, how much you slept, how tilted you are, etc. Not to mention sometimes you get bad team mates too. And sometimes you can be a bit more lucky too. Ask yourself this: your accounts all seem to plateau at around the same rank. Why aren’t you hardstuck gold 4 in one of your accounts? Why isn’t one of your accounts stuck in silver? If the only thing that mattered was your team mates then your account ranks would be arbitrary. But you consistently hit the exact same rank (or around it) every time you play.
: The largest problem with Yuumi now is that she has poor synergy with ADCs.
She has bad synergy with ADCs because she has negative peel. Her Q doesn’t slow at melee range, her E ms is laughable. Her legit best peel tool is her ultimate and even that is easy as shit to dodge. All I’m saying is that if you have worse peel than Sona, you need to bring something else to the table.
: First off it was one game, the first picture is before the second is after. You want more examples? Here you go have fun with em. https://imgur.com/E85scC7 https://imgur.com/W7YHx61 https://imgur.com/Q3UGXWu https://imgur.com/l3zpQn1 https://imgur.com/a/uXCdvuK Let me know if you want more examples. I have over 600 pictures of these games since Season 8 started,
How are these pictures supposed to be convincing me that it was a coin flip/your team lost you the game while you were carrying. Half those games looks like you’re doing just as bad or worse than ur team. But ok.
: {{champion:58}} can only bully if he is an item ahead, if he is bullying 1v3 then those 3 are either too underfed or playing that fight extremely wrong.
Depends on who the 3 are. A non-fed but not-behind Renekton can easily 1v3 at 2 items a Support+Jungle+ADC if he is able to 1-shot the ADC, depending on the support champ and jungle champ. (A Kaisa+Nami+Elise can easily get 1v3d with a small misstep from Kaisa, an Ezreal+Braum+Xhin will not).
: > [{quoted}](name=Disembark,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=lPOnLK0p,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-05-07T05:19:25.565+0000) > > How old is this screenshot? Seems super old, considering that Riot posted that they tweaked matchmaking in a post like 3 days ago. And you've only had Masters+ in most of ur past games. Not to mention in this SC you're 200LP down from ur current rank. So it seems like this is a super old screenshot. Why bring it up now? it's not super old, it was 9 days ago according to op.gg. and the gold 1 rengar seems to have high diamond/low master MMR according to his op.gg. My guess would be that he climbed to high diamond/master during preseason and then got bronze 1 or iron or smth at the start of the season due to the provisionals bug. Then he climbed to G1 from there playing against Diamond+ players.
> [{quoted}](name=cries in plat,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=lPOnLK0p,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2019-05-07T10:59:41.461+0000) > > it's not super old, it was 9 days ago according to op.gg. and the gold 1 rengar seems to have high diamond/low master MMR according to his op.gg. My guess would be that he climbed to high diamond/master during preseason and then got bronze 1 or iron or smth at the start of the season due to the provisionals bug. Then he climbed to G1 from there playing against Diamond+ players. and Riot said they tweaked matchmaking like 5 days ago. A lot of streamers have commented on it and are pretty happy with it.
: Fix ur match making
How old is this screenshot? Seems super old, considering that Riot posted that they tweaked matchmaking in a post like 3 days ago. And you've only had Masters+ in most of ur past games. Not to mention in this SC you're 200LP down from ur current rank. So it seems like this is a super old screenshot. Why bring it up now?
: > [{quoted}](name=How Do You Meta,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Rybiucjj,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-07T00:48:14.184+0000) > > He just played placements and has played a small pool of games. > If you played 3 games and lost 2, you'd have a 33% win rate. > If you won 1000 games and lost 1007, you would have a 49.8% win rate. > Law of small numbers doesn't hold much water. Yeah but still. Hes gold 2 if he he placed something like gold 1 maybe plat 4 (if his lp losses are huge). After 17 games with a 37% wr why isn't his mmr closer to his actual rank or even lover than his actual rank
> [{quoted}](name=ShirleyfG,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Rybiucjj,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T00:58:56.334+0000) > > Yeah but still. Hes gold 2 if he he placed something like gold 1 maybe plat 4 (if his lp losses are huge). > > After 17 games with a 37% wr why isn't his mmr closer to his actual rank or even lover than his actual rank What was his rank last season? If he lost all his placements he's probably much lower rank than his MMR.
: Mods can you please take care of the like bots
It also kind of shows the state of the boards. Not just bots, but people use their alts/friends/mains subreddit to upvote their threads. A single champion mains subreddit or discord can link a thread about their cause and make it seem like the “most urgent issue” in the community. Like when LL stylish even mentioned the boards for a stupid thread about him scripting (not even linking it or asking people to brigade boards), if even a tiny fraction of his 700k subs stick around, then suddenly the whole atmosphere/demographic of boards changes.
iPrawn (NA)
: Riot, please be honest with the estimated wait times on match finding.
I’ve never had an ARAM queue take longer than 2-3mim. Even if I’m duo/trio/quad/5stack. Usually pops within first 30 seconds. Only with dodges does queue time get above 3min.
: 20 games is hardly a reliable group of games to pull from if we're trying to be an actual analysis, in terms of relativity. And aiming for this not to be rank shaming, but I do think it is nessecary to point out this is the Silver and Gold crowd you're pulling from, and playing with. A lot of the folk in these elos aren't coordinated, nor understand, how to properly play safe when behind, or how to handle a fed carry on the opposing team. And that's not even mentioning the potential factor from soft-inting/giving up.
Not to mention is "analysis" is biased as shit. He'll literally call any champion mobile. Jhin? Mobile. Jinx? Mobile. Nocturne? Mobile. Pantheon? Mobile! Kayle? Mobile. I mean in this guy's book literally only Mordekaiser is immobile and every other champion in league is mobile. Not to mention "14-8" is snowballing out of control. Either Ezreal snowballed out of control early and you farmed shut downs off him. Or he didn't snowball and picked up all his kills later in the game which means he never snowballed at all. Wtf is this shit.
: Actual proof and analysis of snowball frequency
I guess Rengar/Fiddle/Nocturne/Jhin/Jinx are considered mobile in your book cause of speed boosts. I guess anyone who buys Phage is mobile. Volibear and Udyr are mobile too I guess. So is Garen. God damn mobility is out of control!
Terozu (NA)
: She now requires full cdr to achieve her previous 0 cdr cooldown.
Which is good. Because Riven now stacks 40% cdr much quicker than she used to. So the nerf puts her more in line with what she used to be.
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