: Riot knows this is a problem yet does nothing about it. Ever ban I've gotten was from a 4 man where one of them was the one flaming me, instigated a response from me, then they all reported me falsely. Ignoring this is more lucrative for riot so good luck ever seeing this get fixed.
> [{quoted}](name=Apricot Jams,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1EzmukWx,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-01-31T22:49:43.885+0000) > > Riot knows this is a problem yet does nothing about it. Ever ban I've gotten was from a 4 man where one of them was the one flaming me, instigated a response from me, then they all reported me falsely. Ignoring this is more lucrative for riot so good luck ever seeing this get fixed. Dude be careful, you're gonna get down vote spammed for arguing against Riot's more vicious fans.
: ppl that say "yikes" oh boy.
> [{quoted}](name=Jennifer420,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1EzmukWx,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-01-31T20:37:18.017+0000) > > ppl that say "yikes" oh boy. What's wrong with saying yikes? They said something offensive so I replied with a "yikes" instead of insulting them back.
: wait every 25 games? that seems like a very small number. while im not counting my games between progress, i know that on a new account i made last season for fun (where i didnt chat ever) i hit lv 24 before i reached honor 2.1 (h2 1. checkpoint) and i dare to say 25 games dont get you to lv 24. thats more like 70
> [{quoted}](name=Jennifer420,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1EzmukWx,comment-id=0005000000000001,timestamp=2019-01-31T20:38:18.391+0000) > > wait every 25 games? that seems like a very small number. while im not counting my games between progress, i know that on a new account i made last season for fun (where i didnt chat ever) i hit lv 24 before i reached honor 2.1 (h2 1. checkpoint) and i dare to say 25 games dont get you to lv 24. thats more like 70 The leveling up for honor takes longer once you've been punished. I started from a locked honor level, so the honor takes longer to procure. It's like gaining someone's trust back, it takes longer if you've lost it.
Kei143 (NA)
: I think you are delusional to think that you aren't oftenly getting validly reported. Yet you won't into support and ask them how oftenly you were reported. You are also in denial because you don't want to listen to anything that people telling you on why you got punished.
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1EzmukWx,comment-id=0005000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-31T15:26:50.696+0000) > > I think you are delusional to think that you aren't oftenly getting validly reported. Yet you won't into support and ask them how oftenly you were reported. > > You are also in denial because you don't want to listen to anything that people telling you on why you got punished. How is it delusional? I don't believe I get reported very often anymore since I've already been suspended and didn't want to get banned. I already submitted a ticket like I said, I'm waiting for the response. I just love how you think you're the paragon of league when you instantly start attacking me even after I said I respect that you think the game should be all positive.
Kei143 (NA)
: If you play 20 games a week, last punishment was 4 months ago, you would have played 320 games so far and would have reach honor4 - check point 1 or somewhere around there. But you are just at 2/3. So something doesn't add up. You really should submit a ticket and ask them how many games were considered in your punishment and stop with your denial and delusions.
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1EzmukWx,comment-id=00050000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-31T05:24:03.923+0000) > > If you play 20 games a week, last punishment was 4 months ago, you would have played 320 games so far and would have reach honor4 - check point 1 or somewhere around there. > > > But you are just at 2/3. So something doesn't add up. > > You really should submit a ticket and ask them how many games were considered in your punishment and stop with your denial and delusions. I said on average and there are times when I took breaks. You shouldn't take things so literally. Also, for someone who is supposed to be positive and comments on every post involving behavior you sure are snobby and full of yourself. "Stop with your denial and delusions." The chat log is right there for all to see. The only one Riot had in my ban, if there were more, they would've put them there.
Kei143 (NA)
: You know that you can still progress in honors while getting validly reported? Although the valid reports do drastically reduce your progress, but if you aren't getting to new honor check points every 25 games or so, chances are you are getting validly reported. I challenge you to write to https://support.riotgames.com and ask them how any games were considered in your punishment. The answer will suprise you. Again, the only context that matters is whether you insulted someone. How they act has nothing to do with your punishment, but how you react does. If you insulted others occasionally, then the system won't punish you as it has some leniency built in, but your consistency insults to others put yourself into punishment again.
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1EzmukWx,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2019-01-31T05:01:01.296+0000) > > You know that you can still progress in honors while getting validly reported? Although the valid reports do drastically reduce your progress, but if you aren't getting to new honor check points every 25 games or so, chances are you are getting validly reported. > > > I challenge you to write to https://support.riotgames.com and ask them how any games were considered in your punishment. The answer will suprise you. > > > Again, the only context that matters is whether you insulted someone. How they act has nothing to do with your punishment, but how you react does. If you insulted others occasionally, then the system won't punish you as it has some leniency built in, but your consistency insults to others put yourself into punishment again. But I have been getting checkpoints every 25-30 games, so that means I'm not getting reported right? And I did email Riot. I get that you're all about being completely positive on league and I respect that. But if you honestly think something as stupid as calling someone a snowflake in a joking way is worthy of a permaban, that's a little ridiculous.
rujitra (NA)
: October is still only about 2-3 months ago. Even if you weren’t repunished, minor toxicity between then and now would’ve prevented you from bringing your account back into good standing. It takes 4-5 months of good, active play to bring an account that has been punished back into good standing.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1EzmukWx,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-01-31T04:24:14.730+0000) > > October is still only about 2-3 months ago. > > Even if you weren’t repunished, minor toxicity between then and now would’ve prevented you from bringing your account back into good standing. It takes 4-5 months of good, active play to bring an account that has been punished back into good standing. It's about four months (Beginning of October, end of January), and as I stated I have been getting the honor checkpoints. Which means I haven't been reported. I'm very active and play a good amount of games and get consistent honors. I don't think one game should decided my account's status especially when I said nothing with the intent of hurting another player (Besides the snowflake thing which is so minor, to be banned for that is ridiculous)
rujitra (NA)
: So here’s the thing - you had a 14 day ban sometime recently - I can’t see exactly when (because your gaps in play sometimes are more than 2 weeks, and I doubt you got banned multiple times within a couple months), but it seems to have been no more than a month or two ago. That ban was your final warning that negativity and harassment will result in further punishment on your account. This entire game had you insulting and harassing your teammates. I get that they may have “started it” but that doesn’t make it okay and it’s not an excuse for you to do the same sort of thing. Toxicity is not okay, no matter who did it first or who was “worse”. If you had a clean account with no prior toxicity, this game likely wouldn’t have even given you a chat restriction (on its own). However, you were warned that you needed to be on your best behavior, and if this is your best, then it’s clear you didn’t change your attitude.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1EzmukWx,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-01-31T03:38:01.409+0000) > > So here’s the thing - you had a 14 day ban sometime recently - I can’t see exactly when (because your gaps in play sometimes are more than 2 weeks, and I doubt you got banned multiple times within a couple months), but it seems to have been no more than a month or two ago. > > That ban was your final warning that negativity and harassment will result in further punishment on your account. This entire game had you insulting and harassing your teammates. I get that they may have “started it” but that doesn’t make it okay and it’s not an excuse for you to do the same sort of thing. Toxicity is not okay, no matter who did it first or who was “worse”. > > If you had a clean account with no prior toxicity, this game likely wouldn’t have even given you a chat restriction (on its own). However, you were warned that you needed to be on your best behavior, and if this is your best, then it’s clear you didn’t change your attitude. It's been much more than a month or two ago. The last time I was suspended was around September, maybe October. If there are huge gaps in my playing, it is most likely because I had mid-terms or exams I needed to study for.
Xidphel (NA)
: They don't show other's logs because you're punished based on YOUR behavior.
> [{quoted}](name=Xidphel,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1EzmukWx,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-01-31T03:48:38.726+0000) > > They don't show other's logs because you're punished based on YOUR behavior. That's not entirely true as when repealing a report/ban, you can state that the chat logs are out of context. You then ask for a second review, usually with a human support member and the suspension is reviewed. If they find that the actual context shows a new light, they will either repeal the ban entirely or lower it to a less severe punishment.
Kei143 (NA)
: Did you know that the system punishes people based on consistency x severity? Did you also know that calling for reports is typically considered as a harassment and can get you punished over many games? Did you also know that there is no need to call for reports, as 1 report does the same thing as 9 reports. All it does is flag the system to check the game for toxicity. The answer the system returns is the same regardless how many reports were recieved in that same game. Finally, did you know the only context that matters is whether you used chat to harass or insult others? Regardless of why you choose to use those words, your intent was to harass others.
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1EzmukWx,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-01-31T03:40:53.470+0000) > > Did you know that the system punishes people based on consistency x severity? > > Did you also know that calling for reports is typically considered as a harassment and can get you punished over many games? > > Did you also know that there is no need to call for reports, as 1 report does the same thing as 9 reports. All it does is flag the system to check the game for toxicity. The answer the system returns is the same regardless how many reports were recieved in that same game. > > Finally, did you know the only context that matters is whether you used chat to harass or insult others? Regardless of why you choose to use those words, your intent was to harass others. I don't get consistently reported as I've been getting checkpoints in my honor. That's kind of the whole point of my opening statement. If i was consistently being reported I wouldn't unlock checkpoints. And with your response, you think calling someone a snowflake after constant harassment is warrant for a perma ban?
rujitra (NA)
: Was it a 4 man premade or not then? If you’re his duo partner, you weren’t in a game with a 4 man premade.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1EzmukWx,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-01-31T03:35:21.720+0000) > > Was it a 4 man premade or not then? If you’re his duo partner, you weren’t in a game with a 4 man premade. It was, it was URF, I was in a duo pre-made. They were a four man.
: Let me rephrase. How long game wise? Do you play daily? Couple times a month? Etc? A punishment tomorrow ir no different from a punishment in 1 month if you don't play.
> [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1EzmukWx,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-01-31T03:27:34.302+0000) > > Let me rephrase. How long game wise? Do you play daily? Couple times a month? Etc? A punishment tomorrow ir no different from a punishment in 1 month if you don't play. I play at least 4-5 games daily, but only if my friends are on. So on average I would say like 20 games a week at minimum.
: I got permad for calling someone a loser. Riot has hit the point where they have decided to take a zero-tolerance policy against anything even remotely negative. The special snow flakes have won LOL its a lost cause.
> [{quoted}](name=Applesaucey,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1EzmukWx,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-31T03:06:44.706+0000) > > I got permad for calling someone a loser. Riot has hit the point where they have decided to take a zero-tolerance policy against anything even remotely negative. The special snow flakes have won LOL its a lost cause. I'm not saying Riot has the worst ban system (I've seen worse in other games), but I do agree Riot has gotten too strict. You can't even banter or joke around without the fear of punishment. Racism should be punished as should saying stuff like KYS, etc. I think they need to rely less on the automated system and more on their human support staff.
: How long ago was your 14 day ban?
> [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1EzmukWx,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-01-31T03:20:26.310+0000) > > How long ago was your 14 day ban? At least 4 or 5 months.
Xidphel (NA)
: >Game 1 Pre-Game DrtyTrouserSnake: wtf DrtyTrouserSnake: you stole my champ DrtyTrouserSnake: i am too DrtyTrouserSnake: i gotta dodge In-Game DrtyTrouserSnake: fishy fishy DrtyTrouserSnake: fishy mcbites mcbites DrtyTrouserSnake: so did you DrtyTrouserSnake: Wahhhh DrtyTrouserSnake: you're bad DrtyTrouserSnake: get over yourself DrtyTrouserSnake: yikes DrtyTrouserSnake: yikes DrtyTrouserSnake: foe what DrtyTrouserSnake: for what DrtyTrouserSnake: you started it DrtyTrouserSnake: snowflake DrtyTrouserSnake: starts it DrtyTrouserSnake: "im reporting you" DrtyTrouserSnake: lmao DrtyTrouserSnake: you are DrtyTrouserSnake: im legit not even saying anything DrtyTrouserSnake: yeah because pyke was whining DrtyTrouserSnake: lol DrtyTrouserSnake: im reporting you for bm DrtyTrouserSnake: you said you're reporting me for masterying DrtyTrouserSnake: exactly DrtyTrouserSnake: you said i suck DrtyTrouserSnake: toxic DrtyTrouserSnake: reported DrtyTrouserSnake: muted DrtyTrouserSnake: r/whoosh DrtyTrouserSnake: why would i insult you DrtyTrouserSnake: its a game DrtyTrouserSnake: okay DrtyTrouserSnake: i guess for not wanting to insult you DrtyTrouserSnake: okay DrtyTrouserSnake: false reports get you banned btw DrtyTrouserSnake: yeah good thing DrtyTrouserSnake: lol DrtyTrouserSnake: please report us pyke DrtyTrouserSnake: repored DrtyTrouserSnake: have ban janna DrtyTrouserSnake: are you being racist to akali because she doesnt speak english? DrtyTrouserSnake: repored DrtyTrouserSnake: Reported DrtyTrouserSnake: how? DrtyTrouserSnake: this isnt minecraft DrtyTrouserSnake: maybe who knows Post-Game DrtyTrouserSnake: ha ha epic DrtyTrouserSnake: thanks DrtyTrouserSnake: why DrtyTrouserSnake: lol There we go. Fixed your logs. Anyways, a 4-man calling you thrash and simply reporting will not get you punished. Your actions will.
> [{quoted}](name=Xidphel,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1EzmukWx,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-31T03:10:08.331+0000) > > Pre-Game > DrtyTrouserSnake: wtf > DrtyTrouserSnake: you stole my champ > DrtyTrouserSnake: i am too > DrtyTrouserSnake: i gotta dodge > In-Game > DrtyTrouserSnake: fishy fishy > DrtyTrouserSnake: fishy mcbites mcbites > DrtyTrouserSnake: so did you > DrtyTrouserSnake: Wahhhh > DrtyTrouserSnake: you're bad > DrtyTrouserSnake: get over yourself > DrtyTrouserSnake: yikes > DrtyTrouserSnake: yikes > DrtyTrouserSnake: foe what > DrtyTrouserSnake: for what > DrtyTrouserSnake: you started it > DrtyTrouserSnake: snowflake > DrtyTrouserSnake: starts it > DrtyTrouserSnake: "im reporting you" > DrtyTrouserSnake: lmao > DrtyTrouserSnake: you are > DrtyTrouserSnake: im legit not even saying anything > DrtyTrouserSnake: yeah because pyke was whining > DrtyTrouserSnake: lol > DrtyTrouserSnake: im reporting you for bm > DrtyTrouserSnake: you said you're reporting me for masterying > DrtyTrouserSnake: exactly > DrtyTrouserSnake: you said i suck > DrtyTrouserSnake: toxic > DrtyTrouserSnake: reported > DrtyTrouserSnake: muted > DrtyTrouserSnake: r/whoosh > DrtyTrouserSnake: why would i insult you > DrtyTrouserSnake: its a game > DrtyTrouserSnake: okay > DrtyTrouserSnake: i guess for not wanting to insult you > DrtyTrouserSnake: okay > DrtyTrouserSnake: false reports get you banned btw > DrtyTrouserSnake: yeah good thing > DrtyTrouserSnake: lol > DrtyTrouserSnake: please report us pyke > DrtyTrouserSnake: repored > DrtyTrouserSnake: have ban janna > DrtyTrouserSnake: are you being racist to akali because she doesnt speak english? > DrtyTrouserSnake: repored > DrtyTrouserSnake: Reported > DrtyTrouserSnake: how? > DrtyTrouserSnake: this isnt minecraft > DrtyTrouserSnake: maybe who knows > Post-Game > DrtyTrouserSnake: ha ha epic > DrtyTrouserSnake: thanks > DrtyTrouserSnake: why > DrtyTrouserSnake: lol > > There we go. Fixed your logs. > > Anyways, a 4-man calling you thrash and simply reporting will not get you punished. Your actions will. Even taking the context out shows that this was an unfair ban, but if you wanna take it out that's fine. And you say that it won't get me punished but it did. I add the context in so it makes sense because for some reason Riot refuses to show other's messages.
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Bazerka (NA)
: Hows everyone's Friday?
New Jojo Op is good, so not too bad.
: Why do you guys keep overloading kits?
In the recent reworks, Riot has overloaded the champs. Akali being a the best example along with Fiora (the huge amount of true damage she is able to deal and the infinite dashes along with a slow). Not much can be done though, it's very hard to balance champs like these especially with so many people using them. The best thing you can do is just ban her (which a lot of people do).
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: In all seriousness fortnite is actually the dumbest thing out there right now
> [{quoted}](name=DeracadaVenom,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=AFVmsPNk,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2018-10-10T16:18:57.293+0000) > > In all seriousness fortnite is actually the dumbest thing out there right now WE LIKE FORTNITE WE LIKE FORTNITE WE LIKE FORTNITE
: > [{quoted}](name=DrtyTrouserSnake,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=AFVmsPNk,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-10-09T17:20:16.512+0000) > > I earned this restriction by arguing but I thought out of context this was pretty funny. Riot didn't like me mentioning the competition's name lol. fun fact: D3 player in NA http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=WELIKEFORTNITE
> [{quoted}](name=lIllI1lIllIII1II,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=AFVmsPNk,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-10-10T13:34:37.099+0000) > > fun fact: > D3 player in NA > http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=WELIKEFORTNITE Absolutely nutty.
Grovero (NA)
: "Only god can judge thots, but it is our job to send them to him"
> [{quoted}](name=Grovero,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=AFVmsPNk,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-10-10T02:45:14.905+0000) > > "Only god can judge thots, but it is our job to send them to him" I'm glad someone saw that.
: > [{quoted}](name=DesiredShaco,realm=EUW,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=AFVmsPNk,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-10-09T21:36:06.498+0000) > > Riot doesn't care about what you said about fortnite. Then why was action taken upon this?
> [{quoted}](name=Summonah12369,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=AFVmsPNk,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2018-10-09T23:34:56.162+0000) > > Then why was action taken upon this? Because I was toxic in Game 1, I just thought it was funny that this was on there.
: Noob toxic people grief their teammates. You were griefing Riot company itself. LOL.
> [{quoted}](name=Velzard of Koz,realm=EUNE,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=AFVmsPNk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-09T18:43:31.911+0000) > > Noob toxic people grief their teammates. > You were griefing Riot company itself. > LOL. You're on to me, I'm an Epic employee trying to steal players.
: "WE LIKE FORTNITE" A statement that would make any mother faint.
> [{quoted}](name=TonyTonyMordecai,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=AFVmsPNk,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-09T20:21:16.937+0000) > > "WE LIKE FORTNITE" > > A statement that would make any mother faint. This made me laugh, now that's an epic Fortnite gamer.
Rioter Comments
: I want GD to meet my new Waifu AYU
Is This a Zombie? is so good. Wish they would make more than 2 seasons.
: > [{quoted}](name=DrtyTrouserSnake,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=W7yhdXpw,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-07-06T23:52:22.966+0000) > > Don't get me wrong, I know he was totally bullshitting us, no way Riot would allow let alone pay someone to be toxic just to bait out other's toxicity. My original point of the post was to get him punished, but as I had to change the name (part of the board rules), I simply just put them in the chat logs and submitted a support ticket. I didn't mean you were gullible, but the person who was reported being gullible. Someone back in 2017 made this eloborate lie/scheme and inducted people into his scheme by saying that he worked for a 3rd party organization that works with riot to ban players by tricking them into saying certain words, and that every 50 people you get a confirmed ban on you would get $X amount for, he would them proceed to invite them to a discord and have the upload a SS of the "the player you report has been punished". Riot didn't pick up on the amount of threads being posted on the boards about this pyramid scheme into 11 months after the first mass incident. This person also Doxxed Riot Tantrum criminal history, place of residences and his cellphone number, which he proceeded to spam on the boards as a meme.
> [{quoted}](name=Hellmaximus1,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=W7yhdXpw,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2018-07-07T02:09:19.278+0000) > > I didn't mean you were gullible, but the person who was reported being gullible. > > Someone back in 2017 made this eloborate lie/scheme and inducted people into his scheme by saying that he worked for a 3rd party organization that works with riot to ban players by tricking them into saying certain words, and that every 50 people you get a confirmed ban on you would get $X amount for, he would them proceed to invite them to a discord and have the upload a SS of the "the player you report has been punished". > > Riot didn't pick up on the amount of threads being posted on the boards about this pyramid scheme into 11 months after the first mass incident. > > This person also Doxxed Riot Tantrum criminal history, place of residences and his cellphone number, which he proceeded to spam on the boards as a meme. Ah, I got you. I never heard about that but it seem pretty shitty lol.
: > [{quoted}](name=DrtyTrouserSnake,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=W7yhdXpw,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-07-06T23:42:53.728+0000) > > You think I could get them punished for this? No idea, honestly. Sorry!
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=W7yhdXpw,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-07-06T23:54:11.318+0000) > > No idea, honestly. Sorry! No problem, I just submitted a ticket so I'm hoping something will come out of it.
: Wow, that's part of cream's pyramid scam scheme, where he would induct players into a pyramid scheme of baiting player into bans. I'm kind of surprised that someone is still gullible enough to be following through with it even after rioters made a statement on the matter.
> [{quoted}](name=Hellmaximus1,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=W7yhdXpw,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-07-06T23:49:22.011+0000) > > Wow, that's part of cream's pyramid scam scheme, where he would induct players into a pyramid scheme of baiting player into bans. > I'm kind of surprised that someone is still gullible enough to be following through with it even after rioters made a statement on the matter. Don't get me wrong, I know he was totally bullshitting us, no way Riot would allow let alone pay someone to be toxic just to bait out other's toxicity. My original point of the post was to get him punished, but as I had to change the name (part of the board rules), I simply just put them in the chat logs and submitted a support ticket.
: Yeah, that's not a thing. We don't have any power to do that even if we wanted to (which we don't). There also aren't Riot moderators in-game, so there aren't any other mods he could be talking about.
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=W7yhdXpw,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-07-06T23:30:27.724+0000) > > Yeah, that's not a thing. > > We don't have any power to do that even if we wanted to (which we don't). There also aren't Riot moderators in-game, so there aren't any other mods he could be talking about. You think I could get them punished for this?
: First of all, you'll want to remove the other player's screenname, as Naming & Shaming is against the [Boards Universal Rules](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/ITFIpNUE). Second, they're lying. No one at Riot, nor any of their volunteer Moderators, would ever pay someone to flamebait people. Just report them post-game if you can but somehow haven't, or file a [Support Ticket](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new), and laugh to yourself knowing all their "payments" from flamebaiting people are going down the drain.
> [{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=W7yhdXpw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-06T23:23:46.048+0000) > > First of all, you'll want to remove the other player's screenname, as Naming & Shaming is against the [Boards Universal Rules](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/ITFIpNUE). > > Second, they're lying. No one at Riot, nor any of their volunteer Moderators, would ever pay someone to flamebait people. Just report them post-game if you can but somehow haven't, or file a [Support Ticket](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new), and laugh to yourself knowing all their "payments" from flamebaiting people are going down the drain. Thank you for telling me, I removed his name from the post, but I'm keeping the chat logs as is. Me and my friend were laughing so hard when they started saying this.
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Aneirin (OCE)
: If they're muted, no-one will see the insults. You can still report them and they'll still get punished. There's literally no downside to not being able to get insulted.
I have to see the insult to report them.
: yep that would be
But according to other people, I should just mute and let them insult and berate my friends and myself.
: Oh, the system and I can tell the difference. But nothing that you were doing was really bantering. You were being inflammatory and insulting. Teasing and joking, while saying "nice flash" when they fail, or "haha try again" are game related banters. There's nothing wrong with that. You, however, you were being personal, you were calling the player a homophobe, ignorant, and childish. Those aren't bantering. That's straight up insulting, toxic, and inflammatory. What you may consider mild is irrelevant in this case. There are no "mild toxicity" or "Extreme toxicity" when it comes to the penalty system. There's just simply Toxic. That's it. As for the Pyke, he's not going to be the topic here. No one cares about what he did or what he said. Because when it comes to your case, this case is about you and you alone. If that Pyke came here with the same topic, blaming it on someone else, we'd say the exact same thing to him as what I am saying to you. Pyke here is irrelevant and not the problem. The problem is how you handled the situation. A penalty is a penalty. We all get the same warnings. No special privileges. If you were suspended for 14 days, heed the warning, next time mute the player. For your next suspension will be the last for your account. If you were permanently suspended... Well.. You're either part of the game or part the problem. Permaban means you were the problem.
It may be, but its all true, he was homophobic, ignorant and childish. I guess the community has become so sensitive that saying things like that is on the same lines as being racist or homophobic. Didn't know it was a crime to call people out on their shit. I probably should've muted him, but that doesn't change the fact that he was extremely offensive. You cannot compare the two issues, I handled it the way anyone who cares should, defending their sexuality and friends.
: what really qualifies homophobia anyways gay and fa g are not imo homophobic words. racism yea i understand that, but unless you are bashing on someone and belittle them by saying like "gays make me sick" yea thats should be ban worthy but just calling someone a fa g eh i dont think thats ban worthy.
He said "Go jerk yourselves off like the %%%gs you are." That's homophobic.
: It is fair. Why? Because you retaliated against toxicity with toxicity. It wasn't just what you said that was against zero-tolerance policy, but your attitude in general. How in anyway in your head did you think flaming back was going to solve anything? Toxic is toxic, regardless of who starts it. All you had to do was mute them.
There is a really fine line between banter/arguing and toxicity. I feel as though what I said was not close to as toxic as what he said. Sure toxicity is toxicity but the same for crimes, there are different levels. There are misdemeanors and felonies, both are bad, but one is more heavily punished. If I had to classify it, his was a felony and mine a misdemeanor not worth of a suspension, but Chat Restriction.
: I reported a duo for some absurd behavior a few days ago, no notification from riot, but neither of them has played a game since..
Hopefully they were punished in some way. I feel as though the system is flawed. I feel that there shouldn't be an automatic system unless reported for Hate Speech or Inting. Riot's system picks out words that fit their criteria for punishment and it can be extremely out of context.
: > [{quoted}](name=DrtyTrouserSnake,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ewlyMQHr,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-06-19T20:26:22.515+0000)My friend also reported him for the same thing, no sign of punishment so far. But you're not wrong, just no sign of the other guy being punished yet. You do not always get informed when a punishment is sent out. It's possible than the other individual either received one or received significant progress towards one, and it's honestly hard to say which it likely is without having seen the chat logs of the other individual.
That's true, I always wondered, why does Riot only include your chat logs, puts things extremely out of context.
: Riots punishment system is broken as f. You don't even have to say anything offensive and you can get banned. Its ridiculous. Riot needs to stop with the immediate bans and punishment over simplifying the punishment system is ruining the game. Cant talk smack anymore, might as well just play the game with everyone muted.
I agree and disagree, sometimes it works, but yeah automatic punishment is overall trash. Especially for such a big company. You get in trouble for stupid things, but when someone says something that is actually messed up (Actual racism or homophobia) they get away with it.
: You flamed back, all of you probably got treated exactly the same, as you deserved. "they started it" does not work in court, or in league.
My friend also reported him for the same thing, no sign of punishment so far. But you're not wrong, just no sign of the other guy being punished yet.
Rioter Comments
Asterfix (NA)
: Why not beach balls for his orbs?
I feel like the seaweed is much better, beach balls aren't as creative.
Rioter Comments
Aimléss (NA)
: Riot: Pushes crit ADC's back to 30-35 minutes, but does everything to make games end before 25...
Riot has a real problem in the balancing department. When they update items, they never find a good middle, they either ruin or overpower the item and who can use them. Taking away Giant Slayer to make way for the new Infinity Edge True Damage was not a good idea. I personally would love to have Giant Slayer back because I don't build IE on every ADC I play and not having that health damage (unless I have bork) is basically asking for tank meta. Just a thought though.
Chermorg (NA)
: If you'd read the comments and the chat logs, they were not punished for cussing. Their attitude was that of an ass the entire game, they repeatedly flamed teammates, and they gave up and continually tried to pressure their team to give up in chat. I strongly suspect this is the case for your friends as well - they refuse to admit they were toxic in game, and as such they try to claim it was "for nothing" when they're really just leaving out 99% of the information.
I was in those games, they were not toxic besides for the "Shut the fuck up." I don't know if it was a rare case of IFS scanning, I know Riot can't go through every game personally, but their system is definitely flawed. I know this is off topic, but I heard last season, honor was sped up and it was still a ridiculously tedious climb. I barely reached level 3 and I was constantly receiving honors.
Chermorg (NA)
: I think there was definitely changes needed to ADC itemization - it was very **very** boring and the same thing every single game and virtually the same between champions even. I think you're looking at this from a view of trying to find any way to say that they've changed, but they've made changes like crit since before Tencent owned them. Large changes, that many players don't understand, but have reasoning and actually end up making the game more fun in the long run.
You're probably right, I haven't been playing close to as long as you, I'm just going off my own personal experience. Even if you don't agree with me on the Tencent part, you really can't argue that the current balance team is doing their job very well. They have implemented many ridiculous changes, and player outcry supports that. I think Riot really needs to rethink who is leading the Balance team.
Chermorg (NA)
: I would love for you to link me to someone punished **only** for cursing, but no bad behavior. The IFS does not "scan for keywords" - it doesn't care if you fucking curse so long as you aren't doing so while violating the rules. Swears are not prohibited at *all*.
I don't know how reliable this is, but this guy supposedly got restricted for cussing and nothing else. I have also had people I know be restricted for telling people to "Shut the fuck up" and nothing more. [Chat Restricted for Cursing](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/8c1877/chat_restricted_after_one_game_i_only_used_2_or_3/)
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