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caw (NA)
: I'm no longer enchanted by Ranked Solo/duo
I feel you friend. Honestly victorious skins aren't even that great haha :). Yea I really just can't stand ranked anymore. I just get back to gold every season and then basically stop playing. Currently in my gold promos and can't wait to just have them over.... although usually takes more than 1 attempt lol. I really dislike what Riot has done to jungle and this game and I quit playing jungle. For whatever reason I been playing adc last 2 seasons and..... idk I find it fun but alone its pretty shitty. Its hard to have consistency with random supports. But when I duo with friends we almost always win. So I guess if I was really going to try and push it would probably be only if a friend wanted to try and push as well. I really liked this game for years and just never improved enough to get out of silver. But then idk..... I like learned I feel some small things that had a great impact and ranked from silver to mid gold on multiple accounts. Its not close to high elo but... Idk I had some confidence in my play and it really showed. But after season 6 and season 7 I just don't understand this game anymore. With new runes people do such stupid dumbass damage and towers suck... .barons weak as fuck.... basically everything is shit ass weak that you are stuck working with a bunch of randoms to try and win. Forcing you to fight shit team fights as winning fights that are 2v1 or 3v1 or w/e are so damn hard these days due to the damage creep. I feel these changes have made solo/duo queue boring as hell although it has made pro 5v5 scene more exciting. Soooo in conclusion I feel what made this game special is mostly gone and replaced with some over damage death match 5v5 game I don't really like. I have had less than 50% win rate last 2 seasons after really never having less than 50% before that (except like season 2 my first ranked season). And its not like i've gotten worse lol I am very consistent. It's just what used to be important (more macro play) is a little less important now compared to just like super hard snowball fight shit fights 1 shot the right people aram style. Anyways... I feel you... solo/duo queue is boring as hell these days and I don't think it will ever truly be fun again since Riot is continuing to balance the game around competitive 5v5 pro scene rather than solo/duo queue/norms etc.
: > [{quoted}](name=King Manatee,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8uckVTZF,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-22T18:30:52.797+0000) > > I agree that playing the game nowadays feels like it's a bit less about "outplays", but it seems like people don't like to admit they're getting outplayed anyway. Most just say it's how the game is nowadays and that it wasn't them who played poorly - or their enemy who played good. Gotta be realistic here. It’s not really an “outplay” if your stealth’s cooldown is shorter than my actual animations. Or you have 4 dashes in your kit. Or you have 3 different knock ups and a pull, or you auto win fights if the enemy falls below 40%, or you heal for 80% missing hp, or you burst without gold. None of these things allow for “outplays” because the opponent has no opportunity to do anything.
> [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8uckVTZF,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-04-22T18:51:08.207+0000) > > It’s not really an “outplay” if your stealth’s cooldown is shorter than my actual animations. Or you have 4 dashes in your kit. Or you have 3 different knock ups and a pull, or you auto win fights if the enemy falls below 40%, or you heal for 80% missing hp, or you burst without gold. > > None of these things allow for “outplays” because the opponent has no opportunity to do anything. This right here! I guess these kits are "flashy" for the pro scene.... but just makes the interaction in game feel terrible. Cheesy kills... cheesy deaths.
: I agree that playing the game nowadays feels like it's a bit less about "outplays", but it seems like people don't like to admit they're getting outplayed anyway. Most just say it's how the game is nowadays and that it wasn't them who played poorly - or their enemy who played good. Gotta be realistic here.
> [{quoted}](name=King Manatee,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8uckVTZF,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-22T18:30:52.797+0000) > > I agree that playing the game nowadays feels like it's a bit less about "outplays", but it seems like people don't like to admit they're getting outplayed anyway. Most just say it's how the game is nowadays and that it wasn't them who played poorly - or their enemy who played good. Gotta be realistic here. True.
: Remember when "outplay" didn't mean playing a mobile champ with an overloaded kit?
> [{quoted}](name=Tuition Fee,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8uckVTZF,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-22T18:26:06.321+0000) > > Remember when "outplay" didn't mean playing a mobile champ with an overloaded kit? yea miss those days
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BayoNX19 (NA)
: Riot has made its toxic 50/50 matchmaking into the biggest determinant of winning or losing a game.
I haven't even had a fucking 50% win rate in two seasons lmfao. Ever since new runes winning seems so fucking hard. I more than half the time get the short straw and get the worst player in the game on my team. Feels so fucking bad man. "blah blah balh get better noob blah balh". Lmfao. People so dumb its embarrassing. I just think nowadays people don't remember when the game actually like was about caring and showing your true skill. They don't remember how good it felt to play a game that you could go into fights 2v1 or 3v1 and come out ahead if you had a lead and played it right instead of being instant deleted by anything that touches you. A game where you could leave your shit head teammates to fight some dumbass fight at 20 mins while you split and took farm and objectives and not worry about enemy team 3 manning baron at fresh spawn 20 mins. I could go on and on but reality is this game is fucking shit compared to what it used to be. Yes... it's prettier.... there's a fuck ton more champs.... but at its core League is still just League. Problem is... the core gameplay is shittier than it used to be making the overall experience shittier regardless of all the bullshit you add on top of it. Riot sold out for pro 5v5 and its very fucking obvious if you have played for a few seasons to how much the game has changed. So yea... pro scene more fun to watch now I will admit that. But was it worth killing your core game and ruining the solo/duo queue / playing alone experience??? I would argue not.
: Mid-silver matchmaking
Match making in this game has always been terrible and will always be terrible. I mean its definitely gotten worse but I know your pain. Legit feel like every game just a random roulette of will I win the lottery? And.... yes I know this is the feeling you're supposed to have when you are in your elo. And I am not saying I am really much higher elo than my current elo. The problem I have is this. So unlike these superiority complex fucks who are just going to shit on people since they don't live and breath League. I have an actual knowledge of what my actual elo is. How? Well.... from years of experience and multiple accounts. I know what its like to be the weak link on your team, the feeling of when your in a higher elo than you should be. Problem is..... I don't feel like that at all right now. Now I don't feel like I should be much of a higher rank... but my problem is this. I know for a fucking fact I am a higher rank than my current elo. I also know that my games don't really feel "difficult" in the feeling of like "holy shit this lane I am playing is really hard". Nope....... not at all actually. And before you shit on me for being silver 1 realize.... yes I am shit... but I am a very consistent kind of shit. LIke mid gold for at least 3+ years kind of shit. My best is not much better than say gold 3 and my worst is now much lower. So when you have a consistent player like me.... literally being stuck in shit losing streaks in games I feel useless because I have some of the dumbest people I have ever seen play the game on my team. It makes me wonder. NOw for those who have only played the game for a couple years maybe you think "huh guess this is just how the game is". Problem is.... I have played the game for almost 10 years... and its never consistently been as shitty as it's been the last 2 seasons. Damage creep and this obsession with pro league has made solo/duo queue in this game a joke. I really can't imagine actually trying to take solo/duo seriously anymore. Its so fucking boring to play. I miss when I could just clear waves and like focus on objectives rather than having to help my shit team in some shit useless fight because when my shit team dies in this shit fight enemy gets to 2 man fucking baron at 20 mins because baron is a shit ass weakling. There is just so much noob shit in this game now that makes almost every solo/duo game feel fucked. Its just "did I get the r%%%%%s this game or not". And if not.... free win... and if yes.... most likely a loss. And god fucking forbid you want to play something off meta. Insert super oop champ and get free wins. com. So much rambling but as someone who has plyaed this game for so long and is very consistent in my play... the game feels awful to play compared to how it used to especially as a solo player. I will admit season 9 feels better than 8. But runes reforge was the death of solo queue in my opinion. The damage creep is just too much and completely changed the game. So now I am stuck playing boring games trying to get back to gold... for gods knows why for the shit free skins we get I guess so I can quit playing solo/duo queue. Because as much as people want to shit on gold.... at least its not shit ass silver and these god damn shit silver borders. O yea btw... thanks for taking away my fucking gold border at the start of the season for no reason you stupid hillbilly fucks. So cool to just ruin rewards because some noobies pissed they had to wait a few months to receive rewards when all us vets have known this for almost a fucking decade. Plus not like you couldn't have waited like 5 months or something until like split 2...... split the difference. But nope... too complicated for billion dollar co. like Riot.
: Game is now more than ever about picking broken champs.
I hate telling people what to play and what runes to go but if your not playing champs that are good and like proven builds/runes with a champion you are really generally screwing yourself and your team over. I mean yea... you can rank up playing non meta shit but holy fuck why waste the time when you can play something meta and already have a much higher % chance of winning? Games always been about meta but feels like every season it become more & more meta, which I hate.
Tiure (NA)
: Let's start by assuming you're correct, even though you have a sample size of 2. If matchmaking really was fucked up, "gold" and "diamond" would be meaningless, since you can get matched up against anyone anyway. Basically, if the game isn't going to create even situations in terms of MMR, you have basically a 50% chance that your team of golds and silvers is actually higher skill than the enemy plats and diamonds. Literally, in your point to say "rank isn't a display of skill," you say "gold players vs. plat players is unfair and uneven matchmaking." So...rank IS a display of skill. What are some reasons a game might have been golds vs. plats and diamonds? 1. the plats and diamonds have tanked their mmr from bought accounts and are on a steep decline to gold 2. at least one of your golds is a booster or bought account 3. you're the best players in gold facing off against the worst players in high plat, for a game that has an average elo of around plat 3 or plat 2. 4. You are queueing at 3 am and this is the most fair game the system could possibly offer you 5. op.gg is wrong and the ranks are actually closer together than you think Basically, quit yo bitchin
OMG literally F off. You don't even play fucking ranked you ********************* lol. You have no idea how bad beginning of season ranked is and how it is now. Literally just f off. I hate people who comment about ranked who don't play it. Like................... omg just lol how do you think that makes sense? O.... because you play ranked last minute every season? Either play ranked and realize how fucked it is or shhhhhhhhhhhhh. Your bs about if ranked was really messed up then blah blah blah lol. Go see for yourself or sit down. Also why you dumb kids always take everythng to the 10th degree. Have you lost common sense? never had it? low iq...
: What if we removed runes and masteries?
I feel like the game was better in the old days because runes/masteries felt less impactful. I guess it is because the game was newer to me back then but I really liked it when the game wasn't as much about runes/mastries you running and playing around them as it was about your champ, your build, your play. Plus honestly the game was more fun without insane damage creep. It would probably be boring now if it was like season 1 damage but even like season 4-5 the game was more damage creeped but not to such an insane level as now. Granted, season 9 feels a lot better than season 8 damage wise but it still over the top. I miss being able to easily like 2v1 or 3v1 fights when people were just worse at the game. But now if you get stunned for a second and try to 2v1 or 3v1 you can die so fast you don't really have a chance for an outplay.
mack9112 (NA)
: Your matchmaking looks pretty consistent
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Gfrp2B2M,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-03-25T19:05:20.498+0000) > > Your matchmaking looks pretty consistent If you referring to just looking at op.gg and seeing everyone similar mmr then I got land on mars to sell you.
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mack9112 (NA)
: Your burnt out
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cjEp3fmJ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-16T01:45:34.509+0000) > > Your burnt out it's true. This post was shit lol im just tilted and sick of playing.
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: Its because of all the smurfs
> [{quoted}](name=XXXMurderPenguin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jvvaZg1u,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-14T19:16:31.187+0000) > > Its because of all the smurfs yea all the smurfs don't help that's for sure. But bigger problem to me is it seems game just matches a bunch of random numbers together so although the ranks "look even" its more like you have a say Gold 3 mid verse silver 3 mid, then like a gold 4 jungle verse a silver 3 jungle. Back and forth back and forth and seems like it just comes down to who gets the best matchup and can stomp hard and help their team. Whereas later in the season it will be like gold 3 verse gold 3-5 (old system) pretty much all the way down the line unless a player has a good win streak and their mmr higher than average but it still works since they more around that skill level. But like right now I could play a game and my mid could have been gold 3 mid last season but currently silver 1 and is playing someone who has been silver 3 for like 2 years and is still only silver 2-3. So like.... yea.. based on the mmr it looks even but the reality is ... the mid laner who has more experienced and overall is actually better because their actual elo is higher has the advantage.
: Idk man I catch these horrible teammates that don't even belong to div they are in or if the divisions did change than it placed me pretty low - this last game it literally felt like playing alone against everyone in enemy team like these guys don't even try (or they just so bad that it looks like it) - in the opposite side of how bad are they doing and that they literally all say stuff like they don't wanna play and surrender however 4 of us pressed no (Including me I always press no when I feel like the game is winnable - that game was winnable if they at least tryed, guess what they didn't...)
Yea. Not going to say match making every great but it seems like later in the season most of my games generally are closer and I don't feel the need to like 1v9 as much... or at the very least the games aren't insanely hard snowball stomps a majority of the time. But feel like this season a very high percent of my games have been stomps one way or the other. And... it just doesn't feel that great. Like winning super hard where everyone our team fed is cool but feels kind of boring especially when a lot of your wins that way. And then it feels terrible where it feels like you hardly had a chance because enemy team just stomps your team so hard. I also don't like it because I generally actually try to play around my teammates and with them. But with match making so wake I never really know wtf my teammates thinking so it's really hard to be on the same page. Whereas later in the season I feel like I can have a better understanding of what people are thinking based on my rank, at least more consistently.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dukues,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w7p4cHfQ,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-03-14T19:02:36.491+0000) > > If you're in silver or low gold and I am your jungler. STFU. I know more than you unless you a plat + smurf. > > If you mid gold I won't be in your game playing jungle since it boring as fuck and once I get back to gold I will hardly playing ranked cuz this terrible mming has finally gotten to me. > > - singed low elo veteran who is sick of new kids thinking they know wtf is up (talking gold-bronze obviously). Rank shame is strong with this one.
> [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w7p4cHfQ,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2019-03-14T19:11:50.917+0000) > > Rank shame is strong with this one. More of just a joke but honestly lol like if someone has never been gold and there not like.... a lot better than silver elo (which is most players in silver) then I am not going to listen to them when they tell me shit because 95% of the time they wrong. But then they blast me like they know wtf they talking about. Find it funny the account you posting on in bronze in all ranked seasons. Either you too much of a ***** to post on your main or.... well.... we getting advice from Bronze. Personally I agree with mostly what you say but.... all these posts always talk about absolutes and as others have pointed out lanes have times they can bad mouth jungle as well. Every game different and no situation the same so making a list like you did although can generally be a good guideline isn't always accurate because the situations change.
Rioter Comments
: A message from your jungler.
If you're in silver or low gold and I am your jungler. STFU. I know more than you unless you a plat + smurf. If you mid gold I won't be in your game playing jungle since it boring as fuck and once I get back to gold I will hardly playing ranked cuz this terrible mming has finally gotten to me. - singed low elo veteran who is sick of new kids thinking they know wtf is up (talking gold-bronze obviously).
huhndog (NA)
: Can we get a Zac revert
I like new {{champion:154}} old zac ult was so bullshit. Wouldn't mind them scaling his ap ratios or something but he be so op if they revert him.
: my favorite is when you're top securing the second round of your buffs and your laner is STILL pushed up to the enemy tower and they are like "WTF WHY DON"T YOU FUCKING GANK!? WE CAN GET THEM!" Yeah... if we both rofldive and die to tower hits, sure. Then they get mad when i don't gank them all game cause they've already fed so much. You NEVER try to save someone who's drowning. It will just drag you under too. i completely understand that you're drowning, of course I feel bad, but you dove in head first without knowing how to swim and expect me to just rush to your aid after witnessing you do it and you calling me a faqqot moments before jumping in. Just. No.
> [{quoted}](name=Neko Siren,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XTg1yzRr,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-03-12T22:11:05.354+0000) > > my favorite is when you're top securing the second round of your buffs and your laner is STILL pushed up to the enemy tower and they are like "WTF WHY DON"T YOU FUCKING GANK!? WE CAN GET THEM!" > > Yeah... if we both rofldive and die to tower hits, sure. Then they get mad when i don't gank them all game cause they've already fed so much. You NEVER try to save someone who's drowning. It will just drag you under too. i completely understand that you're drowning, of course I feel bad, but you dove in head first without knowing how to swim and expect me to just rush to your aid after witnessing you do it and you calling me a faqqot moments before jumping in. Just. No. Yea hate this so much.
: I think your problem is that you think you can just play the game the same way every time and expect to win. This is simply not the case. If you think the enemy jungle is going to gank level 2, then be ready to counter it by positioning yourself in the right area at the right time. A lot of the early game jungle is about out thinking the opponent and countering their strategy. This is what frustrates me about silver junglers, they do not check the map and see an over aggressive top/mid that needs to be punished level 2/3.
> [{quoted}](name=A Real Troll,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XTg1yzRr,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-03-12T19:50:03.051+0000) > > I think your problem is that you think you can just play the game the same way every time and expect to win. This is simply not the case. If you think the enemy jungle is going to gank level 2, then be ready to counter it by positioning yourself in the right area at the right time. A lot of the early game jungle is about out thinking the opponent and countering their strategy. This is what frustrates me about silver junglers, they do not check the map and see an over aggressive top/mid that needs to be punished level 2/3. Your not wrong. I feel forced to ban {{champion:238}} every game because god forbid enemy team picks him into my mid. For some reason I didn't ban him that game so my {{champion:61}} was in a tough matchup. Then dies lvl 1 makes it even harder. But that's the tough part I guess. Like..... if it was me in that situation I know to just play back and waste Twitch time especially when I acknowledged my Jng telling me watch out for gank. Then I just chill and struggle even against a bad zed but meh I am bad at ori so w/e lol. Just annoying since some champs just generally snowball so hard in the avg game since they just easier to play early game than others. But you never know if your teammate is like knows their champ and the matchup in silver or if they just... auto push lane and hardly play the champ etc. etc. Like if everyone in the game was mid gold I wouldn't have really worried about the matchup or the gank because at that point people seem to start thinking some things through. But in silver people don't even know the basics of the game sometimes. Really hard to know how to read it. I mean.... obviously if I was just better I would hard carry most games and ultimately I just need to improve. But feel like I am almost over thinking shit at times in silver lol. Like in season 7 I used to try hard to come up with good paths and like balance my farm and I would literally watch enemy team jungelr walk over wards with me literally pinging them and my teammates just standing in land dying anyways lol. So then I just started doing that and it worked so fucking well lmfao. Like I hated that it worked that well... but it made ranking up some divs really easy. So not sure if I just need to rush ganks on the easiest lane to gank early and just farm when I don't have a good gank opportunity or what lol.
Rioter Comments
: "Are you the feeder Ashe from my last game?"
lol I am guilty of doing this not going to lie. Good job on the grind though keep it up! Silver is like.... a nightmare even people who are like diamond/plat bitch about it at least early in the season haha. I mean... I only ever reach like gold 3-4 so I am not that much better and I always struggle early on in season in silver as well. Just such a large random player population. Like you being newer maining one champ. Me... playing almost all roles and multiple champs at similar levels. Then there people who just... idk its just so many play styles. lots of trolls, lots of toxicity, lots of play styles. It's just such a random group of people every game its so damn hard to ever get a consistent feel going. Pretty much can only focus on yourself and do like you did and mute flammers. I will admit I haven't been focusing on myself lately, so I haven't really been climbing and been playing like shit. Plus I just switch roles and champs all the time lol. Just been bored of same shit every season I guess. Plus idk... I usually first main jungle to gold but.... I really dislike it. It's so..... just based on your teammates a lot idk... I just haven't had a good read on jungle since season 6 when you could literally just solo carry as jungle. Well... I guess eventually I had a good like... low gold level understanding of it and had some crazy as kdas in season 7 as well. But last two seasons I have just stopped giving a shit lol. I just get so bored when my bot lane like 0-6 0-8 at like 5 mins. So then I go main bot and now have a jungler who just is a tier worse skill than enemy jungler. Then I go mid and bot feeds insanely hard again. Just no consistency, which is why I hate just hate first few months of season. Its just fucking random and you can never trust anyone on your team to even know basics to the game. I really don't understand how other people rank up early season. Like.... there people who were like gold 5 last season... who get like gold 2-3 early season but hten end like gold 4-5. Idk if they just get lucky or what. But I get stuck like silver 1-2 for months lol.... but by end of season I can easily make like gold 2-3. And preseason I climb like a madman if I give a shit at all. But probably because other people care less and play random shit while early season people just spam op bullshit. Anyways. You doing the right thing. But idk... I mean low elo is low elo and solo queue is solo queue. People just going to troll/tilt sometimes. I personally don't really like seeing Ashe in my game since she so immobile but she can definitely work and I rather have someone play Ashe who knows how to play it than first timing like Vayne. So yea.... just focus on yourself, try to improve, mute people hell disable all chat. You will continue to climb if you continue to improve. - dude who has been bronze/silver/gold since season 2 haha. But just hasn't tried to improve since season 6 and is cool with being gold.
: Roll the dice.. Rank matching has worse odds than Vegas...
sadly it's the same every season. Match making is just shit. Like..... I get having to get better to rank up. I 100% know that and agree with it. My problem with the system is this. In at least 60% but generally higher # of my games I not only have to do well.... but like PUT THE TEAM ON MY FUCKING BACK carry. I just.... don't see why ranks can't be more even instead of this whole YOU EITHER CARRY OR LOSE THE GAME. Especially in a team game. I like that you can solo carry in League... but sucks that you almost forced to do it every game because the game can't match 10 almost evenly ranked players even in fucking silver lmfao. Its not even like.... doing ok in lane is fine because 1 or two of your teammates will feed an uncontrollable about in over half your games. To the point of just insanity. I just.... don't get how people can have their worst ever game..... like..... almost every game I play with them. I have 1 insanely bad game like.... once every 60? 70? 80? 100 games? Meanwhile in over half my games I have someone go like 1-12..... 2-13.... etc. etc. I just... don't understand how people can be this bad this often...... I get losing lane.... but feeding 10 kills in like 20 mins. How? The game been out for almost a decade.... how you still this dumb?
: you can actually just play fill if you don't want to play 5x the amount of games. and it will drastically reduce the amount of games u have to play..
> [{quoted}](name=MysticalFlow,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=se2GdPlK,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-02-21T18:10:51.392+0000) > > you can actually just play fill if you don't want to play 5x the amount of games. and it will drastically reduce the amount of games u have to play.. .............................................................. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}} ..................................................... What..... If you pick fill you will be playing 5x as many games. Literally picking roles is quickest way to rank up. I know... cuz I been playing fill llmfao. Can't believe you got upvotes no wonder no one takes these boards seriously.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Dukues,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=b5A48Q2l,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-16T18:00:08.742+0000) > > Has it really even helped though? I mean it is early season so match making always bad. But I haven't noticed at difference at all. Almost every game feels completely one sided. I get what they going for but unless people are prepared to play hundreds of games on each role it's never going to work out. And let's face it... even in high elo people aren't going to play hundreds of games in off roles for most part so its still not going to result in great match making. Just a longer climb for people who actually play more than one role. It is better than doing nothing. Eventually, players will play enough games for it to matter.
Not sure they will. Some will..... but there are a lot of players who don't play that much. More than you think actually.
: New ranked system has nothing to do with impressing anyone. It simply was to fix the fact that the community as a whole simply could not play all 5 roles well enough for the old system to work. Autofill games were unplayable because of skill level discrepancy so riot was forced to act. The new ranked system isn't necessarily good per say, the community was just too bad to make the old system work.
> [{quoted}](name=haaaaaaalp,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=b5A48Q2l,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-16T16:47:36.913+0000) > > New ranked system has nothing to do with impressing anyone. It simply was to fix the fact that the community as a whole simply could not play all 5 roles well enough for the old system to work. Autofill games were unplayable because of skill level discrepancy so riot was forced to act. > > The new ranked system isn't necessarily good per say, the community was just too bad to make the old system work. Has it really even helped though? I mean it is early season so match making always bad. But I haven't noticed at difference at all. Almost every game feels completely one sided. I get what they going for but unless people are prepared to play hundreds of games on each role it's never going to work out. And let's face it... even in high elo people aren't going to play hundreds of games in off roles for most part so its still not going to result in great match making. Just a longer climb for people who actually play more than one role.
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: Riot's bias towards Yasuo, Lucian etc. really annoys me.
{{champion:236}} was literally shit for almost an entire season not that long ago. Where you come up with this bullshit? {{champion:236}} & {{champion:157}} champs struggling with design flaws. In the hands of micro gods they are amazing. For the average player sometimes not so much. Obviously right now {{champion:236}} busted since he has very high win rate even In lower elos. But you can't pretend like {{champion:81}} hasn't be busted as used as much or as often as Lucian. And when their weak, it usually cuz Crit adcs killing it. Then you have months of {{champion:51}} {{champion:18}} tearing it up. And you forgot how long {{champion:21}} had a crazy high WR? {{champion:236}} fun to play and has a lot of mobility which you need in this day and age which is why he so popular even when his win rate lower. But there are other viable adcs. Not saying {{champion:236}} isn't busted right now, but pretending like he wasn't relevant for almost all of season either 8 or 7 (can't remember) is. He usually has high WR and then eventually gets nerfed into the ground and stays there for 8-12 months. Just like a lot of champs. Only problem with mechanical champs like him is really good players can make him good even when he weak while most players cant so it's hard for Riot to balance. {{champion:157}} just a terribly designed champ that should have never been released. He was finally weak for awhile which was nice but like you said with new items he back to being annoying as hell. It does suck but... its the way Riot designs champs these days. Their kits full and can do so much while immobile champs just sit there and take it.
Laura ß (NA)
: Gotta love that matchmaking Riot
uuuuuuugggggggggggggggggg I hate how fucking bad this match fuckng making is. I've played 4 games today. 3 of them hardcore stomps. 1 good 1. And im fucking tilted now because lost 3 in a row and 2 were unwinnable. How the fuck are these people my "same rank". I am not going to pretend to be good at this fucking game..... but these fucking kids are so damn bad like wtf. You can't even do anything but play for yourself because team always going to let you down. But you keep forcing the game to 5v5 so we actually have to give a shit about our teammates. Problem is.... 1 can easily lose the other 4 the game its so fucking dumb.
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Dukues (NA)
: What happened to prior rank armor?
New silver borders look even more than normal. So.... thanks for that! Really excited about having a shittier border because season been going for 2-3 weeks and ours ranks drop due to soft reset and haven't had enough time to climb :). Thanks guys over at Riot! This is such a great change! {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
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: Riot is trying to do new things with ranked and I think that's good. They're trying to make ranked a better experience for people and a lot of it is just experimentation this season. I think it's a good thing that there are splits because it actually gives people rewards to work for througout the season instead of just the end of the season rewards. If you're really worried about wanting people to notice your hard earned rank, just stop being a baby and work your way back to it. It's that simple. If you are really the rank you say you are, it shouldn't be difficult. Most people got placed one rank lower than they were because of the new ranks, myself included. The season just started and I'm already back to where I was before. You know what's better than bragging about reaching a certain rank last season? Doing it again and maybe climbing higher.
> [{quoted}](name=PhantomxDrive,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=dO2oZMaY,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-02-07T03:56:40.973+0000) > > Riot is trying to do new things with ranked and I think that's good. They're trying to make ranked a better experience for people and a lot of it is just experimentation this season. I think it's a good thing that there are splits because it actually gives people rewards to work for througout the season instead of just the end of the season rewards. If you're really worried about wanting people to notice your hard earned rank, just stop being a baby and work your way back to it. It's that simple. If you are really the rank you say you are, it shouldn't be difficult. Most people got placed one rank lower than they were because of the new ranks, myself included. The season just started and I'm already back to where I was before. You know what's better than bragging about reaching a certain rank last season? Doing it again and maybe climbing higher. "it shouldn't be difficult". I mean you're right. Problem is.... it's the beginning of the season. And beginning of the season is literally a beyond cluster fuck of bullshit to have to play. So no... it's not exactly "easy". And people who say it is generally get extremely lucky and have no idea how bad it can get. I have been one of the "lucky" ones before where I got even matched games and shit felt ok and I ranked up quick. But last 2-3 seasons ranked been a nightmare. So no... it's not exactly "easy". Dumbest part is you hardly even play ranked... so you don't even know what we talking about so now I regret even writing this.
Sakowitz (NA)
: Riot. Give Us Our Ranked Borders Back.
I think the dumb part is having the change so soon after season start especially when everyone drops ranks. I get why they don't want to wait for season end to hand out rewards anymore since you could potentially be waiting 10 months for rewards if you go up a new tier or two or w/e. But I am with you I think it was a dumb change. I think it would be better if they waited at least until first split was done and then gave out new borders after every split instead of having it dynamic. Now maybe... that's too much programming or too much work. In that case I still think they should have at least waited until after first split before dynamic borders came into effect. 3 months would at least be a decent amount of time to get back to your old rank or even rank up. But 3 weeks... is insane........ not to mention only a small fraction of players have even played their placements yet... I get what Riot trying to do they just always fuck up implementing changes lmao. I really don't get why they so bad at implementing new potentially great ideas. But yea... I hate silver borders so damn much I really don't even feel like playing the game right now because of it. I would really be pissed if I say got gold or plat or diamond, etc. for the first time in say last like April and then waited 8 months to get that new border only to have it ripped away 2 months later lmfao. Luckily (or unluckily) for me I have been shit at the game forever but at least manage to make gold finally in season 6 so I've had gold border for awhile so it wasn't 100% new to me. But I am still salty about it cuz.... I was stuck silver forever and hated that damn border every season and now I have one again for no apparent reason other than Riot a bunch of dumb dumbs.
: I severely dislike the new ranked system
yea it's a crap system. It definitely could benefit newer players or certain elo players where like change in skill really matters. I phrased that werid... basically a decent amount of player population could potentially benefit from new system but I ultimately think more do not. Like for me.... I have played the game since season 1. Yea (im low rank I know). But for me... this system adds nothing. I have ranked multiple accounts up to same rank using different roles. I have mained diferent roles, I am not a high enough elo (like a majority of players) for it to really matter. So all this system does is make more grinding for me. Really for most vets who started playing back when you had to learn every role to potentially rank up. Or really just annoying who is same skill at multiple roles regardless of elo. Even for others it does suck cuz autofill or playing other roles don't go to your main rank if you win, but also don't get a loss if you lose. I think it really only benefits people who hardcore only play one role and like 1-2 champs well. Pretty much screws everyone else over. Obviously there some exceptions but it definitely more of a grind for no reason. It can help newer players or people who are much better at 1 role than other roles. But I would argue that's not really great for the game. Because ultimately not enough people are going to play enough games to get their "actual" rank in all roles so it really won't change mming that much. Maybe in like plat + it will.... but for like 90% of player population games going to feel just a shitty as normal, but with more of a grind.
GoryRage (NA)
: This ranked season feels like its a waste of time.
Yea new system pretty crap. Game been complete crap overall since preseason 8. I feel like it's at least better now than preseason 8... but new system kinda fucks the "improvements" they made. Game hasn't felt competitive in years. I mean... arranged 5v5 does but that's all the game balanced around these days. But.... clash hardly ever fucking up.... so wtf the point. Yea... pro scene cool... but doesn't help that playing solo/queue & norms... you know... what made the game feels crap to play. Best fucking part is there adding new borders now too so you don't have to wait to get season rewards. Which... yea sounds cool UNTIL YOU REALIZE IT'S FUCKING ONLY BEEN WHAT? 3? WEEKS SINCE SEASON STARTS. uGG..... SO HAPPY to be back to having an shittier border for no fucking reason just like most people playing ranked currently. Or not playing it.... cuz it shit. It's so fucking shit and now we getting punished for not playing it.
: quality of games in bronze/silver elo
Cool to hear higher elo people at least mention what a nightmare it is. Honestly, it's a lot worse at the start of the season and I always struggle with it. Last season I let it really bother me and I got stuck for a long time.... also got my first chat restrict on this account and I've been playing since season 1. Ranked was starting to get to me again but took a step back few days ago and just remembered it early season and that I am not going pro in the game so my rank really doesn't matter. I just need to try and have fun and if I am not then I should do something else. Anyways, it gets better later in the season. People get closer to their actual ranks, less smurfs, less people coming off breaks. People have better read of meta.... idk it just isn't as terrible as first few months are. I mean... I really hate climbing through silver but it generally not too terrible later in the season.
: This is the most toxic season and it's barely been a month
it's the start of the season effect. Literally the same every season to be honest. Guess you just fortunate to not have experienced it yet.... but I have experienced it almost every season. Just have to accept it.
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: I mean assuming placements go alright, you basically place right where you left off during pre-season.
> [{quoted}](name=Getowned212,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=8sVyEEQ5,comment-id=00280000,timestamp=2019-01-31T20:56:27.412+0000) > > I mean assuming placements go alright, you basically place right where you left off during pre-season. True I just feel like 1 patch is a little too quick. Give us like 2-3 months and I am fine with it. I know what it's like to wait 8 months to get your season reward when you move up a tier and that's not fun but.... fuck man going to the other extreme is also not a great idea. Don't see why it so hard for them to just do shit logically instead of to one extreme or the other.
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