0ctavia (NA)
: Frustrating Beginning for New Players
All I can say as someone who has played this game for years is it's a pain in the ass to learn and people generally like it enough to fight through all the horrid games or they don't and move onto something else. If you do pvp with people hit tab at the start of the game and just mute everyone. This can help make the game more fun and less tilt worthy. I do this a lot in my ranked games now. Or at least mute the negative attitude players. As far as the kill stealing veteran players may do it to just secure the kill if they don't think you will get or maybe just because its bots so they don't care. If I played bots with you it would be because I am leveling an account and want to get the game over as soon as possible and know I can end the game quicker with the gold from kills than new players. Maybe use bots to learn basic combos but I think playing with people helps make you improve quicker since bots are really bad in this game and very predictable. Only problem is system for new players is pretty shit so you will probably play a lot of veteran players at the start :(. Just need to try your best to learn what you can and ignore flame. Like others said it probably help to play with friends or try and meet some new players to play with. That way not as much flame and if you play with some veteran players they could help you learn the game quicker. Good luck, hope you stick around.
: Riot did that because its easier for newbies What do i mean right now gold 5 is enough for you to win the gold board the victorious skin and so on but the gold 5 MMR is silver 3 around 1300 i think With old system any player who didnt have 1600 MMR (gold 1 with the todays system) wouldnt win anything Riot over the year make this game more and more newbie friendly (exepct of course the new player experiance for that they didnt care lol) So that why they remake the system so more players to feel good about their selves that they are "gold" when in reality they are just silver... Because in order to be gold in season 1 you needed 1600 ELO rightj now you need 1350 Do you see the reason now? so dont expect riot to make the game hard again newbies would cry and quit the game Less players=less money dont forget riot is A COMPANY based on money...
> [{quoted}](name=Giggling Granny,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ga3tjIKa,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-06-26T17:59:07.085+0000) > > Riot did that because its easier for newbies > > What do i mean right now gold 5 is enough for you to win the gold board the victorious skin and so on but the gold 5 MMR is silver 3 around 1300 i think > > With old system any player who didnt have 1600 MMR (gold 1 with the todays system) wouldnt win anything > > Riot over the year make this game more and more newbie friendly (exepct of course the new player experiance for that they didnt care lol) > > So that why they remake the system so more players to feel good about their selves that they are "gold" when in reality they are just silver... > > Because in order to be gold in season 1 you needed 1600 ELO rightj now you need 1350 > > Do you see the reason now? so dont expect riot to make the game hard again newbies would cry and quit the game > > Less players=less money dont forget riot is A COMPANY based on money... That or MAYBE they realized 1600 was kind of a ridiculous bench mark (for gold at least)? Yea they have made ranking up easier with promo helper and no decay in gold. But that's just because Riot got wiser. Plus your argument about what is or what is not gold mmr has nothing to do with old elo vs new elo system. Just the mmr number for a rank..... common sense really but not surprised you don't see that and like to waste time with pointless comments such as this.
: Would you say to play Shyvana, Warwick, or maybe Xin Zhao then if drags are that important?
> [{quoted}](name=Stalinium,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iBKEHbqa,comment-id=00080000000000000001,timestamp=2017-06-27T15:43:50.556+0000) > > Would you say to play Shyvana, Warwick, or maybe Xin Zhao then if drags are that important? I think OP hyping up drags a little too much at least in low elo. Not a bad idea to get it early but.... level 4-5... I mean... come on. I used to do that last season with vi at lvl 4 and all it did was put me behind in farm and levels (gold/silver elo). Now I don't bother unless I have teammates (granted I main {{champion:79}} ). Yea I will solo it with khaz or vi if I play them but not until at least like 10 mins into the game. Really isn't it just learning more? Like... yes being better at farming always helps but if you don't know what to do with the farm it doesn't really matter.
: I've discovered that helping lanes that cry isn't very productive.
> [{quoted}](name=Praetor Notorias,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=KcblVMsi,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-06-23T02:44:36.472+0000) > > I've discovered that helping lanes that cry isn't very productive. That's one thing I miss about last season. Last season as jungle you could camp 2 lanes while farming hard and always be highest level or close to highest level in game and could pretty much ignore one lane if they were crying and way behind. But now it's harder to do that since jungle xp nerfed and lanes can snowball harder. It's still an option and probably the correct one but it hurts a little more than it used to at least it seems that way to me.
: Finally got to Gold!
I personally enjoy gold more than I did silver & bronze. Players seem a little better/ teammates a little better, and games a little more competitive. I haven't played a lot since hitting gold and am like 1-4 in games on this account but all of them have been competitive. Not really sure what my {{champion:240}} was doing last game but I usually have some idea what my teammates and enemy thinking. But when playing through silver & bronze I usually have no idea what a few of the players doing lol. Congrats on good luck on the climb if you choose to reach higher!
: Interesting that you deleted your comment...
> [{quoted}](name=Whoreizon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BylM7P3R,comment-id=00000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-20T20:54:26.030+0000) > > Interesting that you deleted your comment... I bet it is. Seeing as no Rioter will take there time to read a post like this I wonder how that happened?
Asudurga (NA)
: Mhm, good thing screenshots exist.
Best part is even getting comments deleted doesn't help you learn to jungle. Ah well good luck. When you stop playing against unranked junglers you will see what I meant is true.
: Does anyone experience huge losing streaks after duoing a few times with a lower ranked player?
Yea. I have another account I used a lot last season to play dynamic queue with low silver friends. The account was gold 4 at one point with gold 3 mmr. Then I only played with my low silver friends on it and I eventually dropped out of gold and could not get my mmr back up lol. Luckily I waited until season was over to get demoted out of gold. But yea.... like I legit started trying when I was low lp in gold but I just couldn't win. My mmr dropped to low silver level and I was paired with the worst teammates ever while still playing like normal mmr players. Plus I would only get like 12 lp a win and lose over 20. Was hell.
: ***
when I got permabanned. Enough said? LOL
: Jungling PSA
Wait... people actually think grading system in games mean something? LOL. Well... just looking at first page of your op.gg and most played champs all your k/d/a's are less then 2.00. Which is really low. https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=radiantwukong Your cs/min in your last like 15+ ranked games in lane never exceeds 6 cs/min, the highest being 5.6 on trundle. Most games it's under 5. That is pretty low..... Your warding compared to your teammates is low..... I mean hell your support game you placed 7! green wards the whole game. Your top in that game placed 19. It's hard to look at objectives but based of your other stats I feel you are blowing that number out of proportion as well. Rank silver 5 with 43% win rate. Not exactly something to brag about. So yea. You could improve on a lot of things rather than wasting time worrying about your jungles skill. Besides... not like your last jungle game went that well ({{champion:91}} 2-8-4 with 2.6 cs/min.
: Jungling PSA
Well.... seeing as there is a slot for jungler in every game (ranked) and seeing as how there are games from challenger to bronze 5.... you need to realize there will be ranked games of different skill level. And since those games are different skill level.... so will the skill level of the junglers in those games. I am sure your 4-11 showing as top wukong was the jungles fault. Or your 0-9 Alistar game. Maybe if you worked on being a more competent teammate your jungler wouldn't have to carry your ass every game? Just a thought.
: It's funny, really. You can't make fun of my rank because we're the same rank, so you resort to reporting a name and stating stereotypical facts about my main role. You really are the lowest of the low, the worst of the league community. Maybe Riot should permaban you until you reform...
Just joking about the name thing. Sorry you can't hang and get offended by everything. Well you are commenting on a jungle post so...... just figured I would point out you don't even main the role. Seeing as how I have never had chat restriction nor been banned I would say I guess Riot disagrees? But hey... you're the one making the generalization.
: When the jungler ganks you lane, gets the kill, and takes the whole minion wave
*ping *ping *ping assist me! Free kill top! Jungle ganks top gets kill. DON'T TAKE CS!!!!!!!! FUCK OFF! *DANGER PING * DANGER PING *DANGER PING This is why I mute everyone in my games and generally have anger towards anyone who shit talks jungle even if it true sometimes. I have to deal with brain dead shit heads almost every game. The last thing I care about is taking a couple more cs than YOU FEEL I should get after a successful gank.
: my last 5 games.
supp in bronze just a bad idea. I would feel bad for you but..... it's bronze. I hate supporting in bronze but I can carry enough as it to get out if I had to. Instead of playing support though I would just jungle since it easier to have more impact on the game. But I know what you mean. I have felt the same way this season. Sadly I am still playing but that's more just paying flex queue (puke). Which I am bronze in but it's annoying because I play players of all ranks and lots of people troll in it. So I do agree match making in this game is garbage.
: I personally find this http://prntscr.com/flrgru to be interesting, a gold 5 player with a 51% total winrate in ranked, to be losing 80% of recent games on one of the better junglers this season. If you're going to be hating on a player for not having a good winrate in jungle, try improving your own first...
> [{quoted}](name=Whoreizon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BylM7P3R,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2017-06-19T22:05:49.270+0000) > > I personally find this http://prntscr.com/flrgru to be interesting, a gold 5 player with a 51% total winrate in ranked, to be losing 80% of recent games on one of the better junglers this season. If you're going to be hating on a player for not having a good winrate in jungle, try improving your own first... But I am not giving jungling advice....... Plus I have 68-69% win rate with both my main jungles so w/e. His gank pathing is common sense and then you look at his stats and realize he doesn't probably even follow his own advice.
muderra (NA)
: league ranked
If it not high elo then Riot doesn't care. But since making even matches in high elo turns already long queue times into even longer queue times those games not really even either since Riot implemented auto fill. Basically... people still play their game and they still make money so they don't worry about match making.
: 11 TIPS FOR PLAYING THIS GAME EFFICIENTLY (CRITICISM ENCOURAGED)
: Nope, I'm a plat 1 player and I manage to consistently get accounts plat 5 (I stop trying after that). So it's not very far from my best level you see ? Your ranking after 100 games is accurate minus or plus 2 divisons. Which is quite okay for a ranking system with 27 divisions.
> [{quoted}](name=Starcraft243ver,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YzEar8bl,comment-id=000100020000,timestamp=2017-06-19T13:51:25.263+0000) > > Nope, I'm a plat 1 player and I manage to consistently get accounts plat 5 (I stop trying after that). > > So it's not very far from my best level you see ? > > Your ranking after 100 games is accurate minus or plus 2 divisons. Which is quite okay for a ranking system with 27 divisions. The only problem I have with that is... because of this game's placement system one person could start at or + or - 2 divisions of their actual rank while someone else could drop a fuck ton and still not be there after 100 games. If it was true that you never were actually within your skill level (on previous ranked accounts) then this would make more sense, but Riot can't even do that correct.
OhhTea (NA)
: MMR and Matchmaking... are they even trying?
I just wrote a post about this roughly an hour ago. Hell.. I have said it many times. Their mming just dumb. Worst part is I almost got motivated to try and "climb" a little in flex queue just for rewards but... holy fucking shit.... nope. I did finally hit gold in solo/duo so I could look to try and improve at the game and climb. But that takes effort and I am all out of fucks to give. Maybe if I didn't have to spend my season climbing through bronze and silver to get back to my actual skill level I would have energy and care to still want to play the game. I can play like 1 ranked solo/duo game a week and maybe have some fun but no way I can spam it. Then I figure "well I am current B2 in flex maybe I can have some easy games to climb and get into a groov to jump into solo/duo". NOPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!. I am about to get demoted to B3 LMFAO because games skill ranges are so fucking random you can't even play the game normally. Playing normally and assuming a laner in a favorable matchup will be ok doesn't work because they could be a brain dead b5 player playing vs some random mid gold player and about to get shit on. Its just.... too much. I hate having to take into account my teammates ranks when playing A RANKED GAME MODE. Hell... it doesn't really even seem to matter since everyone seems to troll in that mode anyways (myself included).
Rioter Comments
meowwow7 (NA)
: that match went on for 40 minutes and i'm more disappointed with the raka that got {{item:3190}} but not fully committing tank
> [{quoted}](name=meowwow7,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8IgXO4sV,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-17T05:09:18.554+0000) > > that match went on for 40 minutes and i'm more disappointed with the raka that got {{item:3190}} but not fully committing tank Just played another marvelous game of flex queue. starting off by getting my mid first blood, bot a double kill. What's there response?????? FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED. Went top to get top laner a kill... he just fucking sat there afk so top got away.... he proceeds to feed. I HATE THIS FUCKING QUEUE. I HATE FUCKING SILVER I HATE FUCKING BRONZE. I have never been this fucking tilted. At least last season you could carry as jungle when you had shit head teammates. Now you can't.
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: W:12 L:31 in ranked
Don't play support in bronze and if you do play a carry support like {{champion:63}} or {{champion:161}}
: Why does Infernal Dragon keep spawning three times?
I don't always see infernals but it seems like whatever the first dragon is will have a high chance of being the second or 3rd dragon. I usually only see 2 dragons per game with a lot of times 3 spawning of 1 type
: Yeah, I'd like to know what the rewards are. While I've barely played for the past few months, I wouldn't be opposed to completing my 10 placement games in Flex Queue solely for the reward. Even if I manage to lose them all, I should end up in Gold.
Is flex queue tied to your solo/duo at all though? Pretty sure its a entire new queue. Which honestly makes no sense since it is basically dynamic queue.... never understood how our prior season 6 rank solo/duo was supposed to be based on our season 6 dynamic queue rank when flex queue replaced it. I am happy they did it that was so solo/duo wasn't more f'd up than it usually is, but still when you think about it doesn't make sense. Hell not sure why both aren't tied to it. Seems dumb thinking if someone is rank in 1 queue they can't get it in the other. At least when it comes to solo/duo rank and flex. Obviously there are situations where someone could get a high flex queue rank but can't achieve that same rank in solo/duo. But if someone diamond/plat/gold in solo/duo... why the F they start bronze in flex? Its been what 7 months? queue still really isn't that even. It's a lot better than when season started but even in my "bronze" games the average solo/duo rank (actual rank) is like silver 3 lol. Usually 1/3 of us are gold. Just makes the grind more annoying. If I am in "bronze" then let me stomp some bronze kids so I can rank up quicker.
: > It feels really shitty knowing I get same rewards as someone who may be exact same skill level but started in gold or high silver and only had to play a handful of games. Its your own fault for rushed, and not winning. This just feel like this because u are arrogant, and think u deserve better than other. I started bronze too, but my reward shouldn't be compare too other player result. >But still...... icon/borders and 1 skin for hitting a certain rank really isn't that much. Its freee already, never happy. Greedy as hell. >Should give out RP rewards for getting higher ranks or other limited time rewards like different skin dyes for hitting certain ranks, etc Rp ?? nice joke.
Arrogant? LOL. If you going to throw a word around at least use it properly. So sick of kids in this game man. Sorry I have played this game forever and know how their system works. I know people tend to need to play a good number of games to reach their "actual" rank. But... not all people. Some get free handouts. Hell they still actually have to play to get their "actual" rank but most don't because they happy with free reward they got even though they would either drop ranks after 200 games or not move. Meanwhile others have to climb 8+ divisions. Just saying it shouldn't be this hard to be consistent..... If people are supposed to play 200 or w/e games to hit their true rank then build the system and placement around that. ... it's literally 1 free skin. Not exactly a HOLY FUCKING SHIT moment. They make hundreds of skins a season and make bank off them but then were supposed to lose our minds when they give out one free skin? Sorry I live in the real world. So say 400 rp to like silver 800 to gold + and up from there is CRAZY HANDOUTS? lol....... I know they won't give RP but other games do... and they still make money and not nearly as much as Riot. Yet Riot can't even give a small portion of a free online currency that is only good in their game. Did you know they used to give out free 400 RP a few seasons ago just for playing? Apparently they can't afford that now..... lmfao. Just saying stop defending them saying giving a small amount of RP away is insane when it's actually quite common in other games. I don't expect hundreds of dollars of free RP and skins..... stop taking everything to such extremes. They would probably go with IP. Which... ok cool. IP is meaningless to me but would work for a lot of players (at least new players). But you already know it would be like 1 to 2k lmfao. Which would be a joke. So what's wrong with chromas? You don't think its dumb season rewards basically stop at gold? (besides a border/icon.... LMFAO). Well... at least until challenger. I already know if they offered more rewards for going higher it would increase player incentive to play a little. Even if it just chromas for the victorious skin..... it would be something. And this is coming from a player who will probably never rank higher than gold but still think its dumb plat - masters essentially get the same reward as gold just different color border/icon.
Douggie (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=MadKnife IV,realm=EUW,application-id=K6EGEal2,discussion-id=nAgP0fBd,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-16T08:42:01.971+0000) > > No offense but that sounds like you got boosted I actually boosted friends during S2/3. But, uh, sure, if that makes you feel better, I guess. "I got boosted." No, I just have mediocre micro skills and very good macro skills. Riot, unfortunately, has made the latter much less important over the last few years. > [{quoted}](name=Our Carry,realm=NA,application-id=K6EGEal2,discussion-id=nAgP0fBd,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-16T08:42:29.131+0000) > > ill help You are a cool guy and I like you. But it's late, and I have to finish tiling a floor tomorrow morning-ish. We shall try our luck tomorrow night. Or...tonight, technically.
OMG! thank you! Someone else has said this. I never been close to Diamond but my best skill is Macro. But season 7 was much harder for me than season 6 since Macro is less important this season.
: No offense but that sounds like you got boosted
> [{quoted}](name=MadKnife IV,realm=EUW,application-id=K6EGEal2,discussion-id=nAgP0fBd,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-16T08:42:01.971+0000) > > No offense but that sounds like you got boosted Not sure about season 3 but he was d5 in s4, plat in both s5 & s6.
: Enjoy playing tanks? Lol, forget about gaining LP.
I gave an up vote. You can carry as a tank but.... it's different. Like.... in mid silver and lower I don't feel like playing tanks because to me it's literally a 1v9 scenario. Which is why I don't really feel like playing flex queue right now. My best jungler is currently {{champion:79}}. When I have high silver + teammates I have had a lot of success playing {{champion:79}}. But lower than that I can really get punished for playing gragas. In the end it probably evens out.. but It feels better playing a carry so 1v9 rather than having to try and depend on my teammates at all. What people don't realize when playing in silver or bronze is people may not even know how to cast an ability. It gets really annoying playing a tank when you need to depend on your teammates to do some damage early game and they literally sit there, do nothing, miss all their skill shots, or just walk into enemy abilites/team without doing anything and dying. That's why I am mad about being in bronze in flex queue trying to hit gold. 1. rank levels vary a lot. 2. since I am bronze... I literally have no idea who the fuck I will be matched with. I have to assume no one knows how to play at all so I just play carries. Going {{champion:79}} could pay off but..... it only would because I better teammates that game so we would most likely win anyways even if I played a carry so why waste time trying to tank is I can just play a carry?
Zeanix (OCE)
: If someone tells you to 'go kill yourself', that player needs to be immediately punished
If they spell it out ok. If people say "kys" you can't really punish it. It could (does right?) mean "kiss yourself". Or "Kolej Yayasan Saad"
Rioter Comments
: Wow, this is your second needlessly aggressive comment attacking the OP. Someone's got some real anger issues.
Or? Just pointing out the obvious that OP doesn't know what he/she talking about. Dude has 700 games played in silver. I know his type I am basically him. Quickly looking at this stats made it beyond obvious why he thinks jungle super strong. When you have kids who just randomly roam, randomly let lane get pushed in, and don't look at the map they just think the only reason they lose lane is becuase jng. The only reason they lose obj is because jng. The only reason they lose game is because jungle. Just pointing out that's not true at all.
: Jg is way too strong this season. ADC's were never useless that was a reddit circlejerk that turned into a meme. You gonna rank bash me as well?
> [{quoted}](name=Apocyliptic,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2iTEI1uK,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2017-06-15T17:16:16.393+0000) > > Jg is way too strong this season. ADC's were never useless that was a reddit circlejerk that turned into a meme. > > You gonna rank bash me as well? that's why adc mains were struggling to climb k. Now they on top of the ladder. Just saying its dumb to attack a role because op doesn't know much. If your mid laner is completely outclassed by enemy mid it's pretty damn hard to win isn't it? What about fed enemy adc? Or top? You can't just argue in terms of when you have a teammate get completely outclassed. If you play a game when junglers are evenly skilled then what? They literally have a very small impact or at least no more than anyone else. Just because the role can impact the entire map doesn't mean it's op all roles can do that.
: He wasn't attacking the role nor was he blaming jungle, OP was just pointing out that a good jungler has a lot of room to make an above average impact on the game. There's no reason for you to immediately jump to attacking his playstyle and literally looking up his stats on a 3rd party site.
someone good in any role can do that...... plus it's pretty damn relevant to look at this stats. It's one thing if its some Diamond+ person saying it. But when its someone mid silver (which trust me I know silver) I know what mid laners are like. Yes... junglers suck... everyone sucks. But saying role op because OP has such a small understanding of the game should also weight in.
: I honestly wish the jungle didnt feel game winning/losing
You average as much cs in mid as I do as a jungler...... maybe work on that before blaming your jungler? How often do you ward enemy jungle and help your jungle collapse on the enemy jungle? How many times does your teammate get invaded and you just sit mid or roam bot like an idiot while enemy takes your mid turret for free? I bet a lot seeing as you have high kill participation but super low cs. Great.. you might get some kills on those roams but then you better freaken carry since you just gave up mid turret and pressure and gave enemy mid + jungle (and team) a large advantage. There is so much to the game to learn and perfect. Yes... jungle has the most reach since you have most impact on objectives and can influence all lanes. But it definitely got nerfed and maybe it still a little op but.... all lanes can have impact. Hell... I would argue this season is actually the most even I have seen the game as far as each role having an impact. Seems like they almost all 20% (not quite but close). I remember at the start of the season when adc was useless. Now it's farily strong. Yea... last season most top players in challenger were junglers, but don't think that's the case now. Tl, Dr. Yes jungle is strong but so is mid and other lanes. Your in freaken mid silver..... there is SOOOO MUCH more you can do to win games. Wasting time blaming junglers is just that WASTING TIME.
: I honestly wish the jungle didnt feel game winning/losing
Meh either learn to jungle like a boss or piss off. If you had the balls you would just play jungle. Jungle is changed every season while everyone else may get an item change or two and couple new meta champs. Learn to play your role and watch out for enemy jungle and hey HELP YOUR JUNGLER. Then maybe you won't suck so much.
: No i finished bronze 1 or 2 once, every other season i ranked i quit after promotionals because i got bronze again, even after winning a large portion of those promotionals. My first season i played over 100 ranked games and lost most of them and ever since then i have never been able to get up past b1. the time i did get to b1 it took me like 140 games, and then as soon as i got to b1 i had like 3 matches with 2afks and a bunch of other shit and 14 games later im b5 again.... its ridiculous. on my sons account ( he is 8 i only made it so he can play customs with me) i decided to ranked and got silver 2 that same season, like 35 games later i was gold 3.
Lol this makes no sense to me. Like... I guess it's possible but you really have no idea how to carry a game then. Which kind of proves why support is such a joke role in low elo. It does bring up a good point I have argued for awhile though of why new account starting mmr is way too high. Its almost impossible to get ranked into bronze after the start of the season on a fresh new account and with the inflated lp gains even someone like you who can't carry themselves out of bronze could maybe make gold with a lot of luck since such large lp gains and minimal lp losses to start. Reality is this system forces players to play hundreds of ranked games to maybe rank up to their average skill level. It sucks, but it is what it is. No point even playing provisional games unless you plan to play at least 150 ranked games in a season. It does get pretty annoying. You know how I felt having this account back in bronze after finishing gold 3 last season? Was annoying but knew I would drop (just didn't expect to land in bronze). So spent this season re-ranking back to gold.... which I finally got to but now I don't feel like playing this game anymore. Which sucks because games are actually "fun" again for me. But I am just so sick of League even playing an evenly matched game like I wanted to weeks ago sounds dull as shit to me now. Guess I will just take my free skin and leave. I do have another account that was placed B3 just got back to silver. I have already played like 60 games though. Granted, not all were my main role but then that also shows it does matter what role you play. I can carry as jungle up to mid gold, but other roles are a lot harder for me to carry on consistently. I mean... I did rank 3 accounts to gold last season playing 3 different roles (well 3.5 played lots of mid up to like silver 2 and in gold). All but top really I guess..... but that was 6+ months ago. Meta has changed, I am rusty, so my main champs not as good now as they were back then plus I am slower and worse at csing. If you really want to rank out of bronze stop playing support or play carry supports like mages. I can carry low silver & bronze games as supports like {{champion:63}} or {{champion:161}} easily it just gets boring knowing most games no one is going to push or try to end so you have to literally do everything. Maybe around high silver you can switch to playing more actual supports but... even then it can be hit or miss.
: If they have made it to challenger then they should know how to play safe in an unfamiliar role lol just cause someone makes it to challenger doesnt auotmatically make them good i mean look at qtpie prefect exmaple of a scrub ascending beyond his limits anyone can get carried
> [{quoted}](name=Kneelbeforezoth,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fLNrJgbE,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-06-14T15:28:52.111+0000) > > If they have made it to challenger then they should know how to play safe in an unfamiliar role lol just cause someone makes it to challenger doesnt auotmatically make them good i mean look at qtpie prefect exmaple of a scrub ascending beyond his limits anyone can get carried lmfao such a troll comment. At least now I know not to take anything you say seriously.
: Autofill is there cause no one want to play all the roles if you git gud at all the roles then auto fill shouldnt effect you however if thats not something you are willing to do then go play dota 2
> [{quoted}](name=Kneelbeforezoth,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fLNrJgbE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-14T15:22:06.011+0000) > > Autofill is there cause no one want to play all the roles if you git gud at all the roles then auto fill shouldnt effect you however if thats not something you are willing to do then go play dota 2 Tell that to high elo players and they will shit on you. "Go learn all roles at a challenger level bro". Tell that to a challenger streamer I dare you.
MarieGold (EUW)
: People crying in League like, eeeh!!!
I am not really excited for rune changes. I am happy they finally free but.... fuck man not only are they free but how they completely changing them? Like wtf. Going to take so long to figure out wtf going on. And it sounds like they don't even have stat buffs anymore so.... here comes a huuuuggeeee change to the game. I will admit I never really look at my rune pages but I know I need those base stats that I have saved from them. Without those... it's going to take awhile to figure out wtf I do for damage + have for armor and w/e else. Jungle will once again be an entirely new experience. I love having to try and relearn my main role every season when all other roles stay the same.
MarieGold (EUW)
: People crying in League like, eeeh!!!
I think most diamond + players don't want auto fill as well. I get why they have it but..... it really sucks getting auto filled when you don't want to play other roles. If they added an opt out of a role option I would play fill. I think more people would as well. I just.... never want to play support anymore. I mean... I guess on my main I can and will if needed but I just..... if I am going to be auto filled out of my main roles I would rather at least play a lane that I enjoy rather then going back to playing support. I get it... I used to play support... I still can at a basic level I just.... don't really ever want to anymore. And that's what is auto filled the most.
Cragmore (NA)
: Bronze...
If you're really mid gold player then you will get there eventually. Takes time to climb in this system. I was mid gold last season and was pissed I dropped from G3 to B1. Took a good amount of time but made it back to gold. Even for a very basic gold player as myself bronze is easy. Silver... is a different beast to me but once you find out what works for your in the current meta its not really that bad either.
: More ranked divisions/tiers for lower elo players
"Oh and another thing i find super ironic, is that my smurf is ranked gold 3, but i cant climb out of bronze on my main. How is that possible? Because there is no such thing as "elo hell" right?" ... there's no way this is true and if it is there is more going on than what your saying. I used to be for more division but at the end of the day it won't change anything it will only make an already long climb longer. Games are matched based on mmr so whether your bronze 5 with super low mmr or bronze 6 or 7 (if added) you still going to get matched in same games.
: Same here. Got gold and parked it for a few months now not sure if I'll work on 3s or flex, been spending more time on alts solo queue lately. Flex has been super hit or miss. Some games there will be plat & diamonds in solo and you get paired with bronze 4s so it's just an autoloss, sometimes it's the other way and a free win but more often than not it's an autoloss because those with the higher ranks are premade. I did some premades but have found lots want discord and a dedicated set playing time which I cant commit to so end up going solo or duo in flex which means facing more high solo queue ELO premades in silver flex, so unless you can find a premade with higher ELO people most of the time it'll be against you if there's an imbalance. Would estimate around 2/3 are decent games and 1/3 total premade blowouts. Getting out of bronze is pretty easy since the people there need to be bad and do really bad in placements. Got out playing solo in under 20 games in all my accounts (lowest was placed B3) but mid silver where the average person is placed starts to see more screwed up matchmaking and a bit harder. 3v3 is hit or miss too. Lots have no idea how 3s works or what champs to pick and its even easier to lose in lobby when you get total shit picks like solo laner Ashe. 1 bad player can make the game uncarryable because TT snowballs harder and now you have 1/3 of your team being a deadweight rather than 1/5 in SR, meanwhile if you're fed you only need to carry 2 people rather than 4 which makes carrying a lot easier if you do good. Still havent set on which queue I want to get my 2nd gold on since neither is that appealing and a big turn off after a few games in each.
wait. 3v3 counts towards getting additional rewards? I would totally play 3v3 over 5v5 Flex. Only reason I am not gold in it is because I am pissed about placements since I was only a few games from gold after preseason and then got rank reset back to 0 lp silver 5. Going to need to read about additional rewards. I enjoy 3v3 but not enough right now to play it if its only a gold border in 3v3. But if I get additional rewards for getting gold in 3v3 instead of flex then I will definitely do 3v3.
Rioter Comments
: Didn't play ranked for a month 'cuz of tilt...
Well I have never been close to diamond so can't really offer advice there. I will say meta does seem to be more early game focused currently than last season and I can imagine its even worse in diamond compared to gold/silver. But the fact that snowballing is even a thing in low elo kind of shows that early game meta is here. This might sound dumb but your problem may just be bad luck and attitude. Once again, I am low elo so there probably more to it but my worst fall from what I remember was a couple seasons ago when I dropped from silver 1 promos to silver 4 almost 0 lp in less than a week. That fall really pissed me off and I ended up taking a break from the game for awhile like you did. When I came back I felt refreshed, more focused, and more willing to look past teammates mistakes and just focused on myself. I ended up going on a crazy streak of like 19-1 or something and hit silver 1 for the first time ever. Then slowly made my way up to gold for my first time from there. Similar shit happened to me this season as well. I was pissed off I just didn't want to have to play through silver again. I just wanted to be gold and be done with the climb. I was stuck in silver 2 for a couple weeks and tilting my face off and commenting on the boards a lot. Finally I just accepted I had not adjusted to new jungle changes. Then a weekend of good luck and improved play/focus and I went on a 17-3 streak to get back into gold. Obviously the elos are much different but just trying to say. You probably just need to get back to your roots and play your core champions in your main role. Or if there no longer super meta maybe try and pickup your favorite meta champ in your role and just spam the shit out of them for awhile. Meta champs more important in diamond than low elo so it obviously different than my experience. But... if you did the climb once you can do it again.
: Stuck In Bronze For Life
I personally don't find climbing hard until like silver 2. Others don't find climbing hard until Plat. Others diamond, very few challenger/master. All depends on what level your generally play at.
: Stop taking my cs please
I get this in memes and games but.... higher elo players generally don't have problem getting cs even in most of your scenarios. Just watch their streams or game stats. Maybe they don't get as much as they want but..... they get cs. You need to learn how to rotate better, clear waves better, time backs better, etc. I do too but I don't complain about csing since I know Its my problem not the team.
: Stop taking my cs please
I mean.... maybe if you're in your lane instead of being pushed out and having to back and or not busy doing a shit roam I wouldn't take your cs...... I get there is bad times for taxing and taking peoples cs but the people who rage about cs are usually the shittiest of shit players and terrible at csing. At least in my low elo experience. I only ever get pinged off csing by people who are like low silver or bronze... at least... the most. I have yet to see someone in gold rage at me for pushing their lane after a gank or covering it and pushing it while they dead, roaming, or backing. But holy fucking shit in like silver 2-5 or bronze? Will get pinged spammed. I just laugh when I see how bad their csing. Even if they were in lane they only would kill half the wave anyways... might as well let me cs as at least I will kill most of them.
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