: Gold players love playing Jayce?
: 10L/0W - Bronze when I play like s1-g5
Not really sure what to tell you going 0-10 in placements is hard to do. Sometimes you get unlucky in some games but some of those games should be winnable. A lot of it sounds like tilt. I mean if you raging enough to get an account banned that is a bad sign. You too focused on others mistakes and being angry, which is clouding your thinking and judgement. I know back in season 3 I was pissed that I was starting rank of bronze 4. Although ranked was new to me and many of my friends, I was still the lowest rank of any of my friends. So at first I was mad and made fun of those around me. Then I just figured bitching wasn't going to help so I just needed to prove myself. So I played the games, beat up on the players I was better than, lost some games hard. Eventually I learned more and climbed to silver, which I was super excited about at the time. Sadly I got stuck in silver 2 for a couple seasons since I stopped learning and more just spammed games and tilted. Then I remembered I could only control myself, so I calmed down, focused on improving, and slowly climbed to gold. My peak is only gold 2 so Its not a story of "yea I went from bronze to diamond in 1 season". But basically its just staying calm, controlling what you can, learning, and playing games until you win enough to reach your goal rank. Hell.. this season I really let tilted affect me. I was pissed at this game's placement system. I was so mad that I dropped from gold 3 to bronze 1 at the start of the season. But I am slowly on my way back to gold. Tilt and not adjusting to new meta has made the climb slower than intended but I have finally accepted I am currently in silver and just trying to play my best and improve each game. It may be a slow process but I am confident I will be back in gold eventually.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dukues,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hEPPxa2c,comment-id=00080001,timestamp=2017-05-24T13:38:25.774+0000) > > Have they announced these "double" rewards yet. Honestly I am all for people getting extra rewards for doing w/e in both queues except for how shitty their placement system is. I have seen people with 6-4 records being placed in flex gold basically easily setting themselves up for double rewards. While others have to play hundreds of games in both queues. Maybe if Riot got better at making a more even placement system then rewards would make more sense. > > Only reason I won't get double rewards is I doubt I will play enough flex queue to hit gold. Because I didn't get the "magic" placement games to start in gold like some lucky fucks. Never lucky. If it makes you feel better, I solo'd my way to gold through flex and yolo queue after being placed in bronze 1 both times. Was funny seeing the system scramble to make up for its mistake giving me 28 lp per win and only -13 lp per loss. I also managed to skip a division through silver. The system can place you wherever it wants, but if you don't deserve to be there you'll climb out quickly
Fair. I just want a free hand out for once lol. I will probably go for gold in both just working on solo/duo right now.
Yaseeda (NA)
: Old ranking system was better....
When I first started playing ranked in season 2 I didn't really like the elo system because the incentive to climb just wasn't there for me. I was bronze with like 1000 mmr or w/e and I think silver was 1200 mmr. I just couldn't see me getting 200 mmr without losing a bunch so didn't really play much ranked. With the new system though, it gave me motivation to try and climb since you were going for getting 100 lp in a division. That being said I do think it's dumb that people can be 1 rank but have the mmr of another rank in the current system.
: Now go get Gold V in flex for the double reward @ seasons end
> [{quoted}](name=Hexs Fortune,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hEPPxa2c,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-05-24T03:57:07.205+0000) > > Now go get Gold V in flex for the double reward @ seasons end Have they announced these "double" rewards yet. Honestly I am all for people getting extra rewards for doing w/e in both queues except for how shitty their placement system is. I have seen people with 6-4 records being placed in flex gold basically easily setting themselves up for double rewards. While others have to play hundreds of games in both queues. Maybe if Riot got better at making a more even placement system then rewards would make more sense. Only reason I won't get double rewards is I doubt I will play enough flex queue to hit gold. Because I didn't get the "magic" placement games to start in gold like some lucky fucks. Never lucky.
: Oh my. Do I event want to climb out of Bronze now? Yikes.
> [{quoted}](name=TherianSeal,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YaAuEnkg,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-05-24T10:07:11.436+0000) > > Oh my. Do I event want to climb out of Bronze now? Yikes. You don't want a nasty silver border? Sorry I just... was hard stuck in silver for a couple seasons and I really got sick of the silver border haha. Its not that bad I just don't like having one which is the main reason I am even still playing the game right now trying to get back to gold. Don't want to log in one day and see another silver border around my name haha.
: Why is silver more troll than bronze?
Yea honestly silver is a complete shit show. Its hard to get consistent competitive games. Really wish Riot would lower starting mmr for new accounts since it really hurts silver but.... they never will. I just include silver 5 in bronze to be honest... hell most the time silver 4 as well. Silver 3 is generally around 50% of the player population at least at end of the season. My personal most despised division in the game that I have experienced is silver 2. Always hated it in past seasons and it is where I currently am this season and can't way to get past it.
: 10 ban system - another unfinished good idea
I like it . Anyone who complains about pressure bans really baffle me. High elo players know who they going to ban so it basically leaves low elo. And low elo such a cluster bans change all the time and don't really matter.
: i personally never play ranked but all i know is bronze is the biggest joke in league. i recently decided to do my placements for the season because i was bored and i did decent 7/3 with the losses being the bot lane got fed and i couldn't do anything. and i got placed in bronze 5 which really doesn't matter to me since i only play normals but i have played 7 games since i got that and every single game was a bigger joke than the next the first game i got was against a heal ghost level 7 mastery illaoi that played so bad and i could include the rest but it would take too long for me to type everything seeing how basically everything anyone bronze player does is a joke
True yea I was looking at your stats that's f'd up your in bronze. Hell... for so many years I been trying to even get a smurf account into bronze 5 and wasn't able to. But since you were placed in bronze last season it basically instantly said "f u" and put you there anyway. That's what hate about this games placement system though it doesn't really take much into consideration. Like this season really tilted me for a couple reasons. I know you drop ranks at the start of seasons, I am used to it so I just play placements quickly not really carrying too much. Well I did poor on my main account and dropped from gold 3 to bronze 1, which was farther than I expected. The thing that tilted me though was this. So I had another account that ended the season in silver 5. Since it had silver 4-5 mmr and I did placements at the start of the season I was like "f yea! I can finally land in like bronze 4-5". So I just played placements and I played some champs I don't normally play but tried hard because I didn't think it mattered. So I went 9-1 playing mostly just mid silver and bronze players..... and got placed bronze 1. So.. my main account dropped from Gold 3 to bronze 1 with 2-8 placements vs mid gold & plat 4-5 players. But then going 9-1 on an account with starting silver 4-5 mmr and playing maybe max of silver 3 players also = bronze 1. The shit is so inconsistent it's beyond retarded. So now here I am slowly climbing through silver again in a season when I just wanted to play casually. But that's the ranked system we have and I ultimately knew what I was getting myself into. If anyone tries to argue my placements were accurate since I got the same thing twice honestly f off. If it was accurate I would have started in or around the same population distribution percentage as I ended season 6, which was top 20% of players. All of season 6 I was at least ranked in top 25% of players... which is no where close to pro but it is also not top 60% of players, which was what bronze 1 was right at the start of season 7 (if my memory is correct). Plus I literally ranked 3 accounts to gold last season all with over 50% win rates, the best being gold 4 with gold 3 or higher mmr and a 57% win rate. Not trying to brag I know those aren't pro stats just saying that kind of shows I had more than a silver or bronze knowledge of the game. And since I did placements at the start of the season I still had that same knowledge.... not like now where I am coming back from a break so I am a little rusty.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Dukues,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vVO2MN6J,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-05-23T20:19:54.676+0000) > > that happened to me too haha. First time this season i got promoted went 0-6. The went 3-0 to get back in then lost a bunch think I was 1-8 after my first initial 9 matches in silver 2 for season 7. I always hated silver 2... something about it always fucked with me in the past and apparently now this season as well. Once I get past It I have never really had a problem hitting gold. But silver 2..... such a toxic division. I beyond hate being in silver 2 lol. BUT WHY IS IT!!! Why is silver 1 so easy... I just want to get out of silver 3 and through silver 2....
Well matches really should be tied to mmr. My theory has always been that if your mmr is normal & around silver 2 that based on match making your sometimes the highest rank player in game and other times you lowest. I can't really prove this but what I have always thought is silver 2 is like a bridge between the silver 1 & gold games and silver 3 - silver 5. So like... one game most people will be like silver 3 or 4 and the next will be silver 1 or 2 or gold. And I think it just creates this weird ass inconsistent ranked experience. Like... one game will feel more like a game where people have a general idea of what is going on. So you start expecting that for the next game. Well the next game comes and now all of a sudden everything is a mess shit hits the fan its an all out clown fiesta. Then the next the game is a little more organized again, then back to clown fiesta. And its just a back & forth mess. But then when you hit silver 1 assuming your mmr is normal you play mostly gold 4 - silver 1 players so games are more consistent.
Verxint (NA)
: I suppose something similar to decay could work, where if you don't play normals for a long time your MMR starts to drift towards your ranked MMR. But part of the problem is that normals MMR will always be flawed - the matchmaker prioritizes wait time over game quality and there is a larger difference between how people play normals. Almost everyone in ranked is serious, relativley speaking, but a lot of people play normals with varying levels of silliness and memes. People's normal MMR is probably never going to be as good of a measure of their skill as Ranked MMR.
: Promoted to Silver 2, lost 100% of games
that happened to me too haha. First time this season i got promoted went 0-6. The went 3-0 to get back in then lost a bunch think I was 1-8 after my first initial 9 matches in silver 2 for season 7. I always hated silver 2... something about it always fucked with me in the past and apparently now this season as well. Once I get past It I have never really had a problem hitting gold. But silver 2..... such a toxic division. I beyond hate being in silver 2 lol.
Verxint (NA)
: It would make it worse, that was my point. Why would you want to make it worse?
> [{quoted}](name=Verxint,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=ondLuAwZ,comment-id=00000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-23T19:46:59.856+0000) > > It would make it worse, that was my point. Why would you want to make it worse? I always thought it would make sense to at least have normal mmr and ranked somewhat connected. Like within a tier. I get what your saying but that's also assuming everything is all or nothing. No give or take. I think it would make sense to not have them necessarily mirror each other, but be somewhat connected. There is no reason to have normal mmr of bronze and be plat in ranked and assume that is a good match up. No reason the plat ranked player shouldn't have at least gold mmr. I would just use like a tier's worth of elo to separate them if a players normal mmr is low compared to their ranked.
Verxint (NA)
: Because then one of two things has to happen: 1. People earn ranked MMR from playing normals 2. People win normals and the matchmaker continues to match them at the same level Both of these will result in mismatched games in the long run.
> [{quoted}](name=Verxint,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=ondLuAwZ,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2017-05-23T19:39:29.305+0000) > > Because then one of two things has to happen: > > 1. People earn ranked MMR from playing normals > 2. People win normals and the matchmaker continues to match them at the same level > > Both of these will result in mismatched games in the long run. ..... the games are already insanely mismatched now. Wtf is the difference then?
: Silver 2.... Cant win one game
I more or less just look for a champ I can see working for me in a meta that I enjoy and play a lot of them. I have really been feeling {{champion:79}} jungle right now. Starting to get it figured out and looking forward to doing some climbing in the near future.
: Keystone Masteries in Low-Level Games
There's players that aren't level 30?
: Just curious, why the aversion to 40 minute games?
Its a weird thing I don't even know how to describe it hell I don't even know what the average game time is right now compared to prior seasons. Low elo is weird, especially silver & bronze where people just don't really have any idea how to end a game at all. So when towers are strong and the meta is more late game is leads to really long low silver & bronze games. Now even when the meta is quicker I think the games still get dragged on way too long but maybe not quite as long. So I like it if towers aren't quite as strong as they were in the past so at least games are a little easier to end early on. But at the same time games feel a little too snowball for me right now. I guess I just though season 6 was really well at least the later half of the season where games would get to mid & late game but weren't always super long 40+ min games. All the seasons starting to blend together now for me I don't even know anymore.
: about winning lanes
Like I get if you winning lane and want to go roam for kills but you can't just constantly do that. I have seen so many mids roam and they may get a kill top.... but enemy mid turret still up and guess what? They at our mid turret kicking its ass while our mid just went top for a useless kill. Tilts me so damn hard.
: about winning lanes
: One mistake is too costly
I am so torn this season. I really hate the snowballing and pressure to play early pressure meta junglers but I also disliked back in the past when average game time was like 40 mins. I miss season 6 honestly..... I am probably forgetting some things but meh.... I felt at least a good chunk of my games were fairly even. Right now just feels more of a shit show between who gets a lead who knows what to do with it. Get really sick of people having over 12 deaths a game and trying to carry them. I get it... it happens to me once in awhile too but fuck man I can't just imagine almost every game is someones worst game of the season. I think last season my most deaths was like 13 in hundreds of ranked games. Maybe it was 16 idk... its usually not insanely high for a season especially when you see people with more deaths at least every few games. My last ranked game on this account pissed me off because my teammates would not chill the f out and just play safe. Hell... I did more damage than my {{champion:51}} & {{champion:143}} support as tank {{champion:79}}. But the enemy team did have a lot of assassins that could kill my teammates quickly so I am sure I got a lot of dmg just peeling for them. But fuck man... {{champion:143}} had like 14-15 deaths.... now I know enemy had some assassins but that is just being careless. Now when I look at the end game stats I see I was exploited the most as enemy jungler had 5K MORE GOLD than me. Which is honestly embarrassing. But honestly this is what frustrates me with this season. Last season I would have said fuck it, I can carry as jungle so I will just farm and let you feeders keep feeding in hopes I can carry. But playing a tank because no one wants to fucking tank plus jungle being weaker I felt obligated to try and protect my carries more than just farm my jungle like enemy {{champion:121}} did. So I am sure I messed up and needed to farm more but fuck... if they just stayed more with me in late game and {{champion:143}} stopped face checking bushes into enemy team and instead sat back and played peel with me while doing that amazing {{champion:143}} damage we had a chance of winning. But nope..... everyone is apparently freaken clueless. And that is why I hate ranked. I know I suck but fuck I miss playing with people who at least were thinking on the same level as me. If I was I could have actually focused on farming up and peeling rather than going out of my way to save my teammates as I see them randomly walking past wards into enemy jungle about to be assassinated by {{champion:121}} & {{champion:38}} in the late game. Fucking clueless people man.
Rioter Comments
: The game currently is about who has the better jungler. If you have the worse jungler, 8 out of 10 times you lose by 15 minute.
> [{quoted}](name=FF Hyperion,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vI8787EV,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-05-23T14:06:53.374+0000) > > The game currently is about who has the better jungler. > > If you have the worse jungler, 8 out of 10 times you lose by 15 minute. that's every season tough..... and honestly its less effective this year than in season 6. If it was still season 6 I would be climbing much easier since jungle could carry much harder.
: Leauge isnt a skilled game anymore OPIONIONS???
I mean I am having my struggles as well and honestly I really dislike this season and the current meta but League is definitely still a skill based game. My problem is matches just feel.... really uneven right now. Like.. one team will have a couple veteran players who know at least have some idea what's going on while the other team will have a bunch of new players. Which.... I feel puts the team with less experienced players at a disadvantage. Combine that with a snowball meta I find climbing harder now than I did in season 6. In season 6 I hit gold on 3 accounts doing different roles. But right now I am struggling to get out of silver 2 playing my main role. The jungle changes at the start of season 7 really messed with me and I did take roughly 3 months off. I am starting to figure it out now but holy hell have I had many many many frustrating games. I know I am not close to great at this game but.... I do know how to play the game at a decent level. But feel like I am being punished for not being a great early game player. When in reality silver is mostly a bunch of people who are ok at the game for 10 mins before losing track of what's going on. Last season I ranked 3 accounts up through silver all with over 54% win rates because I knew mid & late game better than most the people I played against and used that to my advantage a lot. But right now none of that seems to matter since there so many damn snow ball games.
: This match making is busted
Been saying it for years but Riot doesn't listen. New accounts have way too high of starting mmr and makes an already hard to balance and chaotic elo more chaotic.
: I understand we're all excited for the death of Yasuo and Lee Sin
Not sure what elo you in but in mine it's a blessing if you ban those champs even if your teammate wants to play them. At this point I would rather have someone dodge than play with them as {{champion:157}} or {{champion:64}}. And if they going to troll then they better bring their A game because I am willing to ride with them to the gates of hell. I am not afraid of a loss to leave a very detailed report.
: A Message to the Boards. A Bigger Issue than 10 Bans.
Why does this have so many up votes? lol. I thought the boards hated common sense? Strange. I definitely don't agree with the point about the 10 ban system and not even going to pretend like I understand the either side. I don't really even see how there are two sides to it and I am usually pretty good at looking at multiple points of view. The only thing that makes sense to me is Riot wants to just save time to avoid more dodgers and not having some champs banned 100% of the time. But if that's the case then they basically just half assed an idea that will fail.
: Ranked Gone Wrong
I give you an up vote because I do think the system is garbage. That being said, I definitely think you're in or around your correct rank. I know that sounds mean or w/e and I am not trying to be so just hear me out. Like.... this system sucks on a game to game basis. So you really can't focus on that. You more or less just have to focus on yourself and try to do your best every game. I know it sounds cliche but its the truth. Hell I am hard stuck silver 2 right now and pissed about it. Ranked 3 accounts to gold last season and was hoping to just hit gold quick this season then play casually. Sadly I am struggling so I need to get back on focusing on improving and figuring a couple champs that work for me in the current meta so I can make as big an impact as possible each game. Its not easy, some games are unwinnable, but the better you get the more influence you have on games, the more you punish the enemy for their mistakes, and slowly your win rate rises and so does your rank. Or maybe quickly if you really do deserve a higher rank. And hell maybe you are a higher ranking player and just had some tough games. I know last season 1 of my accounts was in bronze and when I started ranking it up it had a bad record. But once I adjusted to what was going on around me and just focused on my game next thing I knew I was in gold with an ok win rate. Just looking at your jungle games you cs/min is a little low. Not that there is an exact number but your between 2.5-3 something c/s min. Depending on character and game shit can change but honestly jungles I think should have at least 4-5 cs/min. Can't remember what challenger players strive for as jungle I am sure it's higher. But basically, that means you are ganking too much or spending too much time walking around rather than farming. You do need to apply pressure to lanes and grab objectives, but you also need to make sure to farm your camps too. It hard to learn how to balance them and trust me I am still learning too. But that's one thing you should focus on more. You will get some more experience = higher level during game + more gold for more items. I am sure there are many other things for you to work on but sometimes its just focusing on a couple things and building off it. It also doesn't hurt to read guides about roles and about a certain champ. That way you learn how to play the champ properly along with the role and what items to generally build. This game is easy conceptually, but hard to master. Good luck on your climb. Waive to me when you pass me in silver 2 as it looks like I may be here awhile :(.
: "HEHE ADC 2K17"
Fuck man I hear ya. Adcs at the start of the season were in a tough spot. I went 2-8 in my placement games, with a majority of my games being adc. Now I won't pretend to be a great adc... but that record does not reflect my actual or adc skill accurately. But damn adc was tough at the start of the season. Now it seems to be back to being strong where good adcs can carry. So yea... that jinx is really damn bad and no idea why anyone would even spam a meme like that. Is there really even a stronger role than any other? Jungle was definitely nerfed at the start of the season but maybe it still number one? Doesn't really feel like it to me. It really damn important role but unlike season 6 I can't just auto carry if my team behind or if I get way ahead or at least as easily as I could last season. Fuck... I miss being {{champion:254}} last season and get a couple early ganks in but then just farming up out levelilng enemy jungler and enemy team then getting some picks during the game to push objectives. I could split push if needed, force objectives. Game was in my hands. Now it sorta feels that way... except team feeds like crazy and games snowball so hard if I don't get fed or help lanes get fed early we might not even get to mid game. Sucks when comparing seasons as a jungler... at least to me in low elo.
: Just saying but last year wasn't near of this meta. Games are hell more shorts. And if u are gold V or below u are matched with high silver and low gold. The more u climb the better Lee are (obvious) cause people know how to end. But in the end level in gold is weak.
> [{quoted}](name=Ryuumoku no koke,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ya4ZpMAm,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-22T15:43:29.076+0000) > > Just saying but last year wasn't near of this meta. Games are hell more shorts. And if u are gold V or below u are matched with high silver and low gold. > > The more u climb the better Lee are (obvious) cause people know how to end. But in the end level in gold is weak. True. I really dislike current meta. Not saying I love 50 min games all the time but I don't like games ending in stomps so often either.
Eedat (NA)
: > silver too... hell maybe even gold. I'm Gold. I dont even consider banning Lee
Yea I never really did either. At least last season when I was around gold 2 & 3 with higher mmr then I started thinking about it since started seeing a lot of plats play him. Not that it felt "o fuck holy shit ban this champ asap" but more or less just got annoying. But right now hard stuck silver 2 and I just laugh anytime I see someone pick lee. Well... I mean I cry when he on my team but since I maining jungle again now I don't really have to worry about that.
: How do you play against Pantheon?
He wins lane, you win game because he falls off so damn hard. Its sad when he on your team and hilarious when he on the enemy team.
Eedat (NA)
: Wastes a ban on {{champion:64}} in Bronze http://imgur.com/a/SqFke The bandwagon circlejerk QQ is strong
> [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ya4ZpMAm,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-05-22T13:25:15.454+0000) > > Wastes a ban on {{champion:64}} in Bronze > > http://imgur.com/a/SqFke > > The bandwagon circlejerk QQ is strong silver too... hell maybe even gold. I don't really worry about lee's unless they plat. Obviously that's not always the case but meh.... Like.... soooo many lees get a good start in like silver but then just become useless after 20 mins. Hell..... I try to play lee a lot and it happens to me all the time lmfao. Plus like the higher you go more people know how to deal with him until you get to a certain point where people can play him closer to correctly and then you rather just not play vs him. Like SKT1 Peanut.... fuck man never let him EVER get {{champion:64}} lol. But the average player... psh.... don't waste a ban on it.
Its Moose (EUW)
: Let's talk about experience
I didn't even know they made that change since I was taking a break from the game then but holy hell man jungle so annoying right now. I get jungle needed a nerf after last season but now its just frustrating. I feel obligated to gank 24/7 to keep up with enemy jungler as getting ahead in gold right now doesn't seem to matter like it did last season. Lanes snowball out of control if left unchecked and even when junglers get ahead they may not be able to carry like they could last season. I just really dislike the game right now. Hopefully it's a sign of moving on to new things in life but not going to lie current meta really is helping. After 1 or so games I just don't want to play anymore. I feel obligated to only play a few junglers and any other role is now a put off. Although I don't think that's Riots fault or problem I just don't feel like playing other lanes. Worst damn part is no one apparently wants to play tanks on my team so I been rocking {{champion:79}} jungle. And honestly he is the only champion I enjoy right now so that's more or less why I am playing him. I pretty much always need to go straight tank since no one else apparently gives a damn. But I like the option of being able to build some ap and still be tanky yet do lots of damage. But its like... in season 6 I could play one of those carry/brusier jungles and feel ok but now I don't like playing them because I feel I am too team reliant. I know they still reliable but they can't carry as hard as last season. Wish Riot would figure out a way to make jungler less strong than in season 6... but not so meta and gank dependent as they are this season. Hell... maybe I will never really enjoy jungling again until it is the strongest role. At least.... while I am in silver that is.
Rioter Comments
: There's also a difference between *me* knowing how to play around a champion and *my team* knowing how to play around a champion. It's part of why I view permabanning Kat as best practice in Silver, because even if I've got a stun and exhaust and don't feed her in lane she'll still snowball out of control. In Ranked, I've only won against a Kat 1/5 games, and I've won 1/1 games with them on my team. Really makes me wonder if I should just pick the snowballing menace up.
Current Kat....? Really? I never see her played and if someone plays her in silver although they might know her sorta they probably don't have the skills to carry.
: A Message to the Boards. A Bigger Issue than 10 Bans.
I just wish when they add it they would keep it the same it is now. I read a lot at the start and I get there is 2 sides but honestly the whole thing is kind of bs argument to begin with. You say high only bans strong meta champs, which is generally true. But pretending like there losing bans is silly. It's actually funny high elo players will argue with that. I see their point but honestly they would rather just not have extra bans then be guaranteed up to 10 super strong team meta picks? Yea..... I don't think they would care and would be happy for it. THE GAME HAS 140 CHAMPS NOW (I think..) 10 BANS IS STILL nothing to champ pool. So like Rubick said adding 10 bans to their current system makes sense. I am unfamiliar with who Myra is but honestly her post makes no sense. People ban meta champs because they don't want to face them not because of some vengeance against champs. Anyone who does that is dumb and doesn't happen like she thinks it does. If she waste 1 of her bans currently to ban out a champ just because of some vengeance again it then she's no smarter than anyone she is accusing of doing this. With her logic it wouldn't matter how many bans we had. Its literally is just moronic in the form Riot is presenting it in. The only thing I can think is they are trying to save time in champ select. But honestly... f that all they did was ruin a good ban system. OP you have only been playing this game 13 months. A good chunk of us have played since release. Enjoy spending time playing. Your right there are two sides, but 1 side makes a whole lot less sense than the other. And that is the side Riot decided to choose just like usual.
e46jmp (NA)
: Gank at level 2 to grab enemy flash, clear another camp, gank another lane, clear the rest of jungle red and blue then gank the other, then proceed from there. Farm is very important. I hard main jungle
> [{quoted}](name=e46jmp,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bMeGwRKi,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-05-19T17:10:23.865+0000) > > Gank at level 2 to grab enemy flash, clear another camp, gank another lane, clear the rest of jungle red and blue then gank the other, then proceed from there. Farm is very important. I hard main jungle I honestly hate this game. I just had my best jungle game in forever. Literally like 9-2-18 tank gragas at one point and my team is too fucking stupid to try and end. So then 1 shit fight where adcs get caught = {{champion:11}} kill entire team practically instantly. And to think people actually say he takes skill. Honestly i am so sick of garbage brained fucking morons getting free wins riding stupid fucktard elo trains with auto attack champs meanwhile I bust my fucking ass for my team and get nothign. most fucking bullshit part is I have not won a game in weeks WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKS where I got out jungled. Yet I can stomp the fucking shit out of enemy jungle and we still lose because 2 people want to be adcs and cant end a fucking game. I literally peeled for 40 fucking mins and no one wants to end but its low fucking elo and u have to do it all yourself. God fucking damn this game to hell.
nito14 (NA)
: rank system
My first game last night I got our first kill at 15 mins making the game 1-19......... this season is brutal
Rioter Comments
: "If everyone was warding, I wouldn't have to buy sightstone."
Honestly since most of us low elo and lots of us low low elo I rather just be safe and have wards and place wards than not. And that's what I hate when I see supports not buying sight stones or not warding. I get there is an art to effectively warding but fuck man.... low elo players aren't good enough to always have the right spots warded. Not saying people shouldn't try and ward effectively but I would rather have you place wards then hold onto them and doing nothing with them. I almost always have most wards placed on my team besides support (and sometimes I place more wards than them). Hell I will admit it I put dumb wards. Lots of times I laugh out loud and think "why the fuck did I just ward that". Hell... Last night I freaken dropped a Control ward in baron pit ON MY TEAMMATES CONTROL WARD LMFAO. Holy shit did I laugh. Fucking low elo brain. Can't believe my team didn't say shit I even lol'd in chat saying wow sorry. Guess they were just happy to get baron. But yooooo low elo hommies. You sick of getting dove 2v4 bot? You sick of your "dumb" jungler not taking dragons? Well.... and now hear me out..... IF YOU WARD AND LOOK AT MAP YOU WILL AVOID MORE OF THOSE GANKS AND YOUR JUNGLER WILL FEEL AND BE SAFER WHEN TRYING TO TAKE OBJECTIVES. Just saying :)
Blue Oni (NA)
: Flash Q is way more reliable
> [{quoted}](name=Blue Oni,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5MgjyF62,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-05-19T07:07:10.532+0000) > > Flash Q is way more reliable Yea... I just flash Q gg. http://plays.tv/video/57bb98127af96146ce/funny-double?from=user http://plays.tv/video/57bb98127af96146ce/funny-double?from=user
: Does anybody else work really hard at school
work not school but yea totally.... working suuupppeer hard right now nothing to see here.
Proxxii (EUNE)
: [BUG] Movement Prediction [This is a serious problem]
I have noticed this as well when playing and confused why it's happening.
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Rioter Comments
: If you're playing against plats, its because your mmr is around that level. This is a good thing. It means that your level of play is much higher than your rank. Keep your head up and push through it. Odds are if your mmr is 2 ranks higher than yours, there's a good chance you might jump a division.
its more likely his mmr is around low gold and so is that plat 5 player..... One thing I learned last season is don't look at player ranks. Play the game the best you can because honestly the way this system works shit gets real messy. I used to freak out in silver because one plat player was supposedly in game. Then you realize there is a reason your matched with them. Its not until almost everyone in a game is a certain level before you actually see a difference in game play. Hell I have more trouble playing in stupid ass silver 2 than in mid gold because unlike mid gold where players are low plat to low gold my teammates could be anywhere from mid gold to silver 5. Which really means from decent at the game to could be completely new and has no idea wtf their doing. And honestly.... it really sucks ass. When you have jungle {{champion:28}} you think "o sweet someone who plays eve and knows how to apply early pressure" but quickly realize o wait..... there in their placement matches and are completely new to the game just afk farming lanes and feeding the enemy. Its at that moment you realize what a joke this system is. Only option? Try to improve and put your head in the sand and ignore the hundreds of unevenly matched games you play waiting for that moment to play a 5v5 with people who see the game the same way you do. Sadly that is a very rare thing these days it seems.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dukues,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BgfBlb33,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-18T17:23:11.074+0000) > > "high enough to dodge that bullshit". Ding ding ding it's bullshit plain as day. That's all I am calling it. I hate that people try to dodge the conversation with rankings when really its still bullshit. I didn't say "bullshit". I said "bullet". YOU said "bullshit". > "high silver" well technically silver 2 should be considered that. I meant Silver 1. > In even matches losses don't feel that bad because it was competitive. But when you get your shit stomped in because one team is coordinated and the other isn't or stomp the enemy because 1 team is coordinated and the other is not you get a shit show of a game and not fun experience. And that is exactly where I am at. You'll have close games and stomps at any elo. It's GONNA happen. > Plus they reset ranks harder this year it seems, which I guess is good for plat players crying about boosted animals but other than that it has made ranked annoying as hell for those of us who have already wasted time climbing the ladder in prior seasons and now would rather just play a competitive game once in awhile with evenly matched teams but to get to that point you have to play hundreds of annoying boring games. I mean...people were complaining really bad about season 6, but I went from D5 to Plat 5 and I did like 4:6 in provisionals this year or so? Maybe even 3:7? I always fuck up my provisionals. xD Regardless, if you wanna quit, it's fine, just know that it's not some major conspiracy or something that's causing your issues.
Its not a conspiracy its just a fact of how the system works. Lmfao "not silver 2 silve 1" ok bud. Lmfao such an illogical statement. Not shit stomps happen. But this is literally stomps happening 9/10 GAMES! Not 1 in 6 or 7 like I saw last year. Hell I couldn't believe how many 10-10 at w/e time in game I saw in season 6. Honestly not sure last time I have seen even kill count even after 10 mins. I am not saying its impossible to climb. I am saying matchmaking is garbage making the climb much more painful than it needs to be. But we need lower queue times especially since Riot decided to sport 2 queues and now people neeeeeeeed their 1 role. I do like new champ select but it has created a new generation of LoL scrublings who can't do dick outside 1 role and 1 champ (at least more often). Spin the wheel how you want you still can't give me a straight face and say "90% of my games are even matches." And if you can you are one hell of a good liar.
: Well i've also had my fair share of being "fuck over" if you will. When I first started I was placed in S2 was like sweet I'm close to gold, time went on then dropped to silver 4, ended the season there, following year placed in B3 and spent nearly 300 games solely in this elo and yes the same things you experienced in Bronze I did too but I eventually climbed out because I knew I was better than where I needed to be and wasn't patient about it and that same season I hit Gold for the first time. This season I was placed In S4 and hadn't a lot of those same teammates but climbed out fast in silver this year because I knew and learned this on how to exploit my enemies mistakes. After I hit Gold I went from G5, G4 G3, G2, G3, G2, G1, G2, G1, G2, G3, G4, G5, G4, G3 (Failed promos to G2 8 times) G2, now back at G1 again. It's a tedious climb, not everyone is Faker level at league abd it will take time if you constantly have the attitude and right mind to continue everyone has been through games where they've had those feeders, afkers, "trolls" but it all apart of the game unfortunately.
I more or less just sick of spending so much time on League which is why I have been mad at start of the season. I should just not have done placements and fucked around on a smurf for 8 months then just did them in like sept, get placed gold 3-5 since that is how this "great" system works and not worried about climbing. But I didn't because I am dumb and now I have to waste time climbing through boring bullshit to get back to playing more evenly matched games I enjoy. (at least in my low elo eyes they seem more evenly matched). Or just quit and uninstall game like I did last night. Because in the end rank doesn't mean shit.
: Yeaaaah, when you play in lane, and your jungler is just utterly outmatched, getting invaded etc, so their jg can pressure all lanes and your jg just ends up feeding enemy laners/jg. Then you play jg to "take matters into your own hands" and have laners that feed multiple kills before your first clear is done. and then theres the games where your team just steamrolls and you could /dance at baron 1/2 the game and yall would still win. Honestly maybe 2/10 games I've played recently are actually close where either team could pull out the win, most are just one sided af tho.
This is exactly what ranked life is like for me right now and Y i quit jungling. And then you will even ping "yo btiches enemy jungle in ours please help" and your team will be busy afk farming. Then they immediately die to gank by enemy jungler even though you pinged him and have the jungler warded and then they get pissed saying "gg no ganks by jungle". LOOK AT THE FUCKING MINI MAP YOU SHITS!
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