Rockman (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Kythers,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5tsvlxv1,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-14T01:42:46.981+0000) > > looks like the matter is settled I'm just sayin
> [{quoted}](name=Rockman,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5tsvlxv1,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-14T01:43:24.964+0000) > > I'm just sayin you're also just wrong, so there's that.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=s9i3T2t3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-14T01:38:27.379+0000) > > huh? > {{champion:523}} {{champion:235}} {{champion:246}} {{champion:350}} {{champion:517}} qiyana is a support
> [{quoted}](name=RubySpackle,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=s9i3T2t3,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-12-14T01:39:48.224+0000) > > qiyana is a support oh yes of course. support qiyana. how could I forget.
: Should I get Beekeeper Singed, or Little Demon Tristana?
: The Company That Ruined Itself
>3 supports and 2 adcs in the last 5 releases. huh? {{champion:523}} {{champion:235}} {{champion:246}} {{champion:350}} {{champion:517}}
Rioter Comments
Pandara (NA)
: Sure, I did say I'm open to discussing.
> [{quoted}](name=Pandara,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XXn99Jhm,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-13T09:55:29.860+0000) > > Sure, I did say I'm open to discussing. If you were trying to design a race car, would you have soccer moms drive it to give feedback and make changes based on what they say? Or would you get a professional racer to test it? Low elo players can't pilot a champion to their potential, so why make changes to how a champion is played based on people that aren't using them right to begin with? Individual player skill also matters and varies much much more the lower elo you are, while champion strength matters a lot more in higher elos where everyone is playing champions at near their peak possible performance. If every player is great, then you have less variables and can more easily see what parts of a champions kit are actually problematic, and you can actually work towards some form of balance. If your goal is a competitive game, balance based off of the highest level of competition. Balancing around the average player will just make balance at the highest level a complete joke. The ideal goal is obviously to get approximately equal balance across all skill levels, but that's not a realistic possibility for some champions.
Pandara (NA)
: Discussion post about a specific champions lack of balance, you have been warned.
>99% of the players of this game are not pro-players, so why balance around less than 1% of players? Do you want the actual reason why this is the most prominent method of balancing across every game?
: So, who gets the username if there's a duplicate username.
> [{quoted}](name=acandybar,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=m6mNwJhj,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-12-13T03:49:01.933+0000) > > So, who gets the username if there's a duplicate username. The last person to change it. If the person that has your username doesn't play anymore, you're pretty much screwed.
: Welp, this also confirm the Ruined King is coming to League. There's no way they wouldn't make him a champ to tie with the game. I'm hoping for a {{champion:83}} cameo in the game.
> [{quoted}](name=N1C Jeddy017,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EAB5AXIs,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-13T03:01:32.042+0000) > > Welp, this also confirm the Ruined King is coming to League. There's no way they wouldn't make him a champ to tie with the game. > > I'm hoping for a {{champion:83}} cameo in the game. The game isn't being made by Riot though. It's being made by a 3rd party.
Terozu (NA)
: His original teaser was a rat face and that's a mane lol, I knew that as soon as id seen the splash. XD
> [{quoted}](name=Terozu,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=dHctErgW,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-12T05:58:04.111+0000) > > His original teaser was a rat face and that's a mane lol, I knew that as soon as id seen the splash. XD alright so reav3 answered on reddit: He's based on a wolverine, and the fur is part of his clothes, not a mane. Also Draven is _not_ his father.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bygJXFVL,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-12T22:40:39.472+0000) > > did you happen to "talk back to a flamer and stand up for someone" on 4 different occasions, all of which were bad enough to get you punishments? Yeah, we all know every game has flamers
> [{quoted}](name=Aphëlios,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bygJXFVL,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-12-12T22:52:17.151+0000) > > Yeah, we all know every game has flamers Can you post your chat logs?
: How am I supposed to spend another dime on league
did you happen to "talk back to a flamer and stand up for someone" on 4 different occasions, all of which were bad enough to get you punishments?
: Dawnbringer Karma Bundles
Yup But it's an Exlusive Ruby Chroma™ only available with this bundle, so it makes it okay :^) No but actually it's 100% non profit, all proceeds from the skin and related bundles go to charity. Whether or not that justifies 1410 rp for a chroma is up to you.
: Oh hey, didn't see you there. This? Oh its nothing, just a little thing called: LUNCH TIME WITH BAZ
: Hes more of a juggernaut. Most tanks have some form of damage reduction and CC. Seems like he’s gonna be a little over tuned on release, but we dont know since we dont know his numbers yet.
> [{quoted}](name=MrSîsterFister,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hB1bNKmn,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-12T19:47:34.362+0000) > > Hes more of a juggernaut. > > Most tanks have some form of damage reduction and CC. > > Seems like he’s gonna be a little over tuned on release, but we dont know since we dont know his numbers yet. He's live on PBE right now, we do know his numbers.
5050BS (NA)
: So Im guessing Sett is really a tank
He's a juggernaut. Same thing, just more damage and less CC. He plays kind of like a mix between Darius and Vi.
Drultime (EUW)
: Can you provide a way for people who were blocking themselves, and who, in some sense, were forced to change their username, to revert it to what it originaly was after changing the other accounts' linked usernames ?
> [{quoted}](name=Drultime,realm=EUW,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=m6mNwJhj,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-12-12T19:31:18.268+0000) > > Can you provide a way for people who were blocking themselves, and who, in some sense, were forced to change their username, to revert it to what it originaly was after changing the other accounts' linked usernames ? You can contact support and they can do it for you. They were able to change my NA account back to my old username, and change my PBE account to just have "pbe" added to the end of it.
Quáx (NA)
: Why????
> [{quoted}](name=Quáx,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=m6mNwJhj,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-12T19:17:50.151+0000) > > Why???? because Riot is rolling over from a "league of legends" account to a "Riot Games" account. Think of it like using 1 battle.net, origin, or steam account to log in to all of your games on their respective clients. Rather than having a different account for World of Warcraft, Diablo 3, Overwatch, Hearthstone, etc, everything is compiled under 1 main account. How riot is going about doing it is all wrong though imho. The easiest solution I feel would be to just have a completely separate "Riot Games" account creation, and make you link your league of legends account to it. Or if they really want to just use accounts that already exist, wipe the whole thing clean and have everyone pick a username.
: Optional username update prompt is back in-client
Fortunately, I won't have any problems because my username is unique after sorting out my NA/PBE/EUW accounts, but for players that _do_ have to change, is there any chance Riot will do anything to prevent names being taken by newer or inactive accounts? IE: Someone on NA has had their level 280 account with the username "Bob" for 10 years. Someone on RU has a level 5 account that they created 3 years ago with the same username, and they haven't touched it since the day they created it. Is the NA player just shit out of luck because that player is never going to log back in? It seems like you could just wipe the slate clean, and give usernames to whomever claims them first. That way people who currently have unique names won't have an issue, players that want to change their usernames can, and players who have their names taken by inactive accounts won't be fucked over because that player is never going to change it. It also adds less confusion on Riot's end with making sure emails have been sent out. Alternatively, have everyone create a Riot account, have players link their league accounts to it, and just retire being able to use their league account to log in.
: > For the price riot would have to charge for a one-off poster, you'd be better off to just get the splash art printed out yourself. I worked in a print shop myself before, once the shop has all the graphics in their portfolio the process becomes real smooth, no extra price or anything.
> [{quoted}](name=Ashe mage AD,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=nEUdW6Zi,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-12T08:02:36.360+0000) > > I worked in a print shop myself before, once the shop has all the graphics in their portfolio the process becomes real smooth, no extra price or anything. Really? Interesting. My only experience in printing was doing custom packaging and stickers/labels, so I assumed a single one off print would cost more for the customer than a bulk order of the same image.
: > because that would require having over 1000 different posters on hand at all times. There's no reason to pay a print shop to make posters for skins that likely won't sell and will just gather dust in a warehouse. True, but if there's a demand for it then it might be in Riot's interest to meet it. There's workarounds for this issue also like, every single skin is a bit overkill, they could add only the most popular ones and make custom commands for the others like once or twice a month based on purchases. Downside is you gotta wait quite a bit more then you'd normally wait but welp.
> [{quoted}](name=Ashe mage AD,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=nEUdW6Zi,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-12T07:13:09.178+0000) > > True, but if there's a demand for it then it might be in Riot's interest to meet it. There's workarounds for this issue also like, every single skin is a bit overkill, they could add only the most popular ones and make custom commands for the others like once or twice a month based on purchases. Downside is you gotta wait quite a bit more then you'd normally wait but welp. For the price riot would have to charge for a one-off poster, you'd be better off to just get the splash art printed out yourself.
UnityOE (NA)
: Why doesn't Riot sell posters on their merch store of all champion skins?
because that would require having over 1000 different posters on hand at all times. There's no reason to pay a print shop to make posters for skins that likely won't sell and will just gather dust in a warehouse.
Terozu (NA)
: His original teaser was a rat face and that's a mane lol, I knew that as soon as id seen the splash. XD
> [{quoted}](name=Terozu,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=dHctErgW,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-12T05:58:04.111+0000) > > His original teaser was a rat face Can you link to that? His teaser in the road map was an arena. >and that's a mane lol, I knew that as soon as id seen the splash. XD It doesn't look anything like a mane to me. It's a different color than his hair, looks to be a part of his coat, and is the same color as the fur on his gauntlets, which are _over_ his hand wraps.
: I think Sett is actually a Lion Vastaya, or another form of Big Cat.
https://imgur.com/a/6xmag3d https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/513986485133901824/654582495001444352/ELjIn-wUYAAdY36.png This is what we have to go off of for what he is. Based on Her being ionian (and what she looks like) I'd say he's part fox vastayan. Or possibly bunny, but I don't know if that's a thing?
Terozu (NA)
: ...Are you trying to imply that Ahri, a Fox vastaya, fired a lion/mouse vastaya? That's not how that works, this isn't RWBY they aren't random like Faunus are.
> [{quoted}](name=Terozu,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=dHctErgW,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-12-12T05:21:08.519+0000) > > ...Are you trying to imply that Ahri, a Fox vastaya, fired a lion/mouse vastaya? > > That's not how that works, this isn't RWBY they aren't random like Faunus are. I don't see lion or mouse at all personally, I was basing the Ahri idea purely off his mother being Ionian, and what I perceived as tails (this post was from before we had anything more to go on but his splash and lore). What looked like they could be tails appear to actually be fur on his coat. Either way, Ahri's not his moth at all, because he holds up a picture of her. Draven being his father is still very likely though.
: Do 1 hour of OT at work, buy all starter packs, you now have 15 skins and it barely took more time than the time you probably spent complaining about it. (plus panda teemo)
> [{quoted}](name=Beerstein,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3kXua74P,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-12T05:01:25.193+0000) > > Do 1 hour of OT at work, buy all starter packs, you now have 15 skins and it barely took more time than the time you probably spent complaining about it. (plus panda teemo) Bold of you to assume someone making this inane of a complaint works.
: Why are we geting more male champions when there is already double male vs female champs?
> [{quoted}](name=Rainbow Sparkles,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GnLMOLJW,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-12-12T04:52:21.255+0000) > > I don't think Im the only one that enjoys playing a champ of my own gender, so why is it that there is like double the amount of male champs vs female champs already Because like double the amount of players are male if we're basing this on enjoying playing a champion of your own gender? You destroyed your own argument in the same sentence as you were making it. >and riot is pumping out male champs still? Can we please catch up? Looking at the past 50 champions released, this is the order (starting from Sett) M M F F F M F M F F M M F M F M M F M M F F M M M F F M M M M M F M M F M F M F F M F M F M F F M M That's: 28 Males, 22 Females I'd say overall, that's fairly even, especially given that the 3 champions released before Aphelios were female.
: What was the point of making sett a vastaya If he basically a human??
>I’m not too huge on lore Then why even ask this question? Him being half vastayan is a huge part of who he is.
: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/F2RZtoAA-we-need-a-juggernaut-type-of-champion-coming-from-ionia-and-i-have-an-idea-d He took inspiration from my post :3
> [{quoted}](name=taleofsonata,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3glIMj2B,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-12T04:18:21.297+0000) > > https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/F2RZtoAA-we-need-a-juggernaut-type-of-champion-coming-from-ionia-and-i-have-an-idea-d He took inspiration from my post :3 Uhh I'm sorry but I don't see the inspiration at all? He's actually really similar to Gatotkaca, a hero from mobile legends, but he's not really that unique of a design.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Pntnb04c,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-12T02:56:50.341+0000) > > every gun has 50 rounds > W uses 10 rounds every time (but can still be used if he's under 10) > > he has a convoluted kit, but I don't think it will be that hard to balance. Good to know that changing weapons does cost him something (thought lost ammo is good in it's own way). I disagree i think it's going to be hell to balance his kit. Or they are going to make him need to be {{champion:37}} levels of squishy. I really want to know his various attack ranges and how his ratios are going to work.
> [{quoted}](name=only zhule,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Pntnb04c,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-12-12T03:17:24.633+0000) > > Good to know that changing weapons does cost him something (thought lost ammo is good in it's own way). I disagree i think it's going to be hell to balance his kit. Or they are going to make him need to be {{champion:37}} levels of squishy. > > I really want to know his various attack ranges and how his ratios are going to work. sorry, I meant his _q_ costs 10 ammo every time, not his W. W is free.
: For once in a long time, I'm kind of excited for the next champ
every time people describe sett's W, I don't see anyone mention the shield he gets from it. W grants you a shield that decays over 2 seconds equal to the amount of grit you've built up. Also I'd compare his E more to thresh's flay, but towards you instead of all in one direction. But yeah, overall his kit is pretty simple. I like it a lot from what I've used in practice tool
: Guesses on how long before new champ gets a rework?
> but from the look of it this dude is getting like 40-100 triggers of each weapon effect every gun has 50 rounds Q* (not W) uses 10 rounds every time (but can still be used if he's under 10) he has a convoluted kit, but I don't think it will be that hard to balance.
: Hope for Sett's kit
There are already videos out of all of his abilties. He's live on the PBE currently. He does have a more simplistic kit. His q is just 2 punches, his w is an aoe cone, e is like thresh flay but pulls you towards him from both sides, and his ult is kind of like vi ult, but it moves you (the person he ults) back maybe 300 units or so. He has a very basic brawler-style kit.
: Sett looks like he is in his late 20's or 30's. Draven is in his 40's probably. the timing would be weird. but also draven would not have stayed in ionia after the invasion. my bet is him and draven have a rivalry due to both being gladiators and them being ionian and noxian.
> [{quoted}](name=lowrankhero,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=dHctErgW,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-12T00:19:36.038+0000) > > Sett looks like he is in his late 20's or 30's. Draven is in his 40's probably. the timing would be weird. but also draven would not have stayed in ionia after the invasion. my bet is him and draven have a rivalry due to both being gladiators and them being ionian and noxian. In Sett's lore, it says: >When the event was over, Sett inquired about his father, and learned a hard truth: his father had bought out his contract and left to tour more profitable pits abroad. He had deserted his family, to seek fortune on the other side of the world. Which if you read Draven's lore: >Before long, the scope of his ambitions outgrew the population of Noxus. He decided that the glorious exploits of Draven should be put on display for the entire world. It's entirely possible that Sett is Draven's son. Draven banging some random ionian vastayan (Ahri?) and then leaving to chase fame and fortune sounds like a Draaaaven thing to do.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=536yqhWd,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-11T18:07:15.036+0000) > > Which would allow him to change his current username, which is the desired effect. The new account would be a throwaway. I could try but I think what Zac x Me was saying was that the original account wouldn't be prompted to make a new one since you are making an account after this whole situation The reason others are getting forced to change usernames is because their two accounts _already _ had the same usernames and now they can't
> [{quoted}](name=LeafyGreen,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=536yqhWd,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-12T00:20:55.015+0000) > > I could try but I think what Zac x Me was saying was that the original account wouldn't be prompted to make a new one since you are making an account after this whole situation > > The reason others are getting forced to change usernames is because their two accounts _already _ had the same usernames and now they can't Every account name after riot fully implements this change has to be unique. You won't be able to make a new account name with the same name as your current account. If you were to make an account right now with the same name as yours (I'm not sure if it would let you or not anymore) you would have to change one of the account names to something unique. It's not just for current accounts, it's for all accounts moving forward.
Wind234 (NA)
: Jeez, it's been awhile since Riot released champs this rapidly in succession....I guess they must have finished up several projects during Worlds and now we're seeing the results. Sett seems interesting, at least! An Ionian criminal overlord, and a vastayan at that....
> [{quoted}](name=Wind234,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EKoLUZHw,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-11T22:55:24.962+0000) > > Jeez, it's been awhile since Riot released champs this rapidly in succession....I guess they must have finished up several projects during Worlds and now we're seeing the results. Sett seems interesting, at least! An Ionian criminal overlord, and a vastayan at that.... This (should) be the last champion released for a while outside of reworks. They wanted to get everything out early during preseason to work out bugs/balance in time for next season to start up.
: Neither should have ranked. TFT is still very Beta, besides...
> [{quoted}](name=True Garen,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=45iRwIsl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-11T22:51:24.147+0000) > > Neither should have ranked. > > TFT is still very Beta, besides... saying tft shouldn't have ranked is like saying there shouldn't be competitive card games. TFT is essentially just a deck building game.
Bultz (NA)
: Is this really sett.....?
yes https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/champion/sett
Rioter Comments
: just had a karma out heal my fucking mortal reminder.
Grievous wounds has no effect on shields, and karma has one source of healing.
LBmyBB (NA)
: Can we please stop creating overloaded champs?
Your description of new kits vs old kits is hilariously biased and full of hyperbole. Why not list what champions _actually_ do and are based around when describing new kits? Because being honest would completely dismantle your entire argument?
SirEnds (NA)
: Why did Qiyana get a second skin before Sylas?
{{champion:163}} hasn't gotten a skin since her release aside from one they were forced to make, which they've stated has no bearing on when a champion is considered for an upcoming skin line. When a champion is released doesn't really mean anything if their skins don't sell well, are complicated to make, or they don't fit a theme. 1. Qiyana fit the theme very very well. 2. It's likely they had this skin planned since before she was even released. An event as big as True Damage in collaboration with a company as big as Louis Vuitton requires _a lot_ of planning and months of work.
: it shouldnt be because she is already one of the weakest champs in the game with THE lowest win rate in the game as of right now. she has extremely low base hp, armor, and mr. Having this while shes trying to run away is STUPID, especially since she has a cast time now. Its one thing if she was casting it and someone slapped the blast cone during her cast. Thats ok for it to be on cd at that time, but NOT when shes not casting it AT ALL.
> [{quoted}](name=YuumiSoThicc,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bMAuoc7M,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-11T18:44:10.292+0000) > > it shouldnt be because she is already one of the weakest champs in the game with THE lowest win rate in the game as of right now. And she just got a boatload of changes.
Zac x Me (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=536yqhWd,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-11T16:25:27.169+0000) > > I'm not sure if it's too late to do it at this point, but I know riot said they were pausing forcing players to change their usernames for the time being. Have you tried making an account on a different server with your current username, so you'll be forced to change yours? In that case the new account would keep the old username. The moment there is only one account using that name it won't allow you to update it. I'm also in the same boat as OP, want to change my PBE acc to use it on my main :I
> [{quoted}](name=Zac x Me,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=536yqhWd,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-11T16:27:32.865+0000) > > In that case the new account would keep the old username. Which would allow him to change his current username, which is the desired effect. The new account would be a throwaway.
juli144 (EUW)
: Yuumi "rework" buff or nearf? (yuumi mains pls ;D)
>1. the w chast channel destroys my live. you have to predict skillshots to dash instead of use w to bait them. i never had mana problems so i dont need the passiv mana. and even if i had problems i still would have them because of the cost increases. 2. cant w after root: you are yuumi means you are dead when rooted to 99%. if you are good you use your e the right way and survive (with 2 stacks) now you have no speed (no boots, no flash) and die every time. 3. i think q is fine. more base dmg less scaling. i always play yuumi as sup so i dont care. 4. 1 w stack??? her burst healing was so good because of the 2 x e. as good yuumi your adc cant die if you do heal - shield - heal with doing dmg for the better heal item and dont die while in 5 enemys out of teammades. now you better stay in these champs because: better w scaling when in camp. pushish with channel w time MEANS you are dead when you want to shield 2 v 4. (i offen won these fights cut i had my 5 cs go minutes ;D) and your e is up faster so you have to stay to insta e every time you can. So what you're saying is every change riot made had the desired effect they were going for? W has multiple forms of counterplay, and she doesn't make whatever champion she's on unkillable All of the nerfs people are complaining about were things that made yuumi a broken mess that had to either be completely useless, or pick/ban if she was viable at all. Moving power around in her kit allows her to have some semblance of balance. Overall her changes were huge buffs, and she'll likely actually need to be toned down a bit now. But that should be doable with mainly just number changes instead of mini reworks.
: Yuumi in the patch notes
The blast plant is a loss of control effect. You can qss it, olaf ult prevents him from being knocked up by it, it triggers anything else related to cc, etc. Why should yuumi be any different?
: What if we WANT to change our usernames but we CANT
I'm not sure if it's too late to do it at this point, but I know riot said they were pausing forcing players to change their usernames for the time being. Have you tried making an account on a different server with your current username, so you'll be forced to change yours?
: do they let you bring your own keyboard/ mouse to video game competitions?
You use your own, but they have to be brought sealed and stored in advance on site so you can't tamper with anything.
: No, I'm not taking advice from you if your score is 0-33.
Judging a players skill or game knowledge based on their current kda in one game doesn't really make sense. Listen to any advice and determine if it's good or not on its own merit, be it from someone who's 20/0 or 0/20.
: wintrading ? i call it planting you got yourself a plant. riot should program the MM so it expand/broad the search for players as is promotes this behaviour.
> [{quoted}](name=ThunderCraft,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=AivU66WZ,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-12-06T20:00:41.381+0000) > > wintrading ? i call it planting you got yourself a plant. > > > riot should program the MM so it expand/broad the search for players as is promotes this behaviour. It can't exactly broaden the search for players in master+, there are only so many people queueing up at any given time. It's why wintrading only works in high elo.
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