: Sounds like someone is living in the past, bud. LCK used to be the best and they have the stats to show for it no doubt, but they’ve been outplayed by NA and EU in the last 2 international tournaments. I’m not saying they won’t get on our level in the future, they just aren’t on our level now. If it means so much to you, go watch some 2-3 year old VODS of Korea doing well internationally so you can enjoy the stats you’re bragging about.
> [{quoted}](name=IncrediPhiLL,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=tUdgW1PR,comment-id=00000003000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-19T13:34:38.784+0000) > > Sounds like someone is living in the past, bud. LCK used to be the best and they have the stats to show for it no doubt, but they’ve been outplayed by NA and EU in the last 2 international tournaments. I’m not saying they won’t get on our level in the future, they just aren’t on our level now. > > If it means so much to you, go watch some 2-3 year old VODS of Korea doing well internationally so you can enjoy the stats you’re bragging about. LCK has titles to show for during its glory years. NA's got 0-3 beat downs in the finals to look back to. Don't go hiding in your mom's basement when NA chokes out in the Worlds again. "I think Korea is a bottom of the barrel region now. Id say NA, EU, and China are the top 3... in that order." LMFFAOL LOLOLOLOLOL
: You mean the Season 3 World Championship? I'll provide context. The biggest threat in that finals series was Royal's star ADC, Uzi. Bengi, Piglet, and PoohManDu deserve the most credit for blunting that threat. The undeniable star of SKT was Faker. At that time there were 3 god tier top lane champs, Shen, Renekton, and Jax. Each game in finals Shen and Renekton were banned and SKT prioritized getting Jax for Impact. He was given the best matchup possible and the game flowed first through Bot and Mid. He was along for the ride. Does he have a Championship? Yep. They didn't get it because of him and ever since he left SKT to chase getting a payday because of that champion status he's never proven himself as great.
> [{quoted}](name=ChompyWulf,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=50ZExE4z,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-05-19T14:38:39.828+0000) > > You mean the Season 3 World Championship? > I'll provide context. The biggest threat in that finals series was Royal's star ADC, Uzi. Bengi, Piglet, and PoohManDu deserve the most credit for blunting that threat. > The undeniable star of SKT was Faker. > At that time there were 3 god tier top lane champs, Shen, Renekton, and Jax. Each game in finals Shen and Renekton were banned and SKT prioritized getting Jax for Impact. > He was given the best matchup possible and the game flowed first through Bot and Mid. He was along for the ride. > > Does he have a Championship? Yep. They didn't get it because of him and ever since he left SKT to chase getting a payday because of that champion status he's never proven himself as great. Ever since Impact left SKT T1 K, SKT had one complete top laner and that was SKT T1 S's MaRin who struggled just about all his career except one year he's won World Championship with SKT T1. Impact's plays aren't flashy but he gets shit done. He holds it down for other lanes to get going by playing against 1v2 because SKT always prioritized and always will focus on winning bottom lane first. Him and Looper from Samsung White were similar type of players and I loved them for it. If you are looking for a top lane carry player like TheShy, you aren't going to see that from Impact and he's said it in numerous interviews recently that TheShy is the best top laner he's faced in his career. However, it was also Impact that told me 5-6 years ago he couldn't wait to see TheShy in the LCK pro scene because he'll be the Faker of the top lane. Except Impact was wrong because TheShy chased money and joined LPL's WE as a streamer. And no, Impact did not chase money to NA, if he was chasing money, he would have gone to LPL. First, the writing was on the wall for Impact that he'd be pushed out of starting rotation by SKT T1 S's MaRin when LCK forced organizations to disband its sister teams. SKT is forever Impact's team, he will never play for another LCK team. That's him. Secondly, he's asked me in numerous occasions what it's like to be in the states and has said he knows gamer's career is short so his goal is to learn English while playing in NA and prepare for his life after his gaming career is finished. So why NA over EU? It was simple, his favorite food at the time was hamburgers so NA it was. He joyed over having In-N-Out burgers for over a week when he first got here. And yes, Impact along with Bengi, Faker, Piglet, and Poohmandu were all the reason SKT T1 S won their first World Championship. Obviously you and I look at different traits and criteria as to what makes a top laner great. Just looking at all the top laners SKT's had over the years, only Impact and Duke are what Kkoma would consider prototypical SKT top laner, MaRin was freakish in his only year with SKT T1 that he was able to carry from top lane and thus didn't need him to play the role Kkoma prefers in his top laners. Huni failed miserably at what he wished to play was MaRin's role as a T1 and now we are seeing a carry top Khan struggle to play SKT T1's preferred top lane role. Khan may be better off playing carry top role even if he fails like Huni did. While it'll be a whole another story, Kkoma needs to let his players play the role they are good at or sign players that fits the role they want them to play in. Back to Khan, is he a great top laner? He was when he played with Peanut, BDD, PraY and Gorilla at Kingzone because he played his role as a roaming top carry perfectly. Same can be said about Peanut as a jungler because we know he can be the best carry jungler out there but he was forced to play the role of map pressuring jungler with SKT and now with GenG. Is Peanut not a great jungler because he can't play macro managing style better than his free roaming carry jungle style?
: Impact is no better than Xmithie. He has great games, decent games, and bad games in equal measure. I have no beef with Jensen's skill level, more so with how he typically hasn't leveraged leads into macro advantages. He also never should have been permitted back into the pro scene after his ban either.
> [{quoted}](name=ChompyWulf,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=50ZExE4z,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-18T17:39:50.698+0000) > > Impact is no better than Xmithie. He has great games, decent games, and bad games in equal measure. > > I have no beef with Jensen's skill level, more so with how he typically hasn't leveraged leads into macro advantages. He also never should have been permitted back into the pro scene after his ban either. Impact has a ring. https://cdn.guff.com/site_2/media/1000/155/items/65ed7002fb38584e2d75c113.jpg
: Anybody know what happened to TL?
Talk about boring. Worst. Finals. Ever.
: Korean reaction to SKT losing to G2
Coming soon: 2019 LCK Autumn. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
EPIKON (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheViceroys,realm=EUW,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=Pcr5dvAy,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-05-19T09:33:05.245+0000) > > I agree, the best match was G2 vs SKT... > {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}} Thoroughly enjoyed IG shown the door by CoreJJ and TL more in the other semis. Kkoma and the rest of LCK coaches need to gtfo and let the players play and quit worrying about making themselves look like r%%%%%s with shitty ban/picks. Until then, LCK doesn't deserve to win another title.
> [{quoted}](name=EPIKON,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=Pcr5dvAy,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-05-19T09:45:25.200+0000) > > Thoroughly enjoyed IG shown the door by CoreJJ and TL more in the other semis. > > Kkoma and the rest of LCK coaches need to gtfo and let the players play and quit worrying about making themselves look like r%%%%%s with shitty ban/picks. > > Until then, LCK doesn't deserve to win another title. Thin skinned NA users and mods much? I called out NA fans that itched about previous non-NA participating finals boring with the "r word" and my post gets deleted right away. I called out LCK coaches with the "r word" and this post doesn't get deleted. Stay classy NA but then again you can't spell NaCl without NA. What a ucking joke.
: NA is the second best region right now. When China and Korea make it to an international final in 2019, come talk to me bb.
> [{quoted}](name=IncrediPhiLL,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=tUdgW1PR,comment-id=000000030000,timestamp=2019-05-19T10:30:20.040+0000) > > NA is the second best region right now. When China and Korea make it to an international final in 2019, come talk to me bb. Popping off like you are something after making it to the MSI finals for the second time and both times only to get boat raced 0-3 -- cute. Since making it to the international finals mean so much to you, first match LCK's 13 appearances in both MSI and World Championship finals then talk shit. Since NA can't seem to win a single match in the finals, combined 25 match wins in the finals by LCK with 7 titles is something NA fan boys can only dream of. But hey, congrats for beating LPL's IG but then again TL consists of three former LCK players and a coach on the team. What can NA do without Koreans? At least LPL's IG won the World Championship with three Koreans on the team.
: Origen would like to have....two words with that...and Griffin sorta...
> [{quoted}](name=GeminiRune,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=mPfKciVw,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-05-19T09:34:26.177+0000) > > Origen would like to have....two words with that...and Griffin sorta... Oh, you mean Griffin the chokemasters? Win LCK playoff finals then pop off. What waste of talent with Tarzan and Chovy.
: Thank you G2 for putting Doublelift right where he deserves.
: > [{quoted}](name=EPIKON,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=Pcr5dvAy,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-05-19T09:30:58.347+0000) > > Talk about boring. > > Worst. > > Finals. > > Ever. I agree, the best match was G2 vs SKT... {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
> [{quoted}](name=TheViceroys,realm=EUW,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=Pcr5dvAy,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-05-19T09:33:05.245+0000) > > I agree, the best match was G2 vs SKT... > {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}} Thoroughly enjoyed IG shown the door by CoreJJ and TL more in the other semis. Kkoma and the rest of LCK coaches need to gtfo and let the players play and quit worrying about making themselves look like r%%%%%s with shitty ban/picks. Until then, LCK doesn't deserve to win another title.
: The biggest difference was between CoreJJ and MikyX honestly. Miky played out of his mind. And Jankos ganked bot in all 3 games early, while Xmithie wasn't there for the counterganks. TL needs a new jungler, one that can actually coordinate with the team and make proactive plays.
> [{quoted}](name=ContDeCaterinca1,realm=EUNE,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=Yg9oq9vH,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-05-19T09:35:53.321+0000) > > The biggest difference was between CoreJJ and MikyX honestly. > Miky played out of his mind. > > And Jankos ganked bot in all 3 games early, while Xmithie wasn't there for the counterganks. > > TL needs a new jungler, one that can actually coordinate with the team and make proactive plays. NA even lucky CoreJJ hard carried TL to the finals over IG. Blame your loser ADC.
: I think Korea is a bottom of the barrel region now. Id say NA, EU, and China are the top 3... in that order. We give Korea a pass for continually being trash for a year and a half because it's Korea. China has always been full of a bunch of chokers. Never able to perform when it matters the most. If Fnatic didn't fluke their way into the finals last year, IG would have choked there too.
> [{quoted}](name=IncrediPhiLL,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=tUdgW1PR,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-17T13:50:19.992+0000) > > I think Korea is a bottom of the barrel region now. Id say NA, EU, and China are the top 3... in that order. We give Korea a pass for continually being trash for a year and a half because it's Korea. China has always been full of a bunch of chokers. Never able to perform when it matters the most. If Fnatic didn't fluke their way into the finals last year, IG would have choked there too. Win 5 LoL World Championships then talk shit. Only region without a title from the big 4. Oh wait, NA isn't part of big 4 as it consists of LCK, EU, LMS and LPL. Git gud.
: GG, gratz on your 3-0 MSI win G2.
Talk about boring. Worst. Finals. Ever.
: EU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NA
Talk about boring. Worst. Finals. Ever.
Krayzie (EUNE)
: 3-0
Talk about boring. Worst. Finals. Ever.
Prandine (NA)
: What was the first Esports match you ever watched?
2014 LCK Spring Najin White Shield vs CJ Entus Blaze. That Save's Shyvana play in game 2 made me forever a Najin fan.
: Go NA and Go EU!
Lather. Rinse. Repeat. EU wins this year. LMS wins next year. Then LCK dominance for another 5 years. EZPZ.
CC 1138 (NA)
: Cloud 9 Makes History By Being The First NA Team To Beat A Korean Team In The Quaterfinals in Worlds
Only Afreeca fans support their team and there aren't too many of them. LCK fans don't consider Afreeca part of them due to its organization and its coach's handling of especially the Aiming situation this year. Just about everyone hopes Kiin leaves the joke of a team. But congrats C9, Afreeca deserved group stage exit but I'll take the sweep in the quarter-finals.
Jøkèr (NA)
: CHINA OVERRATED ❤️ LONG HAVE WE WAITED ❤️ KOREA OUTDATED ❤️ WEST ACTIVATED
> [{quoted}](name=Jøkèr,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=fVqIxZsx,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2018-10-21T18:45:55.806+0000) > > CHINA OVERRATED ❤️ LONG HAVE WE WAITED ❤️ KOREA OUTDATED ❤️ WEST ACTIVATED And LMS will win the Worlds 2019. Then LCK dominance from 2020 to 2025. Lather. Rinse. Repeat. Fuck FNATIC though, go G2!!
Rioter Comments
: Championship? I'm pretty sure Faker was referring to an SKT skin. Second, Ahri was never played at all, so giving her an SKT skin was pointless & meaningless.
> [{quoted}](name=BeatzBoyFTW,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=P5F1Xmf7,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-10-20T14:54:18.031+0000) > > Championship? I'm pretty sure Faker was referring to an SKT skin. Second, Ahri was never played at all, so giving her an SKT skin was pointless & meaningless. New to league? https://lol.gamepedia.com/Season_3_World_Championship/Match_History
: If I remember correctly he didnt get an Ahri skin either because A. He didnt play Ahri that Worlds Or B. Ahri was getting another skin around that time, and they followed a different philosophy back then Stop spreading your baseless lies and assumptions.
> [{quoted}](name=Daedric Etwahl,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=P5F1Xmf7,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-10-17T11:37:19.134+0000) > > If I remember correctly he didnt get an Ahri skin either because > > A. He didnt play Ahri that Worlds > > Or > > B. Ahri was getting another skin around that time, and they followed a different philosophy back then > > Stop spreading your baseless lies and assumptions. Faker played Ahri 6 out of 18 matches during 2013 Worlds -- followed by Gragas 4 times, Orianna 3 times, and Riven twice. Yes, so quit spreading your baseless lies and assumptions.
: I just learned that Faker wanted an Ahri skin for his first World Championship win...
Faker's favorite champion is Ahri. He was known for his LeBlanc and Syndra plays as an amateur though.
: IG probably just ruined 80% of the pickems brackets
: WOW! IG pull it out in game 5 of an absolutely amazing series. This worlds has by far the most exciting series matches of any worlds in history. No doubts about it. Upsets galore, outplays on outplays on outplays, astounding drafts, incredible macro, what more can you really ask for? Best. Worlds. Ever. And we have so many more matches to go. Absolutely incredible stuff.
> [{quoted}](name=oOBestEveNAOo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=agRatAVo,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-20T08:39:32.558+0000) > > WOW! IG pull it out in game 5 of an absolutely amazing series. > > This worlds has by far the most exciting series matches of any worlds in history. No doubts about it. Upsets galore, outplays on outplays on outplays, astounding drafts, incredible macro, what more can you really ask for? > > Best. Worlds. Ever. And we have so many more matches to go. Absolutely incredible stuff. Disagree. As LCK fan, I miss the ol' LCK Autum aka World Championship.
EPIKON (NA)
: Game 3 of KT vs IG
Game 5 -- GG's. The better team won.
: > [{quoted}](name=EPIKON,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=jF6IqwNM,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2018-10-20T07:03:03.026+0000) > > Thought that made it better. > > Thinking the team shown would win then all of sudden camera slides to the other nexus base. The nexus destruction wasn't shown until after the game was over (a replay).
> [{quoted}](name=Tahngarthor,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=jF6IqwNM,comment-id=00010001000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-20T08:05:37.033+0000) > > The nexus destruction wasn't shown until after the game was over (a replay). Didn't need to see the nexus destruction. Camera always slides and shows the nexus that's taken down at the end. And we saw that live camera showing KT's nexus to all of sudden the IG's.
Inada (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=EPIKON,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zuB00AAq,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-10-20T07:52:16.968+0000) > > $2000+ and I learned my lesson as well. > > Never another dime to these Chinese money grab fucks. Ok if im not the only one to drop a decent amount of cash and get pissed about it then maybe it will be a temp thing I dont wanna just jump the gun ..... with that said im pretty pissed kinda ish still so I dont wanna just let them off the hook either.
> [{quoted}](name=Inada,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zuB00AAq,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-10-20T07:55:36.940+0000) > > Ok if im not the only one to drop a decent amount of cash and get pissed about it then maybe it will be a temp thing I dont wanna just jump the gun ..... with that said im pretty pissed kinda ish still so I dont wanna just let them off the hook either. rito will be rito. They won't change. Every single chat ban I received were by playing WITH premades. Until rito makes a true solo queue, it will not change. I don't hate money anymore, you shouldn't either.
Inada (NA)
: I gave you over 500 $ and this is how you treat me
$2000+ and I learned my lesson as well. Never another dime to these Chinese money grab fucks.
: 5 GAMES.
Wish we could watch these two teams more. The impact of base race in game 3 was too much.
EPIKON (NA)
: Game 3 of KT vs IG
Now to game 5!
: The only real question anyone should be asking about this matchup
THE. SHY. Known as the best Riven player in the world. But fuck that guy.
EPIKON (NA)
: Game 3 of KT vs IG
OMG. This game 4.. Fucking Smeb 1v2.
: > [{quoted}](name=EPIKON,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=jF6IqwNM,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-10-20T06:45:49.238+0000) > > This game's ending will be replayed alongside xPeke's 2013 IEM Kassadin backdoor forever. perhaps if they didn't screw up the camera on it....
> [{quoted}](name=Tahngarthor,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=jF6IqwNM,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2018-10-20T07:00:23.465+0000) > > perhaps if they didn't screw up the camera on it.... Thought that made it better. Thinking the team shown would win then all of sudden camera slides to the other nexus base.
: I don't even usually watch this stuff, I just happened to click on this match... and that was one of the tightest finishes I've ever seen
> [{quoted}](name=Tahngarthor,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=jF6IqwNM,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-20T06:40:13.821+0000) > > I don't evne usually watch this stuff, I just happened to click on this match... and that was one of the tightest finishes I've ever seen This game's ending will be replayed alongside xPeke's 2013 IEM Kassadin backdoor forever.
: omfg {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-rainbows}}
> [{quoted}](name=HellawhiteIII,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=jF6IqwNM,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-20T06:37:14.953+0000) > > omfg > > {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-rainbows}} Yup.
Rioter Comments
: RNG won MSI not KZD KZD didn't win LCK Summer Split KZD aren't even apart of Worlds 2018. Joke is all you, bud!
> [{quoted}](name=III BAKURYU III ,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=McGNRppG,comment-id=00050001000000010001,timestamp=2018-10-06T06:00:36.044+0000) > > RNG won MSI not KZD > KZD didn't win LCK Summer Split > KZD aren't even apart of Worlds 2018. > > Joke is all you, bud! Way to reply 5 months later, chump. The joke is on you.
Rioter Comments
: I don't see why a measuring stick should be eatablished on whether or not you play Yasuo to a win or loss......
> [{quoted}](name=GeminiRune,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=qZ5EOTE0,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2018-05-12T09:01:28.457+0000) > > I don't see why a measuring stick should be eatablished on whether or not you play Yasuo to a win or loss...... It's a joke. Insert Yasuo/Vayne/Master Yi/Teemo etc etc
: Good thing I buy a damn LMS icon every season. When they're losing, no one cares. So it's win-win for me
> [{quoted}](name=GeminiRune,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=pxUFt2Vw,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-11T15:21:32.647+0000) > > Good thing I buy a damn LMS icon every season. When they're losing, no one cares. So it's win-win for me What's the story on Karsa leaving FW for RNG?
: I mean...how? I like a good storyline of a player striving to make a legacy. What's so wrong with that?
> [{quoted}](name=GeminiRune,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=qZ5EOTE0,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-05-11T01:07:22.339+0000) > > I mean...how? I like a good storyline of a player striving to make a legacy. What's so wrong with that? Yasuo player. I'd seen enough.
: What is the secret to Korean dominance. Solo Que? Hours played per day? I don't get it. But from watching the LCK I can tell you that Pray is a mechanic god, but Gorilla is the true montage player. If you watch the games Dragon X play watch their movement around the map. He is their shot caller. The guy is a genius and people underestimate his presence. Sure he has Khan Penut BDD and Pray's mechanics at his disposal, but he leads them flawlessly. Shot calling is more important than mechanics 9/10 games.
> [{quoted}](name=TheMinionLeader,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=tueu6jIX,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-11T16:25:03.150+0000) > > What is the secret to Korean dominance. Solo Que? Hours played per day? I don't get it. But from watching the LCK I can tell you that Pray is a mechanic god, but Gorilla is the true montage player. If you watch the games Dragon X play watch their movement around the map. He is their shot caller. The guy is a genius and people underestimate his presence. Sure he has Khan Penut BDD and Pray's mechanics at his disposal, but he leads them flawlessly. Shot calling is more important than mechanics 9/10 games. I miss Najin, the school of Top, Jungle, ADC and Support.
Snowman Arc (EUNE)
: Pray, against TL, showed that he is the best ADC in the world.
PraY, against RNG, showed that he is the best ADC in the world. Oh wait, Tencent's script says Uzi is the best ADC in the world -- what a joke.
: I think FNC are going into this tournament as a powerhouse team, with also RNG. KZD they're a team full of superstars and while we have seen(ROX 2/3.0) beat the top teams in the LCK and make decent showings at International events part of the members fall short more times than not. FW- I have no idea which FW will show up, the "Korea Kills" or the team that got destroyed at Worlds? TL- I want to say TL #1 with like a 7-8 win record out of 10 games but it's NA! However, it's not TSM, so anything is possible. Evos- Is a team that I hope makes some noise is it's basically Gigabyte Marines 2.0 I stand by with my thoughts on KZD. I think they're not as good as people make them out to be. Now, will they win MSI? Probably.
> [{quoted}](name=III BAKURYU III ,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=McGNRppG,comment-id=000500010000,timestamp=2018-05-11T07:17:47.767+0000) > > I think FNC are going into this tournament as a powerhouse team, with also RNG. > > KZD they're a team full of superstars and while we have seen(ROX 2/3.0) beat the top teams in the LCK and make decent showings at International events part of the members fall short more times than not. > > FW- I have no idea which FW will show up, the "Korea Kills" or the team that got destroyed at Worlds? > > TL- I want to say TL #1 with like a 7-8 win record out of 10 games but it's NA! However, it's not TSM, so anything is possible. > > Evos- Is a team that I hope makes some noise is it's basically Gigabyte Marines 2.0 > > I stand by with my thoughts on KZD. I think they're not as good as people make them out to be. Now, will they win MSI? Probably. Yeah, because RNG has done anything to show for come the World stages, LMAO. Tired of this script about Uzi being better than PraY because he thrives when his team plays around him, serious? Hell, look at PraY and you tell me how he played against Uzi when KDZ played around him. ROX and KDZ chose to play around Top lane because they have carry top laners in Smeb and Khan unlike other teams minus SKT with MaRin back in 2015. Even Bang was a badass when SKT played around Bang after MaRin left in the past two seasons. Tencent is ruining the League with their tiresome script of making a Chinese superstar who in reality shits the bed every time when the shit gets real. Look at RNG's lineup and you tell me who can carry their team other than Uzi, that would be no one. That's why they play around Uzi because he's their only chance and that doesn't make him the best ADC in the world, where's the logic in that. Every player on KDZ's roster is considered a top 3 player in their respective roles in LCK including their substitute Jungler Cuzz. 2018 KDZ is better than 2016 ROX in that they have night and day better Mid laner in BDD and if you think a team that's improved from runner-up to 2016 World Champion SKT is "not as good as people make them out to be," then you tell me which team is better than KDZ in 2018. RNG need another name change to RTG, Royal Time to Give up.
: I think FNC are going into this tournament as a powerhouse team, with also RNG. KZD they're a team full of superstars and while we have seen(ROX 2/3.0) beat the top teams in the LCK and make decent showings at International events part of the members fall short more times than not. FW- I have no idea which FW will show up, the "Korea Kills" or the team that got destroyed at Worlds? TL- I want to say TL #1 with like a 7-8 win record out of 10 games but it's NA! However, it's not TSM, so anything is possible. Evos- Is a team that I hope makes some noise is it's basically Gigabyte Marines 2.0 I stand by with my thoughts on KZD. I think they're not as good as people make them out to be. Now, will they win MSI? Probably.
> [{quoted}](name=III BAKURYU III ,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=McGNRppG,comment-id=000500010000,timestamp=2018-05-11T07:17:47.767+0000) > > I think FNC are going into this tournament as a powerhouse team, with also RNG. > > KZD they're a team full of superstars and while we have seen(ROX 2/3.0) beat the top teams in the LCK and make decent showings at International events part of the members fall short more times than not. > > FW- I have no idea which FW will show up, the "Korea Kills" or the team that got destroyed at Worlds? > > TL- I want to say TL #1 with like a 7-8 win record out of 10 games but it's NA! However, it's not TSM, so anything is possible. > > Evos- Is a team that I hope makes some noise is it's basically Gigabyte Marines 2.0 > > I stand by with my thoughts on KZD. I think they're not as good as people make them out to be. Now, will they win MSI? Probably. KZD wins the MSI. Wins the LCK Summer split. Then goes to win the LCK Autumn aka World Championship and this guy will still say nah, KZD isn't that good. What a joke.
: I actually think that this will be the first tournament that Korea doesn't do as well as people may think. 1. RNG 2. FNC 3. KZD 4. TL 5. EVOS 6. FW
> [{quoted}](name=III BAKURYU III ,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=McGNRppG,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-05-11T01:54:55.128+0000) > > I actually think that this will be the first tournament that Korea doesn't do as well as people may think. > 1. RNG 2. FNC 3. KZD 4. TL 5. EVOS 6. FW EL. FUCKING OH. EL.
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