Lapis (OCE)
: Bop and Block nerfs, this is how you get AFK Yuumis
They need to delete Yummi or nerf her into the fucking ground. The champ literally kills the idea of League and laning. I don't care if she "is fun" to play she is so fucking annoying to play against. Seriously WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU IDIOTS OVER AT DUMBASS GAMES BUFF EVERY ASPECT OF A FUCKING CHAMP 1 DAY AFTER SHE OUT? She was literally fucking fine how she was upon release. NOw she beyond broken as fuck. And like this post said the dumbest part about her is her being attached to an ally. If you want this cancerous abomination to exist you should be forcing her off of champs more not onto them more. Seriously your champ design team needs to be fired. Never make another champ again if this is the direction you going.
: I love League's champions, but hate the current gameplay
{{champion:113}} so fun though. Can't read past rest of your post when seeing this because of how many other champs are way less fun than her
: Have I left games out of frustration before? Sure. Should I? Probably not. Am I proud of myself like you are for doing it? Nope.
> [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BgucT2JG,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-07-08T13:27:02.887+0000) > > Have I left games out of frustration before? Sure. Should I? Probably not. Am I proud of myself like you are for doing it? Nope. Hey more wise advice from Gatekeeper! We are all so lucky here on the boards!
: > I wish there was better feedback from the system as to how you are doing. I mean obviously if you never type and just play and get honors you have a good understanding, but for us players in the middle of not being extremely toxic but also not a saint it can be hard to know how close you are to being punished. Define "better feedback". Because, from what it looks like you're talking about here, you're wanting to know either how close you are to de-escalating punishment tiers, or how frequently reports made against you are valid. If it's the former, then that's really just a no-go; Riot's not going to give players indicators like that, because then people are just going to game it and try to moderate their toxicity so that they're still breaking the rules, but never actually putting their account at risk. If it's the latter, I can see _some_ reason for that to happen, but it's not a concept that can be applied in the general scope. You'd have to get specific with it, detailing how such clarity and feedback would be given, as well as making sure that such information can't be gamed and doesn't cause undue stress - I.E, a "warning system" would likely result in players mistakenly believing that they're being punished when they aren't. As an aside, I hate seeing following basic behavioral guidelines compared to sainthood. Surely to god, it shouldn't be _that_ difficult to follow the golden rule - "If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all"? Maybe, just maybe, things would be a lot easier if you stopped making the bare minimum behavioral expectation seem like an unreachable goal. > It's the drop in honor in this (in my opinion) terrible honor system that is basically a death sentence. We are talking literally hundreds upon hundreds of games to rank back up from even honor 1 to 2. You don't just regain someone's trust overnight if you prove to be untrustworthy. Honor progression in general is supposed to be a nearly year-long affair, it only makes sense that you have to spend more time if you prove to be dishonorable. And, like GatekeeperTDS said, it's a punishment. It's supposed to hurt, elsewise, it wouldn't communicate that you shouldn't be doing what got you punished in the first place. > Problem was I was not ready for the climb of honor in this impossible honor system. I really would like to talk about how punishing this system really is but that's not what this post is about. No reason that you _can't_ talk about the Honor System, considering that your opinions of said system seem to be part and parcel with the main discussion point of the post. > It's about having at least some indication from Riot of us being reported a lot. Like seriously, before the introduction of this terrible honor system a chat restriction was your indication of a warning. It was basically "yo you need to chill out or you might get banned in the near future". But now its still a punishment but you still get dealt a death blow of dropping honor. Literally 2 freaken levels... for a chat restrict. That's like I said months upon months of games. Literally next level insane punishment. The Honor drop from a Chat Restriction (assuming it's the first punishment) is down to Honor Level 1; it doesn't matter what Honor Level you're at, it will drop you to Honor Level 1 on the first offense, then Honor Level 0 (Dishonorable) on the second anon. That said, the first Chat Restriction still functions perfectly well as a warning. It places you just within reach of being Honorable (Honor Level 2) again so that you know "hey, you can lose out on a lot of shit if you break the rules", while still giving you room to earn back the base-level stuff (Clash Eligibility, End-of-Season Reward Eligibility, etc.) And if you think that's insane, then it should give you ample reason to follow the rules you agreed to. Riot doesn't ask much, just don't be toxic or spread excessive negativity. Don't insult or flame others, don't intentionally feed or troll, etc. > All I ask is if you going to punish people so hard for chat (even though there is /muteall and just mute in general..........) **_The existence of the mute feature does not exempt you from the rules you agreed to._ It is _your_ responsibility to maintain your agreement, not other people's responsibility to guard against it when you decide to break it.** > ...that you give us a warning or something. Like "you have been reported xx percent more than the average person for flame, continuation of this will result in punishment". There is merit to this idea, but it would have to be handled carefully. As I mentioned before, if the warning isn't presented properly, people could assume that they've been punished, and frankly, I imagine it'd get ignored if it just popped up like the usual Honor message of "You've been Honored x amount of times by non-premades, here's a Key Fragment!".
> [{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=oFye96Eg,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-07-08T17:54:09.429+0000) > > Define "better feedback". Because, from what it looks like you're talking about here, you're wanting to know either how close you are to de-escalating punishment tiers, or how frequently reports made against you are valid. > > If it's the former, then that's really just a no-go; Riot's not going to give players indicators like that, because then people are just going to game it and try to moderate their toxicity so that they're still breaking the rules, but never actually putting their account at risk. > > If it's the latter, I can see _some_ reason for that to happen, but it's not a concept that can be applied in the general scope. You'd have to get specific with it, detailing how such clarity and feedback would be given, as well as making sure that such information can't be gamed and doesn't cause undue stress - I.E, a "warning system" would likely result in players mistakenly believing that they're being punished when they aren't. > This all makes sense. > You don't just regain someone's trust overnight if you prove to be untrustworthy. Honor progression in general is supposed to be a nearly year-long affair, it only makes sense that you have to spend more time if you prove to be dishonorable. > That is the insane part about it. Do you really not grasp how dumb what you just said is? A year to try to gain honor yet it can be a few games to lose it all. On top of that HONOR ALMOST FULLY RESETS AT THE START OF A SEASON. How dumb is that? Like lmfao. Don't remember season start date but you could literally be honor 5 Jan say 19th and then Jan 20th your honor 2 LMFAO. Literally you did nothing except Rito's dumb system of having honor season based for some dumb reason. > And, like GatekeeperTDS said, it's a punishment. It's supposed to hurt, elsewise, it wouldn't communicate that you shouldn't be doing what got you punished in the first place. > It's not really a punishment when its like beyond cruel. I legit feel bad for people who get punished in this system. Pre new honor system changes I would have cheered for anyone being punished because it made sense. But now punishment so sever over even the simplest of things I actually feel bad for people who gets punished because the punishment doesn't actually fit the crime. > The Honor drop from a Chat Restriction (assuming it's the first punishment) is down to Honor Level 1; it doesn't matter what Honor Level you're at, it will drop you to Honor Level 1 on the first offense, then Honor Level 0 (Dishonorable) on the second anon. > And that doesnt seem insane to you? That's even worse than I realized wow.... so the system is even worse than I originally expected good to know. > That said, the first Chat Restriction still functions perfectly well as a warning. It places you just within reach of being Honorable (Honor Level 2) again so that you know "hey, you can lose out on a lot of shit if you break the rules", while still giving you room to earn back the base-level stuff (Clash Eligibility, End-of-Season Reward Eligibility, etc.) > It's not a warning..... it's literally a death sentence to your season and your account. Well... depending on the time of year but its basically saying you can never even type in game again because even if you don't flame but you do bad your team can still report you and if you type the auto system can still flag it. It's been proven before. So you can't type, you can't actually bank on getting honor because being a good person and teammates doesn't actually guarantee you anything other than not being reported. So your now punishment could be anywhere from what? 100? 200? to 500 games? Maybe more? But yea.... great warning system Riot has you are right..... lol > And if you think that's insane, then it should give you ample reason to follow the rules you agreed to. Riot doesn't ask much, just don't be toxic or spread excessive negativity. Don't insult or flame others, don't intentionally feed or troll, etc. > Its not insane to follow rules it's insane to pretend like this honor system makes sense and the punishments fit the crime. Intent feeding and trolling are way more game effecting than chat btw. You can't mute intent feeders, hackers, trolls, but you can mute "flammers". You can't mute boosters or any of that other game ruining shit, but people can mute someone "flaming" them. Yet the only people are almost ever punished from this system are people chatting. It's so backwards. > There is merit to this idea, but it would have to be handled carefully. As I mentioned before, if the warning isn't presented properly, people could assume that they've been punished, and frankly, I imagine it'd get ignored if it just popped up like the usual Honor message of "You've been Honored x amount of times by non-premades, here's a Key Fragment!". So this is why this honor system is trash and why there shouldn't be a punishment system based around it until the honor system is fixed. 1. Honor should not reset at the start of a season. If you honor 5 or w/e you want max honor to be you should stay honor 5 unless you become dishonorable. 2. Having a limit of honoring 1 person when there are 4 other team members is flawed. 3. Honorable opponent should be an option like it used to be. Right now a lot of the time the person who gets the honor is someone who carries a game. But that doesn't = honorable behavior. Sometimes you have 4 members on a team who are all honorable, but you are forced to pick between 1, makes no sense. Even if you are the most honorable player in the history of this game it doesn't mean you will actually ever receive an honor or as much honor as you should. People honoring each other is too subjective and insanely punishing to players who actually need honors to rank up. The system is too limiting on receiving honor and therefore drastically effects player to player what each honor level means as number of games. 1 player could have to play a significant number more games to reach the same honor as someone else even if they both the same level of honorable when you look at the rules. You can't have a system punish players so painfully when the system the punishment is based on is so flawed. Fix the honor system, then the punishment system will be justified, but until then it's just a very cruel punishing system that makes no sense.
: > You sound like a very boring person. Someone who pretends to have their life together when in reality you don't really have a clue. Maybe your young, maybe naive, or just ignorant. There are a lot of people like you on the internet. And although we are going to pretend like you are some white knight saint, we both know that is not true. Why in the living fuck are you taking a whole paragraph to insult me personally? You don't know me, I don't know you, except for the fact that you came here about a punishment that you deserved, and a good amount of your text is not accepting blame for what happened. Remember - you came to the boards, the boards didn't come to you. If your desire to insult people here is any indicator of your in-game behavior, you have not reformed one bit. You don't need to reply to me again.
So... like I originally said nothing new to really add. Just "don't ever do something wrong and just accept whatever the man tells you even if the punishment doesn't match the crime and changes without your consent at any time". Yea very logically response thank you.
rujitra (NA)
: The issue is that when you give players warnings and feedback, it enables them to avoid punishment and game the system. You should be on your best behavior all the time, not just when you're close to a punishment.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=oFye96Eg,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-07-08T17:31:12.725+0000) > > The issue is that when you give players warnings and feedback, it enables them to avoid punishment and game the system. > > You should be on your best behavior all the time, not just when you're close to a punishment. Good point. Then I wish they would just change their honor system. The pressure of trying to receive honor when you can only honor 1 person is honestly insanely overbearing.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dukues,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=oFye96Eg,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-07-08T17:20:02.904+0000) > Its not like you drop honor check points or something lol. You could literally be honor 4 or 5 and then BAM! dropping multiple levels even over a first offense. That's what I'm saying; you shouldn't care about dropping to level 1 or something because honor is worthless if keys are sufficient
> [{quoted}](name=R107 Games,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=oFye96Eg,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-07-08T17:30:58.434+0000) > > That's what I'm saying; you shouldn't care about dropping to level 1 or something because honor is worthless if keys are sufficient Eh, ranked rewards and if Riot ever fixes clash you need to be at least honor 2. Plus keys... but honestly fuck keys.
: i would be happy with this, i just got a 2 week ban (maybe a bit to much, but for sure a milder ban is deserved) completly out of the blue. if they indeed gave a warning like u are close to getting banned/punished, i would for sure have calmed myself down more. It also sucks cuz now i cant play for the arcade pass because it came completly unexpected. With this system i doubt i'll ever buy passes again, cuz league is just to damn frustrating.
> [{quoted}](name=monopolyzuigt,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=oFye96Eg,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-08T17:11:05.995+0000) > > i would be happy with this, i just got a 2 week ban (maybe a bit to much, but for sure a milder ban is deserved) completly out of the blue. if they indeed gave a warning like u are close to getting banned/punished, i would for sure have calmed myself down more. It also sucks cuz now i cant play for the arcade pass because it came completly unexpected. With this system i doubt i'll ever buy passes again, cuz league is just to damn frustrating. Pretty much this. Plus like.... good luck trying to get ranked rewards or play clash (god forbid they ever get it working though lmfao lul billion dollar comp can't make anything work right lul).
: Perhaps a system that notifies you every time you're validly reported? But fuck honor man, you should not let that system control you. It's worthless if you have a lot of keys lol
> [{quoted}](name=R107 Games,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=oFye96Eg,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-08T17:07:40.482+0000) > > Perhaps a system that notifies you every time you're validly reported? > > But fuck honor man, you should not let that system control you. It's worthless if you have a lot of keys lol That would be too much I think but if you were getting a lot of reports I think it would be good to just get a pop up warning. What you do from there is up to you but at least you have some idea. Its not like you drop honor check points or something lol. You could literally be honor 4 or 5 and then BAM! dropping multiple levels even over a first offense.
Rioter Comments
: What changes would you want to see in Twisted Treeline?
Similar to others but this is my wishes. 1. More bans, 2 per person. 2. Remove Support items. 3. Turret plates on first turrets. 4. An additional jungle camp so there 4 camps per side instead of 3. 5. Make the map a little bigger. This would help to add another jungle camp plus take more time to jump from lane to lane. Not like a huge map size difference but some to make constant ganking and misplaying more punishable. 6. I like the idea of increasing Vile's strength every time she? killed. Also I like the idea of adding grevious wounds to her attack
Dokkaebi (EUNE)
: Throwback to Rito refusing ranked ARAM because of the RNG factor
Ranked ARAM would need at the very least be actually random and unlock all champs for players, otherwise ARAM accounts would ruin it. I personally think ranked ARAM is a beyond dumb idea. At the end of the day the super random aspects of it would really kill all of the fun....but dumb people who think ARAM shows some skill keep bringing it up. TFT is an entirely different game, and it actually does take skill. Especially if they fix the items RNG by at the very least giving players the same number of items. Literally during PBE a bunch of the top players (mmr wise) were either like ex pro league players or pros at similar styles of games. But yea..... little o Timmy going to beat them because "omg RNG". lol. God you kids annoy me. I hardly play ARAM only like 600 games over however many years.... and I still kill it most of my games where our comp doesn't get completely fucked by an enemy comp (which is random). The only time I ever think "o wow that person kinda good" is when they are legit like.... around close to diamond in solo/duo. Literally look at a players actual rank and that's basically what they would be in ARAM. It's super simple. 3v3 has ranked yes the player base is small but it is a completely different game. ARAM is just 5v5 team fights with a shit ton of rng on champs. I can routinely beat solo/duo plat+ or mid diamond players in 3s as a shitty gold player especially when I play with friends since I am used to it and they are not. ARAM takes literally so little skill it's amazing people think it does. I see people who play 5k games of it and they still generally trash as fuck lol and even if they not they only as good as they would be in ranked 5v5. Unless all they do is ARAM but I can guarantee they not as good as they think they are.
: People demonize Lyte but honestly, at least he tried to deal with toxicity in this community
It's not even that bad wtf is wrong with you kids? O that's right you must be kids. Toxicity in this game has gone down A LOT. Only toxic shit that actually remains is afkers, intent feeders, boosters, hackers. That shit needs to still be punished hard. But any other toxicity when it comes to chat is way down and honestly if people are too dumb to hit mute if they being bothered then that's on them being morons rather than the other person. Its like plain as day. Sorry so much of this community is low iq to know how to /muteall or tab click mute the person who bothering you. But sadly Riot can't give you brains so you just going to have to suck it up buttercup. I know I am being a dick but its honest... I have played since season 1 and almost never see much flame anymore and when I do I just mute the person if I am actually upset and then it's gone. Its so freaken easy I am sick of people pretending it's more of a problem than it is (at least toxic chat).
: > [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mGENPbgO,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-30T02:09:30.007+0000) > Everyone is responsible for their own behavior. Just like parents or friends play a big part in educating a kid, many of them get influenced by streamers regarding in game behavior. Maybe not grown ups but definitely kids or teenagers. If you think this doesn't exist you are most definitely wrong.
> [{quoted}](name=Winter Soraka,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mGENPbgO,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-30T02:13:48.800+0000) > > Just like parents or friends play a big part in educating a kid, many of them get influenced by streamers regarding in game behavior. Maybe not grown ups but definitely kids or teenagers. If you think this doesn't exist you are most definitely wrong. Your so wrong it's amazing. Have you never done a competitive thing in your life? People shit talk... that's literally life when it comes to competitive anything. Dude I have played games since being a kid..... league since season 1.... and can tell you everyone I knew as a teen or now an adult has talked shit especially in League....and this is before streamers. lmfao like.... I get it.... kids will follow some streamers actions they idolize. But you are pretending like streamers have been around forever when its fairly new to gaming.... yet gamiing has always been toxic and most likely always will be. So having htis post basically blamming then streaming community for toxicity when its such a minor part of the problem really makes me mad (and I don't even care about streamers). Its like all those stupid parents who blammed school shootings and just terrible acts of violence like that on video games.
: Streamers are a big reason of why community is toxic
lmao if you think people are toxic in this game because of known toxic streamer.... or just streamers in general then I have land on pluto to sell you. I am not saying streamers haven't impacted a single person....... but the number of people who watch these streams compared to play the game is insanely low...... also not every single person who watches a stream is going to become toxic, just the minority. This game is a competitive game that feels every season worse to lose in you are stuck beign forced every year to work more & more with your noob ass teammates. Of course people are going to be toxic..... Plus... the game has been toxic since season 1.... even more so back then lmfao. The fact this post has upvotes is extremely alarming and shows both yours & these boards ignorance.
: TFT is mistake
Unpopular opinion: URF is TRASH! Plus literally 5v5 summoners rift is fucking URF now wtf you noobs talking about....... Ults up every 30 seconds.... hardly any cooldowns by 15-20 mins. Grow up
: Enemy has 2 T2 champs and 2 completed items, i have a tear from the carousel.
As someone who has consistently been top score for most of the game in my games only to hold on and win a few.... I can say beginning means jack shit if you know wtf your doing. It's almost better to be lower to get better items from carousel honestly. These boards sound like a bunch of salty kids who didn't even watch like one game of it on PBE or read about it or anything, jumped into 1 game, got fucked because they rolling for a champ that "looks cool" instead of what they get and then get wrecked by someone who has played before (and is also probably very new and just plyaed like 2 more games or something). lol.
: The mode is fun, it takes no skill and is as random as rolling dice at the moment but if they normalize items then it will be 10/10 imo.
> [{quoted}](name=USbetterthanUK,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=l1TTlFwE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-27T22:28:24.647+0000) > > The mode is fun, it takes no skill and is as random as rolling dice at the moment but if they normalize items then it will be 10/10 imo. I mean I agree the item rng needs to be improved but saying it takes no skill is complete bullshit lol. There is a reason top players of these types of games such as Wafu was #1 in mmr on PBE...... lmfao. LIke how dumb are you people to think their is no skill in this mode? Just a bunch of salty dumb kids haha. And I mean I am completely shit at it still learning a lot and some games I do get fucked over by RNG but for the most part I have been pretty consistent just need to learn item combos & champ combos better and roll with what I get.
: I'm not touching this mode with a 50ft pole.
I mean.... it's still fun. Queues on NA haven't been that bad..... longest wait I have seen is 15 mins.... The loot box this is complete bullshit & should be avoided that is true and I feel bad for people who fall prey to it.
Rioter Comments
: Quitting ranked this season, matchmaking isn't working in my favour and feels rigged.
I am not going to say match making is rigged because I don't think it is. However, I do think their match making system is shit. And I believe it is getting worse. One thing that has really stood out to me this season has how quickly I get into games on average. Now I am only gold like you and it's never been like.... a super long wait. But.... it seems quicker than normal. Yet, there are less players playing than there was a couple seasons ago (at least in the west). So..... how do I get quicker games with less players? ...... you guessed it.... shittier match making There's no way I will believe Riot hasn't allowed their match making algorithm to force quicker queues for all elos to make people get into games faster. Which I get waiting for games sucks but when your average game is a stomp because of shit match making then it doesn't make games fun. Plus makes playing ranked more annoying.
: Fuck Jungle
I mained jungle in season 6 & 7. Season 6 jungle was op and I get why it had to be nerfed (fun as hell though). Season 7 with the stupid catch up xp jungle fucking sucked to play. But I was only gold so it was w/e literally all I did was walk lane to lane & gank. My farm was so shit that season but I had a nice win rate and good k/d/a so it was whatever haha. But.... after changes in season 8 & 9 I really just don't like jungle anymore. I can't even describe why it just feels like so much pressure to do shit early game but your not really always strong enough to do shit yourself and you can't really trust your teammates to help you. Like in season 6 you could farm enough if your team was doing bad where you were still 1 of the highest levels in game & got enough gold to have items to fight fed enemy carries. But now you like need the xp & gold from camps but your not strong enough to shutdown enemy carries so you forced to gank. But when your laners behind that gnank can be easily turned. I think being good at jungle right now is very valuable and obviously good junglers have climbed very high. I just.... don't really get the role anymore and don't enjoy it. And it seems others feel the same way as I get autofilled jungle more than support lol along with others.
: I'm extremely happy. It was the right thing to do, the way he acted was disgusting on so many levels, and there were a myriad of things he did that would have resulted in the average playing getting banned. Congrats Riot for having a backbone against these entitled streamers.
> [{quoted}](name=xox BaByDoLL xox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9TrQjVsX,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-21T08:09:59.137+0000) > > I'm extremely happy. > It was the right thing to do, the way he acted was disgusting on so many levels, and there were a myriad of things he did that would have resulted in the average playing getting banned. > > Congrats Riot for having a backbone against these entitled streamers. My complaint is this. So if you just go off what he says then yes it is much worse. I don't know Riot's policy though on saying stuff in stream..... isn't that more of Twitche's area? Maybe they have a policy on it. But if you just go off what he typed the ban Is bullshit. People type that shit in games all the time and don't auto get 2 week ban for it. They get a chat restriction and if it keeps up they ultimately received bans, but it takes time to build up. It's most likely just a PR move honestly unless they have a policy of saying stuff on stream, which I am unaware of and they possibly could have. But if you just go off chat logs I don't see how it jumps from no offense to two week ban. I really feel like Riot is just a terrible company they can't do anything right lol. They take way too long to punish players when they troll & afk (not including playing first 15 mins and then sitting afk with other teammates since game is over like nb3 & his adc did). But people who just leave game or afk after like first 2 mins. There so many accounts in low elo that have like 0-100 scores from high elo people just trying to wreck noobs and have insane stats on certain champs and those accounts almost never get punished. I would much rather have a flamer on my team who is good cuz I can mute them. Not people who pick troll shit or afk from the start. -Someone who dislikes NB3 but feel more on his side of the current situation. I just really hate Riot's system all around it's so slow to punish and mostly only punishes talking rather than actual shittty troll behavior a majority of the time.
AWice (NA)
: Facts about NB3/Nubrac not usually discussed
Meh...... Nubrack definitely a troll. Deserved ban. NB3 has been very toxic..... idk if the 2 week ban for that one game is justified ... seems more like a pr move by Riot. I mean if you going to go off just his chat.... then he should have started with a chat restriction. I feel like in both situations Riot just abusing their power. Obviously they had to do something after the abuse of banning Nubrack but still think in both situations they fucking up. I wish they would outline a policy more on what is trolling. Becuase let's face it.... if his FUCKING TEAMMATES ARE AFKING BECUASE OF HIS SHIT STRAT... that seems fucking troll to me. If I am in game and my support just randomly says "YO DUDE IM GOING TO 2V1 MID THIS GAME CYA" and I get stuck at turret getting dove over & over by enemy jungler & bot you bet your ass I am going to be pissed. Of course.... you don't understand this so not sure why your post even has upvotes. Also.... if I am mid and I have a fucking Teemo sitting mid soaking my xp and putting me behind in levels I am also GOING TO BE FUCKING PISSED AND REPORT HIM. He literally fucked every lane over including NB3 in jungle. Literally just watch any analysis by high elo peeps that aren't nubrack and you will see why it ultimately a stupid fucking troll strat and unfun to play with in solo/duo queue. Now if he was on a team or he literally got all his teammates on board with it yea cool for him try it. But he literally made not only his jungler afk that game but also his adc & refused to leave mid when his mid laner told him too repeatedly. If I had a roaming teemo support in my games I would report them as well.
: got my friend permabannede - he blocked me on every media - did I do the right thing?
> [{quoted}](name=Yuumi or Dodge,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=cRgyM3ax,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-06-19T20:52:24.865+0000) > my question is, Was i in the right here? I was very upset by what he said in game. he also insults me outside of game too, calling me things like overweight, e-girl trash, I get carried all the time and that's why my winrate is so good, and that no one would ever want to go out with me (even though i have a girlfriend myself...) > Doesn't sound like a friend, just some salty asshole. I don't get why you friends with them in the first place honestly. Sounds just like a toxic relationship.
: > [{quoted}](name=Sewer Side,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Yy2q5uxm,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-06-20T13:38:58.153+0000) > > Richer than you, lmao. Still is gonna be nobody when the game dies. I don't give a shit about his wealth, ofc a piece of shit like him is gonna be rich.
> [{quoted}](name=The Spicy Crit,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Yy2q5uxm,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-06-20T13:43:12.399+0000) > > Still is gonna be nobody when the game dies. I don't give a shit about his wealth, ofc a piece of shit like him is gonna be rich. To be honest I think NB3 is a PoS. But after the whole incident I started watching his stream and I find his toxicity refreshing. I know that sounds fucked up but let me explain. So I started watching NB3 after his whole shitty youtbue series. So I am used to him talking like a fucking child. So hearing him do less of those voices and like curse people out was super refreshing to me haha. But ultimately here is why. I think it's very obvious a lot of these old players are very sick of League, but depend on it to make money. On top of that, it is no denying the game has been changing since it's release especially these last two seasons. The game is more focused on faster pacing, damage is super high, baron is auto win almost and super easy to kill, rift herald addition, weaker turrets, etc. etc. etc. And I get a lot of people love these changes, others don't, but you have to realize this current form of League is not the same League us vets played when we fell in love with this game. Its like comparing WoW classic to one of the recent expansions (probably not BFA lol). It's just different. And I think a lot of us find these changes frustrating. Imagine being Qtpie, NB3 or some of these other streaming pros. You have been challenger forever and know the game like the back of your hand. Now all of a sudden the game changes to a less solo carry style to a more team style. Makes great for arranged 5v5. But these guys don't make their living off arranged 5v5 (aka LCS LEC etc.). They make it off of streaming solo/duo queue. And solo due queue is no longer the same feeling as it used to have. It's less about macro and scaling and more about being aggressive, snow balling hard. Not making excuses for people who get stuck in climbing, but ranked is just different these days. So I feel these guys frustrations when I see them getting mad playing ranked, because I feel the same way. The game just feels different. I honestly also think NB3 is right in that game. Not about like talking to a Riot friend but I feel teemo roaming support is super troll especially after hearing other players like the mid didn't want him to be there. LIke NB3 & others have played for fucking ever..... they know having a support sit mid is generally not the best start but then you havet his dude come in and do some troll shit like that? HOw you not going to get annoyed. Maybe it looks cool to people who have played only for a couple of seasons.... but to vets its like "dude thats so 2012.... we learned that shit don't work as well as the meta stop it". Not trying to excuse streamers behaviors but I understand why these older players at least at some level may feel so annoyed with League these days.
: Hey Junglers, let me explain to you why top laners are always so toxic (explaining; not excusing it)
I feel bad when I mained jungle (sorta still offmain it) I neglected my top a lot. I think it's just not understanding it. Top is by far my worst role and I really do hate playing it. Not that I hate my top laners it's just.... idk makes more sense for me to hang around mid/bot a lot of the time. Plus I am bad and don't understand what breaking a freeze means. Which is why I am especially bad at top since freezes fucking kill me since I am used to being ranked in mid/bot but being melee in a freeze verse a fed or counter top laner feels really shitty. So now that I type this I get what you mean by breaking the feeze lmfao. I really just don't like jungling anymore. I feel like there is so much pressure to have an impact early and if you don't your team just gets rolled over. So now I lane and just hope my jungler can have some impact. Its fucked but jungle is tough man like if you don't get some pressure early and all your lanes behind your basically done. Enemy jungle just takes neural camps, has the vision, gets the easy ganks and kills and you basically just waiting for misplays. It feels fucking terrible and is why I stopped jungling. I probably just need to sit down and watch some vids since I haven't since like season 7 on jungle but I have moved onto playing bot/support right now.
: Here's the thing. The player was not doing anything necessarily wrong. He wasn't intentionally trying to lose the game. He got to masters and has been using this strategy and staying in masters. So obviously he hasn't been losing intentionally, or too often because of it. Nightblue is just looking for an excuse as to why he lost the game. Also I would say he should have been banned for his constant flaming, not just in this case but he flames a lot. Rabia (Nightblue) is 100% in the wrong here. He DID abuse his power, and unfortunately someone who wasn't even trolling went down because of it. Also, it's unusual that someone would be suspended for only ONE game with a clean record beforehand. I believe that also has to do with the fact that Nightblue is the one who submitted the ticket. However, Nightblue is not the main one at fault, but Riot is, as they not only submitted to him, but also didn't do their research or possibly even care to think that he could be wrong. In short, NB3 is toxic, sucked Rito's dick bc he lost a game and acted like a 2 year old throwing a temper tantrum and got a player banned just because he used a non-meta strategy. If this was you, just because you played differently, would you want a ban?
> [{quoted}](name=WhatTheJake,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8h9EE9eK,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-17T06:18:22.815+0000) > > Here's the thing. > The player was not doing anything necessarily wrong. He wasn't intentionally trying to lose the game. He got to masters and has been using this strategy and staying in masters. So obviously he hasn't been losing intentionally, or too often because of it. Nightblue is just looking for an excuse as to why he lost the game. Also I would say he should have been banned for his constant flaming, not just in this case but he flames a lot. Rabia (Nightblue) is 100% in the wrong here. He DID abuse his power, and unfortunately someone who wasn't even trolling went down because of it. Also, it's unusual that someone would be suspended for only ONE game with a clean record beforehand. I believe that also has to do with the fact that Nightblue is the one who submitted the ticket. However, Nightblue is not the main one at fault, but Riot is, as they not only submitted to him, but also didn't do their research or possibly even care to think that he could be wrong. In short, NB3 is toxic, sucked Rito's dick bc he lost a game and acted like a 2 year old throwing a temper tantrum and got a player banned just because he used a non-meta strategy. If this was you, just because you played differently, would you want a ban? As much as I love piling on NB3 as I really dislike him, I have to say after a lot of thinking he is in the right. Well... not all the flame and name calling. But this teemo is fucking trolling and I can guarntee even in shit ass gold I am going to see "roaming" teemo supports that going to tilt so many people. The reality is you can't pick some troll shit in solo queue especially something like a roaming support and then just expect your teammates to think it cool like leaving your adc to 2v1 bot while stealing xp from your mid. If arranged team 5v5 where you know the players.... yea no shit it's fine. But just taking a champ who historically is not great in a role... then not even playing that role is complete and utter troll and should be punished. I get why NB3 frustrated hell I am super frustrated with this game as vet. Solo queue is a lot harder to carry in that it used to be. Then he runs into this dude who is doing a strat that is known to be bullshit and worse on average that the regular strat and having to deal with it in season 9? Like lmfao.... If in most your games your titling everyone on your team why would that not be reportable? This is high elo.... these players know how to punish this strat. Its known to be worse than meta play. Why wouldn't it be punishable? "but he wins games sometimes". lmfao.... soo? Doesn't mean it doesn't tilt the shit out of his team or is the best way to play the game. I would be so pissed if I had this guy as my "support". Leaving your adc 2v1 bot while they just get continue dove by enemy jungler lmfao.... It would tilt me off the face of the earth. Just to get mid.... a couple creep kill advantage while also stealing their xp and making them many levels behind enemy mid. ..... yup.... great strategy.
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: Daily Reminder that people want to choose their own Profile Borders
I DON'T GET WHY I CAN ONLY HAVE A FUCKING RANKED BORDER OR FUCKING LEVEL. JESUS FUCK RIOT HOW SHIT ARE U. Plus it's great that I never have a border in norms anymore. God this company so fucking bad at their jobs I hate myself for playing their game so much. I don't even like the dynamic borders to begin with they make ranked feel so shit. Plus they look ugly as fuck this season. I liked slaving a way for a year in hopes to have that new border for year. Now it's just w/e fucking rank you are... it only shows up half the fucking time... looks like shit..... yawn fuckng fest
Antenora (EUW)
: I miss when scaling champions were actually weak early. {{champion:24}} {{champion:222}} {{champion:15}} in particular.
> [{quoted}](name=Antenora,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nIE6wM7E,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-06-06T12:58:39.256+0000) > > I miss when scaling champions were actually weak early. > > {{champion:24}} {{champion:222}} {{champion:15}} in particular. {{champion:67}}
: I can't win
Only way I was able to climb (only gold 3 right now... which is like basically old gold 5 and a shit show so... not really climbing) was focusing on 1 role and a couple champions. Actually... since I mained adc most of the season I duo'd a lot!. Need to fucking duo as adc or you fucked honestly. So yea.... duoing lmfao. Which is dumb since I have been mid gold mmr last like 3-4 seasons but this season felt especially shit to climb solo. Well so did last season. I really like.... want to play more ranked but then I remember how terrible almost every game feels and how I am most likely 1 loss away from demotion and I think "meh rather do something else". I miss League pre runes reforge and all the changes since season 7 (even though I really didn't like season 7).
: I really want to quit this game.
I think the worst part of this season is match making. It's probably compounded by all the other shit I dislike and is what is making matches feel so terrible but yea..... can honestly say vast majority of my games feel just boring to play. Stomp or be stomped, always someone in the game that shouldn't be. Generally whoever has the beyond worst player losses and I get them over 50% of the time. When I win a lot of the time it's my team stomping and the game just feeling boring. Can count on one hand the number of times this season I have felt like outclassed in ranked.... Shit's so sad. How are you supposed to get better when you constantly playing people are equal or worse than you but you get dragged down by teammates who shouldn't be in the game? Or winning because enemy team has players that shouldn't be in the game? Match making never been great but feels like it just getting worse every season. Mostly because all of the changes have made the game faster paced which makes solo carry harder and solo queue shittier since Riot has focused around pro 5v5 balance forever. But yea.... fucking match making and fuck solo/duo queue lol. Norms if shit too match making wise but generally just go into it not giving a fuck so it still can be fun. But ranked.... uggg ranked so fucking sad these days
Pika Fox (NA)
: Again, you clearly have no idea what the structure is and how it works, so take your own advice. Theres a reason they designed it, and not you. Probably has something to do with they know what theyre doing, and you dont.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=texrnph0,comment-id=000000000001000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-15T20:11:12.740+0000) > > Again, you clearly have no idea what the structure is and how it works, so take your own advice. Theres a reason they designed it, and not you. Probably has something to do with they know what theyre doing, and you dont. Haha tell me what their structure is then and how it works. I would love to hear it from you. Please enlighten me.
Pika Fox (NA)
: Because youre making a statement about ranked structure, whether or not i actively participate in ranked is irrelevant. If youre talking about credentials necessary, you have none to begin with.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=texrnph0,comment-id=0000000000010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-14T21:18:58.829+0000) > > Because youre making a statement about ranked structure, whether or not i actively participate in ranked is irrelevant. If youre talking about credentials necessary, you have none to begin with. I mean.... it seems pretty damn relevant to me. But your original comment was about Iron. Which structurally is not what Riot has done. Plus the total population having less than the number of players in diamond makes no sense. For you to sit her and tell me it does shows your ignorance. And then you add on you don't even play ranked, no wonder you don't have any idea how this structure actual works rather than theoretically. So wtf are you doing? Why are you commenting on this thread? if 1. its something you will never play or use 2. you have no idea wtf your talking about? I only respond because I am fascinated by your lack of relevance in this matter. This would be like me commenting on why bans in ARAM or either good or bad and then bashing people over their opinions when in reality I hardly play ARAM ever and the change means nothing to me either way. If you don't play ranked don't comment on it. Its quite simple.
Stwessed (NA)
: They won't restore your LP don't even try lmao but the issue is a severe lag between letting you lock in your ban/pick that ive noticed so i always give it like an extra 5 seconds instead of waiting until 1
> [{quoted}](name=Stwessed,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=jm2FXqg8,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-14T16:50:41.673+0000) > > They won't restore your LP don't even try lmao but the issue is a severe lag between letting you lock in your ban/pick that ive noticed so i always give it like an extra 5 seconds instead of waiting until 1 shitty part is I had 8-10 seconds lmfao. Just straight up nothing. Game kicked me off "to repatch for 1 second". Then had to log back in. Cool shit Riot.. cool shit.
Pika Fox (NA)
: I played like 20 games of ranked total years ago with friends, league doesnt even know what rank i am, much less some random on the internet. Your argument holds no merit or weight.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=texrnph0,comment-id=00000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-14T18:04:58.570+0000) > > I played like 20 games of ranked total years ago with friends, league doesnt even know what rank i am, much less some random on the internet. Your argument holds no merit or weight. That's my point. You don't play ranked.... then wtf you doing commenting about it acting like you know anything about it? There's so many trolls like you it's so exhausting
Zardo (NA)
: I think i'm starting to see why everyone gets all these "trolls" on their teams
Pika Fox (NA)
: And this is why youre not in charge of important decisions, and are just here on the boards.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=texrnph0,comment-id=000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-10T01:38:59.111+0000) > > And this is why youre not in charge of important decisions, and are just here on the boards. awe does silver scrub want free victorious skin instead of improving? In that what it is? lmao. Your pathetic. Grow up and work towards something you man child or child child.
: I have no idea how matchmaking is to be worse when it has never taken into account rank and that will not change even if riot goes with what blastoise is saying. So I really want to know how would matchmaking be worst?
> [{quoted}](name=ZephyrDrake,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=texrnph0,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-05-10T01:52:08.138+0000) > > I have no idea how matchmaking is to be worse when it has never taken into account rank and that will not change even if riot goes with what blastoise is saying. So I really want to know how would matchmaking be worst? If you can't think of how having more people in one rank doesn't make ranked worse than there is no helping you. Read some books friend and use some critical thinking.
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Pika Fox (NA)
: Its meant to be a new player haven, not a funnel for everyone. Of course its going to be a small %.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=texrnph0,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2019-05-09T17:24:42.284+0000) > > Its meant to be a new player haven, not a funnel for everyone. Of course its going to be a small %. well this "small haven" change + them removing div 5 has cost the ranked ladder harder than any season ever I would argue. Good job Riot job well done :). You don't see how dumb it is that iron less % than diamond? Like really? I know why Riot added iron and I am here to say they fucked it up. Player pop in Iron should be at least double what it is now probaby more like 8% of player pop at end of the season. Not 2.85% in fucking may 2019 lmfao.
: I think grandmaster is the reason. The good diamond players moved there, which made diamond easier to climb through, which made everything else below easier in a butterfly effect.
> [{quoted}](name=Thaum1568,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=texrnph0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-08T16:34:08.120+0000) > > I think grandmaster is the reason. The good diamond players moved there, which made diamond easier to climb through, which made everything else below easier in a butterfly effect. there's like 800 people in grandmaster................................... there are literally double the amount of players in diamond than last season, which is a lot more than the player population in grandmaster. Do you even math bro? I mean.... holy fuck this is simple as fuck math lol.
Pika Fox (NA)
: Iron also exists as a filter for bronze and silver.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=texrnph0,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-05-08T16:36:22.130+0000) > > Iron also exists as a filter for bronze and silver. you do realize it has less than 3% of the player population right? THERE ARE LESS PEOPLE IN IRON THAN IN DIAMOND. lmfao. Not shit it's a filter but its literally doing nothing right now. They fucked up big with that tier having a chance to spread out more of bronze and silver. And instead they squashed other tiers making them more populated and mean less while adding a useless tier. Is it really that hard to understand how dumb of a move this was by them?
: its too easy to demote tier and get your mmr fucked
sounds like you got lucky and ranked up due to over lp gains at beginning of the season. But gold 4 is now old silver 1 plus gold 5... so who the f knows what rank anyone is anymore. I did have what happened to you happen to me back in season 6 preseason and it was fucking terrible lol. I mean I don't agree it's too easy to demote a tier...... because it isn't. Its actually really hard to lose that much to demote honestly. Only reason it happened to me is It was the season of dynamic queue and I started playing with silver friends who brought my mmr down and then we went on long losing streaks. Plus since season was over and I already got rewards I picked champs I sucked with and kept losing. But yea... once your mmr trashed it really is hard to rank up again. Lucky for me next season started soon and reset my mmr so it didn't matter. But honestly sounds like you probably shouldn't be gold or trolled too hard. Sorry not sorry. But.... I do believe this ranked system is trash and match making does suck ass soooooo you could be right. All I know is once I finally got good enough to reach gold (gold lul...) It was fairly easy for me to hit it on multiple accounts in multiple seasons. But once season 8 hit and damage creeped plus all this other shit changes I know it is much harder for me to rank up. Feel like all this shit I learned over like 6-7 years got thrown out the window and now its basically team death match.
: > [{quoted}](name=KirbyCake,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=texrnph0,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-08T17:52:21.724+0000) > > They are effectively boosting each tier by one because their game is literally dying and they want people to feel like they've climbed in ranks and made progress when in reality they are still the same boosted monkey as before that did not get better at all. > > People were already making memes about diamond 5 being trash in previous seasons. Now diamond 4 will be considered beyond trash because it is ridiculously easy to get compared to d5 in previous seasons which was already considered trash. Exactly. I remember Starcraft 2 did the samething. I was proud of diamond in season 1, then I check back a few years later and they inflate all the ranks (adding other ranks above it) so everyone artificially moves up and they hand diamond out for free. Its a middle finger to the long term players and a cheap desperate appeal to the "newer" players IMO.
> [{quoted}](name=Kanyoupipu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=texrnph0,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-08T19:11:25.092+0000) > > Exactly. I remember Starcraft 2 did the samething. I was proud of diamond in season 1, then I check back a few years later and they inflate all the ranks (adding other ranks above it) so everyone artificially moves up and they hand diamond out for free. > > Its a middle finger to the long term players and a cheap desperate appeal to the "newer" players IMO. I remember that in Starcraft and I felt the same way lol.
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: I hate playing Normal game because of the sh!t matchmaking...
ranked is worse lmfao. At least you don't lose lp when you lose norms
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