93Lobo (NA)
: Yet another text wall you probably spent the last 10 to 20 mins writing. I've seen all the text walls you've written on this thread. I remember seeing you saying "Imagine being a kid getting out of school and logging into the League forum to down vote my thread and log into alts, its sad" This is way sadder.
I mean i've read & posted on these boards for like 6 years and never seen a post get to 31 positive votes in a couple hours and then an hour or 2 later go just below 0 just so it won't show up in spotlight anymore. Was suspect as fuck. LIke I said though never really assumed this post would get attention but I had a lot of vets say how they agree with me about the game and that felt good. Then of course there are the new less intelligent players cough cough.... but they were expected. Anyways you should probably focus more on actually playing the game than arguing with me hehe. Seems like you have a lot to learn get to it!
93Lobo (NA)
: I'm sick of talking to you. I don't want to read or write endless paragraphs analyzing every inch of the others argument. it's not gonna get anywhere. You have already shown yourself to be nothing more than a troll so talking to someone with that kind of personality isn't gonna solve anything. Every year you write the same message whining at Riot that you are gonna quit. Passive aggressively threatening a company. Like they care about you. Didn't about Donkey, Ohm, or many other streamers that were originally part of the company and they definitely wont about you. I'm not going to insult you and my argument has never been about that. What I expect from you is to do what you've been saying for years. Leave and don't look back unless you finally feel like your mental state is refreshed enough to enjoy the game. I'd give the same advice to all you "Veteran" league players. You staying and writing this cry-threads is just adding another level of toxic to the game. Have some respect for yourself and stop embarrassing yourself yearly with these threads. I won't even bother reading your text wall of back talk. Its annoying I've wasted this much time on someone who only wants to live in the past.
Your original comment is literally attacking me as someone who is only writing this out of nostalgia and saying me & others are wrong. You then proceed to give no examples of how I am wrong and the examples you give I disprove. Now your saying you don't want to talk when you literally wrote a wall of text on a post "you don't care about". Looking over your match history you play like 1 game a week...... You would have to play for 20 years or more to play as many games of League I have. My point is..... you have hardly played this game but yet saying I am wrong in my judgments of Riot and this game and when I prove you haven't played enough to know you get defensive lol. I don't think you have thick enough skin to play this game if you are this easily offended. I played League from the start this version of league toxicity is way down haha your words do nothing to me. I only annoyed because you act "tough" talking about how I clearly must not know how to "play safe in lane" and whatever other annoying shit you repeat from streamers. But yet you clearly don't play the game and if I laned against you I would make you realize you don't have a chance no matter where you went on the map I would destroy you. Yet through all of this you tell me I and others are wrong in our judgement of what the game has become. I made posts in the past because I was annoyed and angry and knew this is where the game was heading. I made this post because I have finally accepted it and am ready to move on and just wanted Riot to maybe understand why even though they ultimately won't care. Although I have supported this company for most of my gaming time..... something you and all these other zoomers joining the game don't have the finances to do. So actually.... losing me is like losing hundreds of you 1 game a week zoomers lmfao. So yes... I actually do think they would care a bit of what I have to say over you.
93Lobo (NA)
: First of all of course the game is more complex they add in more champions with different kits and just this preseason alone the jungle is entirely different. I never said that other seasons were complete shit you are putting words in my mouth. You can interprut my words in any way you want but what I said was that you YOU nostalgia trippers are always harping on what season was better and how they should go back to this and that. It was a far cry from saying another season was shit. Insult your own intelligence not mine. The point of my argument was you NOSTALGIA trippers are always complaining about how every new champion comes out broken. YES yes they do. And guess what the older champions are the ones that are the most broken. I wasn't complaining about broken champion. Get your facts right. Yeah I've played ranked. And do it on a pc that doesn't even meet minimum requirements and still can play the game and enjoy it. But I have to listen to you Nostolgia trippers complain about every single aspect of the game one way or another. Wth does a must pick ban rate have to do with our argument? Items you have to build on champs? Yeah i know it. Everyone does your not special. "The game is not more complex now" Followed by a comparison of exactly how much the games has changed "The game used to be slightly slower paced and you would actually have to poke people in lanes before just auto killing them with a quick combo & ignite even pre 6. I like that league is fast paced but it's just stupid now. Baron used to actually take time and effort to kill now its 3 manable by 20 mins easily." Yeah the game isn't more complex. Sounds like someone is inting and doesn't know how to play safe. Yeah it is telling how all the old heads sound exactly alike. All nostalgia tripping over one season or another. Why? cause the game changes. Aski one old head and then ask another and they'd say two different seasons were better than the other. But all join hands against the current. You are just making my case for me. What is that other than Nostalgia? Yes its nostalgia literally?! Why did they bring it back? Cause they (the original players) wanted what they were used to. Get over it. The game has changed. You sound like a broken record. New players don't know old League nor do we care. Do i play ranked, do I know item builds, do i know must bans at high elo, do i know this bit info do i know that? Your argument is irrelevant cause guess what high elo is the top 10% the majority of the player base isn't the top 10% and Riot can't just make the game just to make them happy. Those only interested in casual play won't be able to enjoy the game at all at that rate. The only ones complaining about ranked are the Nostalgia trippers. No I enjoy League, I play league, I like the changing meta, I enjoy that the game gets constantly updated and you have to view patch notes to be good. Knowing the other champions kits and not being brain dead. You might be tired but I don't care. Stop harassing the developers about not trying to stay the same as they were 10 years ago. Don't trip others up cause you bask in Nostalgia. Just leave if you don't enjoy the game, meta, characters, etc...
> [{quoted}](name=93Lobo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=j5q9QEx6,comment-id=001100000000,timestamp=2019-12-06T18:25:36.824+0000) > > First of all of course the game is more complex they add in more champions with different kits and just this preseason alone the jungle is entirely different. I never said that other seasons were complete shit you are putting words in my mouth. You can interprut my words in any way you want but what I said was that you YOU nostalgia trippers are always harping on what season was better and how they should go back to this and that. It was a far cry from saying another season was shit. Insult your own intelligence not mine. > Meh for a lot of people already know most champs adding more hasn't made it that much more difficult. Only due to their broken kits is what has made it more difficult. Your newness is showing. They literally make big changes to the jungle EVERY SEASON. For a long time now this is not new at all and is always expected. It's not nostalgia it's just fact. > The point of my argument was you NOSTALGIA trippers are always complaining about how every new champion comes out broken. YES yes they do. And guess what the older champions are the ones that are the most broken. I wasn't complaining about broken champion. Get your facts right. > I really don't know what your saying here. New champions kits are way more overloaded than a lot of old champions kits were. If you are talking bugs..... well hate to tell you this but all champions even new ones still have an insane number of bugs. League is a bug filled game. > Yeah the game isn't more complex. Sounds like someone is inting and doesn't know how to play safe. > Nice quote of streamers not actually understanding what "inting' is lmfao. Also playing safe is not much of an option these days as it used to be. But again you would know that if you actually knew what you were talking about. God I don't even know why you pretend like you know more than me about this game lol it's actually quite annoying. > Yeah it is telling how all the old heads sound exactly alike. All nostalgia tripping over one season or another. Why? cause the game changes. Aski one old head and then ask another and they'd say two different seasons were better than the other. But all join hands against the current. You are just making my case for me. What is that other than Nostalgia? > The thing is none of the other seasons & metas overall mattered until season 8. That's when the game completely changed focus. I have described it but it was more changes than just damage creep. Doesn't matter talking to you about it you haven't played before it so you don't know how great the game was before season 8. Although season 7 was a pretty lame meta because jungle catch up xp was first introduced & the item Ardent censor but was super op at the time. That's one season I feel like those two changes alone effected the game so much that made it pretty boring but I would still take season 7 league over current league any day. > New players don't know old League nor do we care. Do i play ranked, do I know item builds, do i know must bans at high elo, do i know this bit info do i know that? Your argument is irrelevant cause guess what high elo is the top 10% the majority of the player base isn't the top 10% and Riot can't just make the game just to make them happy. Those only interested in casual play won't be able to enjoy the game at all at that rate. The only ones complaining about ranked are the Nostalgia trippers. > If you think high elo is top 10% then I have some bad news for you. Also..... the game has literally been built around high elo for years now. It started focus around season 3? I believe. Maybe 4 idk it's been a long time Riot has been focusing more on balancing around high elo & the pros than the rest of the population. One reason solo queue is beyond annoying to play these days. > No I enjoy League, I play league, I like the changing meta, I enjoy that the game gets constantly updated and you have to view patch notes to be good. Knowing the other champions kits and not being brain dead. > I mean I am fine with that. But changes to overall gameplay to make it something it's not is what has made the game extremely boring for people who played it before overall gameplay changes were made. I am fine with them making small changes or changes that make sense. Season 8 was literally an entire preseason the entire season and the lasting affects are still in the game and will never be removed. > You might be tired but I don't care. Stop harassing the developers about not trying to stay the same as they were 10 years ago. > > Don't trip others up cause you bask in Nostalgia. Just leave if you don't enjoy the game, meta, characters, etc... I mean that's literally what I am doing just giving my 2 cents before I got. Not sure how this offends your noob ass but apparently it does. The devs should take notes though as what I am talking about is what helped make League the most popular free to play game in the world. And now it's becoming less popular so..... maybe they don't have all the answers? Same as Blizzard with WoW.
: Removing TT is what killed it for me. I may still mess around now and then but I am no longer playing on a regular basis nor spending any money on the game since Riot keeps seeing fit to remove or dramatically alter everything I've ever liked about the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Tahngarthor,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=j5q9QEx6,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2019-12-06T03:08:19.331+0000) > > Removing TT is what killed it for me. I may still mess around now and then but I am no longer playing on a regular basis nor spending any money on the game since Riot keeps seeing fit to remove or dramatically alter everything I've ever liked about the game. I know a lot of people who loved TT myself included. Sadly for me after they added rank flex I lost interest. It was cool it was easier to play rank 3s but they just...... NEVER MADE ANY CHANGES EVER TO IT which is actually what ruined it for me. Especially when you went into ranked it was just the same meta for 3 or whatever seasons even before that but yea idk. Just made me get sick of 3s. But I am still beyond sad they removed the map instead of actually just making a few changes to give it a new feel.
93Lobo (NA)
: I'm a relatively new player. Started in 2017 after playing Dota2 for a few months (my first moba). I played LOL for about 2 to 3 months after that by then it'd had turned into early 2018. I left until late 2018 around October and have played since. So effectively this is the first season I've really experienced. Every since I've been in this community I've been seeing the same type of people who make the community an extra type of toxic. Nostalgia trippers. These are players that have been playing for the majority of the games history and now find everything wrong with the game compared to when it was in its prime. This Prime usually goes back to when the game was simpler, had champs coming out every month or every few weeks in some cases. And were usually inconsistent in power levels. I've watched many of old videos on how broken other seasons have been. Items over powered making the game unplayable. The champions they pushed out either under-powered, buggy or overpowered. Lol is a complex game and it has gotten more complex over the years apparently. This nostalgia trippers brains are filled with information on every season and their brain and emotions are tired. You all should take a break its not good to constanly fill other peoples heads with this non-sense especially since you seem to do this kind of post every year. They complain and talk about the good ol days. And how league is dead. LEAGUE IS SO DEAD! Meanwhile over 80 million players are playing everyday... Old players coming back, new players picking up and dropping it. Its an endless cycle. No one will miss you when you're gone from this community. I'd prefer it if you and those like you left or shut up. I'm sick of streamers saying the same thing. This is broken. Man season 3, 4, 6 was so much better. Yeah lets go back to the 3 yrs Fiora didn't get a single change besides minor updates... I'd really like a Yas that wasn't good. Apparently he was weak when he came out. Champions come out broken? Of course, the majority don't go on PBE and learn how to play the champion so they don't know how to play them so to make them competitive they overpower them and nerf them overtime. Ban them or just dodge its not hurting you either way.
You literally just admitted to being a new player and this is your first season. How are you going to tell someone who has played the game SINCE SEASON 1! that the game is now "more complex" and old seasons were just complete shit? How the hell would you know? You obviously wouldn't and don't. I like hearing your perspective but calling me & other vets nostalgia trippers is sooooooooooo fucking dumb and shows how ignorant you are. "broken champs and items" you do realize we still have that all 10 fold right? Lmfao.... have you even played ranked yet? You know there are must pick/ban champs right? Especially at high elo? Items you have to builid on champs? That's literally always been League and that will never change young cub lol. The game is not more complex now. It's literally "I have to like my 3-4 combo b4 other person does so they die before me". It's as simple as "o this dude is cc'd all focus & instant kill them even a tank". The game used to be slightly slower paced and you would actually have to poke people in lanes before just auto killing them with a quick combo & ignite even pre 6. I like that league is fast paced but it's just stupid now. Baron used to actually take time and effort to kill now its 3 manable by 20 mins easily. "I watched a few old vids". Cool man.... I PLAYED THOSE! Lol .... I feel like it's pretty damn telling that 90% of actual old school players I talk to feel a similar way to me. It's more than just nostalgia. Let me ask you this as well. Why is WoW classic doing so well and private servers doing so well compared to Battle For Azeroth??????? Is it just nostalgia?....... Or is it the fact that the original games and first couple expansions were just way fucking better than the Piece of shit they call BFA now? A lot of great games start off great but overtime get pushed making too many changes. I get you need to stay "up to date" to draw in new crowd. But a lot of these games lose their core values and self along the way. New league compared to old league is 100% the same as old WoW verse new WoW. It just sucks seeing what it's become and it saddens me. But I have had my playtime out of it so I no longer need to care. Happy you enjoying it and hope you continue to play. But don't fucking tell me what I lost when you never played it originally. That's just ignorant and bullshit.
mark6028 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=ixi Josh Sand,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=j5q9QEx6,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2019-12-05T19:41:23.408+0000) > > No game is perfect. The OP isnt expecting that from league. Hes expecting that the game doesn't change in ways that make it less fun. > > Yea millions of players play LoL, just like millions of players play WoW, and CoD, etc. But that doesnt change the fact that the games been getting worse over time. > > I dont know what growth league has had overall, but I do know that I had 6 RL friends that I played LoL with for 5 or 6 years, and now they are gone with no interest at all in returning. > > I cant say for sure if LoL is gaining new players at the same rate that its been losing them, but I can say for sure that I personally dont try to get others to play it, because it just isnt fun. > > If the OP wants to give feedback on how terrible he thinks the game is, thats his right. And if the devs want to continue ignoring feedback like his, thats their right too. > > Honestly, its all moot, because the designers obv dont give a shit about the current game state - probably because the remianing MOBA market is complete dog shit, and Riot doesnt need to worry about players jumping ship for something newer and shinier. League has been progressively dying. What you see here is just the natural cycle of new players who never knew the actual great days of league. Autistic kits led to the game by flashy akali oneshotting everyone with zero counterplay giving a false sense of skill because they managed to press their buttons. Back when you actually had mana and cooldowns to manage. When missing a hook on thresh actually meant you were useless for some time and not got to try it again 3 seconds later. When fail using a full combo on a mage meant you were oom now ryze after tear just EQ EQ EQ EQ for ten minutes. This game is so pathetically shit and the player numbers show. NA barely reaches the 1 million mark in ranked. Euw used to have over 6 million ranked players and only barely breaks two millions anymore. Sure those are still big numbers other games can only dream of BUT compared to what league USED to be it's actually frightening how fast the new developers managed to grind this game into the dirt in a third of the time league took to get as big as it was. S5 was the height, S6 the downfall began. S7 was when leagues fate was sealed and it's just been a slow downward spiral ever since then. Ardent meta showed the true incompetence and unwillingness of these new devs who seem to blackmail their CEOs or something. I can't find another reason to pay them literally thousands per month for absolutely doing jackshit. Just doing nothing at all. Just look at this preseason, they treat it like another holiday month for years now. They implement shit and never look back at it again. Where are the promises that are actually over two years old now that the keystone system is progressing, with runes getting removed and new runes being added. Nothing changed, the same shit is still broken, the same shit is still useless. Stopwatch has been ruining the game since its inception and nothing is done about it. Basically none of the veterans who cared about this game are left on these boards. Only new players praising akali, jungle design and all the other OP shit because it makes them feel like they are good players. Same reason riot giga boosted everyone a tier above last season so people "feel" good. Now the game is a gigantic clusterfuck where every game is a literal coinflip of who has more armless people. Plat and diamond gameplay is such a disgrace. Master+ still has d5s holding onto it shits insane. Nothing done, never talked about just ignore any criticism, problem and feedback. China still makes money for league so we keep going.
Amen. These "new" players or just players pretending? to be vets can tell me I am wrong about how the game used to be but they're the pretenders. They act like the game never being in perfect balance somehow disregards how much better past seasons actually were. When in reality the game has never been and never will be perfectly balanced. Only difference is now the overall gameplay is just much much shittier.
Magikrap (NA)
: I'm so happy Halo has come out. My friends are finally playing a good game again instead of this trash. The game used to be amazing, but the devs have done absolutely but nothing but negative changes since season 4. For every new champ that I enjoy, one of my old champs got reworked aka removed from the game. Not to mention most of the new champs/reworks are toxic af and degrade the quality of any game they are in {{champion:84}} {{champion:142}} {{champion:82}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:114}}{{champion:235}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:28}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:518}} {{champion:13}} {{champion:517}} {{champion:246}} {{champion:350}}
> [{quoted}](name=Magikrap,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=j5q9QEx6,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2019-12-05T21:09:21.658+0000) > > I'm so happy Halo has come out. My friends are finally playing a good game again instead of this trash. The game used to be amazing, but the devs have done absolutely but nothing but negative changes since season 4. For every new champ that I enjoy, one of my old champs got reworked aka removed from the game. Not to mention most of the new champs/reworks are toxic af and degrade the quality of any game they are in > {{champion:84}} {{champion:142}} {{champion:82}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:114}}{{champion:235}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:28}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:518}} {{champion:13}} {{champion:517}} {{champion:246}} {{champion:350}} Halo 2 & 3 were my jam especially Halo 3. I fucking loved halo 3 in HIgh School I played it so much. It was actually one of the games I was probably best at too. Like not General good but unless I played some of the top ranked players I would shit on people. Average players had nothing on me was so fun. But yea Good players did still kick my butt haha but anyways was fun times. Even had some lan party huge parties for it in high school was so fun.
Dukues (NA)
: It's Been a Fun Decade Riot but I am Finally Out
lmfao not that I expected this post to get much attention to begin with buy holy hell finally witnessed people messing with posts. Last I checked like 1-2 hours ago I was at 31 more up votes than down votes. Now says score of -2 lmfao. Good job yall logging onto alts lmfao. That and kids must of gotten out of school. Ah well I see I touched a lot of vets as well who feel the same way and that means a lot to me to know I am not alone. I can't even imagine getting home from school and checking League forums..... what a depressing childhood. Come on kids either play games or meetup with friends why you wasting time on shit boards like Leagues lol just sad.
: You still didnt address my comment. The Boards are like customer service. Only people who dislike the service will call customer service or come onto the Boards. You literally have complained about the game for 3 years. How are you having fun?
> [{quoted}](name=MrSîsterFister,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=j5q9QEx6,comment-id=00080002000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-05T20:46:15.879+0000) > > You still didnt address my comment. The Boards are like customer service. Only people who dislike the service will call customer service or come onto the Boards. > > You literally have complained about the game for 3 years. How are you having fun? It's true game hasn't been fun for me since season 6. To me season 6 was fun regardless of dynamic queue. Even for it's flaws it did make the game kind of interesting. But forgetting dynamic queue for a second I think it's truly the last time the game has been somewhat balanced. Granted jungle was op but other lanes still felt ok. But yea season 7 I stopped playing after getting back to gold since I hated what they did with jungle. Season 8 I just beyond hated but stuck with it hoping I would eventually enjoy it. I didn't hate season 9 but after some time off and self reflection I realize I didn't actually enjoy it either. And season 10 looks less fun already than other seasons which is why I think it's a good time for me to peace out. Still don't understand how this changes how you feel about the game or why you care so much but hey.... you do you.
: Go post this same post on Reddit you’ll get 10 comments telling you that you’re bad and 0 upvotes. No one even read your post bro. Boards will upvote any trash that says “riot sucks”. Also, lata. Thank god. I hope you finally quit.
> [{quoted}](name=TehBromato,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=j5q9QEx6,comment-id=000800020001,timestamp=2019-12-05T20:31:53.493+0000) > > Go post this same post on Reddit you’ll get 10 comments telling you that you’re bad and 0 upvotes. > > No one even read your post bro. Boards will upvote any trash that says “riot sucks”. > > Also, lata. Thank god. I hope you finally quit. Happy I quit so I don't stomp you in ranked/norms anymore or what? lol. Idk man.... I feel like taking advice from a dude named Bromato probably not wise lol {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
: No, you’re 100% wrong. The boards is 90% negativety, 10% positivety. People only go on the Boards to complain, so its not an accurate measure of how many people actually like/hate the game. You only hate the fame since youre hard stuck silver for pretty mich ur entire league career.
> [{quoted}](name=MrSîsterFister,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=j5q9QEx6,comment-id=000800020000,timestamp=2019-12-05T20:26:57.352+0000) > > No, you’re 100% wrong. The boards is 90% negativety, 10% positivety. People only go on the Boards to complain, so its not an accurate measure of how many people actually like/hate the game. > > You only hate the fame since youre hard stuck silver for pretty mich ur entire league career. lol wtf haha. 1. Who cares about rank when the game is fun? 2. I've been gold + last 4 seasons and really at the end of season 5 as well. But irregardless not exactly most of my league career. Considering I didn't play ranked in season 1 and that lasted over 2 years. But honestly I don't even care if I was hard stuck silver these days at least when I was in silver I found the game fun. Doesn't matter what rank I am now I still wouldn't enjoy it so really don't get your point lol
: It is tragic what runes reforged has done to the early game, enabling burst champs to be far less risky.
> [{quoted}](name=Power Cosmic,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=j5q9QEx6,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-12-05T20:18:52.778+0000) > > It is tragic what runes reforged has done to the early game, enabling burst champs to be far less risky. Yea it's crazy people act like {{champion:238}} being able to instant kill you form full health at level 3 was normal years ago because of buffed ignite & electrocute proc. I mean I got used to champions doing more burst but I still deep down have never enjoyed it. I missed feeling like I was in an actual battle rather than who can one shot the other team the fastest contest
: I’ve been playing since season 2 and I feel the same way. I’m reaching a point where I’m basically done and don’t care what they do anymore. I like the champions and that’s what keeps me around, but I hate the new champions. I really want them to update the art and do minor kit work on older champions, but that won’t ever happen. The small rework on Diana is a half arsed excuse to not work on her model. Riot has released more new champions than they are working on what we already love. I’m tired of champions going invisible, phasing through walls, doing massive amounts of damage, is untargetable, and more. I’m done. The champions they should be working on her ignored for a new champion or a new champion rework. None of these Developers understand their community and doesn’t want to work on the problems. They want to make as much money off of us and be in the business of ignoring problems. Who cares anymore. If you don’t go anymore than there is no point in playing.
> [{quoted}](name=Deathfall,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=j5q9QEx6,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-12-05T18:49:36.161+0000) > > I’ve been playing since season 2 and I feel the same way. I’m reaching a point where I’m basically done and don’t care what they do anymore. I like the champions and that’s what keeps me around, but I hate the new champions. I really want them to update the art and do minor kit work on older champions, but that won’t ever happen. The small rework on Diana is a half arsed excuse to not work on her model. Riot has released more new champions than they are working on what we already love. I’m tired of champions going invisible, phasing through walls, doing massive amounts of damage, is untargetable, and more. I’m done. The champions they should be working on her ignored for a new champion or a new champion rework. None of these Developers understand their community and doesn’t want to work on the problems. They want to make as much money off of us and be in the business of ignoring problems. Who cares anymore. If you don’t go anymore than there is no point in playing. Yea man I feel ya. I feel like it's become beyond obvious how focused the game is on getting money now and it has really hurt my perception of it and just the gameplay overall. I have always loved league even in seasons where maybe I didn't love the meta, but I still loved the core game. But I don't really even like the core game anymore, which has caused me to lose interest in the game.
: You may find your way back eventually. League always hit it the sweet spot other mobas couldn't for me. I tried hots for a while but the characters all felt like wet noodles and large parts of the game felt insignificant. I do really like their multi map system. I wish league would adapt that rather than only Sr ... Especially since they refuse to reorient the perspective I do agree with new champs feeling more and more bloated. I think Senna needs a kit rework before people get too comfortable and attached to her In any case there are plenty of great games to try. Celeste is you want a platforming challenge. Baba is you for a great puzzler. Really too many to name. I've also discovered a ton of old favs on GoG. Heroes of might and magic 3 is still an amazing experience
> [{quoted}](name=Żügżwäng,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=j5q9QEx6,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-12-05T18:52:04.545+0000) > > You may find your way back eventually. League always hit it the sweet spot other mobas couldn't for me. > I tried hots for a while but the characters all felt like wet noodles and large parts of the game felt insignificant. I do really like their multi map system. I wish league would adapt that rather than only Sr ... Especially since they refuse to reorient the perspective > > I do agree with new champs feeling more and more bloated. I think Senna needs a kit rework before people get too comfortable and attached to her > > In any case there are plenty of great games to try. Celeste is you want a platforming challenge. > Baba is you for a great puzzler. > Really too many to name. I've also discovered a ton of old favs on GoG. Heroes of might and magic 3 is still an amazing experience It is true honestly I haven't found another Moba I enjoy like League. Granted a lot of them I haven't given much of a chance. The most I have played is HoTs but I just get bored of it really quickly I hate how everyone shares xp and there's no farming and just always focusing team objectives. League is fun working with teammates as I like that team work is encouraged. But I also liked that feel of being a solo player you could really impact the game regardless of how bad your teammates are doing. You obviously still can it just harder these days it seems and feels different. I feel like league is just becoming a similar version of other mobas I don't enjoy. I am definitely sick of mobas though I played a shit ton of Dota on Warcraft and a shit ton of League. I would like to finally give this game up as I have just spent so much time on it. But it has always held a special place in my heart that has brought me back. It may still again but right now this is the least I have ever cared about League in my life after I started playing it daily 9-10 years ago.
: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-discussion/56yth3iG-just-an-fyi-why-i-am-out-riot https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/1EyJlU7t-guess-i-have-to-quit https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/BgfBlb33-and-thats-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin I'll give you this. At least you're consistent. For three years, the same "I quit" bullshit topics. Word to the wise, people might take your points more seriously if you... A: Didn't cry wolf every couple months and actually left the game B: Didn't feel the need to threaten/act like you're going to quit to get your point across To be frank, no one cares if you quit or stop playing the game. Millions of people love the game the way it is and play it everyday. It's not perfect but it never was or will be. There will always be things that are not balanced or irk some people about the current style. There's plenty of other games beside this one and if you want to stop playing this one altogether there is nothing wrong with that. The world will keep going. This game will keep going. But cut the melodramatic BS and just find something better to do with your time.
> [{quoted}](name=OneMustFall,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=j5q9QEx6,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-12-05T18:55:24.771+0000) > > https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-discussion/56yth3iG-just-an-fyi-why-i-am-out-riot > https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/1EyJlU7t-guess-i-have-to-quit > https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/BgfBlb33-and-thats-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin > > I'll give you this. At least you're consistent. For three years, the same "I quit" bullshit topics. Word to the wise, people might take your points more seriously if you... > > A: Didn't cry wolf every couple months and actually left the game > > B: Didn't feel the need to threaten/act like you're going to quit to get your point across > > To be frank, no one cares if you quit or stop playing the game. Millions of people love the game the way it is and play it everyday. It's not perfect but it never was or will be. There will always be things that are not balanced or irk some people about the current style. There's plenty of other games beside this one and if you want to stop playing this one altogether there is nothing wrong with that. The world will keep going. This game will keep going. But cut the melodramatic BS and just find something better to do with your time. True but honestly the fact people up voting this means others feel the same. These posts have always been down voted into oblivion in the past. Anyways don't matter just hoping in an off chance an actual Riot employee reads this they know why someone who has played their game for so long no longer enjoys it. To the rest especially the people who just use the same stupid "k bye" comments I really could care less what they think. Those are the people I hate playing with anyways and probably instant mute in game lol.
: > 2. **Runes Reforged/**Damage Creep**** Look I tried... I really did. Although I hated season 8 after runes reforged released I kept playing. I actually enjoyed season 9 for a long time but after taking roughly 3 months off I have to be honest with myself. I still absolutely hate where damage has gone in this game and just don't find it close to as fun before runes reforged happened. Granted, I think season 7 kinda sucked as well but that was for different reasons. ill be honest, people complain about damage, but it has always been like this, excluding a few seasons. I remember how in S1-2 I aced enemy teams 1v5 with AP yi. I remember when I oneshot ppl with AP sion. I remember when nidalee's spear had cait Q's hitbox and did 50% hp damage. There was always tons of damage in league.
> [{quoted}](name=Idgaf I am iron,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=j5q9QEx6,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-12-05T18:11:03.239+0000) > > ill be honest, people complain about damage, but it has always been like this, excluding a few seasons. I remember how in S1-2 I aced enemy teams 1v5 with AP yi. I remember when I oneshot ppl with AP sion. I remember when nidalee's spear had cait Q's hitbox and did 50% hp damage. > > There was always tons of damage in league. I remember there being a few broken builds like the ones you mention but not every champ in the game being a different level of assassin. Back then armor actually did something and tanks were tanks, bruisers were bruisers assassins were assassins etc. People act like a few broken champs/builds made the entire season useless. When a majority of the time any season there's broken champs & builds. It's just now the game play is way more boring and less strategic. I remember before season 8 I could walk into 3 man team of people even half a tier lower rank than me and win the 1v3 assuming I had some sort of lead. Or just run circles around lower rank players even with shit mechanics. But now you have to play it perfectly or you just get instantly deleted. CC is still same length of time as back when the game wasn't so heavily damage creeped. CC now basically means instant death if you are focused by more than 1 person. Back int he day it meant you had a good chance of dying but wasn't guaranteed. The difference has been night and day obvious to me since season 8 was introduced. Not sure how you don't see it.
Rioter Comments
: Ranked Tiers: Did you know?
Used to be silver 3 was top 50% now it's gold 4. Even though I benefited from this change this season I still hate it (hit plat 4). I get why Riot changed it but ruined rankings for me and maybe others lol. Same tier distribution from season 3-8 and then... meh... f it. The Riot Games way indeed.
Mártir (EUW)
: League of Legends is not 'worth it', honestly.
I'm already planning to come back for worlds after only taking like 3 ish weeks off but honestly... even with worlds as pumped as I am to watch it I really don't feel like playing the game. I am getting a little burned out on Classic WoW (although I still play it a lot haha) and I am still busy with it but am looking forward to just taking time off games in general. League will always be in my heart but I think it's time to drop it. It's no longer the game I fell in love with. I put up with it because I want it to be, but the game I truly loved has been dead for at least a couple years now. I was happy to hit plat this season after all this time but I am already feeling like I don't care. I don't feel like caring hell a few weeks away from ranked has made me feel amazing honestly. Ranked is so stressful when you are trying your best. I just never really get joy out of it anymore. The climb is annoying and idk.... im just rambling at this point. I wish I could still love league as much as I used to but I can't. Even with a little time off I have already realized I haven't liked the game in years... just been pretending. And I do think season 9 was better than 8 but honestly..... both are complete and utter shit compared to even like 3-4 years ago. I don't know what season I would want to go back to honestly but... doesn't matter. League never going back to how it used to be so no use thinking about it. Time to quit and move on with life.
TSK Rave (EUW)
: LoL Ranked improvement idea (Trust Mode)
Queues would be much longer and therefore Riot would never do it. Its not a bad idea its just...... a bad idea because it would cost Riot money and that's something they just not going to do.
: You know what? League just isn’t fun anymore.
Classic WoW is been having a blast. Stop on over & forget your LoL sadness. I did and feel good!
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: Balance team is buffing TOO MUCH
Worlds man. They trying to make more champs viable but after groups or by 2nd round a meta forms anyways. Just hope they get it figured out and there's not too many 100% pick or ban champs at worlds. But yea for solo queue it going to be pretty crazy. Luckily I hit my min goal rank for the season and addicted to WoW classic to care lol. Feels good not giving a shit not going to lie.
: RANKED ARAM
Will never understand for the desire of ranked ARAM. A queue that can never be balanced and would lead to even more complaining is literally a terrible idea. Then we have to see players getting rewards shoved in their face like they are now doing for stupid ass TFT and pretending they know how to play League when it's a completely different game mode. Yea.... no thanks. There's waaaayyy ttooo much RNG in ARAM to be competitive.
Ventace (NA)
: As a Fiora main with 500k...
Just saying there are bronze/silver players with over 2 mil mastery points. Mastery Points really don't mean much sadly lol
: I don't get what with the ego problems of some players. It's just a game.
I would still report mid for afk. As they ultimately are the ones that ruined the game by going afk. I would report jungler as well... but at least they kept playing. It amazes me the number of people who don't know mute exists. All mid had to do was mute jungler & mute pings from jungler and their game already that much better.
Rioter Comments
El Bárd (NA)
: Play Twisted Treeline
Meh I am sad it's getting removed but at the same time I am really sick of the current version of TT. I really wish Riot would have just made changes along the way to it making it fun. But in it's current form I dislike it anyways so I will not miss it. At least until sometime down the road. But when they change the map only a handful of times over all these years..... this feeling is bound to happen.
GigglesO (NA)
: Stage a Protest?
But I have to ban {{champion:238}} .... Not going to play mid if zed up as he is always picked....
: Can we make SoloQ solo only?
But it's solo/duo queue... not solo queue. Probably why you know... there are duos.
jeskaiah (NA)
: Ranked loses all of its integrity when multi friends/club members can que for the same game.
: Why trolls win League of Legends.
Shhhhhhhh but if you say mean things to a troll then these boards will see you as toxic and you will be banned like you said.... God I hate this mentality so much. I hate that people can troll and not get in trouble but if I mention what a piece of shit they are then I am the asshole. The one chat restriction I got in the past was mostly for 1. bitching about how bad the game was in season 8 (which... it was right? And so is this season). But we lose and people get annoyed so they report for chat even though 95% of my chat was just bitching about how bad the game was. And then 2. going ape on an in game admitted booster who was talking shit and looking up their account you could easily tell they were boosting. Yea... I said some of the worst shit I have ever said to someone in this game (not racial or sexual...but it was bad). I got chat restrict for it.... which was deserved. But the stupid thing about that is.... booster gets away scott free to continue to beyond ruin games until they boost the player to whatever rank. So 10, 20, 50, 100 more games. Then whenever that player goes back they ruin every game their in. Until maybe.... at end of the season they do a mass ban. But still A LITERAL FUCKING SEASON OF RUINED GAMES BECAUSE OF THIS PIECE OF SHIT. But na.... better just give the other dude a chat restrict that will make him have to play the game for 3 months while hating it just to get back up to honor 2 to play "clash" a game mode that sounds good but they never actually released because they can't develop shit just like their terrible punishment system. So yea.... basically troll away just don't type and enjoy ruining the game for 9 other players for season upon season. Great shit Riot.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dukues,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fXMEU0Xc,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-09-10T16:38:50.262+0000) > > Meh I am with the flammer... sorta. Not the flame part but calling these inting noobs bluffs. Fuck em. Hate em.... they should be perma banned in my opinion. Especially if I am on an alt account I will call their bluff and if they int I report. The way I look at it... they need the wins a fuck ton more than I do sooo fuck em. Why should I carry them? This attitude is why you should be banned on both your main account and your smurf account. YOU deserve to be banned.
> [{quoted}](name=DontTypeJustPlay,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fXMEU0Xc,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-09-10T16:44:37.069+0000) > > This attitude is why you should be banned on both your main account and your smurf account. YOU deserve to be banned. lol k. To be fair I misread a little but at the end of the day the only one truly ruining the game is this weak minded inter. I on the other hand would be trying my hardest to win the game..... soo.... sounds like you are just dumb honestly lol. Like how hard is it for your teammate to just mute the flammer? It's beyond simple... problem solved. But instead they decide to hard throw the game and fuck over 3 other people besides the flammer. They should be banned plain and simple. Was thinking more of people who hold champ select hostage. I call their bluffs a majority of the time. Most the time they back off and if they dont well... have gotten a lot of instant feedback reports so.... clearly they fucking up.
: Listen to this
Meh I am with the flammer... sorta. Not the flame part but calling these inting noobs bluffs. Fuck em. Hate em.... they should be perma banned in my opinion. Especially if I am on an alt account I will call their bluff and if they int I report. The way I look at it... they need the wins a fuck ton more than I do sooo fuck em. Why should I carry them?
vyoda (NA)
: Support Mains of the Boards: Why do you supp? ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
Because they can't do anything else {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
: Why Do Simple Gameplay Concepts Seem Completely Lost On People?
Meh it's not great but it gets better not sure what you are bitching about. Low plat/high gold isn't top tier challenger so there will obviously be lots of mistakes... plus its freaken solo queue man. Solo queue is pure chaos. But its definitely better than silver/bronze.... like.... a lot better. In silver I can't even try to play around my team because of how fucking dumb they are. At least in high gold/low plat a majority of the time I at least know wtf my teammates are thinking. Not everytime... but a majority and can coordinate plays with them. It's still far from perfect but.... its not fucking silver/bronze elo lol.
: Why do you keep playing this game?
I just assumed this was a post regarding game quality. But nope.... literally just a beyond dumb post instead. If you really took offense to that video then... that just says a lot about you not going to lie.
: Ranked is incredibly stressful
Depends on the elo but yea ultimately it's pretty shit. I am happy I played ranked this season though I enjoyed it a lot in recent months. Start of new season always beyond frustrating though I was raging and just hating the game then. But once shit settles down and you adjust your play to the meta it not as bad. But yes I honestly do think the game is way less fun to play now than it used to be.
: If I'm correct, isn't it highly impossible to fix match making in the middle of a season without fucking things up more?
> [{quoted}](name=GamingExotic,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5J79eUEr,comment-id=00300000,timestamp=2019-09-06T17:09:11.698+0000) > > If I'm correct, isn't it highly impossible to fix match making in the middle of a season without fucking things up more? I mean I would think so. They tried to make some changes at the highest elos but.... I doubt it had much effect idk im not good enough to play up there. But this guy saying he's blaming match making on a season 4 years ago than literally a season where Riot admitted too many people climbed higher than they should with too large of increased lp gains. Honestly I think it's just the snowball of the game more than anything. Its just harder for better players to carry these days than it used to be. A lot of the poor match making was covered up in the past by individuals having more agency over carrying the game. Plus I just think the game snowballs harder the last two seasons than it ever has. A lot of the time players actuall aren't that much worse they just lost a fight early and the game snowballs super hard where they just keep getting fucked by how much damage there is. Or they dumb and playing some champ they don't know as well or autofilled.
Kai Guy (NA)
: So 80% of the players are properly placed with the remaining 20% being over skilled but equally distributed between teams? Post on your real account if you want folks to take you seriously dude. No one expects sub 30s or normals to be quality MM.
> [{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HNtAENZh,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-06T04:56:51.926+0000) > > So 80% of the players are properly placed with the remaining 20% being over skilled but equally distributed between teams? > > Post on your real account if you want folks to take you seriously dude. No one expects sub 30s or normals to be quality MM. Amen. People on these boards are so sensitive it's ridiculous lol. That and in game. "omg he said I am bad when im 0-10" ... it's because you are playing bad and doing bad things. Also people pretending like mute doesn't exist blows my mind.
Tsuko (NA)
: Fuck people who abuse the chat system.
How can you abuse the chat system?
mark6028 (EUW)
: I'm done. Uninstalled, season 9 just broke me
I had to down vote because of the first sentence. People still blaming dynamic queue season 6 blow my mind. literally 4 seasons ago... has nothing to do with the game now. Plus they did a large soft reset in season 7.... so yes... that shit was taken care of years ago. Riot fucked up at start of season 9 as they admitted. So obviously issues you see or think you see are due to that... not something that happened 4 fucking years ago lol.
Rioter Comments
: Again, stop buffing Lee Sin everytime before Worlds
Meh I like seeing {{champion:64}} at worlds though :). Idk... other than the ult damage the other buffs don't seem that insane. Plus it's not like he has the craziest win rate & play rate like we have seen other champs have and not be touched. But obviously like you said he is definitely not weak and probably doesn't need these buffs. Riot doing things that make sense.... come on..... haha we have to accept Riot is never truly going to do smart things anymore. Might as well just give their balance team jobs over to a bunch of first season bronze players. Would but about as interesting buff/nerf decisions as we have now.
: Turret plating is honestly the worst thing I've ever seen added to the game next to rng scuttles
I like them lol. I mean... it definitely doesn't help with the snowball effect of the game so I am probably being a hypocrite as I liked older seasons with stronger turrets, less damage, and just longer overall games. But Idk... as a laner I kinda like the whole getting gold for plats and trying to track the plats etc. I think to me rather than fucking with other shit I wish Riot would increase turret defense some, champion overall damage a little, reduce the effectiveness of baron a little. But idk I am just accepting this is how the game is going to be from now on. Because honestly it has made the pro scene more enjoyable to watch overall. So I just can't see Riot going back. It has made solo/duo queue and just norms less fun though. Idk what the answer is but I don't think turret plates are the deciding dumb factor by Riot. I think they have done way more dumb shit over the seasons. Runes reforged being up at top of the list.
: Ranked matchmaking question
I am pretty sure it's just based on mmr. Like literally win rate, rank, etc. doesn't matter. Whatever that "magic" mmr number is that's all that matters and as long as the system can have both teams with somewhat close mmrs well then.... the game is balanced in the systems eyes. At least... that's how it is based on my knowledge and what I have seen playing ranked over the years.
: Nope, since league is complete garbage, and the balance team is made up of random kids pushing buttons. All about WoW classic.
> [{quoted}](name=p3tm4ster,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IW8dYZQG,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-04T15:32:43.353+0000) > > Nope, since league is complete garbage, and the balance team is made up of random kids pushing buttons. All about WoW classic. Haha I feel you. I don't think League in a great state right now but I enjoy it still. I did hate season 8 though... and I feel like season 9 isn't that much different so I don't know why I feel different. But I understand people who dislike the game in it's current form for sure. I don't love it right now but I also don't hate it.
: League is in a bad spot rn
How did {{champion:111}} make that list? lol
Rioter Comments
: My midlaner rage quit last game and i cant honesly say i blame him....
Yo so I just checked into your mid and honestly this is what happened. The player is legit first time gold this season so maybe at max skill hit old gold 5 rank. They have 1k games played and just spamming a lot of different champs. They have the "hit new tier going to play what I want since I can't really get demoted" syndrome going on right now. Plus look they on a losing streak so they clearly titled. But instead of playing their bread and butter picks they pick {{champion:38}} who looks like they hardly play.... Then they get ganked (probably not efficient wards & knowledge of where jungler is). Dude already titled and this tilts him harder so then they play worse and get picked off more. And then just rage quit the game. Don't feel bad for them.... they fucked up by playing shit they don't know and enemy played around it well. Report them for afk and feel bad for yourself for getting matched with this "afk troll" essentially.
: My midlaner rage quit last game and i cant honesly say i blame him....
Sounds like a bad midlaner honestly..... I do agree jungle sucks and there needs to be more risk/reward for ganking verse farming and stealing camps need to actaully feel like you gain something. But I also think the game has been this way for literally two seasons and probably will be forever at this point. Hopefully this preseason they actually make good changes for jungle for once. But yea.... I just see your midlaner fucking up bad. Obviously {{champion:38}} a risky pick especially early as it takes him awhile to get going .The fact the enemy punished the pick so hard is credit to them. It's smart play by them. Don't remember what your jungler was doing but pretty much forces them to either try and counter gank mid or help top or bot. If he can't well then your jungler pretty much fucked sadly. Not going to say I love the game right now but. One game of your mid picking a scaling mid and then getting abused for it isn't really a great post on why jungle is shit right now.
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