: > [{quoted}](name=Dope Solo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Pntnb04c,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-12T04:23:07.050+0000) > > Riot no longer cares about the integrity of the game. whatever sells them skins wins
And shoes, and handbags and jackets. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
: Guesses on how long before new champ gets a rework?
Riot no longer cares about the integrity of the game.
: Don't think this game is for players like me anymore
What do you mean? They just released an $1100 pair of branded shoes. Are you saying that isn't you?
LBmyBB (NA)
: Can we please stop creating overloaded champs?
Some troll actually downvoted this in support of more overloaded champions.
: He was fun to play because he was incredibly broken though. He made every top lane a very boring game if one picked Tahm Kench. To be honest I think he should just be reworked, because his current kit is extremely toxic if he's strong.
I would say the TK matchup was much better than picking melee into ranged, and it wasn't difficult for a top laner to at least go even against him.
Rioter Comments
Power Mac (EUW)
: No way to predict people. Even rank can prove to be misleading (sometimes I find Platinums who are just as bad as me, a Bronze). I do agree that the matchmaking system needs some work, but uneven games will always be bound to happen from time to time. What I always suggest here on the boards, though, is that players be judged also on their individual performance. That is, if you got an S or even "just" an A, while your teammates utterly lost, the system should take that into account (it's not the OP's case: he didn't feed, but it's not like he worked miracles). Not every game is carriable, and although rare, such games do happen (not as frequently as people say, of course). Also, if you're expected to carry all your games, then you should be placed a division or two higher: a Platinum player can easily carry a Bronze team, but a Bronze player can't carry a Bronze team, even if has a Silver-like ELO. For me, LoL is a team game. E.g., it wasn't a ranked, but I remember playing against a Kayn who ended up with a single death and something like thirty-four kills. They kept obliterating us, but in the end we won through sheer teamplay and stubbornness (or better, tankiness). You could say, they deserved it? No. The fact is that they constantly ganked, went out of their way to help their teammates (he didn't end up with a monstrous farm) and even managed to push most of our lanes. But their teammates kept dying and doing silly misplays. They didn't even flame, they just said in the end "Feels bad losing with 34 kills". They were right. Now, if it were a promo game, why should the system not acknowledge such a great performance?
Yeah, the idea that a matchmaker can't predict how well a team of individuals will perform in a game is complete and utter Boolsheet nonsense. How do you think sports betting actually works?
: So how do you win these games ? Can someone tell me ?
Guaranteed loss matchmaking. Sorry man. Nothing can be done.
: Season 10 allow players to dodge once with no penalty
Some apologist/low expectations troll will actually down vote this.
5050BS (NA)
: Riot: When are we going to get a Fix for people getting out of Mords Ult?
: So Clash is broken
As if the rest of the game hasn't systematically been falling apart since H8 lol
NY64 (NA)
: Is the new Nimbus Cloak better or worse?
Because making the conditional movement speed tree even more conditional.
vamsam (NA)
: How Do I downvote?
You have to be lvl 30.
NME (NA)
: Ranked HELL
I've gone from Silver 3 to low Silver 2 no fewer than 6-7 times this season. The reason? MATCHMAKING SUCKS.
pwc2016 (NA)
: It Amazes me that Mordekaiser is not getting a change in 9.24
Nazgul10 (EUNE)
: Do yourself a favor, and uninstall this game. Just do it, it's just one button and it can save your mental health. I'm probably going to rant but who cares. League in its current state is the actual worst game I've played in YEARS. I'd unironically enjoy State of Decay 2 over this (if you don't know this game all you have to know is that it's BAD, objectively BAD). I can even argue that this is the worst competitive game available. I can't even imagine how you can balance a game such as League at this point, Riot is consistently trying their best to make us uninstall and they aren't even trying to hide it. What do they think will happen when they release champion kits such as Senna's, Camille's, insert any champion from the last 2-3 years? It's not even about how balanced these kits are anymore, half of them aren't HEALTHY to play against, so why are they being released in the FIRST FUCKING PLACE. Counter picking is like laughing at your opponent while they stand there not being able to play the game. How have we allowed this game to become such a sad pile of shit? I feel terrible every time I press find match, and thankfully I don't press that button too often anymore. I can't legitimately play this game and have fun. It doesn't matter if i go 0/30 or 30/0, it's not fun to play this shit man. It cannot be saved, and Riot realized this so they just milk the game as much as they can before they move on to their new releases.
^ This. Counterpicking is not counterplay, and in current league - really unhealthy. I also feel like this dev team has backed themselves into a corner with a series of poorly-planned and directionless decisions that wont be backtracked on due to nothing more than extreme hubris.
Zullar (NA)
: Apparently Discussing Burst and Mobility Isn't "Gameplay"
Nor the matchmaker. What's left on the approved topics list?
: Also having actual cooldowns?
Also being able to farm up without having to back at all.
: Is it possible to cancel the release of the new champion for now ?
Since when has riot ever backed down from something they didn't get right?
: Or a normal person who doesn't expect a reward for normal behavior, let alone try to get an even bigger reward for doing absolutely nothing. Soon people start expecting rewards for existing.
If they didn't want to reward honor, there wouldn't be an honor orb system at all. The OP isn't even asking for anything specific, just for honor rewards to be a little more _rewarding_. Certainly that's a variable that can be tweaked without much effort, without trolling it as "free stuff".
: Hi Im Ahri.
Korea welfare buffs.
Kai Guy (NA)
: So, you think if you got the same duos in a game in Season 8 it woulda been any better of a match?
Overall, it was better last season. Solos, duos, didn't matter.
xabier (NA)
: hey can you guys make honor orbs better?
Some board apologist/low expectation troll actually downvoted this.
Cõmega (NA)
: Yeah that can be quite frustrating. Have you ever considered the new players need to start off somewhere? How was it like when you were a new player?
When I was a new player, the matchmaker wasn't behaving this way. I was paired with 4 people that had about as much experience on the game as I did. The opposite team was made up the same way. Those games were better, season 9 was garbage. The matchmaker is still garbage and league matches are now lower quality as a result. But thanks rito for the Louis Vuitton collaboration I guess??? That'll be helpful next time I need a handbag???
Kai Guy (NA)
: The player base would have a hissyfit for sweeping Duo changes needed to reduce the negative impact. Need folks to be educated on why its negative for the game and to generate enough pressure to make it worth while for Riot to change it. Its not a Failing system as it does not break the ladder. It just has more low quality games and generates mismatches. Riot's taken the steps for competitive integrity for the higher end of the ladder. This is normal, not at all exclusive to Riot. Plenty of Devs are happy to keep less competitive systems in place for popularity for the "casual" population. Its not just about the highest possible "competitive" experience you can make. 24/7 ques of RNG humans by their very nature are going to be lower quality then a Round Robin Tournament. There are Trade offs that get made out of necessity. Duoing implementation is a really easy target for people who care about higher game quality. That's why I highlight it as an issue all the time.
It was better last season. This is just trash now. No high-minded self important talk about MMR changes the fact that the matchmaking is not as it was last season.
Kai Guy (NA)
: I know I am not your favorite poster but FFS this is why I keep trying to get attention to the issues made by using Ranks for Duo restrictions and Not MMR. The Enemy has 2 sets of duos on it. Look up the Voli and Teemo on the enemy team. My basic assumption is Riot has ranks as a Class interval. If they used the old values from Season 2 (70 points per division) then its a bit more then 1 class interval assuming equivalent point value, arbitrary systems so that's not a guaranteed correct assumption. So we don't know Riots internal Values but if you port this information into Elo's System expectations you see a 200 point or a 280 point Elo gap. Converted into win probability, The skill gap between the Teemo and Volibear Duo is going to be 76%to24% for 1C or 83% to 17% for 280 Elo. Because MM builds teams to try and balance out MMR with who ever is online + some extra points splashed in for premades. That means it eather looks for similarly mismatched Duos, Or it grab's who ever is around and then There's 2 ways to balance this. Use a bunch of folks in-between the two who are closer collectively as a team. Which would result in Leaving the teemo outmatched by everybody and the Volibear above average. Or it can try and find the a similar Gap of players which creates real RNG Lanes biased on matchups with folks getting stomped or stomping if they don't vs their equivalent, plus the weak link is not a duo so there's a synergy loss. Riot knows the middle and lower end of the curve will have quality issues, so they aim for popularity. Look at how they set duoing up. Iron Tier: Can only queue with Iron, Bronze, and Silver Tier players. Bronze Tier: Can only queue with Iron, Bronze and Silver Tier players. Silver Tier: Can only queue with Iron, Bronze, Silver, and Gold Tier players. Gold Tier: Can only queue with Silver, Gold, and Platinum Tier players. Platinum Tier: Can only queue with Gold players, Platinum players, or Diamond players who are at most two tiers above them (so Plat I can queue with Diamond IV and Diamond III, Plat II can queue with Plat I and Diamond IV, but Plat III can only queue up to Plat I). Diamond: Can queue 2 divisions up or down (so Diamond IV can queue with Plat I, II, and Diamond II, III, etc.) Master Tier: Can only queue with Master, Grandmaster, and Diamond I and II Tier players. Grandmaster Tier: Can only queue with Diamond I, Master, Grandmaster, and Challenger players. Challenger Tier: Can only queue with Master, Grandmaster and Challenger Tier players Competitive quality is restricted to smaller ranges only as you go up. Wish folks would take the time to do some basic research on Elo and MMR. Its not that complicated and you can have a better idea of what Riot does or can do by learning the mathematics then randomly guessing from personal experience.
You're not saying anything that everyone doesn't already know. What's not happening here is improvement to the existing failing system.
Cõmega (NA)
: Is that so? What about the match making has got you so livid?
I hate the way teams are set up with 1, maybe 2 carries and 4 teammates that wander around like they've never played the game.
Cõmega (NA)
: Are you ok?
No. This matchmaker is garbage and has been since season 9 started.
: How is the matchmaking system supposed to know how people will perform in their next game?
What good is a matchmaker that doesn't? Sounds like you suffer from typical board apologist/low expectation syndrome.
Rioter Comments
: Aphelios is gonna be broken as shit
To be fair, nothing in this game works particularly well right now.
: Is there anything Riot has done in the past 3 years that was good? Just quit.
I wish someone were keeping a running tab of everything dev c-squad has done in the last 2-3 years that hasn't worked out. Everything from Clash release to that Yasuo rework that never materialized, the Zoe drop...I feel like low expectations and mediocre work have just become the new normal.
: Remember when Trinity Force was _the_ “tons of damage” factor in this game? Nowadays I don’t think Trinity even comes to mind when someone thinks about “tons of damage“, and triforce hasn’t even changed much since then, everything is just so powercrept.
1. If you've ever bought RP, stop giving them money. 2. Try playing a game that cares about its North American audience.
: Are We Really Going To Start Another Season Without Addressing Damage Creep?
: And he likely has more than one account. I'm not asking for proof he has more than one account. I'm asking for proof **that he didn't fucking lie to us about every single fucking thing he said in his post**. 15 losses back to back is ***incredibly*** unlikely. I have full right to ask to see that that actually happened, just like you'd have full right to demand I show proof if I said I saw a Soraka one-shot someone.
Streaks happen. Whether its 5, or 10 or 15 doesn't really matter. There are issues with the matchmaking leading to fewer quality games, that much is clear. I won't go so far to say that it's causing loss streaks of 15, but the matchmaking needs some attention.
: TIL that asking for proof about something that has been lied about *many* times on the Boards is a conspiracy theory.
No. Having 1+ account is the norm.
AndreiS2002 (EUNE)
: I cant play the game literally
I was having a really bad time with in game lag and game alt-tabbing out spontaneously with the new patch. Try uninstalling and reinstalling. That seems to have cleared it up for me.
: And Faker is my alt. Given the sheer number of times people on the boards have blatantly and deliberately lied to stir up shit, and the massive number of times people have missed something obvious (e.g. it wasn't matchmaking, it's the fact that he played like absolute ass), it's a perfectly valid assumption this didn't happen until he proves it did (i.e. Posting from the account that it happened on or linking the match history)
Your conspiracy theory is unlikely and ridiculous. Matchmaking is currently trash. Stomp meta is low quality.
: Are you sure about that? Because op.gg is suggesting you haven't played since 2016.
Do you... think its possible he has more than 1 account? Hmm...think on that for bit.
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Rioter Comments
Mad Hack (NA)
: New patch game is choppy.
Rioter Comments
: Nerf ocean and mountain drakes
Can't we just nerf everything?
: I mean what's busted about it? The enemy in the clip have more gold then you and if they won the buff that's the consequence. New elder is to close insanely long games. In order to get it 1 team has to get 4 dragons and get the dragon soul which gives you a massive advantage. If you arent winning with dragon soul and you lost elder. You should lose the game for sure
"Insanely long games" are already trending closer to 30 mins than can be considered enjoyable good gameplay.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: November 15
: Per your removal message: > This content has been removed as not being appropriate to the Gameplay sub-board. We expect posts here to be relevant to League of Legends and ##be generally constructive in nature. This would include builds, matchups, tactics and the like. ##Posts that are largely complaining should be directed to either RANT or General Discussion. Emphasis added to the relevant parts. While there may have been discussion happening in the comments, the main post itself did not meet those qualifications. You are welcome to either re-post your exact content in **General Discussion**, which does not have those requirements, or you can expand on your original post, and re-post to Gameplay.
You guys are doing way too much. Absolutely disgraceful what you've done to these boards.
: Agreed. He's sleeper Op. While we're at it, let's also remove one of ahri's dashes, or redice the dash range by half and keep 3 dashes. She is way too mobile and has too many escapes.
She's got 4 easy buttons on her kit and that charm did not need any kind of buff.
Tolinar (NA)
: The argument against Omnistone - a pointless rune.
I saw this and thought rito must be out of ideas.
: > [{quoted}](name=NaughtyWord,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ia06LtJZ,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-11-11T16:03:16.544+0000) > > I don't know, I'll probably just end up using Dark Harvest or Electrocute, hail of blades might be interesting with his passive. Ezreal's winrate is already shit, that'll get much worse after Klepto nerf. its not a klepto nerf its a klepto removal, a lot of his base kit has been gutted to unviability due to him scaling with items and being able to sit on tear and farm up an proc klepto with landed skillshots. if i go back to last season pre rework ezreal he could legit 100-0 you faster than anyone at lvl 6 with a doran ring i think syndra is the only champ who had more base lvl 6 burst than old ezreal. Ezreal R nerfs to minions means you cant even save your tower with R or pick up that wave you lost due ot being hard camped an dived like its so freaking dumb. cooldown was also increased by over 50% his Q ratio has had all ratios and base damage hit multiple times and they reduced his E cooldown by 6 seconds at rank 1 like that is massive. they just keep nerfing over and over and he is prob going to kalista lvl win rate soon.
Ezeal is a perfect example of a skillshot based champ that riot's "balance team" has dumpstered anyway.
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