Jamaree (NA)
: The next time you find a champion OP, do yourself a favor and play.
You're not going to learn enough that way. The game favors one tricks. Its better to dodge a shitgame than get frustrated because riot buffed vayne or zed for the nth time.
: Just realized why Riot might want a forced 50% win rate on people
You're assuming that riot is competent enough to affect the game in a desired direction. Most of the issues with the matchmaker this season are due to the shifting of tiers to include Iron and GM. In the process, they broke it. In short, they haven't purposefully steered your games into total not worth a shit territory, they're just really really bad at maths.
Ironmad (EUNE)
: Buffs and Nerfs from patches 8.1 - 9.8
{{champion:238}} +14, no surprise there. Faker, what is that!? ITS WELFARE AND A NEW $KIN.
: he gets buffs to literally everything else that is not w an ally. riot should've gutted devour in like season 6
His damage on W is a nerf, both for spitting minions and for attacking enemy champions. Suck shit riot.
: I am Silver II and a couple games ago everybody in the match was gold or higher except for one other person. There was a Platinum on the enemy team. 8/10 people were mismatched, or based on perspective, 2/10 were. I won't even complain about that because that apparently goes nowhere. All I will ask is give me a Platinum on my team too.
Most of my games will be myself and 4 feeders against a team that's got 2 or 3 killers on it. Just had another couple of them.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dope Solo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2BvwEcsm,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-04-20T02:25:01.588+0000) > > What did you do riot? Damn I though you were just whining but your match history, your are consistently matched up with higher tear players and the enemy having silvers that usually smash lane. Doesnt show to happen every game but is showing is most of your games. Your teams "average" vs theirs doesn't really matter even though I believe thats how the game works. If your teams average is based on all low lvl bronze and the enemy has low bronze/unranked/then a silver, especially silver 1, that swings one lane into a huge adv that can snowball crazy. Looks like some unfair match ups to me. I didnt super analyze your history this is just how it appears to me at a glance. One question are you duo'ing? I do konw if you duo que the game will pit you against harder people. Edit: Even though I understand your frustration, I am not the person that programmed this game and do not know if it is actually working in a fair manner. It may be and your just unlucky. I've had 10 game in a row losses, happens. However, Your title is aggressive and unnecessary. As a programmer myself when getting feedback seeing a title like that just makes me mad and I just move along. You can get your point across without abrasive words.
Not duoing. Game has been a smashout either way. So many 4-feeder vs 4-real player matchups its just sad win or lose.
Mortdog (NA)
: In game if you mouse over the Howling Abyss buff, it will show if your champ has any adjustments. I'd love to get more info in the client/champ select as well, but currently no plans to do so.
Can you make any comment on the state of the matchmaker?
Bazerka (NA)
: Disclaimer - obviously there are different interpretations of this, and this is a deeply personal response. Thats all :) I totally understand what you’re feeling. For me its specifically the added pressure to “perform” in League. The longer I play, the more the “innocence” of my play changes and gets slightly more jaded. It turns from “I’m exploring and having fun” to “I have to be good because -X- streamer or pro player is this good, so obviously I have to do that”. Theres a few things to break down here, but at least for me the first thing is that **all** of those thought patterns are rooted in pride. Deep down, I believe I **deserve** to be good at League, and any change meta balance issue, etc that causes me to lose turns from a “that sucks” into a “I’m offended” moment, and thats just emotionally draining. My solution to check my own privilege is to step away and play other games for a while. Taking a breather reminds me that none of my identity or self worth is wrapped up in my League rank, **and thats ok** (spoilers, I suck in other games too :P), but those other games remind me that I play to have fun. Than, when I return to League, I have a good comparison point when I start feeling like that :) Side note - its also been really fun to teach a friend who has never played League before the game. It can be a really cool moment to take a step back and see how far I’ve grown as an individual League player. Idk just some musings :)
> [{quoted}](name=Bazerka,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=eFOxYHrH,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-17T00:33:09.772+0000) > > Disclaimer - obviously there are different interpretations of this, and this is a deeply personal response. Thats all :) > > I totally understand what you’re feeling. For me its specifically the added pressure to “perform” in League. The longer I play, the more the “innocence” of my play changes and gets slightly more jaded. It turns from “I’m exploring and having fun” to “I have to be good because -X- streamer or pro player is this good, so obviously I have to do that”. > > Theres a few things to break down here, but at least for me the first thing is that **all** of those thought patterns are rooted in pride. Deep down, I believe I **deserve** to be good at League, and any change meta balance issue, etc that causes me to lose turns from a “that sucks” into a “I’m offended” moment, and thats just emotionally draining. > > My solution to check my own privilege is to step away and play other games for a while. Taking a breather reminds me that none of my identity or self worth is wrapped up in my League rank, **and thats ok** (spoilers, I suck in other games too :P), but those other games remind me that I play to have fun. Than, when I return to League, I have a good comparison point when I start feeling like that :) > > Side note - its also been really fun to teach a friend who has never played League before the game. It can be a really cool moment to take a step back and see how far I’ve grown as an individual League player. > > Idk just some musings :) Can you make any comment on the state of the matchmaker?
: Hey W15P, besides buying or crafting champions, you can use Blue Essence on: * Champion Mastery Levels - https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752824#h1 * Content in Essence Emporium (the last time it was opened was late 2018) - https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/store/sales/preseason-essence-emporium-now-live
Can you make any comment on the state of the matchmaker?
Rioter Comments
: These are not nerfs. They are kit adjustments. You acknowledge that Tahm has a low win/pick rate, but did you ever wonder why it's so low? It's because his W makes him far too powerful in pro play. This particular aspect of his kit needs to be properly adjusted if you ever want him to be a strong pick again in regular play without being overbearing in pro play.
These are nerfs. There isn't power going back in that's comparable in any way. Suck shit riot.
Rioter Comments
: riot doesn't know what they are doing at this point. they just simply don't care. if you aren't labeled riven zed jax lee sin etc expect to be gutted without recompense if you show up too often in pro play.
Agreed. Fucking clueless.
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Mortdog (NA)
: Except there are literally no changes to towers pre 15 minutes. So how is it "nothing like it used to be"?
: that was my first dodge.
10 seems steep for 1 dodge, but you did the right thing.
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Sirhaian (NA)
: VFX Updates for Ashe, Blitzcrank, Caitlyn and Jax, plus an SFX Update for Renekton.
Just wanted to say that a lot has been said about this game over the last year about balance and matchmaking, most of it not positive. You guys doing the visual effects however are doing an amazing job. Thanks for making the game better.
: I spy a bot upvoted thread.
People have been posting about the matchmaking for weeks. Its gone to complete shit. Not surprised at all.
: Who else got the survey?
You realize the opposite of social justice is social injustice, right?
: > [{quoted}](name=Dope Solo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3uGfOaP2,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-13T23:36:18.433+0000) > > Your response is a perfect example of that. your response is an even more perfect example of that. I am telling you what I literally see. You can disagree all you want. It doesn't change the fact that those are the types of threads and comments that happen here. You can try to advocate for all the great things boards do... I just go and watch the boards and see people wanting champions to be gutted, complaining about champions because they lost to them, repeating the same threads over and over, having people use anything a rioter did out of context or just quoting them and making some snarky comment that don't really means anything in the end. That is the majority of threads here. You can disagree all you want, means absolutely nothing when the proof is right there for everyone to see.
Your attitude will just ensure that it doesn't change for the better ever.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dope Solo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3uGfOaP2,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-13T14:02:15.062+0000) > > Disagree. Yes, posts will be repeated over and over until they are adequately addressed. Being able to see the data through the noise is an acquired skill. you can disagree all you want. Doesn't change the fact that is what happens here
: Right now? Buy Executioner's Calling (or Morello if you're AP and rich).
I was thinking more along the lines of macro play.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Dope Solo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3uGfOaP2,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-04-13T00:29:17.514+0000) > > I think most players want the game 'fixed', there will of course be disagreements over what that means. Over the last couple of years, it doesn't seem like Riot is really keeping up with their jobs imo. That includes balance issues as well as board management/engagement. The dev corner posts are nice, but inadequate and usually sidesteps the issues that players are frequently talking about, matchmaking as a recent example, Zed/Yasoo is another. Sometimes players are just uninformed about the game itself, and don't have the context all the aspects of early/mid/late champs, team comps, macro...things that come with more hours in the game but aren't really spelled out anywhere. No, nobody here wants anything fixed. Literally around 90% if posts here are people, ranting because they lost to a champion, taking anything a rioter said out of context, stretching everything a rioter says to apply it to some random arbitrary thing they might have, downvoting everyone who disagrees with them, repeating the exact same posts and threads over and over instead of just voicing their opinion in one of the multitude of threads already made about that topic, thinking that they know everything about balance, refusing to see an opposing viewpoint among many other things. Currently boards is a joke and not a place I would nor anyone should want to come and get any sort of meaningful insight on current issues. Riot already have more than enough other places where they can go and have useful discussions.
Disagree. Yes, posts will be repeated over and over until they are adequately addressed. Being able to see the data through the noise is an acquired skill.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dope Solo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3uGfOaP2,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-04-13T00:09:10.089+0000) > > Low effort among a large playerbase is subjective. I'd like to see frequently cited problems (Matchmaking, Yasuo) addressed in detail by Riot staff, the effort is on you. Ok... so what you are saying is that we should do nothing and delete the boards? You want "detail" on issues go somewhere that actually fosters USEFUL AND MEANINGFUL conversations instead of the "if you don't give us exactly what we want then we don't care what you say" mentality that the majority of board users currently have
I think most players want the game 'fixed', there will of course be disagreements over what that means. Over the last couple of years, it doesn't seem like Riot is really keeping up with their jobs imo. That includes balance issues as well as board management/engagement. The dev corner posts are nice, but inadequate and usually sidesteps the issues that players are frequently talking about, matchmaking as a recent example, Zed/Yasoo is another. Sometimes players are just uninformed about the game itself, and don't have the context all the aspects of early/mid/late champs, team comps, macro...things that come with more hours in the game but aren't really spelled out anywhere.
: Gameplay Board's Rules and Guidelines: What do you want from them?
Low effort among a large playerbase is completely subjective, and arbitrarily, perhaps even capriciously, policed by moderators. I'd like to see frequently cited problems (Matchmaking, Yasuo/Riven/Vayne) addressed in the preferred and expected detail by Riot staff, the effort is really completely on them to teach the language. Saying its a 'regional phenomenon', doesn't really cut the mustard, and frankly is low effort. If our numbers aren't correct, then show us numbers/methodology that is. You reap the playerbase you've sown.
: > [{quoted}](name=Rylalei,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=khrUOBEK,comment-id=001f000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-10T10:24:22.469+0000) > > I don't mind his passive staying on champions, it's annoying but ok-ish. > > But it has to fully go away from creeps. ~20 damage on casters and 30 on melee at level 1 is just too much. that's 2-3 long swords for 1 attack, but when you just last hit when freezing for example, it's basically as having those 3 items for free in your inventory. More or less. I can manage to dodge his crap and should win a trade but he's often even or ahead in CS because of that bullshit passive. I would rather the passive heal him on champion death than give one of the highest burst and best scaling assassins an execute feature on top that also works on minions. This guy just WEQ's through a wave and goes roam past lv6 because he knows that his current turning allows him to just need R and not have his W up to kill most mid laners who try to contest his roam on river. Talon has somewhat strong waveclear and roaming but he clearly pays with significantly less scaling and awful dueling/laning phase, so why does Zed get the perks of roaming while being an amazing laner and even better teamfighter as well? I'm really trying to find what Zed lacks that other assassins bring to a team, but outside Akali no other assassin has as flexible a kit as Zed does, and honestly Akali's early is a lot weaker and her kill potential is strictly tied to her ult whereas Zed scales to not even need an ult to kill with a WEQ electrocute>auto ignite>passive combo.
Rock MD (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Eh2dAuEN,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-04-10T02:01:47.127+0000) > > Oh ppl like to see the most picked midlaner in the game that also ha 53% winrate nerfed > > So dumb amirite it's boards Zed could have a 48% winrate with a 2% winrate and they'd cry he's oppressive.
: LL Stylish said that zed doesn't need nerfs, he is balance.
Looks like he was WRONG.
Rioter Comments
: What I have been told by Zed mains on this board for the month
: That's a fantastic idea. I'll just build {{item:3191}} next time so that {{champion:238}} has to do like one whole extra auto attack to kill me. That will definitely make him useless alright. Thanks for the great advice guys.
Stop allowing riots favorite fakergasm welfare trash in your games. Ban/Dodge, period. Problem solved. I haven't seen Zed since the latest round of buffs. Its not that I ban him for myself, I can play against him mid, I ban him for the rest of the team because the too easy roam has no real counterplay to it.
Keyru (NA)
: It sounds like you had some rough games there. Looking at the match too, you did super well to help carry your team to victory and definitely deserved the win. Many players have already said this in comments but what I do want to mention here is that many players use third-party sites to psych themselves out before a game even begins. Visual rankings are *NOT* 1 to 1 to MMR, which is what matchmaking looks at when creating a team. The system is never actually against you. It works to try to match you with and against players so that you have as close as a 50/50 chance of winning every game, including promos. Looking at the stats for the game (might be a little off since some have played games since then), the match was fair and even on both sides. The system actually matched that game with your team having a higher % to win. I want to share this because matchmaking is always a frequent inquiry we get in support where players feel it is unfair but the system works as it is intended to.
The system works to try to match you with and against players so that you have as close as a 50/50 chance of winning every game, but it isn't doing a very good job.
: And **when** was the last time that Faker played Zed? The last one I remember was a game at the start of S7 on a Bo3 but maybe I'm wrong and he has played him more.
Who cares? I don't have the same fakergasm that riot does.
: Someone saw the C9 - TSM yesterday? Spoiler: on Game 4 C9 Nisqy played as Zed against TSM Bjersen as Zoe. Bjersen bought {{item:3191}} before completing the {{item:3285}} and he made the Zed useless. And yet ppl here will say that Armor is useless right? You guys just dont want to itemizate against Assasins so you blame the game instead of yourselfs for your terrible builds.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dope Solo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xV4mqHEB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-06T17:19:48.048+0000) > > Which one? His passive... ?
There are a lot of extra features that should be changed about Yasuo, recent addition of turret safety for starters, that don't need to be on a single champ. The passive shield is overkill yes, but out of all of his extra features, this doesn't seem as concerning. I'd rather see them increase his cooldowns on Q, so that his manaless perma-push is more fair to lane against, or changing his windwall so that it doesn't block everything in a 360 rotation around it. Removing the double crit from his bloated kit would probably be more effective in balancing him.
Kai Guy (NA)
: @ "Rito Fix Matchmaker" upvote farming trend.
Is this a fanboy apologist thread? Because it looks like an apologist thread.
Soniquar (EUNE)
: ??
Uninstalls. And this is for you: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/intuition
: Jusr play anivia and assasins Suffer
They just nerfed Lissandra because she's too good against assassins.
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: Get rid of Yasuos shield
: ***
This has caused considerable issues in matchmaking.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dope Solo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3EO7T6L7,comment-id=001a,timestamp=2019-03-04T03:59:08.056+0000) > > Buffing Zed is exactly what riot needed to due to turn up the toxicity in league. Look at the comments and responses. These devs have no fucking clue. Just because players cry everytime someone they cant seem to manage to grow a brain to play against gets buffed they cry its not the devs fault its the players.
He's currently S tier in mid with a high pick rate, and top with a lower pick rate, in Plat + global games. His ban rate is now up to 50% up from 37% 3 patches ago. All this because of riots fakergasm and a just released skin.
: Item Shop Cleanup
I see the post buff Zed skin has arrived. Save your money kiddos, he's not getting into any games until he gets nerfed back into a realistic state.
: New ways to earn Prestige Points
It sounds like you're trying to come up with new ways to get players to spend US dollars, but you only balance the game around Asia. I'll be saving my money until you do something about overbuffed champs {{champion:92}} {{champion:238}} and matchmaking. Thanks but no thanks.
: garen and mundo were objectively too weak. they needed buffs. personally, i would have preferred an update on the scale of what they gave urgot and yorick not too long ago, but theyd still have ended up as buffs either way because the champions **are** too weak. vayne, and riven definitely need nerfs. riven probably less than vayne. yasuo is perfectly fine atm. hes got a high play rate around 10% but a 48% win rate. so many people are playing him, but not everyone is doing good with him, which is reasonable.
I really just don't support the continued rotation method of buffing different champions into abusive status. {{champion:238}}
: you know what i love the most about this game?
I enjoy watching people quit for better games, more than I like the game itself right now. Thanks dev team.
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