ßlameMyADC (EUNE)
: [MUST SEE] MOST ILLOGICAL THING IN THE HISTORY OF THINGS MAYBE EVER
A Rioter in the skin department explained that Aurelion's….entire existence in the game is too similar to the Dark Star look....it'd essentially be a chroma for him seeing he's already made out of literal galaxies and stars.
: > [{quoted}](name=GreenLore,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=IcIcP6fw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-24T18:43:40.600+0000) > > I don't really feel like most Black Rose members are too dependent on the black rose. > Yes Lb stands above them in the hierarchy, but thats pretty natural for any organization. > > With that being said, I do feel like Elise is kinda redundant among the other black rose members. > I mean she is a seductive human/animal-hybrid who is obsessed with beauty, but thats basically{{champion:69}} already. Her sacrificing others in order to survive is likely done by {{champion:8}} too(not sure if it was ever explained how he remains alive, but I'm pretty sure he does it by draining blood from others). Yes LB is seemingly a bit higher in hierarchy but the flaw is that she appears to be absolutely uncontested in her position and that I do feel like Riot has done a bad job of not changing the perspective on that... She is still being challenged all the time and saying that she commands others is false and you can only detect that if you truly dive into the lore (which any reader is supposed to be able to identify immediately). I disagree, every member of the BR has something of value and Elise's connection to the SI and her bringing artifacts as well as her dominion over spiders are undoubtedly super helpful. Yes some aspects are shared between members but I would not say she is redundant... Even you saying she is redundant makes my case as she still has no real agenda or something that makes her a valuable individual for the BR and herself especially..
> [{quoted}](name=The Iceborn,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=IcIcP6fw,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-24T18:56:37.606+0000) > > Yes LB is seemingly a bit higher in hierarchy but the flaw is that she appears to be absolutely uncontested in her position and that I do feel like Riot has done a bad job of not changing the perspective on that... She is still being challenged all the time and saying that she commands others is false and you can only detect that if you truly dive into the lore (which any reader is supposed to be able to identify immediately). > > I disagree, every member of the BR has something of value and Elise's connection to the SI and her bringing artifacts as well as her dominion over spiders are undoubtedly super helpful. Yes some aspects are shared between members but I would not say she is redundant... Even you saying she is redundant makes my case as she still has no real agenda or something that makes her a valuable individual for the BR and herself especially.. Where you've gotten the idea that LeBlanc is challenged in her own organization is beyond me. I've yet to find anything within her lore or any piece relating to her that states she struggles for power. As for the champion members of the BR...you have to understand that anyone that is remotely related to LeBlanc is going to be miles below her in power/influence simply because that is what the Lore team intended her to be. This does not detract from Elise, Cass, and Vlad's inherent abilities....this only places LeBlanc above them, and rightfully so. In the case of Elise and LeBlanc, I've never gotten the vibe that Elise is made to be dependent on her/the BR. Elise could surely snatch any random civilian up and take them to the SI...but I've always gotten the vibe that Elise and LeBlanc have a sort of friendship, and that Elise takes the low-ranking BR sacrifices as a token of gratitude/goodwill. Seeing Elise is hundreds of years old, I find it hard to believe her and LeBlanc haven't sat down and chatted for a bit, or at the very least developed some sort of friendship. If anything, I'd expect Elise to be one of the highest-ranking/most respected members of the BR.
Atgo (EUW)
: While I doubt the BR planned Azir rising again, Cassiopeia and Soreana were doing their stuff in Shurima for the BR, they did the expedition to the capital on their own, but it wasnt a completly change of plans, they just speed up things. Their bio implies the BR wanted to get to Shurima for a long time: > Having guided the empire for centuries, they had **finally managed** to spread their influence into Shurima. This bit basically confirms the BR was wanting somethign in Shurima: > Only then was Cassiopeia made privy to** the cabal’s broader plan for Shurima**. Using her family’s tremendous resources, she undertook a number of expeditions into the deep desert, raiding ancient ruins with the help of a local mercenary named Sivir. This is also important because it shows that Cassiopeia had actually been searching for things in Shurima for a long time before she went to the capital. > **Her efforts were made all the more urgent** when word reached Urzeris from the capital. Grand General Boram Darkwill had been deposed by Jericho Swain, and a number of noble houses had chosen to honor this coup… including Du Couteau. > > Outraged and disgusted by her husband’s betrayal, and **fearing that all members of the Black Rose were now in jeopardy, Soreana became desperate. **She dispatched Cassiopeia to seek out the** godlike power that had been the key to Shurima’s supremacy in ages past.** Cassiopeia swore she would return with **a weapon ready for the looming secret war**, or not at all. ________________ > It was not the Ascension she had hoped for, but Cassiopeia had unearthed the magic of dead Shuriman gods. She would **turn it to the schemes of the Black Rose just as she and her mother had planned**, and she could feel this power growing within her, day by day. Those quotes clearly shows the expedition to the capital was still a part of BR plans, they needed more preparation and acted on their own, but the entire act was meant to get power for the BR. The third bit I destacated also implies that they had knowledge of the Shuriman empire, which makes sense, the BR has some extremly ancient members and one of them served an Ascended in life({{champion:8}}), they have been searching for powerful magic and the knowledge needed to find and use it for centuries, getting knowledge about Shurima would be inevitable. So yeah, while it's unlikely Azir coming back was planned by anyone, the Black Rose definetly knew about Imperial Shurima ancient powers and were planning to get it for themselves.
> [{quoted}](name=Atgo,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=IEVs1mVl,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-18T20:56:46.812+0000) > > While I doubt the BR planned Azir rising again, Cassiopeia and Soreana were doing their stuff in Shurima for the BR, they did the expedition to the capital on their own, but it wasnt a completly change of plans, they just speed up things. Their bio implies the BR wanted to get to Shurima for a long time: > > This bit basically confirms the BR was wanting somethign in Shurima: > > This is also important because it shows that Cassiopeia had actually been searching for things in Shurima for a long time before she went to the capital. > > ________________ > > Those quotes clearly shows the expedition to the capital was still a part of BR plans, they needed more preparation and acted on their own, but the entire act was meant to get power for the BR. The third bit I destacated also implies that they had knowledge of the Shuriman empire, which makes sense, the BR has some extremly ancient members and one of them served an Ascended in life({{champion:8}}), they have been searching for powerful magic and the knowledge needed to find and use it for centuries, getting knowledge about Shurima would be inevitable. > > So yeah, while it's unlikely Azir coming back was planned by anyone, the Black Rose definetly knew about Imperial Shurima ancient powers and were planning to get it for themselves. If the BR have been in search for the ancient magic that existed in Shurima, and knowing LeBlanc is running this whole show, I wonder if this means the power of the ascended/Sun Disc is the only thing powerful enough to stop Mordekaiser from either returning or stop him period. I'd gamble that LeBlanc doesn't want Mordekaiser returning. Considering that she is privy to exuberant amounts of knowledge, she probably knows Mordekaiser isn't truly dead and is trying to reach back into the physical realm....
Riot Pls (NA)
: Future Stories
Please please PLEASE! Delve more into LeBlanc. We know so little about her actual person and it’s kind of frustrating. I have a bunch of questions that I hope could be answered in a short story for or about her! Has LeBlanc been around even before Mordekaiser came along? What prompted LeBlanc to betray Mordekaiser? What sort of magic/feats is LeBlanc capable of other than illusions? Also where did she acquire her talent for magic/illusions? Is the Pale Woman another legend of Valoran like Kindred? Does each region have their own idea/image of the Pale Woman? As it appears that LeBlanc is playing the long game, surely she knows about the void, and what are her thoughts of it? What does LeBlanc gain by having full autonomy over the Immortal Bastion? Is LeBlanc a gray character in which she commits small and extensively numerous amounts of evil and atrocities in order to achieve a greater good? (She did after all essentially save Valoran from Mordekaiser, even if it was/could have been for personal gain) Is LeBlanc aware of Lissandra’s true nature? Seeing that LeBlanc is essentially omnipresent, surely she’s been privy to a few, many dark secrets such as Lissandra’s. Seeing that she orchestrated the invasion of Ionia, was there something in Ionia that LeBlanc wanted? Is there anyone that LeBlanc trusts, especially within the Black Rose? And lastly, what could possibly be LeBlanc’s endgame? What angle is she working at? What is it that LeBlanc is willing to invade nations, sacrifice thousands, backstab, manipulate, lie, and deceive for? {{champion:7}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:7}}
: That HAS to have been either Mecha Sol or Dunkmaster Ivern. There's just no other answer. Or a similarly flopped release a longer time ago.
> [{quoted}](name=KestrelGirl,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=PAEEsOvZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-15T01:31:43.657+0000) > > That HAS to have been either Mecha Sol or Dunkmaster Ivern. There's just no other answer. Or a similarly flopped release a longer time ago. Stellari was quite clear in saying that the skin they were referring to was great.
: Do you feel weaker and stronger with certain types of skins?
I can't play LeBlanc if its not Elderwood. And Ravenborn is my favorite :(
Rioter Comments
: Psst, Riot: WE GET IT.
It's about time Riot started progressing with the lore.... I think it is safe to say we have more than enough _**backstory**_ on the lore. I want to see champions crossing paths, the politics progressing, even people **_dying._** As cool as it is to drop lore bombs relating to the past, those bombs only last so long until it really doesn't matter.
Rioter Comments
: LeBlanc color story: Thorns of the Black Rose
She really needs a VGU...not as much as other champions obviously but she has so. much. potential. This story just added to that potential!
: Weekly reminder that Riot removed ARAM bans because ARAM account users weren't happy about it
Question, excuse my ignorance but what exactly is the issue with ARAM only accounts?
: LEAK FROM THE NEW CHAMP YUUMI!!!!!
Its about damn time it got leaked, Riot has taken **_way_** too long to even give a teaser for her.
Rioter Comments
: Please wait for Morgana mid's pick rate to rise before nerfing her W's AP ratio.
Morgana mid is viable for once in **_five years_** but OH WE CAN'T HAVE THAT! Unbelievable. Unwarranted nerf.
Rioter Comments
: The Black Rose..?
I truly wish Riot would take advantage of such an interesting part of the lore. A political cabal filled with dark nobles, sorcerers and sorceresses? Sign me up. Not to mention this same cabal is led by an ageless witch who brought down Runeterra's most powerful warlord while jumpstarting the Noxian empire AND manipulates the events of Runeterra? SIGN. ME. UP. Mordekaiser's update better give us extra info on... 1. Morde's relationship with LeBlanc. 2. Whether or not the Black Rose existed at the time of Mordekaiser's reign. In a future lore update (praying for a Noxian champion soon) I hope we find out just how involved the Black Rose is in the events of Runeterra and what their true end game is. I mean come on, this could be the Illuminati of League.
Terozu (NA)
: So Morgana is the Veiled Lady? And Aspect powers can be hereditary?
I don't recall the mention of a Veiled Lady in anyone's lore unless I'm just plain daft... Unless I'm wrong, perhaps you're thinking of the Pale Woman/Lady aka {{champion:7}} ?
: Coven Shaco
@riot do it. I fucking dare you. DO IT.
Moody P (NA)
: cosmic horror not part of it? seems pretty horror-like to me what with him being the Borg and all
> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=rQHy61qx,comment-id=00030004,timestamp=2019-03-02T23:27:54.534+0000) > > cosmic horror not part of it? seems pretty horror-like to me what with him being the Borg and all key word is cosmic.
: Who do you think needs VGU or VU’s?
Good lord please give {{champion:7}} a VU! She has so much potential for who she is...
Fasmodey (EUW)
: Kayle and Morgana Special Interactions
That little line Morgana has to LeBlanc... Why even include LeBlanc if she doesn't have some sort of association with Morgana/Demacia as a whole?
: Elderwood Needs to be introduced again
After its reboot with the Coven theme, it would be, to put it frankly, stupid for Riot to not capitalize on this high-fantasy theme that resonated with so many. Yes the future-techno skins are nice and sell well, but the hype that Leona, Camille, and Lissandra got surpasses that of the hype that any Program or (recent) PROJECT skin received.
: prestige prestigious leblanc
and its still better than Program.
ErÕS (NA)
: Awaken - Karma & Kennen
Its so unfortunate that the Karma Riot wants to promote doesn't actually exist. They gave her a half-assed VGU and dipped.
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: They need to start kissing some Lissandra ass, Poor girl hasnt been in one REAL cinematic... :( Im glad camille got one tho, she looked like she is running this place :D
> [{quoted}](name=The Iceborn,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=r9k2gfTV,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-01-21T13:40:18.537+0000) > > They need to start kissing some Lissandra ass, Poor girl hasnt been in one REAL cinematic... :( > Im glad camille got one tho, she looked like she is running this place :D No but seriously a lil promo cinematic with Lissandra's fuckin spooky ass emerging from a fog just gliding on ice shards with the Frostguard behind her? God damn...
: Hard or soft magic systems?
I really would like to know what {{champion:7}} 's magic is to be exact and the extent of it. She's prolonged her life for at least a thousand years, has appeared in multiple places at once + as different people...etc...
: THEORY: Is RIOT intentionally screwing up the game? (kinda but not really outrage marketing)
Some people call it ruining the game, I believe Riot calls it marketing to a new demographic. My intention with what I'm about to say isn't to sound condescending or demean anyone here....but Riot just might not want certain people (like those on these boards) playing as the majority. In fact, if this theory of mine were to be or is true, I think they've been successful in their goal because these boards have become a vocal minority. Many of you on here say this game is going to ruin and that if Riot keeps this up the game will die, and yet this game is still considered the quintessential product in the gaming industry. What I think the boards fail to understand is that Riot is not the same company it was back in Seasons 2,3,4,5...etc...they had to manage a smaller player base which contributed to their work ethic as compared to today. Now they have to manage tens of millions of players who all have different ideas of how the game should be. And the same 200-400 people on these boards, who've been playing since those earlier seasons, expect the game to be exactly as it used to be. That is delusional. I am not here to shit on these boards but you people just beat a dead horse. I'm not going to say "just quit lol" or "git gud," but these boards need to take a minute and look at their situation. The influence the boards have is...meager at best. That's just for Gameplay. The constant whining and shitting on Riot isn't helping your situation.
: Which champion lore wise is your favourite and why
{{champion:7}} Immortal sorceress who betrayed a powerful warlord and jumpstarted the creation of an empire all while maintaining control over the politics of Runeterra? LeBlanc is serving us what we deserve. {{champion:127}} Bad bitch in general.
: 2018 Lore Party Thread! Free-For-All Time
I really want to see LeBlanc's place in Runeterra elaborated on! We really should get to know her more than we do.
: I’m grateful for Nunu & Willump
Bless you and your wife, as well as your son. It brings me joy to know you have a way to cope through something as simple as a character in an online game. I wish for you and your wife good fortune and happiness. It is what you deserve most. <3
: Janna VU Concept
Its time Riot starts considering VU's again. Ezreal and possibly Morgana could be full proof that these could be very successful and perhaps lucrative experiments.
: Some thoughts on more dated female champions, from a girl
LeBlanc mains have been begging for ~~a good skin~~ a VU for a while now and we absolutely ADORE Riot Hylia's concept.
: Coven Skins
LOOOOVEEEE this skinline. Its so refreshing.
CytheGuy (NA)
: Kinda fun to watch the Boards right about now
love watching this place explode over the smallest things.
  Rioter Comments
: we're trying to get them to do something, its actually how the game was made in the 1st place, community input, not just HAIL TENCENT
> [{quoted}](name=Zybertooth,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=o6ErsAeh,comment-id=001c0001,timestamp=2018-11-24T08:37:31.527+0000) > > we&#x27;re trying to get them to do something, its actually how the game was made in the 1st place, community input, not just HAIL TENCENT And I understand that but the dozens of "rito balance team bad me want new one grr >:(((((((((" posts that are made and stupidly upvoted every week aren't doing anything. They just invalidate the overarching argument more and more. Every League-related media platform outside these forums, laugh at y'all because of the absolute ridiculousness and repetitiveness you guys exemplify.
KevinLui (NA)
: e gril shut yer bi ass up you succ riot's small pp.
> [{quoted}](name=KevinLui,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=o6ErsAeh,comment-id=001c0000,timestamp=2018-11-24T05:34:07.913+0000) > > e gril shut yer bi ass up you succ riot&#x27;s small pp. Not an e girl but okay! Just keep making yourselves and this cult on the boards look even more stupid than y'all are!
: Dont fucking comment on forum posts when u have 0 clue about the game and ur obviously a casual player
> [{quoted}](name=Purification1,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=o6ErsAeh,comment-id=001c0002,timestamp=2018-11-24T09:07:26.481+0000) > > Dont fucking comment on forum posts when u have 0 clue about the game and ur obviously a casual player ??????????????????? The amount of absolute foolishness in your comment is incredible. I've been playing this game for years, don't assume that because my opinion is different from yours that I don't know what I am talking about. Your idiocy just proves the mentality of this cult that exists on the boards. You people do nothing but bounce the same rhetoric off the walls and validate each other by upvoting one another and downvoting anyone who has a slightly different opinion. If the game were so shitty as people say it is, League of Legends wouldn't be the highest grossing online game on the market. Take a seat boy.
: Dear santa Riot, for christmas i would like a new balance team
Do y'all get tired of making these posts? Meanwhile the rest of the community just keeps moving on....the same 150+ who lurk on this board keep upvoting each other when y'all say the exact same things with no substance. You have to understand that all of your complaints are subjective. You and the other 150+ people on this board may hate the amount of damage in the game currently. But another unknown, definitely more than 150+ people think the game is fine. Is the game what it used to be? No. But at the same time, neither is its audience. And before y'all get angry, to an extent, I agree with some points but these posts are just used and tired at this point. I literally laugh every time I see one of these posts because they're so ridiculously recycled. Outside of these forums, you people are laughed at. Perhaps try a different approach.
: Implying LB mains are going to buy that poor excuse of a skin LMAO, sorry but we LB mains have standards.
> [{quoted}](name=NoWigsLeftToFly,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VYTKrMgM,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-11-16T01:27:38.007+0000) > > Implying LB mains are going to buy that poor excuse of a skin LMAO, sorry but we LB mains have standards. Omg literally tea.
: They gave LB a skin, I'm giving her the permaban.
Yeah no need to ban her tbh. We all hate that skin at r/LeBlanc mains.
: Leblanc is such a great design.
hHHUHhhHhhhh assassin r bad >;( rito nerf!!!!!!!!
: Skins that will sell very poorly
Program LeBlanc is going to flop so hard compared to other sales.
Fleiryn (EUW)
: I would love to see more fantasy thematic skins instead of ugly mechanical robotic whatever
> [{quoted}](name=Fleiryn,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Yo1l9OQ0,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-11-09T08:07:21.805+0000) > > I would love to see more fantasy thematic skins instead of ugly mechanical robotic whatever This. Its not that the robo-mechanical skins are necessarily bad, they're just uninspired at this point. It feels like they come out of a conveyor belt in a Hasbro factory and overpriced for what they are.
: I think I'm in love
**_This is what we've been wanting, not the uninspired robo-cyborg stuff that's been pumped out over and over again..._**
Vekkna (NA)
: Coven: Skins Team at the top of their game!
Something that isn't robotic or futuristic! Nut.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Shooktopus,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=UjbfEJJN,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-31T19:57:17.611+0000) > > Lovely LeBlanc splash. > > Too bad the skin and entire theme itself isn&#x27;t wanted. keep whining.
> [{quoted}](name=JhonTeemon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=UjbfEJJN,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-11-01T11:24:59.060+0000) > > keep whining. Didn't ask for your input.
: Program Nami and LeBlanc splashes!
Lovely LeBlanc splash. Too bad the skin and entire theme itself isn't wanted.
: Program Leblanc Serious Criticisms and Suggestions
The whole thing just needs to be trashed. This skin was a low-effort, "Shut the hell up here's a skin so stop bitching" scenario to get LeBlanc mains to shut up for the next however many years they decide to not give her a skin. They know damn well based on the subreddit that hundreds of LeBlanc mains and counting have all agreed over the fact that they do not want a futuristic skin for their champion. And look at what Riot does. Many are already saying they will not be purchasing the skin regardless of the chromas she's getting. Even if LeBlanc mains DID want a futuristic skin, compared to most and the other Program skins, this skin in particular is severely below Riot's standards and the skin team should be disappointed in themselves.
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