: Fuck my team sometimes
I hate that I have to all the time, but I just mute. The game has become so much better since I started.
: when nobody likes your thread
People are just salty in general
: Tryndamere is Now My Permanent Ban for Life
I have him in my perma ban slot, just because every time I let him into my game he just becomes a massive headache. He will be 0/5/0 at the start, but end game with breaking a side lane tower as 8/5/0 No one knows how to fight him, no one cares to learn how to fight him. So people catch on, and start telling others "Just pick Tryn and afk split push" and it works because no one pays attention to him or wants to fight him. Then it becomes MY job to deal with him, on top of all the other stuff I have to do that my team isn't doing.
: > [{quoted}](name=Trias000,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=aNQ1yhvt,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-15T22:26:20.386+0000) > > Worse thing is the splash arts like Bandit Sivir and Musketeer Twisted Fate. I bought them for RP and then Riot changed them to much worse. Basically I've been scammed. https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/legal/termsofuse#virtual-goods > _**4.3. Do I “own” the Virtual Goods I unlock? (No. What you “unlock” is not the virtual good itself, but rather, a qualified right to access it in the Game.)**_ > You have no ownership or other property interest in any of the Virtual Goods you unlock, regardless of whether you acquired access to those Virtual Goods using Riot Points, Blue Essence or Hextech Crafting. Virtual Goods have no monetary value. You can’t redeem them for cash. You can’t obtain any refunds for purchasing Riot Points or Virtual Goods, except as expressly permitted by us. You can find our current content refund policy here. > **We have the right to delete, alter, move, remove, or transfer any and all Game Content—including Virtual Goods—in whole or in part, at any time and for any reason or no reason, with or without notice to you, and with no liability of any kind to you.** We don’t provide or guarantee, and expressly disclaim, any value, cash or otherwise, attributed to any data residing on servers we operate or control, including any Game Content attributed to your account. The sale or transfer of your right to access certain Virtual Goods, Blue Essence, Riot Points or Hextech Items may only be conducted via services approved of or provided by us, if any.
> [{quoted}](name=Kairoptra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=aNQ1yhvt,comment-id=000100000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-07-16T02:39:31.663+0000) > > https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/legal/termsofuse#virtual-goods Thank you
: Guess I better fucking learn how to play every champion with glacial augment
: > [{quoted}](name=Dr Endeavor,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=aNQ1yhvt,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-07-15T21:05:09.342+0000) > > I dunno, hurts me to look at it. Your response to his opinion is kinda painful too. Yeah, my bad for telling the truth.
> [{quoted}](name=ThatShinyPiplup,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=aNQ1yhvt,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-07-15T21:12:24.952+0000) > > Yeah, my bad for telling the truth. It's not the truth, its just another opinion. Some people don't care and want people to stop talking about it. Other people care, and they want more quality in a game they invest time and money into. If you belong to the group that doesn't care, then you shouldn't harass the people that do. I, personally for what its worth, know that Riot is a business and they will do things to make money.... that's just how it is. I will continue to enjoy the game without spending money on it, but I am not going to complain about how they do things... that can be reserved for the people that dump $500 into this game and are unhappy with their decision.
Juxin (NA)
: If Riot would put forth effort like they do their skins, the game would be a lot healthier to play.
Why put forth any extra effort when they don't have to. Millions of people buying skins, emotes, passes, and little legends regardless of the opinion on the state of the game. As long as people throw money at them, Riot will just carry on assuming the majority of the people are happy with things just the way they are.
: If you don't like it, don't buy it. Guess how much the skins existing hurts you? 0.
> [{quoted}](name=ThatShinyPiplup,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=aNQ1yhvt,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-15T20:39:04.755+0000) > > If you don't like it, don't buy it. Guess how much the skins existing hurts you? 0. I dunno, hurts me to look at it. Your response to his opinion is kinda painful too.
: Completely agree. Duo'd bot with my brother last night - he was Panth ADC, I was Taliyah supp. Our jung got so mad in champ select that they went Lux jung. I went 11/0/11 (we steamrolled them) and got 3x honors, with Lux asking the enemy team to report me for smurfing. A casual glance at my op.gg will show you that I'm the most hardstuck silver on earth. Meta slaves are the worst.
> [{quoted}](name=ApothNinja,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4efNHe8x,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-07-15T20:00:48.214+0000) > > Completely agree. Duo'd bot with my brother last night - he was Panth ADC, I was Taliyah supp. Our jung got so mad in champ select that they went Lux jung. I went 11/0/11 (we steamrolled them) and got 3x honors, with Lux asking the enemy team to report me for smurfing. > > A casual glance at my op.gg will show you that I'm the most hardstuck silver on earth. Meta slaves are the worst. and yet its always YOUR fault when you lose though. All 50 of their deaths can be traced DIRECTLY to the fact you chose off meta. Nothing to do with THEIR gameplay or mechanics. I go 6+ kills and few deaths lately (if any deaths at all). I just stopped killing myself following people who are killing themselves. I at least get to keep the pride of not feeding like a soup kitchen when I lose now, before I would have my deaths thrown at me too even though it was always to help someone else =_=
Yenn (NA)
: It would be great if literally any jungle improvements could be made
I just recently had a game where I was 8-0-3 as the jungler. I tried SO hard to carry it wasn't even funny. The enemy Twitch, who I absolutely s*** on before 15 min with counter ganks and invades, literally just avoided me and ran around murdering my team mates who couldn't be bothered to use their mini map. That Twitch ended the same game with EIGHTEEN kills... 18/3/7.... all three of his deaths were from me. No matter what jungler I play I never feel like I can get enough momentum to offset people that just insist on finding the quickest way to die every time they revive. I dont know if its the jungle camps or what, but I have never felt so helpless as a jungler in all the years I have played as it.
: Speaking as a kindred player myself she actually gets INFINITE jungle stacks. Once she hits 8 mark stacks her marks start appearing on dragon/baron, and she caps out mechanically at 25 stacks, which would take a while to obtain. Sorry, just a little fact.
> [{quoted}](name=DC50Athletics,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=f1AMEmjL,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-07-15T05:12:33.824+0000) > > Speaking as a kindred player myself she actually gets INFINITE jungle stacks. Once she hits 8 mark stacks her marks start appearing on dragon/baron, and she caps out mechanically at 25 stacks, which would take a while to obtain. > > Sorry, just a little fact. Right, but she only gets like 6 from things like gromp and scuttler crab before its only players and epic monsters right? Thats what I was trying to say lol
vyoda (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=flibitydoo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=o3sZFVvI,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-07-14T01:04:24.173+0000) > > At best we can hope they do what dota did to premades and make it so if the premades are acting toxic, that reporting one member of the pre-made counts as a hit against all of them (which vastly discourages premade toxicity against non-group-members). Easy and effective fix. Why hasn’t Rito already tried this?
> [{quoted}](name=vyoda,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=o3sZFVvI,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-07-14T04:41:22.674+0000) > > Easy and effective fix. > > Why hasn’t Rito already tried this? Hahahahahaha forgive me for laughing, you must not be from around here
: It is the same SHIT every single game,
Played Morg Jungle. Went like 2/0/14. We won and I played a large part in it. Post game lobby my team begs the enemy team to report me. The reason diversity is small? “Meta” is everything and until a pro player does it, it troll or trash =_=
coreym11 (NA)
: How do smurfs climb through the ranks?
I’m going through the same ordeals and thoughts right now friend. Currently, I am just focusing on cutting down on my deaths. I figure the first step is to not die so much and give the enemy free gold, especially shut down gold I usually have. I also need to get out of a bad habit of dying because I want to save people making bad decisions. That guy that dies 15 times in a match is going to die 15 times, I finally just told myself I am not adding to the pile anymore. I have gone through so many junglers just trying to find something that works, my only big success being Xin Zhao. Apparently Vi and Jarvan are good too, but I hate diving in now a days... everything kills you in 3 seconds and your team will just literally watch you die 2 cm away. I miss playing Amumu and Nunu, but I just had to rely on my team too much. If you figure something out let me know, I’ll keep you in mind if I figure anything out too lol
Kuponya (NA)
: Under which letter of the alphabet are the champions most cancerous?
Y - {{champion:157}} {{champion:350}} {{champion:83}}{{champion:11}}
: Why does Kindred do so much fucking damage?
I dont know the match you had that caused this post... but the majority of the time you die horrible deaths to Kindred is because you let her stack up. Like Chogath, she gets 6 freebies off jungle camps and then gets one stack for every takedown on a marked champ. If she is shredding your team, its because no one bothered to keep her from getting her stacks.
: you dont trust your teammates in bronze and are in bronze because you dont trust your teammates....
I tried using this, all it says is High Snowballing score 82.2 (47.1 is average) High Power Plays Score 71.2 (41 is average) Apparently I am a "Closer" , I push advantages and end games? Not sure if it tells you other stuff
: >that there are still a lot of people who are willing to take the risk of losing rank just to get a chest by playing sub optimal champions or champions they have never even played before. are you more likely to get chests in ranked or something? if it makes no difference and you still are compared with others it's kinda dumb to first time a champ in ranked for obvious reasons unless you played similar champs a lot or something (this is not the system fault unless it's easier to get chests in ranked but i don't think it's)
> [{quoted}](name=Luther King Jr V,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BQEmuiEO,comment-id=0000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-14T15:22:52.771+0000) > > are you more likely to get chests in ranked or something? if it makes no difference and you still are compared with others it's kinda dumb to first time a champ in ranked for obvious reasons unless you played similar champs a lot or something (this is not the system fault unless it's easier to get chests in ranked but i don't think it's) Thats just it. There isnt any benefit or sneaky hack to it. People just want to play ranked over normals because they want to play games that can get them higher, but they also want chests. So instead of just saying "I should play my best champs and just deal with not getting chests" they say "Hey I can play ranked AND get chests if I just pick champs I dont usually play! My team will carry my dead weight for sure!" Like I said, it isnt that they ar more likely to get chests, and thats what OP is complaining about. It is dumb.
: is ranked queue different than normal queue when you are graded and compared to other players? if yes then maybe i understand where op is coming from, if no then that's a very flawed line of thinking..
> [{quoted}](name=Luther King Jr V,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BQEmuiEO,comment-id=00000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-07-14T15:11:06.758+0000) > > is ranked queue different than normal queue when you are graded and compared to other players? if yes then maybe i understand where op is coming from, if no then that's a very flawed line of thinking.. It's the same grading system to get chests. The difference is when you play ranked there is a much different environment as to how normals usually are. When people queue up for ranked, they "most of the time" queue their champions they play best in order to have the highest chance of winning and getting LP to go up in rank. What OP is saying, is that there are still a lot of people who are willing to take the risk of losing rank just to get a chest by playing sub optimal champions or champions they have never even played before.
: oh i understand point 3 now i forgot about the shared chest premade thing but ranked why would you play ranked with low mastery champs? what's the advantage of doing that (over normals i mean)
> [{quoted}](name=Luther King Jr V,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BQEmuiEO,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-07-14T14:50:32.936+0000) > > oh i understand point 3 now i forgot about the shared chest premade thing > > but ranked why would you play ranked with low mastery champs? what's the advantage of doing that (over normals i mean) People do it as a "2 birds with 1 stone" thing. They dont care of they lose for playing a low mastery champ, as long as they might get an S and a chest.
: mind to explain point 1 and 3
> [{quoted}](name=Luther King Jr V,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BQEmuiEO,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-14T13:55:42.150+0000) > > mind to explain point 1 and 3 Point 1. If you play ranked, but then play champs you have little experience on JUST to get chests, you are putting yourself at a disadvantage just for the "chance" for a chest Point 3. You have way better chances of getting a chest from someone else if you are in a party of 5. Even if you play like crap if someone on your team gets an S and you have no chest on your champ, you get a chest. I think what OP is asking by this is to make it so you can keep getting chest with the same champ til your chest count hits 0.
: I Normally Don't Blame Jungle
You still dont get to blame them for your own performance, your lane is your lane. But I ABSOLUTELY agree with you that not taking advantage of that situation as a jungler is a huge opportunity missed that could have changed the game for your team.
KuroCorbeau (EUNE)
: Dodging is good when...
When your entire team but you has locked in all adc's (this actually happened... Vayne top, Ez mid, Cait adc and ashe supp, I was last pick jungler) I wanted to lock in Twitch jungle for the lulz before I dodged but I dont own him lol
: Extremely Upset
Generally I never feel like my team or my enemies play that well. I’m not amazing, but where I am at you can tell a clear difference in skills levels just by watching while you clear camps as a jungler. Chasing from both teams, horrible cs on both teams, no objective priority on either team... most victories I have are from my map awareness and pushing objectives.... because no one does either. As soon as I get 4ish wins or promos though, shit hits the fan and I just can’t fathom what I have to watch in my games. I can’t even clear a camp after the first buff without 2 lanes dying most of the time. I just don’t understand why there is always such a drastic change in skill level only when I need it to just be normal.
: After someone dodges in champ select.
No one wants to be jungler, I hardly ever have to auto fill. When I do, it’s always ADC.
: I need an option that auto mutes everyone
Practically every other game has a way to completely turn off chat... but not League.
Myrmiron (EUW)
: Because the vast majority of players is about average and everyone starting at Iron also means challenger players stomping their way through all the low divisions ruining dozens of games while with the current system they can already start at top 5%.
> [{quoted}](name=Myrmiron,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iUUvugeE,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-07-12T19:21:47.130+0000) > > Because the vast majority of players is about average and everyone starting at Iron also means challenger players stomping their way through all the low divisions ruining dozens of games while with the current system they can already start at top 5%. yeah but if they have detectors for smurfs now, what makes it any difference? lol
: They do? All accounts start placements in bronze 3, if you are good you finish placements in b1/s4/s3, if you are bad then your in iron
> [{quoted}](name=nLyHorace,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iUUvugeE,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-07-12T18:47:51.091+0000) > > They do? All accounts start placements in bronze 3, if you are good you finish placements in b1/s4/s3, if you are bad then your in iron I mean no placements, you just start iron 4. But we have discussed the issues with this.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dr Endeavor,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=eE83VezZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-12T16:40:51.396+0000) > > Wish my results were the same lol Cho is in a pretty bad spot right now as well :( Do you build him tanky or AP?
> [{quoted}](name=Will of Noxus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=eE83VezZ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-12T16:46:22.204+0000) > > Cho is in a pretty bad spot right now as well :( > > Do you build him tanky or AP? I've had a lot of success with just a lot of HP. I was just pondering about what made Tahm so durable, and more or less he just has such a large HP pool that he cant be bursted (which is an issue with a lot of champs right now). When applied to Chogath in the same manner, he actually does incredibly well.... you just have to be careful with your position since Cho isnt mobile. I dont feel like I am weak at any point of my matches, and I can secure dragon and herald better than any other champ before end game
Rioter Comments
: The results of my soloqueue strategy.
Wish my results were the same lol
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: because accounts start at 1200 elo
> [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iUUvugeE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-12T14:40:56.520+0000) > > because accounts start at 1200 elo I get that, but I was asking why lol
LazyW0lf (NA)
: Starting every account in Silver allows those players who are worse than the average drop into the lower ranks while also giving smurf accounts a relatively quick way out. If every account started in Iron, there would be nowhere for the worse players to go; Iron would be filled with players of wildly different skill levels, completely negating the tier system we have.
> [{quoted}](name=LazyW0lf,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iUUvugeE,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-07-12T15:00:07.942+0000) > > Starting every account in Silver allows those players who are worse than the average drop into the lower ranks while also giving smurf accounts a relatively quick way out. If every account started in Iron, there would be nowhere for the worse players to go; Iron would be filled with players of wildly different skill levels, completely negating the tier system we have. That makes sense, I see people complaining new accounts are always with people trying to get gold and it screws up ranked games. I was thinking if everyone started at 0 and everyone was just forced to climb it might fix something, but I guess not.
Rioter Comments
Moody P (NA)
: You know what they say about assumptions
> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wE2Z2WxY,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-07-12T11:14:45.605+0000) > > You know what they say about assumptions "You what they say about when you assume" :)
: > [{quoted}](name=Dr Endeavor,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=H4E3pA2d,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-07-12T00:53:44.398+0000) > > I have no idea where to put pinks to be honest, I just try to put them in places where it gives good vision but people dont often walk through. I normally get them when I have any available funds and free slots for it. I mostly only get them for myself since most people dont pay attention to the map as much as I do. That's because you're JG, you're supposed to ping it out for them. Ping once on danger/target, and once on the person you're warnings screen (so they know you're talking to them). As I said, they also don't react in time so you gotta ward deeper. Also, I notice you rarely buy pinks. You should be averaging at least 2 a game. Here's a ward map by priority of where you should pink. 2-3 you should green as well if you have a pink out. 2 first 3 second if you have a pink in 1. 2, 3, 5, 6 are not bad green spots. Would avoid pinks in 5-6 if you can help it. https://imgur.com/MKZx3ko The reason for the discrepancy between 1 and 4 is depending on how the enemy moves sometimes 4 can rarely catch people, 1 almost always catches everyone with a few exceptions and not many JGs will look in there. But 1 also will tell your ENTIRE team what side of the map the enemy JG is on (and you should ping it every time) it allows the mid to know which side to play, and top/bot when they can play aggressive, not just when to be safe. Ping it EVERY TIME! Obviously, just flip it for the other side. 2 will turn any winning mid laner into a destruction machine favoring one side of the lane, if you're lucky they'll return the favor on the other side. If you ask they often will as well after seeing you hit the opposite side. Another trick is you can get the pink in one, buy blue trinket, hit number 2 for example, then swap trinket again. Always pink for number 1 spot though as blue doesnt see far enough. If you're already going domination, ghost poro just ups your vision game that much more. If you want to red trinket clear into ganks you can get zombie ward and essentially steal their wards. Honestly, based on your current stats I think getting a strong grasp of this and making it a habit will up you to Silver 1.
> [{quoted}](name=Beerstein,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=H4E3pA2d,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2019-07-12T01:32:38.708+0000) > > That's because you're JG, you're supposed to ping it out for them. Ping once on danger/target, and once on the person you're warnings screen (so they know you're talking to them). As I said, they also don't react in time so you gotta ward deeper. Also, I notice you rarely buy pinks. You should be averaging at least 2 a game. > > Here's a ward map by priority of where you should pink. 2-3 you should green as well if you have a pink out. 2 first 3 second if you have a pink in 1. > > 2, 3, 5, 6 are not bad green spots. Would avoid pinks in 5-6 if you can help it. > > https://imgur.com/MKZx3ko > > The reason for the discrepancy between 1 and 4 is depending on how the enemy moves sometimes 4 can rarely catch people, 1 almost always catches everyone with a few exceptions and not many JGs will look in there. But 1 also will tell your ENTIRE team what side of the map the enemy JG is on (and you should ping it every time) it allows the mid to know which side to play, and top/bot when they can play aggressive, not just when to be safe. Ping it EVERY TIME! > > Obviously, just flip it for the other side. > > 2 will turn any winning mid laner into a destruction machine favoring one side of the lane, if you're lucky they'll return the favor on the other side. If you ask they often will as well after seeing you hit the opposite side. > > Another trick is you can get the pink in one, buy blue trinket, hit number 2 for example, then swap trinket again. Always pink for number 1 spot though as blue doesnt see far enough. > > If you're already going domination, ghost poro just ups your vision game that much more. If you want to red trinket clear into ganks you can get zombie ward and essentially steal their wards. > > Honestly, based on your current stats I think getting a strong grasp of this and making it a habit will up you to Silver 1. I usually pink 2 and 5 interestingly enough, depending on what side I start on. They last forever because no one ever goes into those bushes. Most the games I don’t buy more is usually because my team starts losing map wide pressure and I am afraid of wasting gold on wards that will immediately get broken.
: Absolute best two junglers; {{champion:254}} {{champion:59}} -Tanky -CC -Raw Damage -Can solo objectives easily -Can either split or team fight just as well -Not too mechanically demanding -Mobile -Can build {{item:3078}}
> [{quoted}](name=Mavëríck,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=H4E3pA2d,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-07-11T20:24:09.364+0000) > > Absolute best two junglers; {{champion:254}} {{champion:59}} > > -Tanky > -CC > -Raw Damage > -Can solo objectives easily > -Can either split or team fight just as well > -Not too mechanically demanding > -Mobile > -Can build {{item:3078}} I probably should play Jarvan more for my AD jungler. I generally try to stay clear of all in champs because I get nervous that my team wont follow up quick enough. I'll give him a couple of normal matches and see how it goes! As for Vi we have never been much of a pair lol
: > [{quoted}](name=Dr Endeavor,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=H4E3pA2d,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-07-11T17:32:08.576+0000) > > Hello, this is a little something for people feeling hopeless in the jungle role and what I have more or less learned while playing my games. I am not stating this is the best, or that I am challenger, but being in silver it's difficult to feel like you have control of the game flow. This is what I noticed and what I did: > > 1. When I switched for junglers that _**can**_ gank at level 2 (doesn't mean its their strongest point... just that they have a good level 2), as opposed to level 3 or 6, my team benefited more. Obviously related to pressure, but I also noticed my team responded to me better because I assisted them early rather than them having to suffer til I hit 6. > > 2. Junglers need to be relevant ALL game. If you are only good early, or only good late... you have a period where you are not in control. When you put all your faith on your team, you have to live with it if they don't end up carrying. That doesn't mean its a bad thing to rely on them, but any lead you give to an ally means that the ally now is in charge of carrying. Be the carry yourself, you will thank yourself later. I was really getting into early gankers like Xin Zhao but I noticed the moment mid game came around I either exploded in fights or couldn't find openings to contribute. If my team wasnt carrying themselves with the lead I gave.... then that was game. > > 3. Pick junglers that can do it themselves. As much as you might expect someone to do something when you think its obvious... to some people its not or they just don't want to. This usually leads to unnecessary deaths because you can and they watch you die, or you try and drag and end up giving it up because they want to farm. Pick junglers that when everyone on the map is busy (enemies included) you can just go get the objective on your own. Nothing sucks more than a first spawn fire drake, you win a team fight as Amumu and only the enemy jungler is alive.... and your full hp team walks away from it when you start it. You know you can still solo it but all it takes is Kayn, Zac, or Yi to fly in and you and the drag are lost. > > 4. Pay attention to the map. Seriously, you might actually have THE most time to look at it compared to all other players in lane. It is not your job, but you would be amazed at how many deaths you prevent by pinging or typing where enemies are moving. Even if you dont see them, but you know people have been missing for a bit and your lane is pushed up? Ping! "Hey Ahri is going top". Sometimes they still dont listen, but if you do it enough and they see you are right most of the time they will start listening. > > 5. The enemy jungler IS your laner, even if neither of you are in a lane. Pay attention to where they are going and what they are doing. Habits are how you counter jungle, counter gank, or avoid counter ganks but its amazing how much my enemy jungler never pays attention to what I am doing. Took my blue early? Thats ok, I knew you were and I took yours. Better yet I also know you like to suicide dive, so you will probably greed for my blue a second time and I will be waiting. > > 6. Lastly, and I have said this before in other threads, you cant be everywhere... so someone on your team has to pull weight. Look at CS, look at kills versus deaths, keep in mind snowball and carry potential. It doesn't always happen, but when it does.... cut the dead weight. That 5/0 50 cs lead Tryn will win you the game... not the 10 deaths combined bot lane. They will rage at you, a lot.... but I promise you go to the bot lane to gank you will die and they will either die too or just your corpse burn. Don't do it, stay on the side of the map thats winning and get objectives. If you are lucky and its mid then help them out, and get them to roam with you for 4 man ganks. > > Hope this helps out some, as I read a lot of people really struggle to jungle. This is just my way of maybe keeping other people from having to learn the hard way like I did lol Actually all stuff I learned as well on my climb to gold. #3 disappears the higher you get, by gold it's almost not a problem at all. Here's mine to you since you're so helpful to others. 7. You are the vision. Early-mid game you should have higher vision scores than the Support, they should only pass you a ways into their quest completion. Silver players do NOT know how or where to ward, they often ward places they see warded in high level play without having the reaction time for their wards to matter (like mid laner warding bush next to them). You NEED to buy pinks and you NEED to know to deep ward where others don't. If you're not buying a pink on lvl 1, you should first back, if you don't on first back you 100% NEED to on your second back. As a secondary note, if you don't know if your gank path is warded, go full speed, even if it is it usually wont matter in Silver as long as you don't hesitate. I notice you have no pinks. A single well placed pink early can win the game. I even showed a low silver mid buddy where to ward, hardstuck silver3-4 within a week hardstuck gold 3-4. Also, don't ALWAYS go for the lvl 2 gank, just be able to. Sometimes it's more important to not reveal your location. I say it's a skill worth dying and losing games for, but once you master it, you need to learn to temper it. Some lanes just shouldn't be lvl 2 ganked for various reasons. Also, for most junglers there's a power trade off for doing it that takes time to recover from.
> [{quoted}](name=Beerstein,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=H4E3pA2d,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-07-11T23:19:49.094+0000) > > Actually all stuff I learned as well on my climb to gold. #3 disappears the higher you get, by gold it's almost not a problem at all. > > Here's mine to you since you're so helpful to others. > > 7. You are the vision. Early-mid game you should have higher vision scores than the Support, they should only pass you a ways into their quest completion. Silver players do NOT know how or where to ward, they often ward places they see warded in high level play without having the reaction time for their wards to matter (like mid laner warding bush next to them). You NEED to buy pinks and you NEED to know to deep ward where others don't. If you're not buying a pink on lvl 1, you should first back, if you don't on first back you 100% NEED to on your second back. As a secondary note, if you don't know if your gank path is warded, go full speed, even if it is it usually wont matter in Silver as long as you don't hesitate. > > I notice you have no pinks. A single well placed pink early can win the game. I even showed a low silver mid buddy where to ward, hardstuck silver3-4 within a week hardstuck gold 3-4. > > Also, don't ALWAYS go for the lvl 2 gank, just be able to. Sometimes it's more important to not reveal your location. I say it's a skill worth dying and losing games for, but once you master it, you need to learn to temper it. Some lanes just shouldn't be lvl 2 ganked for various reasons. Also, for most junglers there's a power trade off for doing it that takes time to recover from. I have no idea where to put pinks to be honest, I just try to put them in places where it gives good vision but people dont often walk through. I normally get them when I have any available funds and free slots for it. I mostly only get them for myself since most people dont pay attention to the map as much as I do.
: Orb timer not refreshing until relog
Yeah same here, sometimes it just keeps reseting for me too. I never get the damn orb because it is always at 13 hours.
mack9112 (NA)
: Build around a good team comp be diverse in the roster.
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=H4E3pA2d,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-11T18:29:16.856+0000) > > Build around a good team comp be diverse in the roster. If you are 4th or 5th pick, you have to depend on your team to make a good comp if you are 1st or 2nd pick
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: Can We STOP With the Autofill ?
Communication is important, especially in champ select (but I do agree, people being autofilled into each others roles is just silly).
: ''You have no right to talk because you're Bard top''
It's just the state of the player base. Everyone feels entitled to do whatever they want. Morg jungle has been a thing since Riot gave her a buff that makes her W reset on jungle minions, and I have used her to accomplish great victories. Every so often however, people get all bent out of shape and start doing all sorts of stupid things because "Well I have a Morg jungle, might as well throw the game we are winning!". The best you can do is what other people have said already, steal CS back or ult for payback if that's your thing.... if its normals I would just leave them to die every time rather than purposefully ult them to get them killed.
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iiGazeii (NA)
: Electrocute is great for champions that are looking for an all-in combo to snowball, since it adds a lot of early kill pressure. Dark Harvest doesn't add that early kill pressure. Until you get to 10+ stacks, it's really nothing to write home about. However, Dark Harvest does eventually deal more damage per proc, and it can be proc'd multiple times in teamfights and skirmishes. Take Electrocute when you need to snowball, or Dark Harvest when you need to scale. Most assassins are not looking to scale, they're looking to be as scary as possible levels 3-6, get a bunch of kills, and end the game before it gets to the point where Dark Harvest is relevant. Dark Harvest is really good on champions that want a strong late game and like to teamfight, like some poke and battlemages and a handful of ADCs.
> [{quoted}](name=iiGazeii,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zetQKzMU,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-07-10T18:08:27.308+0000) > > Electrocute is great for champions that are looking for an all-in combo to snowball, since it adds a lot of early kill pressure. Dark Harvest doesn't add that early kill pressure. Until you get to 10+ stacks, it's really nothing to write home about. However, Dark Harvest does eventually deal more damage per proc, and it can be proc'd multiple times in teamfights and skirmishes. > > Take Electrocute when you need to snowball, or Dark Harvest when you need to scale. Most assassins are not looking to scale, they're looking to be as scary as possible levels 3-6, get a bunch of kills, and end the game before it gets to the point where Dark Harvest is relevant. Dark Harvest is really good on champions that want a strong late game and like to teamfight, like some poke and battlemages and a handful of ADCs. Thing is I am torn. I have been messing with Chogath recently and having a lot of success NOT going full tank and resolve runes. Currently I am using electrocute, but part of me feels like dark harvest would be better hence the original question. Thing is I can literally poke or combo, snowball or scale... but I might just stick with electrocute just because right now it works lol.
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: I wouldn't be so sure. There are no "additional details" in the video so the reason could be whatever. Looking at how he got new account in ranked in like a single day, I personally suspect account buying
> [{quoted}](name=Posui Gart,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gR1lpbhe,comment-id=0000000000010001,timestamp=2019-07-10T14:45:53.974+0000) > > I wouldn't be so sure. There are no "additional details" in the video so the reason could be whatever. Looking at how he got new account in ranked in like a single day, I personally suspect account buying I have been watching him for at least 6 months. If he is account buying its to get to level 30 quickly, because this guy does not need any help climbing.
: > [{quoted}](name=Infernape,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gR1lpbhe,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-10T14:06:15.243+0000) > > When it comes to bans for scripting, Riot does review them. Then they are bad at their job, feel free to watch video and judge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ3J-hs4ITk
> [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gR1lpbhe,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-10T14:12:34.842+0000) > > Then they are bad at their job, feel free to watch video and judge. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ3J-hs4ITk Exactly, when I watched one stream and he said he had like 30 accounts banned for scripting even though he has streams proving otherwise I literally lost whatever faith I had left in the system.
: Ok guys. I finish management training in a week and get my own drug store to run.
: Solo or team game? you decide.
I just dodged a ranked game in champ select, because it was a flame war before the game even started. Everyone showed the champs they wanted to play, but then decided we needed more tank and cc while not changing their selections. When I refused and picked early game pressure, all 4 of them proceeded to blast me in chat. I made my choice, because of the way the jungle is right now I hate playing tank junglers. When I play them, I feel completely reliant on my team to do anything.... and 90% of the time I cant rely on them. So instead of dealing with 20--40 min of probably spiteful gameplay, I opted to lose precious LP to avoid dealing with the scenario altogether. Team game? Please spare me the twisted humor.
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