: Twisted Fate [Rework Concept]
Is the passive like Pyke's or does TF get to double dip on AD and AP?
: > [{quoted}](name=Doozku,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LRBQsHtH,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2018-05-16T01:19:05.313+0000) > > Did the moderators send you any message with that? For being "communists" they sure due act a lot like facsists > > But I don't want this thread to get political, let's keep it down in case the friendly mods over here catch wind {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} No messages, lol *gets banned for saying lol*
: I could of said it was a shortsword and not had this problem. I base the champion heavily off the image, and the image does have a short sword. Its less of muh Oriental weapons look like muh anime, and more like lets try to make something other than a simple short sword. Even more specifically, the sword has a curve to it, and so does the Uchigatana. I really didnt put alot of the desire to make it oriental for some specific reason honestly.
Perhaps you could have some other non-eastern curved weapon like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopis maybe Though from what I'm gathering you weren't the one to draw the picture so I guess its understandable. Though the picture looks more Ionian than Targon anyways. He looks partially based off of Indian religions like Hinduism and partially based of off japanese culture, both of which are asian cultures.
Evalion (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Doozku,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LRBQsHtH,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-05-15T21:22:46.555+0000) > > This thread is the league of legends equivalent of r/LateStageCapitalism > > Aka a brainless circle jerk with no substance or no room for discussion because any dissenting opinion will be downvoted to hell. Has a Kayn icon... meaning a distant cousin of Yasuo and Zed mains. Go away...
Hoping this is ironic. I have a Kayn icon but I don't actually play Kayn. Last time I played him was yesterday.
: dude don't get r/LateStageCapitalism into this, r/The_Donald is even more fascist if you ask me
: The discussion is over. Has been for awhile. Riot is just too slow to catch up to reality.
: > [{quoted}](name=Doozku,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LRBQsHtH,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-05-15T21:22:46.555+0000) > > This thread is the league of legends equivalent of r/LateStageCapitalism > > Aka a brainless circle jerk with no substance or no room for discussion because any dissenting opinion will be downvoted to hell. I like this comment. Reminds me How I got banned from latestagecapitalism for saying "lol" in one thread. Thats it. "Lol"
Did the moderators send you any message with that? For being "communists" they sure due act a lot like facsists But I don't want this thread to get political, let's keep it down in case the friendly mods over here catch wind {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Bilizver (EUNE)
: As mage player banning Yasuo is more satisfying than winning the game
This thread is the league of legends equivalent of r/LateStageCapitalism Aka a brainless circle jerk with no substance or no room for discussion because any dissenting opinion will be downvoted to hell.
: Pyke's Passive and Gold Efficiency
I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that the conversion would be gold inefficient, because they don't want Pyke to build defensive items outside of a few support items like sightstone that he may like.
: >"When a champion dies in the X, the last ally to assist also gains full kill gold, and Pyke can instantly use _Death from Below_ again for a short period of time." "X marks the spot where the traitor lies X marks the spot where the traitor lies X marks the spot where the traitor lies" Please no.
I should have elaborated. He should only say it when he either kills one target or after he finishes resetting.
higura (EUW)
: ...i mean...it is riot balance team we are talking about here...
Even riot balance team isn't that stupid
: It's such a crime that adc's abuse a tanky item to survive the amount of one shot assassins in the game, so they remove all quests, forever making support items a joke again, but no one bats an eye when half the ezreal players build an iceborn gauntlet becoming unkillable when combined with his flash on a 10 second cooldown.
Except support items aren't a joke and the fact that ADCs abused it wasn't the sole reason why it was removed.
: Yeah, every time she gets CS with her Q she should gets some type of currency. She could then exchange 500 of these points to upgrade her W. Also instead of having point and click 3 hit passive, what if it was harder for Vayne to proc her W damage? Like imagine, what if her W allowed her to place a barrel, and she could connect barrels and blow them up using her auto attacks or Q. If a barrel connects on an enemy then they get hit with her W passive - doing massive damage. But not true damage. However, to deal with tanks it should ignore a %of armour if she connects her barrels... idk... maybe 40%?
Hmmm. What if they made her melee but put her auto-attack on a ranged ability... And what if they gave her a cc cleanse and global ultimate? Nah, that'd be too op. /s
: I have an idea for a vayne W change...
I like this idea but I fear that it would make her too generalist. Right now she's _supposed_ to be more of a pure tank killer though she's historically had problems with her ability to burst squishies.
Rioter Comments
nm1010 (NA)
: Only time will tell his actual numbers, but this doesn't look like "He doesn't have his own damage" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5rPJulCKXs
I think that he was referring to more in lane. I think Pykes lane will play like Thresh but he trades safety and utility for more aggressive play making and roam spells (as well as sustain) I don't think we're going to see big damage until he gets some items.
: > [{quoted}](name=IainG10,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VKlOAo2Y,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2018-05-15T09:44:55.703+0000) > > He has more going for him as a support than {{champion:63}} does or {{champion:1}} did..... > > Also, {{champion:6}} (tank marksman), and every engage tank support plus {{champion:497}} (diver supports) say hi.... Nonsense. Annie, Brand, Zyra, and Vel’koz are not designed to be supports at all, and do nothing to support their team outside of generic CC. Urgot is a juggernaut, not a tank, he’s about dealing some ranges damage while being durable, not shredding the enemy team while also distrupting all of them. Raman is not a Diver, he’s a distrupter support. Just because certain champions like assassins, some tanks and some mages dive, doesn’t mean you can categorize them like that. For 60 IQ, refer to divers as fighters, and diving as a strategy/playstyle
> Annie, Brand, Zyra, and Vel’koz are not designed to be supports at all, and do nothing to support their team outside of generic CC. And yet, most of these champs are still played bot lane as _supports. _
: Okay. While he'll be doing pretty much straight true damage, you're ignoring the fact that half of that is actually just him reducing your armor, not true damage, meaning Tabis and Randuin's still work. ***And that he'll be critting for only 50% bonus damage, rather than 100% bonus damage***. You seem to forget that instance. 20% true damage conversion to someone who already has 20% true damage conversion from conquerer **and** has 50% bonus armor pen from ult is worth significantly less than 25% more damage, unless you're looking at a Thresh in a 4 hour game. There is ***no possible way*** for Yasuo to come out ahead from the crit rework.
Personally I feel like Yasuo could use a mini-rework after pre-season that deals with bow wonkily he interacts with the new items. Keep his ability to increase crit but make it have its synergy with IE be less confusing, and change his ult from flat pen to something else.
: I love how he looks, and they may need to tweak parts of his kit, but i would have to say I agree with the OP. We don't want another AP Rakan on our hands (they've still not fixed him :S)
Catalin10GG (EUNE)
: Pyke’s mask
For some reason it reminds me of bowser jr. Looking like Bowser jr is not a good thing when you are supposed to be threatening.
: I would assume that he would have less issues with gold when played properly, considering he gets full kill gold if he's playing correctly (and if the enemies don't respect him enough) Plus you could probably just build the upgraded support item (the 800 gold or whatever) and then just go for duskblade.
I mean more like him needing to rush lethality would mean that he doesnt get the vision control from building a sightstone, and whether or not that would prove to be a big problem or not much of an issue.
: so correct me if im wrong, if im pyke, with an allied darius going in to kill poppy, and I ult her for the execute. so I gain the full kill gold, while darius gains full kill gold, plus the assist kill gold? so it would be worth 1.5x the assist for an ally right? or does it work because he was given the credit in addition to it, we both gain assist gold?
No I think he just gets full kill gold. It says that an ally also gets the gold on top of you, not that they also get kill gold with assist gold.
Rioter Comments
: Now that Yasuo has reached pick or ban status in pro play...
They aren't going to touch him until the mid-season changes because they will want to see where he lands with them. Though everyone's saying it's going to be a buff, I have a feeling that mid-season is going to be a nerd to Yasuo.
Reav3 (NA)
: Internally we usually buy stuff like Duskblade and Ghostblade which are both really good on Pyke
"Omfg report the support building lethality gg."but for real though wouldnt a build like this cost you the vision control from sightstone? Was this a big problem in your testing? Edit: Also gown does draven passive interact with his ultimate? If you get the boosted kill from his ult does it go to your KD or does it show as an assist?
: I guess the gold assist only counts for the last ally that hit the enemy champion.
Oh yeah I didn't see that part where it was only the last ally.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: Pyke, the Bloodharbor Ripper
Wondering what kind of items a support Assassin would build. ~~Also the ability to give _his entire team_ full gold from kills sounds insane. In a late game teamfight you can basic at multiply kill gold by 5 (though I'm not sure exactly how much gold assists give already so it might not be as good as I think.)~~ It only applies for the last ally to hit the enemy so not as good as I thought. Still though I can imagine for the first week you being flamed by your ADC Vayne for "always ksing". Hell, I bet you are going to be flamed regardless because "Puke ruined my kda) says the 0/6/20 Draven (actually shit how does that interact with Draven passive)
Altiverse (EUNE)
: Unpopular opinion: Unpopular opinions aren't unpopular
Unpopular opinion: Yasuo is fair and people who hate him are just whiny players who are bad at the game and use him as a scapegoat
Rouwhorst (EUW)
: That's one possibility, another is that all the people that complained about the state of the game really went away or are done posting as they have said all they had to say.
> [{quoted}](name=Rouwhorst,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=tE2wrYIH,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2018-05-12T21:16:52.053+0000) > > That's one possibility, another is that all the people that complained about the state of the game really went away or are done posting as they have said all they had to say. Good one
: Is chogath not a tank? I dont see him on your list
He's considered a catcher which puts him alongside enchanters
: > [{quoted}](name=Jbels,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=atEPp6uN,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-05-12T16:38:23.458+0000) > > I know right? And when are they going to clarify that Janna is actually an adc? No no, clearly you're delusional. Janna is definitely a red mage.
You high? Janna's clearly a rush down character, though some people like to play her as a zoner.
ITZAL (EUW)
: Early game is not level 1 , early game is ~ the first 10 min of the game ~ , even a bronze player can avoid lvl 1 by staying at tower
He's really strong throughout the lane because if he takes your burst he can sustain damage you down super hard with Q spam and he almost never runs out of mana unless you toggle your E on too long. He's weak to champions who can just burst him too hard or more specifically mobile champions like Yasuo or Kassadin that can easily evade his Qs. Source: IIRC: Katharsus is the name of a Karthus youtuber whose also the mod for the Karthus mains discord and he brings up several challenger karthus mains who play him like a lane bully.
: You are correct. I think his post stems mainly from his second point rather than the initial part. However he isn't weak early. Karthus is weak, kog maw is weak. Yasuo I would rate his early game as decent rather than weak Then he buys phantom dancer and you may as well afk. You're just as helpful afk as you are as a bank with no security
Karthus is not weak early, he's actually one of if not the best champions in the game at level 1.
: Does the new champ look like old swain
He kinda reminds of singed, though I can see the comparison with old Swain.
Kelg (NA)
: anyone else think the new champ should have horror music when hes chasing you down at low health?
: yeah sadly it was also a 2v1 and he was sitting at like 150hp the whole time, kept pistol hopping over tiny walls
That must have been literally 2 minutes you chasing that Kled, a champion who has the slowest movespeed in the game. I really want to see a replay of that for the memes.
: When your up 20 cs top
> 35 Upvotes > > 1 Comment How?
Skorch (NA)
: Theorise on what theme Pykes skin will be.
I'm betting some sort of dark demonic skin. Also a blood moon skin would literally be perfect for this guy.
Zika Star (EUW)
: the NEW Pyke is another Kayn ???
I think he has some connection to the Shadow Isles. He might appear like a normal human above water, but when he goes underwater he transforms into a ghost or a monster.
: >IP My face when you said IP. https://media.giphy.com/media/iAYupOdWXQy5a4nVGk/giphy.gif
{{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} Guess I'm still living in the past {{sticker:sg-zephyr}}
: Who else is hyped about the new champion? [Pyke: The Bloodharbor Ripper]
Riot might finally convince me to spend my IP on a support.
: I prefer the darkest themes in the game,at least the old ones (old harrowing Vs new) I am so fucking hyped for this champion,they said it's a support,tho it feels much more like an assassin to me
Supp Assassin hybrid. Read the thread above. Edit: My mobile keyboard changed my intended wording here and flipped some of the sentences so I ended up sounding like an ass. Sorry!
Rhaąst (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Rhaąst,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=RFIM2pE5,comment-id=000a0001,timestamp=2018-05-10T18:17:51.558+0000) > > How do you know it's a support it looks like an assassin Just kidding it is a support
To your credit, I think that it was leaked that he's going to be an Assassin support hybrid whose ultimate is an execute like Darius's which shares gold with the ADCs.
Doozku (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Hydroxlic,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=lHiIcgup,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2018-05-10T17:49:43.255+0000) > > That looks exactly like a hook champ, he literally ties someone up well drowning them. But the teaser did originally say something about making enemies drown. > Edit: And that is a lot of hooks in the end picture before it zooms into his face. Hm, first time I saw the trailer I thought that was a knife but if it's a hook I can see him being a hook champ even though I feel like that would be kinda lame because there's only so much you can do by using essentially the same spell so many times. Maybe they'll give it a cool twist like having his hook on a string that he can curve like Diana's Q or something.
Hm, first time I saw the trailer I thought that was a knife but if it's a hook I can see him being a hook champ even though I feel like that would be kinda lame because there's only so much you can do by using essentially the same spell so many times. Maybe they'll give it a cool twist like having his hook on a string that he can curve like Diana's Q or something. Edit, rewatched the trailer and saw the books and knives. Maybe hybrid Assassin/hook supp?
: > [{quoted}](name=Doozku,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=lHiIcgup,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-05-10T17:23:25.744+0000) > > Really cool though he looks so much like an Assassin that I wonder how they are going to make him work as a support without killing the thematic. He doesn't look like he'd fit good as a hook support like Thresh and if hes just like Rakan I'll be disappointed. That looks exactly like a hook champ, he literally ties someone up well drowning them. But the teaser did originally say something about making enemies drown. Edit: And that is a lot of hooks in the end picture before it zooms into his face.
> [{quoted}](name=Hydroxlic,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=lHiIcgup,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2018-05-10T17:49:43.255+0000) > > That looks exactly like a hook champ, he literally ties someone up well drowning them. But the teaser did originally say something about making enemies drown. > Edit: And that is a lot of hooks in the end picture before it zooms into his face. Hm, first time I saw the trailer I thought that was a knife but if it's a hook I can see him being a hook champ even though I feel like that would be kinda lame because there's only so much you can do by using essentially the same spell so many times. Maybe they'll give it a cool twist like having his hook on a string that he can curve like Diana's Q or something.
: You very clearly didn't say that it looked like Urgot here, you said something like "give me another retard". People look forward to new champs and it's unfair to immediately say something is retarded or stupid or bad just from the teaser trailer. It's like saying Avengers Infinity War is crap because the commercial wasn't what you wanted. Just take a breath, it's the internet and you can have your own opinion, but others get theirs as well. Opinions are like buttholes, everyone's got one and they all think their's doesn't stink.
He editted the comment. The original was pretty chill but then he flipped out I guess.
: NEW CHAMPION - OH $H!T
Really cool though he looks so much like an Assassin that I wonder how they are going to make him work as a support without killing the thematic. He doesn't look like he'd fit good as a hook support like Thresh and if hes just like Rakan I'll be disappointed.
: Oh, he supports his team... By murdering all that intend them bad will.
Inb4 he's an Assassin that gives his ADC a shield when he kills the target... Wait... Riot?... Please don't...
Tialilia (EUW)
: Pyke: The Bloodharbor Ripper | New Champion Teaser - League of Legends
He looks soo badass. Shame such a cool looking character has to be a support. He would make such a good Assassin. Edit: Apparently it was leaked that he's going to be hybrid Assassin who shares gold with ADCs for kills and builds lethality.
: I think it's great that Crit is becoming a purely late game stat but...
There was a really good post on the boards the other day that said that these changes are basically just going to bring the old BOTRK BC/Lethality ADC meta we had last year when crit was really bad. I have a feeling that ADCs are still going to be strong AF in the early game now though the builds and champs will stay the same.
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