Broporo (NA)
: It could absolutely be a firewall issue tbh. Sometimes certain firewalls or antivirus' can mess up the files while League is installing, so you *could* try running a reinstall again (yea I know, not the best answer =\ ) but this time make sure all firewalls are disabled while installing. Also, make sure the installer is run as admin.
> [{quoted}](name=Broporo,realm=NA,application-id=osqw6G4M,discussion-id=75wuhTm0,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2017-10-05T20:50:33.073+0000) > > It could absolutely be a firewall issue tbh. Sometimes certain firewalls or antivirus' can mess up the files while League is installing, so you *could* try running a reinstall again (yea I know, not the best answer =\ ) but this time make sure all firewalls are disabled while installing. Also, make sure the installer is run as admin. Happened again. Literally every patch some file miraculously comes up missing. Have tried Riot support suggestions and nothing been a perma fix. Really sick of reinstalling the game every 6ish days. Don't know what to do about it anymore.
: "But now the only thing teams try to do is get a 4-5 an dive bot" -------- "no one wants to play aggressive for fear of messing up" Something doesn't add up there.
Originally thought you were talking to me but now see what you were replying to, which to be honest I was confused by that persons comment as well. What I was saying however poorly is the only real early game risk teams are willing to take is diving bot turret 4 or 5 man. Bot laners don't want to trade in fear of getting too low. Junglers once in a great while trying to gank bot but usually mid joins as well if not tp from top. But teams know enemy looking at that as well so usually nothing ends up happening anymore until like 15-20 mins into the game when players have a couple items and teams are willing to exit the laning phase. Last year there was more 2 or 3 man ganking with lane phase ending sooner than waiting for 15-20 min mark.Part is probably teams getting better and managing vision and their play better. But most games also have peel supports for ardent censor and keeping adc alive while having tank junglers who are not the best for applying pressure early game.
: Since NA is actually looking the most respectable I've ever seen them look, I am more into this worlds than any other and I've watched since s3.
> [{quoted}](name=Meteor Driz,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=gE8UXgnw,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-10-09T21:43:51.312+0000) > > Since NA is actually looking the most respectable I've ever seen them look, I am more into this worlds than any other and I've watched since s3. Watching them last year they really struggled in the mid/late game and look better at it this year. Going to be a tough week 2 though hope they can stay strong!
Hellmet (NA)
: Only thing sucking this year is the games starting at 2am. It's a bit of an adventure trying to watch the games without getting hit by spoilers.
> [{quoted}](name=Hellmet,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=gE8UXgnw,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-10-10T03:42:48.221+0000) > > Only thing sucking this year is the games starting at 2am. It's a bit of an adventure trying to watch the games without getting hit by spoilers. True. I decided I am done trying to watch them early except maybe one day this weekend. It just too hard to plan your day around it and I am sick of being tired all day lol. I already drink a lot of caffeine don't need another reason. I am just going to watch the vods later when I have time. It does suck though because I like looking at League's reddit but can't really without fear of some spoilers. It also fun seeing the post game discussions right after a game but they can still be checked out later and it's still fine/fun to read.
: So you would prefer the game to be basically over by ten minutes?
> [{quoted}](name=Mazariamonti,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=gE8UXgnw,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2017-10-10T01:50:38.181+0000) > > So you would prefer the game to be basically over by ten minutes? Not that but more action going on. When assasins/bruisers are more viable players look to setup earlier picks. But now the only thing teams try to do for the most part is get a 4 - 5 man dive bot to take first turret really quickly and pickup some kills. And since that is a viable threat no one wants to play aggressive for fear of messing up and facing a large disadvantage.
Rioter Comments
: Season 7 & The Balance Team has been a huge fucking disappointment.
Funniest part is Riot has all these changes to make LCS games more exciting yet I find this worlds a lot more boring that last worlds even with NA doing fairly well in week 1. Like yea... that GAM vs Fnatic first game was super exciting but I never realized how actually great it was until watching the next 3 days. Like... the games this year are good but not until the 20 minute + mark. I have literally starting watching the vods for the last 2 days and I just skip to 15 min mark and most the time there is not even a kill yet..... lmfao. Like I get it... their pros, games are slow sometimes. But it wasn't like this in season 6. As pumped as I was to watch worlds this year I am already kind of bored of it. I plan on watching games again this week but feel no point in trying to watch them live like a did 2 days last week. Just going to watch vods and skip the talk + 15 mins (at least in most games) because you literally miss nothing. Same champs..... same bots... and since every playing scaling no one does anything. No point in playing the typical carry junglers because jungle a joke right now. So put them on glorified tanks and wait for late game. No one wants to make mistakes because 1 mistake = losing at least 1 turret and probably more because of how weak turrets are + first turret gold. Solo queue is a stomp and mess meanwhile changes made to pros backfired and made those games even more boring than normal lmfao. Maybe season 8 will be fun although I have my doubts currently. Season 7 was my least favorite season in recent memory. So happy it finally almost over.
Kloqdq (NA)
: I need to know what all my grinding in 3v3 gets me ;-;
> [{quoted}](name=Kloqdq,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wqnhhZih,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-10-06T14:13:28.904+0000) > > I need to know what all my grinding in 3v3 gets me ;-; Same lol. I am pretty sure it just victorious skin plus gold+ borders in 3v3 games. At least, that is how it was in the past. I don't think it counts for the double rewards for getting gold+ in multiple queues, at least based on the announcement at the star of the season. Which is really what I want Riot to confirm. I really dislike flex queue, but if the reward for getting gold+ in both solo and flex is cool I will grind it out. And if flex 3v3 fits into this then I want to know as I am silver 1 81ish lp in 3v3 lol and want to know if there any reason to reach gold in it besides just 3v3 gold border.
Broporo (NA)
: It could absolutely be a firewall issue tbh. Sometimes certain firewalls or antivirus' can mess up the files while League is installing, so you *could* try running a reinstall again (yea I know, not the best answer =\ ) but this time make sure all firewalls are disabled while installing. Also, make sure the installer is run as admin.
I appreciate the help I will keep messing with it. I am pretty sure last time I didn't install as admin like I thought I did. This time I made sure to not auto startup League and manually made sure to install as admin. Hope it stays fixed this time, but if not the hunt will continue. Thanks again for the follow up {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Dukues,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GAH6qaZg,comment-id=0006000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-05T15:10:51.138+0000) > > I am literally just talking about placements lmfao. What you are describing is a whole new system which wouldnt make sense. Its literally 10 shitty games...... it wouldnt change shit except put bronze players in bronze quicker and have them quit ruining mid silver games more often. Lower starting mmr, quicker bronze kids in bronze, better playres stomp a couple games then play in elo they would anyways. Get same placements they would have meanwhile bronze 5 new player gets bronze 5 instead of sivler 5 after going 0-10 in placements and ruining like 50 games So you don't do anything to correct for the changing of the starting point That literally makes everything worse. You effectively are compressing all of bronze into B5. You cannot place in silver 5 going 0-10 on a fresh account. Your entire argument is based on a false premise. That's going to get you placed in low bronze.
I see players go 1-9 0-10 all the time and get silver or like bronze 1. Hell I have even tried to get bronze 5 in the past and best I could get is bronze 3 on a new account. I don't know why you keep bringing up the starting point thing I have addressed it twice lmfao. Not everyone is going to end up in bronze 5. Literally just more players than 0. More in the mid bronze range than silver range. And this would make more sense really instead of reducing the number of players in bronze Riot should be increasing the number. Bronze is where inexperienced players should play. Silver is way more overcrowded than bronze no idea why Riot pretending it the other way. Honestly it so damn simple I am done explaining it. Don't see why it hard to understand right now new accounts start with an mmr of 50% player base and I am saying start at like 70% mark which is like bronze 1 instead of mid silver. Then play the games out but have placement games for new accounts a little more impact. So like you start in bronze 1 mmr game you win you do like silver 3 mmr win, silver 1, etc. Eventually up to gold or hell make it if you win like 4 in a row you playing mid gold players idk. And honestly fuck it they really need to add more variables than just win loss to decipher smurfs. But fuck it it really doesn't hurt to place players lower than actual skill in this system since its a literal ladder and players are expected to climb. Like you sitting here talking about how shitty it is to start people in bronze meanwhile I was gold 3 last season and got placed bronze 1. So don't tell me people shouldn't have to fucking climb. Most new players will be bronze or barley silver skill so it makes sense for them to start bronze 3-5 and climb a little. And smurfs well.. if they have to climb another 2 divisions or w/e it doesn't matter because they smurfing and plan on climbing anyways. So really.... only people who suffer from my idea are players who in the past were overranked and honestly it could still happen. But it fixes a lot of uneven matches and I would trade that shit in a heartbeat.
Broporo (NA)
: The reason you're getting those dll and yaml errors is that the files weren't properly downloaded or installed. There might have been a hiccup in your connection while downloading them that caused it. Downloading someone else's working yaml file helped since theirs was working properly to begin with. The best way to make sure this gets fixed is usually a reinstall while making sure to run the installation as admin.
> [{quoted}](name=Broporo,realm=NA,application-id=osqw6G4M,discussion-id=75wuhTm0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-28T01:09:54.770+0000) > > The reason you're getting those dll and yaml errors is that the files weren't properly downloaded or installed. There might have been a hiccup in your connection while downloading them that caused it. Downloading someone else's working yaml file helped since theirs was working properly to begin with. > > The best way to make sure this gets fixed is usually a reinstall while making sure to run the installation as admin. Hey so 6-8 days after reinstalling League same errors popping up again. This getting really frustrating mainly because I have no idea why after all of these years suddenly this is happening. Could it be a Windows/Firewall issue. And if so any guidelines on how to find out? Really don't feel like reinstalling League every week.....
: > [{quoted}](name=Dukues,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GAH6qaZg,comment-id=00060000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-05T13:46:54.270+0000) > > Dude there system is terrible at deciding new player starting mmr wtf you smoking? My solution legit is better than their current system. Handicap new acconts starting mmr at lower than 50%, increase effect of wins/losses. Boom, pretty much same results for smurfs/good players where they still make it to gold or high silver meanwhile new players get to bronze faster and then actually place bronze 4 or 5 instead of silver 5. Win fucking win for everyone. You can't read. I specifically mentioned the exact solution you want and pointed out the very significant downside to it yet you did not address it. Saying something is so doesn't make it so. So first of all you cannot increase the effect of losses to match the increase for wins as all that will do is add more variability and noise. So you just increase the effect of wins, which will skew the mean upwards from the starting mmr. Now problem solved? Nope - there's still promos. And because you've greatly increased gains from wins you likely won't be facing anyone near your ranking for promos. With the way things are currently set up I've managed to get myself matched against silver 2/3 players in promos to S5. Having to do that feels REALLY BAD. By the way, riot at the moment does give increased mmr gains/losses for a certain period after you start playing ranked for the season. Notice that the average does not move from the starting mmr.
I am literally just talking about placements lmfao. What you are describing is a whole new system which wouldnt make sense. Its literally 10 shitty games...... it wouldnt change shit except put bronze players in bronze quicker and have them quit ruining mid silver games more often. Lower starting mmr, quicker bronze kids in bronze, better playres stomp a couple games then play in elo they would anyways. Get same placements they would have meanwhile bronze 5 new player gets bronze 5 instead of sivler 5 after going 0-10 in placements and ruining like 50 games
: What if I have diamond level mechanics but bronze game level knowledge?
> [{quoted}](name=Fate Fire,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IygAcyYw,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-10-04T23:10:48.024+0000) > > What if I have diamond level mechanics but bronze game level knowledge? Silver 5 then I guess lullllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
: > [{quoted}](name=Paleo Electro,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GAH6qaZg,comment-id=000f0000,timestamp=2017-10-04T16:08:03.983+0000) > > You know, this is another thing I'd like to point out.....high Bronze isn't bad at all. > > Am I saying that we can compete with gold, and plat players? No, not at all. But I hear all these people say that Bronze players simply don't understand the game, they build incorrectly, etc., etc. Yet here I am, seeing all of that happen maybe once or twice every other game. The majority of players do build correctly, they do understand the game, and they play to the best of their ability. > > Do we make mistakes? Absolutely. I can't even count how many failed flashes, smites, ganks, and initiations I've seen. People still die to jungle camps (I've done it myself), teams still get wiped at Baron, etc., etc. > > But saying that *all* of Bronze players don't understand the game, and is just bad at it is simply not true. Actually, high bronze is really bad. Even if they've learned how to build, the decision-making is a much bigger problem. It's not even fail flash/smite, which is just a mechanical issue. People in high bronze have a fundamental lack of understanding of the gameflow of league legends. I've played with bronze friends before. There's a big difference between b4 and b2, b2 and s4, s4 and s2, s2 and g4, g4 and g2, etc. But none of these players are "good." They're just different degrees of badness. Understanding when to go in, how to ward for ganks (and then actually respond when those wards spot something), where and when to rotate, how to trade in lane, when to disengage, etc. All of these things are skills that bronze players simply do not have. Silver players have started to build on these skills, but they're still very rough. Even in gold, these skills have improved but are still fundamentally flawed, then a lot of people say the main difference between gold and plat is mechanics. Basically, if you think your current tier of play "isn't that bad," it means you don't belong any more than 2 divisions higher, at least until you learn more about the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Leaf of the lake,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GAH6qaZg,comment-id=000f00000001,timestamp=2017-10-04T16:57:49.109+0000) > > Actually, high bronze is really bad. Even if they've learned how to build, the decision-making is a much bigger problem. It's not even fail flash/smite, which is just a mechanical issue. People in high bronze have a fundamental lack of understanding of the gameflow of league legends. I've played with bronze friends before. There's a big difference between b4 and b2, b2 and s4, s4 and s2, s2 and g4, g4 and g2, etc. But none of these players are "good." They're just different degrees of badness. Understanding when to go in, how to ward for ganks (and then actually respond when those wards spot something), where and when to rotate, how to trade in lane, when to disengage, etc. All of these things are skills that bronze players simply do not have. Silver players have started to build on these skills, but they're still very rough. Even in gold, these skills have improved but are still fundamentally flawed, then a lot of people say the main difference between gold and plat is mechanics. > > Basically, if you think your current tier of play "isn't that bad," it means you don't belong any more than 2 divisions higher, at least until you learn more about the game. This is 100% true.
: > [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GAH6qaZg,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-10-04T14:43:13.465+0000) > > Starting new players in Bronze is fine. But automatically boosting those in Bronze to Silver is an absolute mistake. > > Why exactly is he trying to reward players who cannot/won't climb the ladder? The issue is that Bronze is just littered with people who intentionally feed, afks, plat and diamond smurfs, genuine bad players, people who flame that it makes it almost impossible for those who want to climb. If they deserve to stay silver they will otherwise they'll fall back to bronze. A better idea would be to flush the MMR, force out smurfs and boosters, and try to make it a better system. Doesn't really matter either way as ranked is just a joke in NA. The mentality of the entire region is "why bother trying when someone else is better" that it gives more reason to bring others down than trying to raise them up. Along with that is the egomania that "I'm better than everyone else" which is seen from Bronze to Diamond, all this will do is give even more reason to troll in the lower ranks and make it even more impossible to climb out of Bronze. Even if you improve as a player, it doesn't matter when four other people can dictate a win or loss. Edit; Because I don't want to make it seem like it's always your team's fault you're stuck; people have bad days and bad games. I've thrown just as many games due to bad calls as has my team.
Just because your hard stuck silver 5 doesn't mean ranked in NA is a joke lmfao. Fucking get good kid. And yes I can say that even as gold 4. I know I suck compared to pros, but gold 3-4 is my average skill level aka 20%-25% of the player base. Doesn't matter wtf u call it that is the rank I will contently hit. Unless I get rusty or improve that is my average skill level. Just like yours is silver 5 and w/e % of the player population is. I find silver 5 a joke and I am legitimately shit at this game lol.
: > [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GAH6qaZg,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-10-04T14:43:13.465+0000) > > Starting new players in Bronze is fine. But automatically boosting those in Bronze to Silver is an absolute mistake. > > Why exactly is he trying to reward players who cannot/won't climb the ladder? Some of us have been trying to get out Bronze for years. We've done everything we could to try and get out, but nothing seems to work. We follow the meta to a T, we main a champion, get good with them, try our best to lead our teams, make the right calls, whatever. I'm not saying that I deserve anything higher than high silver, in fact, I've always felt I've played at low to mid silver level......but I can't get there to prove it, and get better than that level! Several people out there say "If you can't get out of a certain rank, than you probably deserve to be there." In all honesty, I disagree completely. Half of the population in Bronze 1 and 2 most likely can play in Silver 4 or 5 with no one even noticing a difference. I once dropped to Bronze 3 after a long losing streak, and the difference in gameplay was night and day. I went from people who understood the game, and would play the game to best of their ability, to utter and complete nonsense. Needless to say, I got out of Bronze 3 pretty damn quick, and went right back to where I am now. So, I agree with this change. Either do this, or make a new bracket under Bronze.
> [{quoted}](name=Paleo Electro,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GAH6qaZg,comment-id=00080001,timestamp=2017-10-04T15:46:08.523+0000) > > Some of us have been trying to get out Bronze for years. We've done everything we could to try and get out, but nothing seems to work. We follow the meta to a T, we main a champion, get good with them, try our best to lead our teams, make the right calls, whatever. > > I'm not saying that I deserve anything higher than high silver, in fact, I've always felt I've played at low to mid silver level......but I can't get there to prove it, and get better than that level! Several people out there say "If you can't get out of a certain rank, than you probably deserve to be there." In all honesty, I disagree completely. Half of the population in Bronze 1 and 2 most likely can play in Silver 4 or 5 with no one even noticing a difference. I once dropped to Bronze 3 after a long losing streak, and the difference in gameplay was night and day. I went from people who understood the game, and would play the game to best of their ability, to utter and complete nonsense. Needless to say, I got out of Bronze 3 pretty damn quick, and went right back to where I am now. > > So, I agree with this change. Either do this, or make a new bracket under Bronze. DUDE. If you can't get out of bronze your not even lower silver LMFAO. It's legit easy as fuck to get out of bronze unless you are a bronze level player. once you accept that you can work on improving. Before I could even get past silver 4 I could easily get out of bronze. Before I ever hit gold I would rank multiple accounts out of bronze. And now that I am gold level I consistently rank accounts to gold. If you play at average skill level of w/e rank then you will eventually get there no matter what. If not, then you wont. It's literally that simple. This system is based on playing at least a couple hundred games. One you have played say 200+ you should be around your actual average skill rank. And even then that might not be enough games.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dukues,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GAH6qaZg,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2017-10-04T17:50:21.060+0000) > > But that is literally because their placement system is shit and new account starting mmr is waaaaaaaaaayy too high. I have complained about this for 3 seasons and get smacked with downvotes. If they literally just fucking lowered new starting account mmr from like silver 2-3 to bronze 1 placements would end up a lot better. Splitting out players new to ranked != lowering the starting MMR. When Riot defines the starting MMR, that's where they define where the average player should fall. If you average a 50% win rate then you should neither climb nor fall. If you drop the starting MMR then the average player comes in at B5 instead of S5. That only makes the problem worse. Giving new players a "climbing boost" to skew the average off of the start point might seem like a good fix, but that creates the issue where players wind up with promo games against players with the higher rankings and that is demoralizing. There isn't really a good way to "solve" the issue of new players in ranked; in fact there is a very strong argument for Riot's current system: it is the fastest way for the matchmaking algorithm to determine a good rating for a new player.
Dude there system is terrible at deciding new player starting mmr wtf you smoking? My solution legit is better than their current system. Handicap new acconts starting mmr at lower than 50%, increase effect of wins/losses. Boom, pretty much same results for smurfs/good players where they still make it to gold or high silver meanwhile new players get to bronze faster and then actually place bronze 4 or 5 instead of silver 5. Win fucking win for everyone.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=IRyzeForNidalee,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GAH6qaZg,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-10-04T14:15:02.072+0000) > > The fuck? That's not how a ranking system is supposed to work... it's supposed to fucking _rank_ you, it isn't an mmorpg where you move up even if you're terrible. There at least is some logic to splitting out players new to ranked from those who have a solid placement - If your MMR is around the S5/B1 level you will wind up seeing new ranked players that either carry hard or feed their asses off (and it really tends to be the latter). It can be very demoralizing when you're paying with a guy who clearly shouldn't be matched at this level.
> [{quoted}](name=notFREEfood,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GAH6qaZg,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2017-10-04T14:41:56.117+0000) > > There at least is some logic to splitting out players new to ranked from those who have a solid placement - If your MMR is around the S5/B1 level you will wind up seeing new ranked players that either carry hard or feed their asses off (and it really tends to be the latter). It can be very demoralizing when you're paying with a guy who clearly shouldn't be matched at this level. But that is literally because their placement system is shit and new account starting mmr is waaaaaaaaaayy too high. I have complained about this for 3 seasons and get smacked with downvotes. If they literally just fucking lowered new starting account mmr from like silver 2-3 to bronze 1 placements would end up a lot better.
WizZarD (EUNE)
: Some Bronze Players will be Automatically Transferred to Silver
This is honestly Riot's dumbest idea yet. Players are bronze for a reason. Moving them to silver a tier which literally already has HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS MORE PLAYERS than bronze and is already a shit show will now be just be a beyond bigger shit show. There is no way this can be true. And if it is LMFAO way to super drop the ball Riot. Didn't Ghostcrawler ruin WoW. Idk.... people bitch about him but the game is like super kid friendly now and think he started that process. Moving players from bronze to silver changes nothing except making a few bronze kids feel less shitty about bronze I guess meanwhile making silver even more of a shit show to climb than it already is. Tilted even just reading this. Hope this is satire because it's the dumbest idea I have heard in a long time. Looked 3 times and not the onion maybe an games satire site I am unaware about?
: Hes fun but as a zac Main I really Miss the ult. Bouncing around Just was so fun
Yea I believe that.
Rioter Comments
yeulx (NA)
: yeah cs is a huge factor in S ranks.. and it sucks that S ranks are such a pain to get due to minor things like that
> [{quoted}](name=yeulx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lYrGHU85,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-04T02:23:08.598+0000) > > yeah cs is a huge factor in S ranks.. and it sucks that S ranks are such a pain to get due to minor things like that Funniest part is I won 2 more games after that as zac. One was a S with 5-1-27 141 cs (4/cs min) and the other S- 3-2-9 57 cs (3.2 cs/min). So literally 1/5th the kills, double deaths, less assists, exact same cs/min as my 15-1-17 game yet it's a S- game and the other A+. One was 30 mins other was 17 mins. Like..... it just sucks they going to have a "mastery" system when it completely fucks over certain roles compared to others and proposes a selfish play style when team work is more important. Especially this season since with snowball and adcs. Edit: And of course it won't ever change because people are sheep and quit bringing it to light. I gave up even given a shit about mastery personally I just try to bring it up once in awhile to make a point but people just ignore it.
: All those Ads hurt my eyes {{sticker:sg-zephyr}}
Yea I suck at cropping and posting images :(
yeulx (NA)
: nah i just blame that one death.. your suppose to be the immortal blob never die D:< {{sticker:sg-shisa}}
> [{quoted}](name=yeulx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lYrGHU85,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-10-04T01:17:02.922+0000) > > nah i just blame that one death.. your suppose to be the immortal blob never die D:&lt; {{sticker:sg-shisa}} Was my first game playing new {{champion:154}} Just played another of course got an S... not because I did any better just because of CS LOL. But yea... he fun as fuck
: Remember that mastery grades are relative to other players on that champ in that role, rather than something riot is actually determining cutoffs for. If you're not getting a grade, it just means that enough other players are putting out performances that are better. Occasionally this can be hard to believe when you have fantastic statistics in some areas, but remember theres a lot more to grades than just your kda/cs.
Your right. Every {{champion:154}} I see has 15 kills 1 death and 17 assists and and does most damage in game. Wtf was I thinking...................... FACE IT. Riot's system is shit. I am sure 40cs more would really have made me so much better that game. It's retarded. I got an S game before with sej with shit stats compared but because 5.2cs/min instead of 3/8 when it literally made no difference in the game. Its pathetic. I hate people defend them on this. But its probably all support mains who love getting S+ every game with 20 assits and doing nothing else.
: Its your farm, It is sub-par compared to everyone else in that game.
The thing is that makes no sense. One its per average {{champion:154}} not people in a game. Second..... kills = gold = cs. If I get 120 cs I get S+ but that's a little fucking pointless when I have same amount of gold because of so many kills/assists. Face it... Riot's system is fucking shit.
Rioter Comments
Wanfear (NA)
: "You have six days to get a group of 5 together and troll with all melee"
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: Don't know what to do. Some advice please.
Sounds like you worrying about a lot. I would say just take a deep break and chill out a bit. Now.. I am sorry because Riot's system for new accounts is really bad so you are definitely going to have some tough games. But hey... we all do. To be honest Riot bots are really bad so I wouldn't really take those games into consideration. I would start playing pvp as soon as you can and just try your best. Don't flame teammates, intentionally feed (like just running down mid) or go afk and you won't get in trouble. Eventually you will get better and and learn more but either way you need to play pvp to learn. Bots just won't help you that much compared to other people. Bots are so damn predictable it's really tragic. Helpful tip. If anyone is being mean to you mute them. There are a couple ways to do it but what I do is just hit Tab and then go over to the right side of their name. There are different icons. One mutes the player's chat, one mute's pings, and one does.... well I forget lol. You can mute enemy team as well. Hell google it, there different ways to do chat than I know I just usually tab in game and mute who I want. Reading guides is helpful but reality is you just need time played and experience right now. Eventually you will get better at the basics and can build off that. But right now being so new I think you still on a lot of the basics. So cut yourself some slack, jump into pvp and try to have some fun. Try to learn but realize you won't learn it all in a day, a week, a month. Shit's always changing so we all still always learning anyways. But yea, mute the jerks, don't be a jerk, afk or, intentionally feed and you won't get in trouble and you will get better at the game and start having more fun playing it.
Rioter Comments
: Can someone explain to me this whole attitude of "flex isn't ranked"
Its literally a line you can see. 1. Placements were fucked and players misplaced ranks. 2. This leads to beyond shit match making. 3. Since it replaced dynamic queue, it is now dynamic queue. I.e boost queue in players eyes. 4. Since solo/duo thought of as more serious, people take flex queue as a way to mess around with friends or try different roles. 5. All in all leads to lopsided boring ass matches 6. Joke queue. If you look at your last games your losses were basically you playing verse higher solo queue players but have "similar" flex queue rank. Then your last win was you literally having a diamond 5 player as your adc verse silver/gold players. Hence. JOKE QUEUE.
Eronate (EUNE)
: Towers have a bigger impact on snowballing than you think
Towers fall down so damn easy it's ridiculous. Their focus is shit and there damage is also shit. Was really fun yesterday being tower dove over & over by a {{champion:240}} in mid. Ults in takes 3 turret shots doesn't matter because after I am dead and he turns around he just gets off his mount and losses tower aggro....... like yup..... classy out play man. Really happy instead of fixing this Riot just makes more champs this way. {{champion:105}} was annoying enough but you also have {{champion:60}} now {{champion:240}} and maybe others? I get its not all champs but even then.... towers tickle after someone has some health and like part of an armor item. Tanks after 1-2 items can tank many shots without fear.
Rioter Comments
: Genuinely, why does anyone give a shit about Tyler1?
Just because you don't like a player or streamer doesn't mean other people don't I feel like you have not watched him lately so this entire post is pointless. The dude is actually pretty chill and hilarious. But hey... just brainless sheep posting about shit they have no idea about.
: You: "Why am I not being honored" Everyone: "Well you don't seem like you were very nice to your team in that match." You: "Sheeple, propaganda, Support Mains, premades, rito is out to get me" I've been rewarded with every single honor reward in the entire history of League of Legends and I've been playing for over 8 years without ever getting even a warning for bad behavior. if I don't have enough credibility for you to listen to me about what you're doing wrong, then nobody does. You have a lot of growing to do before you're ready to be an honorable summoner and that's just the end of the discussion, really. {{sticker:sg-lux-2}} Best of luck to you and your "Gain honor through flaming my team" strategy.
I mean... once again I don't give a shit about honor or being an honorable summoner. I know how to and am most of the time. Just think this whole system is silly and doesn't actually reward people for being honorable. It's cool your so passionate about being a honorable player but I could honestly care less. I have also never been punished and received many honor rewards as well. Only thing I really got out of this whole conversation is I am done honoring teammates. I will never achieve honor 5 because pretty sure you have to honor people to get more points but meh.... just don't care to "honor" people when I don't really feel it's deserved. It's fine. I still think players are sheep because how many games do people think "omg I really need to honor this person" or is it just more "opp honor screen popped up.... guess I can honor a teammate". LUL! Feel free to join others and have a circle jerk around being honor 5 or whatever people are. As if a vast majority of the player population cares. I will start honoring people again when honorable opponent is reintroduced.
: Man with an attitude like that it is really no wonder why I'm sitting with all 5 honor icons and honor 5 that barely took me 2 weeks to earn and you're the one making "Why am I not honored for flaming my team" threads. I'm fun to play with and I try to make sure everyone is having a good time. Even the enemy. I've had people tell me that I'm why they want Honorable Opponent back. You were rude and disrespectful to your team and when almost 100% of the comments on your "I don't understand why I didn't get honored" thread indicate that your attitude and behavior are not acceptable you just start ranting about "people are sheep" like some conspiracy is stopping you from getting honor. Friend, YOU are the common thread here. Nobody is out to get you, you just have a bad attitude and people are telling you that when they don't honor you. I'm very, very done trying to help you understand what you've done wrong because you don't want to hear it. {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
The only thing worse than support mains commenting about honor and mastery system is people commenting about ranked who don't even play ranked. They are the true clueless ones.
: Man with an attitude like that it is really no wonder why I'm sitting with all 5 honor icons and honor 5 that barely took me 2 weeks to earn and you're the one making "Why am I not honored for flaming my team" threads. I'm fun to play with and I try to make sure everyone is having a good time. Even the enemy. I've had people tell me that I'm why they want Honorable Opponent back. You were rude and disrespectful to your team and when almost 100% of the comments on your "I don't understand why I didn't get honored" thread indicate that your attitude and behavior are not acceptable you just start ranting about "people are sheep" like some conspiracy is stopping you from getting honor. Friend, YOU are the common thread here. Nobody is out to get you, you just have a bad attitude and people are telling you that when they don't honor you. I'm very, very done trying to help you understand what you've done wrong because you don't want to hear it. {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
O no! Support main feelings hurt. Lol sorry to break this to you man but no one cares your honor 5 and people who do have small brains. Besides.... supports always get honored. Hell... I used to main support... never said shit because I knew I needed team to carry while I saved their asses. We get it.... easy assssssss role cool story. Rude is disrespectful to team. Well no.... 1 player but ok. Tell me where did you learn 1=4? Interesting math you doing there. Ugg worst part of posts like this is people get all caught up following stupid things. Never said I wanted honor 5 or anything is stopping me. People just assume that because they think honor 5 means something. Since we got an auto loss just thought it would have been nice for 1 person on team to be like "you know what man gg you tried". But na.... It's w/e back when first honor system came out people honored everyone every game. Then they stopped because everyone realized it was dumb. Now you can only honor 1 person... which lets face it doesn't make sense when you are a "team". Apparently Riot does the same math as you where 1=4 or 5. But hey... check out League Reddit and see what a shit storm Riot employee has caused on there lmfao. The sheep part actually makes so much sense after looking at comments. People think so black and white on the internet and in the world it's damn ridiculous. All I been saying is people should think for themselves.
: You weren't acting honorable, thus received no honor. Working as intended.
> [{quoted}](name=Flacid Leviathan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yu7AndUa,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-09-29T17:57:30.565+0000) > > You weren&#x27;t acting honorable, thus received no honor. Working as intended. Are you sure? What is the meaning of honor? I have a feeling people interpret it differently. Just because you believe I didn't act honorable doesn't mean others wouldn't. Yea I got no honor that game but that's one game, and literally joke queue where people play with friends. Friends honor friends regardless of how well they did. Plus as I said before to you or someone else people honor much less often when they lose compared to when they win. But yea... your right.... this system totally acts perfectly. No flaws at all. SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
MysterQ (NA)
: I am not the one saying you didn't try. I was simply saying if you come around calling it joke-queue, I can understand why people say you are a jerk.
well how many players get LCS offers because of their rank in flex queue????? None????? hmmm.... When people look at players ranks what do they look at? Solo queue rank or Flex queue? O yea..... solo/duo rank. So why exactly is flex queue not a joke?
: Honor system is about communication and personality, it's not there to give a gold star to someone who carried. /thread
That's why 9/10 games people just honor who carried the game. You can act naive but it's pretty damn obvious that's how it works. Its also pretty damn Obvious people honor much less often when they lose compared to when they win. They should just remove honor from the title of the system. Why d
: When deciding to honor or not honor somebody you have only one game with them to make that choice. I don't honor people who flame, you flamed, case open and shut. Almost everyone that has responded shares my opinion that you did not make the game more fun for your team, so maybe you should reevaluate your stance on what is and is not honorable behavior. Or you could just throw around some more sarcastic comments about how propaganda is effective and call everyone in the thread sheep so you don't have to reflect on your actions.
I mean the whole sheep thing is pretty true. I can't even respond to how stupid your comment about "I don't honor people who flame". Like... if you actually thought about that comment for a second you would realize how dumb you are. Go back to having League on other people on the internet telling you how to run your life man. It won't get you anywhere but its an option many people choose today.
idonthitq (EUNE)
: idk if i should quit this game or not
Hey so I should have totally looked at your profile before my first comment. Couple things: 1. Your profile looks new. That's ok, no problem, lots to learn in this game. For starters, match making can be a little fucked especially in norms. You may just be playing better players than yourself. No reason to sweat though, look at as an opportunity to improve verse better players. 2. Your recent jungle games look to mostly be losses. And for good reason your farm is extremely low. So like... I can't explain how to jungle or farm in just a couple sentences you really just need to check out guides. And well, even after 7+ years of playing this game I am still learning too. Actually, I still have much to learn. B.) But, what I do know is if your not ganking you should be farming. It is true right now with jungle catch up xp that ganking and trying to get your lanes ahead is a good strategy. But that doesn't mean you can completely neglect farming. You need farm to get xp and more importantly gold. Plus based on your k/d/a (saw lee games of going 1-10 with like 1 cs/min) it looks like you just gank way too much. It takes time but you have to learn when to gank and when to farm and wait. 3. Looks like you do better in top lane. Farm still an issue but it's better. But hell.. I look at my last games and my farm low too. Generally always worth improving on. Other than farm you have to learn matchups, when to trade when no to trade, when to rotate, when to push, when to back, when to fight for a turret, when to give up a turret, when and how to focus objectives, etc. etc. etc. Like I said, lots to learn and I think you are just scratching the surface. League is an incredibly fun game, but it takes A LOT of time to learn and can be a very frustrating game. It's just not for everyone. If you dislike it then I would quit, but if you enjoy it then I would start googling guides, watching streams, and slowly start trying to improve. One day you will look back and think "damn I was bad" but you will see the game in a whole new way. There will be new challenges, but once used to seem so bad suddenly won't. We all look back on our past seasons and think "damn if only I knew then what I knew now". Fuck man I played like 1000 normal games before I ever touched ranked in season 2 and I thought I was the shit. Then I got placed in bronze and couldn't get out. Was a huge eye opener for me. Even now after 7 years and thousands of hours played I can only hit like mid gold on the ladder. But my style has always been to spam games and neglect learning/improving.
idonthitq (EUNE)
: idk if i should quit this game or not
If you not having fun then no point in playing. I didn't look at your profile but reality is we all can do better. I suggest just playing some normal games and playing champs you think would be fun and just trying to play your best and not worry about winning or losing just trying to improve and have fun on that champ. Yea stomps suck, but there should also be games where your team stomps the enemy. And when you get better, games get easier until you play better opponents. Then it starts all over again.
MysterQ (NA)
: Your first three paragraphs say otherwise, despite your scoreline. Like if you want us to believe you, you called it jokequeue, chilling, chatting, jamming. Regardless of you doing well it is hard to say you were trying.
Apparently listening to music makes you not serious at the game? Strange never knew that thanks for that helpful tip. Your response is so damn hypocritical man. I knew I would get shit for this post but at least I am real. You act like everything is black or white. 0% or 100%. And that's what is so frustrating about people especially on the internet. Do none of you go outside and experience the real world? Not everything is black or white, 0% or 100%. Far from it actually. Correct, I am not going to play my main role in this queue because at my current rank I don't have to and can still rank up. It's more fun for me to play off roles and champs I don't play as much. That doesn't mean I don't try in game, just not on my main champs/role. I have played this game forever.... and my average skill level played at is around mid gold. So I know, In roughly all roles I play consistently around this level. I also know any "higher" ranking player I play will generally be playing an off role because they would be a lower rank than solo queue and don't care as much. Doesn't mean they won't try, just not playing best role/champion. This can all be summed up because flex queue is literally a joke. I see that's all you play so you wouldn't understand. Solo queue is literally the only queue that matters (and it's match making is questionable). So like I said.... I was playing hard chilling out trying to focus. It was a tough start to the lane but I survived and stayed even in CS. {{champion:103}} supposed to be a lane bully and I was trying but like I said I am not a pro {{champion:103}} one trick. Eventually I roamed and started getting some kills and assists and then started killing my lane opponent. I knew we had a high chance of losing because enemy top was beyond fed (finished 19-4) and they were working together better as a team. I didn't rage on our top for losing lane or feeding. It happens..... I have played this game for years and seen it all. But after 30 mins of trying hard and constantly watching our {{champion:75}} get caught out and split push while enemy kill our inhib or just chase shit fights despite us all spam pining him to stop chasing and come help I lost it and said a few words. Now of course anyone reading this only reacts to that part. I know it.... people are huge hypocrites and cannot think for themselves. But despite me playing well and hard and trying to work with my team we lose. It's whatever. I honor our {{champion:22}} because we had some nice arrow + charm combos. I was sad to see literally no one honor me for trying to carry the game. They probably duos and honored their friends or just pissed that we lost and left game. But it's just a great example of why this honor system is a joke. I always have known it is but it finally just hit me that I don't need to honor anyone. Honor 2 honor 5 there is no difference. Which is why I will no longer honor anyone in this game except friends. Hopefully honoring your friends doesn't count, but it probably does knowing Riot. Ah well it is what it is. Hopefully one day they bring back honoring opponents as I would have honored {{champion:61}} as it was a very fun even lane. And I am sure at least one person on enemy would have honored me.
: I honor people that make the game more fun for me. You don't sound like that kind of person.
That's your opinion taken off one game and one write up. Damn it's amazing how easy it is to influence people on the internet. No wonder bots spamming propaganda are so effective.
: What's the point of you making this post just to argue and insult that guy for pointing out the flaws in your text? TBH I think you don't even deserve to have an honor level.... If I was deciding, you'd be banned :D btw learn the diference between your and you are.
Well it's a good thing you don't get to make important decisions because your lack of insight and common sense. The classic attack grammar when you have nothing important to say. From EUNE no less. I will 100% spell correctly on the internet when you gain some common sense.
K9 Unit (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Dukues,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yu7AndUa,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-09-29T02:10:44.694+0000) > > No big deal... its joke queue Some people play to win. > So out of sadness and frustration rage on him a bit... Shouldn&amp;#039;t have but w/e..... Not w/e, right there was enough for you to forfeit all honor and get reported. You're not honorable. > O yea... got an S raiting ... of course no one else on team did but w/e. This is a w/e, your score doesn't matter when it comes to honor. At least it shouldnt. > No honor. I get it... Then why are you posting > And a little rage right at the end. And I literally didn&amp;#039;t even say shit until almost 30 mins into the game. Hope you get chat restricted or banned. > > I hate people. They hate you too >I hate this games systems. Then quit. It's a videogame. >Mastery system is a joke, honor system is a joke. You're projecting. >if I have one teammate playing hard and carrying the game I will honor them especially if they a down to earth truth spoken person. That's you. People honor for different reasons, but I'd never honor a dude who flamed someone for performing poorly. It doesn't help. > I miss common sense I hope someday you find some.
> [{quoted}](name=K9 Unit,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yu7AndUa,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-09-29T02:18:33.904+0000) > > Some people play to win. Also wtf do you even mean by this????? I literally tried my ass off..... I mean if my team really gave a shit about winning they sure didn't show it.
: I mean, it's called "being honorable", and not "carrying", for a reason. You can be 20-0-10 and be an ass. And you can be 0-10 and still be sportsmanlike and fun and enjoyable to play with. And it's not like you've been punished or anything either. You've just not been Honored. So what? You didn't made anything honorable, you just tried to win the game, which should be the default attitude anyway.
But who actually honors because "honor". Literally every game people give out 3 honor to whoever carried. That's why its a dumb system from the start. No doubt people were pissed for losing... but then why even have honor an option. You know what would be a better form of honor than honoring your teammates? Being able to honor opponents. That would actually mean something. Too bad Riot shit the bed on that.
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