: So I feel dumb asking I'm from Chicago played for 3 years always had 70-75 ping does it really make that big of a difference I've never even noticed spikes
> [{quoted}](name=rockdalian,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3blZiu6x,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-08-25T19:37:05.304+0000) > > So I feel dumb asking I'm from Chicago played for 3 years always had 70-75 ping does it really make that big of a difference I've never even noticed spikes as someone who has always played with 150 ping on the east coast, i could care less about the changes. i never had problems dodging skillshots. i feel like its just a reason for people to bitch for the sake of bitching
: *ignores everything said* Funny how you talk about respect because of the absolute disrespect shown to CLG _when they were receiving their trophy._ You can praise one team without treating the other like shit. Also never mind that I'm a TSM fan because must be CLG salty tears right
> [{quoted}](name=Squishy BunBun,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=hcXKx7Ac,comment-id=0014000100010000,timestamp=2015-08-26T01:16:45.527+0000) > > *ignores everything said* > Funny how you talk about respect because of the absolute disrespect shown to CLG _when they were receiving their trophy._ You can praise one team without treating the other like shit. > Also never mind that I'm a TSM fan because must be CLG salty tears right i just think its stupid what everyone in this thread is bitching about. OH NO! A TEAMS FANS ARE CHEERING FOR THEM EVEN WHEN THEY LOSE! If anything it shows how little of a fanbase CLG has. Sorry that TSM fans love their team lol keep being salty
: Nice :) Congrats however these are new times for Summoners rift. Also what you are doing is as Useless as QQ. Why not go into detail on how to counter each and every champion listed? Right!!! because you most likely dont know how to explain it. "Why would i waste my time Explaining" Because you sure have alot of time to Respond to Board posts :). But hey. you can try and poke holes in my comments but you are only loading my Gun of Come back.
> [{quoted}](name=Caytheles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mxHHteNt,comment-id=0019000000000000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2015-08-25T04:13:27.195+0000) > > Nice :) Congrats however these are new times for Summoners rift. Also what you are doing is as Useless as QQ. Why not go into detail on how to counter each and every champion listed? Right!!! because you most likely dont know how to explain it. "Why would i waste my time Explaining" Because you sure have alot of time to Respond to Board posts :). But hey. you can try and poke holes in my comments but you are only loading my Gun of Come back. less QQ more PEW PEW nooblets
: We may know their ins and outs, however they are still very difficult to Match up against due to their Numbers being quite strong at the moment. Now please make a Valid point will you? All i see is a player who is still fresh to the new MEchanics of league yet try to justify themselves by telling others "Learn how to counter" People know how to counter. but it isnt as easy as most of the people You fight against.
> [{quoted}](name=Caytheles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mxHHteNt,comment-id=00190000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-25T01:57:53.671+0000) > > We may know their ins and outs, however they are still very difficult to Match up against due to their Numbers being quite strong at the moment. Now please make a Valid point will you? All i see is a player who is still fresh to the new MEchanics of league yet try to justify themselves by telling others "Learn how to counter" People know how to counter. but it isnt as easy as most of the people You fight against. lol fresh to the new mechanics. i love how you are basing all this off my profile. ever hear the term "don't read a book by its cover". i've been playing for over 4 years mostly for fun. I play with my friends and dont bother with ranked really because its a shit show of toxic bullshit. we play against golds and plats. So dont go assuming shit. If people spent half the time they spent QQing on forums actually playing and learning how to counter, they would know how to. Instead people like you just bitch and moan instead of learning counterplay. Less QQ more Pew Pew EDIT: When i did play ranked though, i was silver duoing with my gold 2 buddy playing against gold 2s so don't get all high and might with your silver 1 rank
: Except they weren't cheering for their team right after the game, they were chanting TSM when **CLG** was standing on the stage receiving their trophy. Because, you know, they won and all. There's being loyal fans and then there's being assholes who refuse to acknowledge the hard work of the rightful winners because "muh team best." That's not dedication, that's pure disrespect.
> [{quoted}](name=Squishy BunBun,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=hcXKx7Ac,comment-id=00140001,timestamp=2015-08-25T00:54:30.395+0000) > > Except they weren't cheering for their team right after the game, they were chanting TSM when **CLG** was standing on the stage receiving their trophy. Because, you know, they won and all. There's being loyal fans and then there's being assholes who refuse to acknowledge the hard work of the rightful winners because "muh team best." > That's not dedication, that's pure disrespect. man the CLG salt is real. Fans respect their team even after a loss and people just see it as a bad thing. get over it please lol
: Actually, it is quite difficult to counter these champions now. But seenig that you are still in Placements im sure that either 1. No one has played then since they haven't heard of the Reworks, 2. Due to you being in a Strange Elo you have not seen people use these Champions Properly. Please dont come to the Boards to talk poop. because there are people who have Actually used these Champions to their full potential and know their ins and outs
> [{quoted}](name=Caytheles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mxHHteNt,comment-id=001900000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-25T01:27:06.288+0000) > > Actually, it is quite difficult to counter these champions now. > > But seenig that you are still in Placements im sure that either > > 1. No one has played then since they haven't heard of the Reworks, > > 2. Due to you being in a Strange Elo you have not seen people use these Champions Properly. > > Please dont come to the Boards to talk poop. because there are people who have Actually used these Champions to their full potential and know their ins and outs just like people know their ins and outs and know how to play against them. stop the qq and learn to counter
Vekkna (NA)
: That's the entire point. Not sure what you expected from the title.
> [{quoted}](name=Vekkna,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mxHHteNt,comment-id=0019000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-24T21:56:57.290+0000) > > That's the entire point. Not sure what you expected from the title. and like i said, instead of QQing, maybe learn how to counter them. spend half the time learning how to play against them as you do bitching about them and you will learn how to beat them
: Does Trinity Force Synergize well with Riven?
crit, attack speed, mana and AP(obviously) are not that great on her. So zeal and sheen other than the proc are a waste on her. That leaves phage which you are better off building into a black cleaver. overall it's not that great
Vekkna (NA)
: I would be fine with you insulting me if the champs I played were actually capable of this. That's the problem, but it just went right over your head, didn't it?
> [{quoted}](name=Vekkna,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mxHHteNt,comment-id=00190000,timestamp=2015-08-24T20:55:37.484+0000) > > I would be fine with you insulting me if the champs I played were actually capable of this. That's the problem, but it just went right over your head, didn't it? all i see is a ton of QQ.
1Maza (NA)
: To you TSM fans..
so you hate TSM fans because even after a blowout loss, they still believe in their team and will cheer for them no matter what? That's the sign of true fans if i ever saw it. CLG even after winning, don't have nearly as many fans as TSM. If anything, that shows how great the TSM fanbase is more than ever. You and the others here whining about it is just showing how salty you guys are even after a great win. Celebrate the win instead of focusing on how dedicated another fanbase is to their team.
Vekkna (NA)
: 5.16 is a miserable experience
"i can't learn how to counter champions, so i will bitch about them instead" fixed title for you
: Garen: Too weak early, Too strong late and still the same issues as before
uhh thats the opposite problem he had before. Before he was strong early and weak late game. People would just ignore him late game because he did no damage and had no hard CC
: just out of curiosity what would be the point of recruiting specifically a bronze only team?
> [{quoted}](name=Toonspike,realm=NA,application-id=K6EGEal2,discussion-id=ELb5wxqV,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-08-20T05:55:13.924+0000) > > just out of curiosity what would be the point of recruiting specifically a bronze only team? i feel like these teams would never last and just involve a bunch of random people insulting eachother in the end because each of them believe the game should be played a different and more wrong way than the other guys lol
Lugg (NA)
: You will never be relevant in the game if you are being camped. You lose way too much CS to make a difference. So thanks to your crap jungler, it's now basically a 5v4 game and of course your crap jungler will be complaining "Why did you let your lane opponent get so far ahead?".
> [{quoted}](name=Lugg,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Bn8p8E2r,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2015-08-18T03:39:59.569+0000) > > You will never be relevant in the game if you are being camped. You lose way too much CS to make a difference. So thanks to your crap jungler, it's now basically a 5v4 game and of course your crap jungler will be complaining "Why did you let your lane opponent get so far ahead?". meanwhile, when the jungler is camping your lane and if you are playing safe so he cant get any good ganks off, your other 2 lanes and jungler can pretty much do what they want knowing they have zero jungler presence from the enemy jungler so they can be super aggresive. its not all about you. Also factor in if he is camping you and not getting any kills out of it, he is effectively wasting his time and making himself weak so by your logic, its a 4v4. Maybe learn how to play against it instead of whining about it because its easily doable
: {{champion:10}} also a devour user and her ult keeps her safe. {{champion:19}} also a devour user, can heal yi's damage and his ult keeps yi from doing anything for a bit.
> [{quoted}](name=sixdogman,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=1uMEfmAW,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-08-18T03:15:34.808+0000) > > {{champion:10}} also a devour user and her ult keeps her safe. > > {{champion:19}} also a devour user, can heal yi's damage and his ult keeps yi from doing anything for a bit. WW wouldnt be able to. His damage even if he built full damage like Yi, still wouldnt be able to outdamage Yi and def wouldnt be able to outheal him. if he builds tank after devourer, botrk, wouldnt do enough damage and again Yi does so much damage he would shred through him anyway. True damage and attack speed steroid OP
Lugg (NA)
: It's hard to win your lane or go even when the enemy jungler is camping your lane and your jungler doesn't do anything about it.
> [{quoted}](name=Lugg,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Bn8p8E2r,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-08-18T03:18:24.076+0000) > > It's hard to win your lane or go even when the enemy jungler is camping your lane and your jungler doesn't do anything about it. ward. if you get ganked, it's your own fault, not your junglers. You know why pro games dont have many deaths the majority of the time? Because they know how to play careful and where the jungler should be the majority of the time. learn how to do that and you wont die to ganks as often. but blaming your jungler is just stupid
: LF Hot Chicks No Joke... Real Life Gamer Gurls Only PLZ
Wendingo (NA)
: Confirmed project skins for Leona, Lucian, Zed, and Fiora
: Dota 2 got A RETRO mode
Dota 2 has a lot of fun game modes. One you can draft abilities in to pretty much make your own champion. Meanwhile league gets limited time game modes...gg
Ashenvall (EUW)
: Never? Why? Justify this! You are against an ap mid ok, but there are four others player against you (adc, top, jungle support) you don't stay permanently in mid lane ! I don't believe in your dogma or postulate "never both"
> [{quoted}](name=Ashenvall,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=id7KowpO,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2015-08-17T22:13:31.848+0000) > > Never? Why? Justify this! You are against an ap mid ok, but there are four others player against you (adc, top, jungle support) you don't stay permanently in mid lane ! I don't believe in your dogma or postulate "never both" because taking both reduces your damage of course. The main reason people get these is for the Mana regen and the CDR, and in the case of grail, magic resist as well but, not for the damage. If you need both for mana regen, then you need to learn how to conserve your mana better. Go watch any pro player play mid. They will get one or the other but never and i mean absolutely NEVER get both
Ashenvall (EUW)
: Sorcerer ok, void staff ok, liandry or/luden ok, rabadon ok. I take morello + graal So +15 +39% magic pen (4% masteries) +15(if liandry) +40% cdr +200% mana regen (+ graal passive when you kill an ennemy) + merollo passive (always good) + 150-190 damage with luden +20 magic resist ( im not sure) With roa/ rylai an liandry you are tanky but in a long fight => out of mana or spell in cd and you die
> [{quoted}](name=Ashenvall,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=id7KowpO,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-08-17T20:26:40.666+0000) > > Sorcerer ok, void staff ok, liandry or/luden ok, rabadon ok. > I take morello + graal > So +15 +39% magic pen (4% masteries) +15(if liandry) > +40% cdr > +200% mana regen (+ graal passive when you kill an ennemy) > + merollo passive (always good) > + 150-190 damage with luden > +20 magic resist ( im not sure) > With roa/ rylai an liandry you are tanky but in a long fight => out of mana or spell in cd and you die you never take morello AND grail. one or the other. If you are against an AP mid, grail, anything else, morello. never both
: Will he miss the start of the spring split? I don't know when the split starts, but his suspension is until February. The account selling is a much bigger issue than elo boosting indeed.
> [{quoted}](name=TurquoiseYoshi,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=qIqQvdEl,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-13T02:56:47.209+0000) > > Will he miss the start of the spring split? I don't know when the split starts, but his suspension is until February. > > The account selling is a much bigger issue than elo boosting indeed. spring split starts in january i think so he'd miss a few weeks
: The thing is, XWX is not losing all of 7 months worth of time. He's only missing the playoffs, the regional qualifier for Worlds (if applicable), and Worlds. Also, he tried to sell an LCS-unlocked account. What that means is that it has every skin and champion and rune and I think ward skin ever.
> [{quoted}](name=TurquoiseYoshi,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=qIqQvdEl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-08-13T01:06:06.671+0000) > > The thing is, XWX is not losing all of 7 months worth of time. He's only missing the playoffs, the regional qualifier for Worlds (if applicable), and Worlds. Also, he tried to sell an LCS-unlocked account. What that means is that it has every skin and champion and rune and I think ward skin ever. "only missing the playoffs, the regional qualifier for Worlds (if applicable), and Worlds." you make it sound as if they are not a big deal when in reality its the biggest deal for these guys really. He is also going to miss the start of the spring split Overall i think forgiven got lucky on his ban. He has a history of being a dick. 4 games was probably not enough. XWX on the other hand like the guy above me stated, tried to sell an account RIOT gave him FOR FREE that has literally every rune, champion and possibly skins(im not sure if they get the skins or not). That's a huge breach in RIOTs trust. It says he only got 1 month added for doing that but honestly i think that's a bigger deal than the elo boosting.
Stiler (NA)
: Someone explain why Sions ult is stopped by Cassiopeia's ult?
^ has to be a bug. literally nothing is supposed to stop it
: @Riot, Fiora is much better now thank you for the update
listening to their users? If they did that, they wouldnt have changed fiora because the majority know the new one isnt anywhere near as good and we would also have a client by now lol
: Riven nerfs are gonna come soon
she won't get nerfed because she doesnt need it.
: A 40% CDR Riven is the most cancerous thing ever
i would argue that the amount of whiny riven threads is more cancerous then a 40% CDR riven
: Omg I hate people who comment without knowing how the champ works. If you see the ! and place a pink, it doesn't stop you from getting 1 shot. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, the pink ward vision radius is lower than rengars leap range sooo.....
> [{quoted}](name=Bussinessbacca,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1YdY57a0,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2015-08-10T23:29:39.461+0000) > > Omg I hate people who comment without knowing how the champ works. If you see the ! and place a pink, it doesn't stop you from getting 1 shot. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, the pink ward vision radius is lower than rengars leap range sooo..... omg i hate people who make whiny threads about champs that have obvious counters but they are just to noob to figure them out. get good lol. sorry you cant figure it out
: Reminder that rengar can kill people with an UNCOUNTERABLE combo in less than a second
"uncounterable" don't go off by yourself. the second you see the !, drop a pink or use trinket and kill him as a team. If you get 1 shotted because you are by yourself, then you deserve to die EDIT: i'll also add, WARD AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. if you see rengar and he ults all the sudden, run the other way. there are counters.
coIesy (EUW)
: katarina and jax ban worthy ahahahahahahahaha
> [{quoted}](name=colešy,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VBEVLTvh,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-08-09T14:28:20.445+0000) > > katarina and jax ban worthy > > ahahahahahahahaha most of his list lol. Cho, Annie, Fizz, Jax, kat, Naut, Riven, Vayne, Viktor are not even ban worthy
: My Idea: How to Make Riven Healthy
stopped reading after you said you don't play Riven. She is fine. People are bitching about nothing. Learn how to play against her. If people spent half the time actually learning how to play against her as they did bitching about her, things would be fine
Messaiga (NA)
: Shyvana was already one of the best junglers in the game before Sated Devourer was released (she literally ranked #1 on champion.gg). This was a result of her buff in patch 5.11. Sated Devourer just made her absolutely broken, rather than OP.
> [{quoted}](name=Messaiga,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9fzq86rb,comment-id=000200010002,timestamp=2015-08-09T16:45:28.376+0000) > > Shyvana was already one of the best junglers in the game before Sated Devourer was released (she literally ranked #1 on champion.gg). This was a result of her buff in patch 5.11. Sated Devourer just made her absolutely broken, rather than OP. nnot sure what game you were playing but it wasnt league if you think she was the bets jungler before sated came out
MLDzXnRRR (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Dracid,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9fzq86rb,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2015-08-08T18:43:45.160+0000) > > lol they didnt overbuff shyv. when will people stop saying this. Devourer is what made her godlike again. Try trading with her after the recent buffs... she deals too much dmg that can't be countered by getting resistances -she attack you with physical and deals mainly magic dmg. Also look the patch history - buff after buff. And her model looks really bad.
> [{quoted}](name=MLDzXnRRR,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9fzq86rb,comment-id=000200010000,timestamp=2015-08-08T19:23:23.865+0000) > > Try trading with her after the recent buffs... she deals too much dmg that can't be countered by getting resistances -she attack you with physical and deals mainly magic dmg. > Also look the patch history - buff after buff. > And her model looks really bad. she has gotten 1 buff in the last 10 patches and 2 buffs this entire season so far. her last buff was in 5.11. Again, its the devourer that is making her strong
MLDzXnRRR (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Dracid,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9fzq86rb,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2015-08-08T18:43:45.160+0000) > > lol they didnt overbuff shyv. when will people stop saying this. Devourer is what made her godlike again. Try trading with her after the recent buffs... she deals too much dmg that can't be countered by getting resistances -she attack you with physical and deals mainly magic dmg. Also look the patch history - buff after buff. And her model looks really bad.
> [{quoted}](name=MLDzXnRRR,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9fzq86rb,comment-id=000200010000,timestamp=2015-08-08T19:23:23.865+0000) > > Try trading with her after the recent buffs... she deals too much dmg that can't be countered by getting resistances -she attack you with physical and deals mainly magic dmg. > Also look the patch history - buff after buff. > And her model looks really bad. again, the devourer is what makes her so strong. learn how the item works with her please
: Fiora: Ult Change Too Extreme of a Change?
it needed to be changed but the new one really hurts her laning. she's not that great a duelest. It doesn't really add a whole lot of damage. Its pretty much just a heal now which in a 1v1 situation, isnt going to help that often
MLDzXnRRR (EUNE)
: They overbuffed Shyvana... she is only dmg and brings nothing to her team, her ganks are also bad.
> [{quoted}](name=MLDzXnRRR,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9fzq86rb,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-08-08T15:04:24.559+0000) > > They overbuffed Shyvana... she is only dmg and brings nothing to her team, her ganks are also bad. lol they didnt overbuff shyv. when will people stop saying this. Devourer is what made her godlike again.
: So Ahri's sustain is getting nerfed because of QQ?
because Riven doesnt need nerfs. you'd know that if you were not a scrub
: Diana: Sated Devourer > Runeglaive?
With ludens you're getting 40 more AP plus the proc from it's passive. combine that over all your skills and your passive and you're going to be putting out a lot more instant damage then you will with nashors EDIT: Don't forget to you have the runeglaive proc for jungle clearing. just makes nashors not needed
: Would argue that without Nashor's, you're may be crippling your jungle clears. It takes a long time to get the AP components for Luden's, but the AS components for Nashor's are cheap. That's not to say never get Luden's, but not necessarily as a second item.
> [{quoted}](name=Serenity Now,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fXIExGYU,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-08T15:37:36.606+0000) > > Would argue that without Nashor's, you're may be crippling your jungle clears. It takes a long time to get the AP components for Luden's, but the AS components for Nashor's are cheap. her jungle clears are fine without it. Go rangers if you have to. Her Q with her W and passive alone clear insanely fast and with her shield, she won't be taking much damage. Start W - Q - W then max Q and you're golden
: Are you suggesting Luden's over Nashor's ?
> [{quoted}](name=Serenity Now,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fXIExGYU,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2015-08-08T15:16:57.669+0000) > > Are you suggesting Luden's over Nashor's ? 100% ya. Come teamfight time when you're grouping and dropping poke, ludens is way better. {{item:3111}} or {{item:3020}} depending on if they have lots of CC, {{item:3708}} , {{item:3285}} , {{item:3157}} , {{item:3135}} , {{item:3089}} Way better build. Going devourer for the extra passive procs is pointless because your passive will just be doing A LOT less damage compared to a full AP build which makes you tanky at the same time. So instead of bursting a target down in under 2 seconds, you'll take way longer to do the same amount of damage going devourer. Makes zero sense If the team has heavy AP, replace the ludens with {{item:3001}}. Can't take out hourglass because Diana is an all or nothing champ. Once she is in she is in so it helps for waiting for CDs to come back up EDIT: Also know that Dianas passive has a .8 AP scaling. so going devourer with Nashor as your only AP item isn't going to add anywhere near as much damage. you get 60ish damage from nashor then runes and masteries so maybe around 80-90 extra damage. You go full AP with 700+ AP and that passive is hitting for 560+. you'd need to autoattack over 20 times to get the equal amount of damage from her passive with that devourer build. Def not the way to go
: {{champion:131}} : {{item:3111}} {{item:3726}} {{item:3115}} {{item:3102}} {{item:3143}} try it out final item can be {{item:3800}} {{item:3001}} {{item:3068}} {{item:3190}} ...whatever the situation calls for really
> [{quoted}](name=magic pole,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fXIExGYU,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2015-08-08T15:00:01.033+0000) > > {{champion:131}} : {{item:3111}} {{item:3726}} {{item:3115}} {{item:3102}} {{item:3143}} try it out > > final item can be {{item:3800}} {{item:3001}} {{item:3068}} {{item:3190}} ...whatever the situation calls for really goodluck doing any damage at all with that. again Diana is a burst mage. The reason you build full AP is because you do lots of damage while becoming extremely tanky at the same time due to her shield. zero point using that build over a normal AP build on her
: Runeglaive is terrible.
> [{quoted}](name=Prospector Pete,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fXIExGYU,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-08-08T14:12:16.557+0000) > > Runeglaive is terrible. you're not that bright if you think runeglaive is bad at this point. After all the buffs, its a great item. keep up with the changes please
: Thank you. I was asking myself this question. I have play Diana with runeglaive but I want to know what it would be with Devourer. Ok then. Now, I just need to get more IP and try her with Devourer.
> [{quoted}](name=Gwellaouen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fXIExGYU,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-08-08T14:19:10.039+0000) > > Thank you. > > I was asking myself this question. I have play Diana with runeglaive but I want to know what it would be with Devourer. > > Ok then. Now, I just need to get more IP and try her with Devourer. i suggest not listening to them. If you teamfight with devourer, you're just going to get CC and blown up. Dianas purpose is to blow up squishy targets. Runeglaive into other high Ap items is the way to go. not devourer with nashors. its bad compared to runeglaive and ludens for example
: Diana: Sated Devourer > Runeglaive?
runeglaive, she's a burst mage, not sustained damage
Crett (NA)
: Is Katarina getting any consideration?
why? she's easy to play against. her ult is one of the easiest in the game to stop
shalexade (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Dracid,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EdKzUmMi,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-08-08T03:37:22.743+0000) > > probably because people are silly and dont realize you dont play him the exact same way now? shocking i know Of course you don't play him the same way now. They nerfed the duration on his Ult by 50% They increased the arm time on his ult by 50% They removed the vision granted on his ult by 100%. Heck, you now *lose* sight of people that you should have sight on when they step on a shroom (So is that a greater than 100% nerf?) You don't play him the same way- cause he's kinda unplayable these days.
> [{quoted}](name=shalexade,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EdKzUmMi,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-08-08T05:26:11.195+0000) > > Of course you don't play him the same way now. > > They nerfed the duration on his Ult by 50% > They increased the arm time on his ult by 50% > They removed the vision granted on his ult by 100%. Heck, you now *lose* sight of people that you should have sight on when they step on a shroom (So is that a greater than 100% nerf?) > > You don't play him the same way- cause he's kinda unplayable these days. lol he is nowhere near unplayable
shalexade (OCE)
: Teemo "Buffs"
probably because people are silly and dont realize you dont play him the exact same way now? shocking i know
: Wow that win rate though....
not a fan of her ult at all. it barely does any extra damage. its literally just for the heal which doesnt fit with her theme at all and makes it almost useless in lane
NemeBro (NA)
: She literally just came out, lol. Kalista's win rate tanked a couple or so patches ago badly, but once people figured out how to work with the slight changes to her kit, her win rate normalized.
> [{quoted}](name=NemeBro,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UXA2EJNV,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-08-08T00:19:04.909+0000) > > She literally just came out, lol. Kalista's win rate tanked a couple or so patches ago badly, but once people figured out how to work with the slight changes to her kit, her win rate normalized. i dont think it will go up much. overall her rework for laning was a nerf, she has an escape now which is nice but her damage is alot lower with the ult change. she went from being a good duelist to being better in teamfights with her massive heal
: Elise Neurotoxin (Human Q) [Cooldown increased to 6 seconds from 1] Well boys this is from today. Looks like its just intended as a nerf.
> [{quoted}](name=PurpleGhost6,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MZyGcHP7,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2015-08-07T19:49:52.674+0000) > > Elise > Neurotoxin (Human Q) [Cooldown increased to 6 seconds from 1] > > Well boys this is from today. Looks like its just intended as a nerf. ya thats why i said laning. 1 second was obviously a mistake
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