SiniSael (EUW)
: IS bronze worse now than ever
i dont understand how you can be bronze 5. It just doesnt compute. My first placements ever were bronze 1. And i was out of it quickly. If you are in bronze 5 or bronze at all youre doing something wrong. The level of competition isnt just bad, its literally retarded. You are going to get a bunch of trolls and feeders but if you have even an ounce of skill you should be able to get out of bronze.
: Just a story to help people out
This mightve been the single cheesiet crap i have ever read (not that i disagree). Youre such a good boy !have a cookie {{item:2054}}
: 1. Kobe is an asshole and the only reason he got put up with was because of how good he is. He is nowhere near the norm. 4. My point was they all know each other and their tendencies. If you start yelling at a random stranger on the street you will have different consequences than if you know the person and have set up a relationship with them. 5. This is all your opinion but In my experience people who trashtalk in sports really make you play harder in order to beat them. In league when someone is trash talking it's always some teenager that I just end up muting and not giving a shit. You are saying " if you don't agree with my opinion then you have never played sports" which is pretty laughable
Okay so if its some teenager you end up muting the title of this thread is correct. Trash talking is fine, if youre annoyed by it just mute the guy, no biggie. And you said sports isnt as harsh, the video alone proves its way harsher. Theres no mute button on the court. Playing harder wont do shit if your up against mj or shaq. And if they are destroying you while talking trash to your face thats pretty humiliating. Not a lot of people take that well, i dont see how you can equate that to anything in league.
: These guys are teammates who practice all day together not some randoms in a pickup game
1 lin was brand new at the time barely out of college and he got the shit thrashed out of him by kobe to the point where they had to trade him because he wasnt performing 2 theres videos of kobes teammates actually tearing up and leaving the court, thats how harsh he was 3 he trash talked the enemy team a shitload too to the point where they almost got in fights 4 so youre saying its okay to abuse people you know but not strangers ? 5 if you think getting trash talked in league is "harsher" than getting trashed by a 6 5 230 jacked guy on the basketball court youve, clearly never played sports before. If you think league is harsher than actual sports you dont know what youre talking about and you should stop embarrasing yourself.
: I guess so but when I think about league trashtalk it seems completely different from any sport trashtalk. In league it's about bolstering your ego and letting the other player know he's shit while in basketball unless you're an asshole it's usually just small things you comment about like how you made the shot or got around him etc which sounds the same but usually isn't as harsh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m75WKO-GVMQ not as harsh ? check out kobe or mj and tell me they are not harsh.
Barkley (NA)
: My monthly post about disgusting club tags
Seriously who cares? Does it really bother you that much when you see the word "%%%%%%" or "%%%got" ? If so i think you might have a bigger problem than offensive club tags. I mean this post offends me, does this mean it should be removed ?
: > [{quoted}](name=EastWolfy,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3qLobYw2,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2018-02-01T20:43:36.474+0000) > > XD the guy was ranting on about how i dont have an education lol... if youre wondering what prompted this .... i really wish i could post this entire game full of chat logs ... it was such a cluster fuck but so funny. My teammates were pissing themselves laughing the entire game more or less. LMAO do you have another account ?
lol yeh but ive been playing on this one lately. My girlfriend has me as a friend on the other and I dont like playing with her cause she is brutal lol. Also i cant hide my status and she can opgg me because shes psycho. So i just use this one when I dont want to play with her.
: Is it acceptable to intentionally lose and troll as long as you don't type and have fun?
Its worse but theyl never catch, i troll with bard all the time to get people killed and have never been punished. Its because riot cares more about if someone says %%%got than the actual game. I suggest you troll away.
: I dun goofed
My advice is go plwy bard and troll people using your ult
Polytra (EUW)
: That chat gave me serious stomachache, I hope you can start to play and stop typing. And yes, all that should be reportable and bannable !!
i was playing, i was actually winning by a very large margin and the guy got butthurt and started trashing me, i simply replied. Anyways its abundantly clear this community is made up of really sensitive men/boys, if you can even call them that and there is no point in having a discussion.
Goldilux (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=EastWolfy,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3qLobYw2,comment-id=000b00000000000000000000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-02T21:44:08.620+0000) > > The fact that its an ad hominem attack doesnt mean its not true. Now the fact is you being so offended about some strong language is not an inherently masculine trait. Im simply using you as an example in my argument that this community is comprised of overly sensitive men that cant handle strong language.Now if you find it crude or in poor taste thats different but you are clearly offended. The truth sometimes can be disparaging but that doesnt mean it isnt true. My point being i think the community would be better if this sjw set morales wasnt such a strong influence. My example is the cs go community which i prefer since people embrace any sort of strong language anf just have fun with. I have a very strong bias against any form of censorship (i come from a post soviet country) so thats why it bothers me. this is the stupidest argument I have seen on the forums to date. youre saying this guy is overly sensitive when all hes done is tell you how your joke was a rape joke? you have got to be kidding me. youre attacking someone because they told you exactly why someone else said you made a rape joke. wtf is wrong with you? you that much of a snowflake that you cant handle when someone explains how youre being a jerkoff?
If youre offended by a rape joke, youre overly sensitive. All im saying is I think this community is a bit too sensitive.
: > [{quoted}](name=EastWolfy,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3qLobYw2,comment-id=000b00000000000000000000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-02T21:44:08.620+0000) > > The fact that its an ad hominem attack doesnt mean its not true. Now the fact is you being so offended about some strong language is not an inherently masculine trait. Im simply using you as an example in my argument that this community is comprised of overly sensitive men that cant handle strong language.Now if you find it crude or in poor taste thats different but you are clearly offended. The truth sometimes can be disparaging but that doesnt mean it isnt true. My point being i think the community would be better if this sjw set morales wasnt such a strong influence. My example is the cs go community which i prefer since people embrace any sort of strong language anf just have fun with. I have a very strong bias against any form of censorship (i come from a post soviet country) so thats why it bothers me. Not only do you assume I take your statements seriously, you also assume I am injured by them. The only person who appears to be actually offended is you. You have done nothing but throw insult this whole time. You're the one taking all the jabs at me and I'm explaining why you're taking those jabs at me and you keep taking more jabs. This basically tells me that you're trying to get me to stop dissecting your psyche because you don't like it when people can see through you. You coming from a post soviet country actually doesn't explain your disdain for social repercussions for your words. The government isn't here to monitor your words and you aren't going to go to jail for your words. You are being told that in this day and age, sexist jokes and rape jokes tend to offend more people than they make people laugh and that Riot believes sexist and rape jokes do not belong on their intellectual property. This game, this forum, everything you use that is Riot's, is theirs. Just like how you have the right to kick someone off your property if you don't like what they're saying or doing, Riot can kick you off of theirs too. You keep deflecting the issues by turning it into some kind of sob story or trying to insult me again. I clearly hit a nerve by reading you but I don't apologize for anything said because I haven't wronged you at all. You have been the aggressor the whole time. If you're able to stop being so defensive and hurt, maybe you can work on your behavior to be able to play league with other people. If not, just keep playing counter strike.
i meant offended by my chat logs not what i said in my replies..... Im not insulting you im just stating a fact, its usually women that are more sensitive to strong language(from my chat logs) not men (do you disagree with this?). How did u dissect my psyche ? If you want il explain to you my psyche in detail if you are interested. It does explain it, your censorship over what can or cant be said because you or someone is offended is reminiscent of the communist era when people would be trown in jail for expressing differing or offensive opinions. The underlying ideology is the same. I never disagreed that Riot doesnt have the right to allow whomever they want. Again my argument is that I believe the community would be better if it wasnt so sensitive and more like the cs:go community.
: It's not about being submissive, it's that words don't prove anything. If I feel the need to prove a point to an enemy player, I'll just redouble my efforts to outplay them, then when I do maybe you'll see me type out "Nope", or "Got em'", or "Nice try, maybe next time" at the most in chat. But words don't mean anything unless you have actions to back them up. The best way to retain your pride is not to out trash talk them, but to just outplay them consistently.
There is no redoubling my efforts that kid was 1 and 7 at like 10 minutes since why he trash talking me. So i trash talked him back and put him in his place. Everyone else in game was loving it, i dont see the problem.
: I would have agreed with you if the banter didn't involve hate-speech and imagery of rape. IF another person uses hate-speech while talking to you, you should report it or at least ignore it, not fire-back. I would like to direct you back to point #4 of my last comment. The game is for competitive strategy and skill, not for showing off creativity with language. There are 8 other people in the game who have to see what you wrote, so it's not just about whether the person who trash talked you has a thick skin. What you choose to say can still make the other people extremely uncomfortable. INB4 you say, "well they have a mute button so it's not my problem." Chat is intended for communication and banter, everyone tends to use it by default and they aren't going to start the game knowing that you are capable of saying such offensive things, so they are not going to know to mute you until after the damage has been done at least once. It is impractical to expect other people to avoid your behavior because they can't possibly know that behavior is on the horizon. Long story short, chat is a communal space. Everyone uses it. So you have to treat it accordingly. When you want to banter back and forth with other players, you must keep your own responses within the bounds of what is acceptable to everyone. Trust me, I've trash talked back and forth in all chat. And so far I have not been punished for it. I believe this is because I avoid crossing those lines into territory that people in general would consider unacceptable.
Okay but you cant use hate speech to censor anything you find offensive. The definition of hate is when someone incites violence against a certain group with their words. No court of law would ever consider this hate speech. You are really stretching the definition of hate speech to censor something that makes you uncomfortable. Nobody at all was uncomfortable and in fact my teammates were pissing themselves laughing at this kid getting absolutely destroyed verbally and in game. In fact you can argue it made the gaming experience better since it brought in additional humour.
: > [{quoted}](name=EastWolfy,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3qLobYw2,comment-id=000b000000000000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2018-02-02T09:44:39.245+0000) > > Look we clearly are two very different people. I played a lot of sports and work in finance. Guys in those areas of life arent sensitive at all most of the time and wouldnt be remotely close to as revolted as you are by some light trash talk. I dont know what you are but i suspect you are one of those sjw types that thinks everything is sexist or homophobic or w.e. Frankly i hate those type of people. I like an environment where i can be challenged so perhaps thats why I am okay with trash talk. Perhaps you didnt grow up in such an environment and thats why youre not sure how to react to it. If someone insults me I usually have a retort back with the appropriate amount of "colour". Considering the guy that was trash talking me was calling me a %%%got and a %%%%%% and other things i didnt think my reply back was over the top. Yes perhaps i shouldve just reported him but i enjoy coming up with witty responses, it makes the game more fun . After all who has the better trash talk outwits his opponent. All i did was standup for myself to what you would classify as a "bully" and what i would classify as just another "scrub". Again with the defensive barbs. You're trying to disparage me by claiming I am not as masculine as you are by calling me a social justice warrior in a derogatory way. You also assume that I dislike being challenged and you cite that you work in finance. Well I work in law and I deal with conflict and challenge on a daily basis, which also proves another point that not only do you assume, you are also trying to claim I am not as masculine as you are because you claim I do not handle conflict well. What you are doing here is ad hominem attacks, which is actually attacking me personally rather than the issues that are being discussed. In the legal world, ad hominem attacks are the attacks of the desperate as they actually have no basis or reason to be introduced outside of trying to frustrate the situation rather than resolve the situation. Facts and reasoning reign supreme and I will show you why in a little bit. There was absolutely no reason to go on this toxic ad hominem attack rant yet you chose to do so, which shows that you are actually very poor at handling conflict. If you rate your masculinity on how you handle conflict... creating two problems vs resolving one problem... you would be rated as rather inefficient in masculinity, would it not? Rather than having one problem and resolving it, you now have only created two. You chose to not resolve the first conflict by antagonizing and then created your own problem. All you did was dig yourself a hole to get out of and I will repeat myself: > [{quoted}](name=YerroFever,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3qLobYw2,comment-id=000b000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-02T00:07:40.392+0000) > > Masculinity can exist without being toxic. You equate toxic masculinity with masculinity and I do not. This is a fundamental difference in ideology which is futile to dispute... but back to the point where I said facts and reasoning reign supreme. If we actually strip away all of your ad hominem attacks against me, after this whole interaction where you passive aggressively call me a "bitch" and not "masculine," what you have left is an admission of guilt but no remorse and an indirect admission as to why you deserve to be punished. > [{quoted}](name=EastWolfy,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3qLobYw2,comment-id=000b000000000000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2018-02-02T09:44:39.245+0000) > >Yes perhaps i shouldve just reported him but i enjoy coming up with witty responses, it makes the game more fun . After all who has the better trash talk outwits his opponent. All i did was standup for myself to what you would classify as a "bully" and what i would classify as just another "scrub". Since facts and reasoning reign supreme, you should remember that Riot punishes everyone based on their own actions. If you continue to go down this path, because you know Riot's stances and rules, you will be permabanned. (P.S. you would define the person as a bully as well because you had to "stand up for yourself." If the person wasn't bullying you, then you wouldn't be standing up for yourself. You should really try to keep the ad hominem and passive aggressive insults out of things because all it does is undercut your own credibility and intelligence because you have to rely on trying to make someone back down out of emotional hurt rather concede that they were wrong about the situation and concede that you were right.)
The fact that its an ad hominem attack doesnt mean its not true. Now the fact is you being so offended about some strong language is not an inherently masculine trait. Im simply using you as an example in my argument that this community is comprised of overly sensitive men that cant handle strong language.Now if you find it crude or in poor taste thats different but you are clearly offended. The truth sometimes can be disparaging but that doesnt mean it isnt true. My point being i think the community would be better if this sjw set morales wasnt such a strong influence. My example is the cs go community which i prefer since people embrace any sort of strong language anf just have fun with. I have a very strong bias against any form of censorship (i come from a post soviet country) so thats why it bothers me.
: There's stuff you say I agree with and stuff I don't agree with, but you make one false assumption in this thread: You compare just normal League with pro-basketball. This is where you go wrong. If we meet competetively on the field/rift, you go ahead and trashtalk me all you want. Mind games are part of the game as far as I'm concerned. If we would meet in a random lol game, it's not the same.
you think you could take that sort of trash talk in real life one on one if you cant take in a video game? I mean from experience one is a lot more challenging to face than the other especially when the other guy is a lot bigger than you. Look at this video of Jeremy Lin bitching out in front of Kobe... you think thats easier than a video game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m75WKO-GVMQ&t=26s
idfc (EUW)
: 143games still level 0 unhonorable
you are forever dishonored because you have hurt someones delicate feelings. Now you must bend over and spread your cheeks and allow riot to ram you in the ass until your knees buckle from exhaustion. Then and only then will you be worthy of honor again.
: 1. I only pitched in on the toxic masculinity discussion because I saw a misunderstanding brewing between you and YerroFever - a misunderstanding that you - I might add - certainly helped along by deflecting and making insulting implications about people with differing opinions from your own. You should lay off the combativeness and underhanded insults, they don't help your case and they don't make you look like someone deserving of anyone's sympathy. 2. What the other person does is irrelevant, when you are punished by Riot you are punished for your behavior, just as the other person will be punished for theirs. 3. Getting someone back or bantering with them over trash talk is things like, "nice play ;)" after they lose a fight to you. Making implications and obscene depictions of sexual behavior with people outside of the game is not an acceptable form of trash talk. At least in Riot's game. You would be wise to not use this type of trash talk in this particular game anymore. 4. You're still using colorful language to try to dismiss people whom you disagree with. Another point to keep in mind is that league of legends is a strategy game for people to compete in, not an argument simulator for you to express your creativity with insults. Don't misuse it as such.
Okqy but im saying in this case where both those players used extremely colourful language to initiate some trash talk with me whats wrong with me retorting back. I mean if they use the words %%%got and %%%%%% as liberaly as they did they clearly have a thick enough skin to handle my trash talk. Wouldnt you agree that in this case it was justified.?
: > [{quoted}](name=EastWolfy,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3qLobYw2,comment-id=000b0000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2018-02-02T00:58:44.644+0000) > > what are you talking about "rape associated sexism"? Its just a joke .... sometimes people make crude jokes, its called loosening up once in a while. None of those things are masculine you sound like a middle aged woman. You are trying to sound masculine and your activities sound like arts and crafts day at a retirement community. Im just saying, crying over someone saying "you got dicked" is the epitome of being a bitch. Its just a bit of trash talk, remove the tampon that is firmly lodged between your cheeks, breathe and realize nobody died. Masculinity is defined with how you act when you are faced with confrontation. Just don't let it phase you. It has nothing do with ego or being macho. It clearly does have something to do with your ego and being macho. Otherwise, why are you so defensive about it? Why is it that you say that people who don't act the same as you are "not deserving" of the man title as you have previously stated? You're seriously just digging a hole here. The more you try to say it's not about being masculine while still trying to insult the fact that no one else here seems to agree with how you act... the more it seems your version of masculinity is a toxic version which needs reevaluation. If you had a traumatic experience, would you want people reminding you of it? You don't know who is on the other side of the screen and that's why you're being an asshole. You can be an asshole all you want but there are consequences. What you're asking is that everyone give you free passes but you don't give others free passes because they did something to you. Do you even see your hypocrisy? You say masculinity is defined by how you act when you are faced with confrontation, yet when you are faced with confrontation, you devolve into a screaming child spewing rape jokes, insults, and flame people. If being masculine means you have to be a child who doesn't know how to constructively handle antisocial behavior from others, then I don't want to be what you call masculine. I would rather be the "middle aged woman" that acts like a "bitch" because I would rather deescalate situation and walk away from people throwing a temper tantrum like an adolescent child who doesn't know what it means to have to face reality. Not only is it pitiful that you have to be so toxic to prove your masculinity because you're so afraid of being a "bitch" (see your example about the teacher, students, and parents knowing you're a bitch), but it's also pitiful that you have to demean others to feel better about yourself. You sound just like this guy I knew back in high school. He moved here from Texas in the 9th grade. He was the new kid but people really just left him alone because he was crazy racist and sexist and chauvinistic in his sense of humor. He ruined his family reputation by being such a confrontational asshole and after he graduated high school, his family moved and his little sister went to high school elsewhere. He's currently a mess, still unpopular as he moved out to CA and ran into one of my friends from high school last year and told my friend how miserable he was and how he wants to move back to Texas because people understand him there and that it's not his fault he's racist or sexist because he was raised that way. I hope you don't grow up to be him because it's sad and pathetic that rather than thinking "hey, maybe I should take other people into consideration..." he thinks "I need to find people who are just as racist, sexist, and chauvinistic as I am because I don't want to think that I may be regressive in my sense of humor" and that he's in his 30's and despite having lived that long and had to interact with east cost and west coast people, rather than be progressive and say not make sexist and racist jokes, he'd rather be comfortable calling african american people n------s and mexicans s-----s and telling women to get in the kitchen and make him a sandwich and acting like that same old 9th grader he was in his youth.
Look we clearly are two very different people. I played a lot of sports and work in finance. Guys in those areas of life arent sensitive at all most of the time and wouldnt be remotely close to as revolted as you are by some light trash talk. I dont know what you are but i suspect you are one of those sjw types that thinks everything is sexist or homophobic or w.e. Frankly i hate those type of people. I like an environment where i can be challenged so perhaps thats why I am okay with trash talk. Perhaps you didnt grow up in such an environment and thats why youre not sure how to react to it. If someone insults me I usually have a retort back with the appropriate amount of "colour". Considering the guy that was trash talking me was calling me a %%%got and a %%%%%% and other things i didnt think my reply back was over the top. Yes perhaps i shouldve just reported him but i enjoy coming up with witty responses, it makes the game more fun . After all who has the better trash talk outwits his opponent. All i did was standup for myself to what you would classify as a "bully" and what i would classify as just another "scrub".
SEKAI (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Lucyfür,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Etgm6EvA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-07-15T06:16:53.860+0000) > > {{champion:157}} 1/9/2 "gg ez" > {{champion:134}} 10/2/4 "but your team carried you..." > {{champion:157}} "which is why it was ez" His teammate: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/Atlas_Schloss_Linderhof.JPG/450px-Atlas_Schloss_Linderhof.JPG "Did someone say "_**GGEZ**_"??????"
LOL ive been in both situations...
: Smurfing/boosting destroys experience
: You're mistaking the term "toxic masculinity" as referring to masculinity itself as being toxic. As far as I know that is _not_ what it means. Toxic Masculinity specifically refers to behavior that is toxic that someone engages in because they think it makes them appear more masculine. It is possible to be assertive, clever, and to banter with enemies in ways that appear plenty masculine without ever involving toxic behavior. Have more confidence in yourself mate, if you've got to insult others in order to feel masculine then you're missing some really basic tricks in your toolkit for socializing.
okay but the guy was engaging with me the same way, so i simply had a bit of fun with him. Where is the harm in that? I do it because it was fun not because "it makes me more masculine". You guys brought that up..... i was just having a bit of fun with a guy that was trash talking me. You just simply get really easily offended over trash talk in a video game...... The fact that you use the word toxic masculinity to attempt to domesticate anyone that isnt behaving according to your social norms is a bit worrying. I suspect this is why western men have grown to be so fragile that even playful banter makes them shut their sphincters with such force that they could crack nuts with them.
: > [{quoted}](name=EastWolfy,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3qLobYw2,comment-id=000b00000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-01T23:49:54.119+0000) > > so what ? it means getting fucked like a bitch. It doesnt mean it isnt consensual. And even if it doesnt mean it is consensual then so what ? Toxic masculinity ? Are you one of those third wave feminists ? Toxic masculinity doesnt exist, its just masculinity. There is absolutely nothing toxic about masculinity. Like i seriously encourage you to participate in some sports or go out and just hang out with guys and just let yourselves act the way you want and not the way women taught you it is okay or not okay (obviously excluding criminal behaviour). I guarantee you will feel more liberated than you have ever felt before. > > And while no you dont have to be an asshole all the time, sometimes it is if fun to have humor related to those topics. What you are implying is that its never okay. I enjoy that sort of humour at times, dont really care if other people are offended. Last i checked we have something called free speech. Masculinity can exist without being toxic. You equate toxic masculinity with masculinity and I do not. The absurd number of assumptions in your statements and the fact that you have to protect your sense of self by attacking others who have a sense of masculinity that is different from your own shows that your masculinity is toxic. If you were comfortable with how masculine you were, you wouldn't need to be so catty to others about how masculine you are. You are partially correct in the thing you call free speech. You are free from government reprisal for protected free speech. You are not protected from the opinions of others which is why you are still free to express your masculinity in a toxic rape associated sexist and gender stereotyped way and I am free to express my masculinity in my own personally liberated way which includes rock climbing, hiking, horseback riding, cooking, art, music, video games, blacksmithing, archery, board games, urban farming, woodworking, and many other things that don't require me to tell rape jokes, be sexist, or attack other men's sense of masculinity to protect my ego.
what are you talking about "rape associated sexism"? Its just a joke .... sometimes people make crude jokes, its called loosening up once in a while. None of those things are masculine you sound like a middle aged woman. You are trying to sound masculine and your activities sound like arts and crafts day at a retirement community. Im just saying, crying over someone saying "you got dicked" is the epitome of being a bitch. Its just a bit of trash talk, remove the tampon that is firmly lodged between your cheeks, breathe and realize nobody died. Masculinity is defined with how you act when you are faced with confrontation. Just don't let it phase you. It has nothing do with ego or being macho.
: > [{quoted}](name=EastWolfy,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3qLobYw2,comment-id=000b000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-01T23:18:10.794+0000) > > jesus mate have you never had any male friends ever ? or played any sports ? like seriously? getting dicked ? as in you got fucked up? as in outplayed What Halcyon was talking about with rape jokes and what I'm directly pointing to is the verb "dicking" and that you even state that it means fucked up, ie a play on getting fucked... and based on the context, it seems like the enemy players aren't inting, you are alluding to rape. You can just as easily say "out played" instead of "dicked." Rather than this be a learning point, this is indicative of toxic masculinity as you said >any male that would be offended by such language would be rightfully considered weak and not worthy of their position. and you question whether or not I have any male friends at any point. You don't have to be an asshole to others to be a masculine... but to each their own. If you believe that masculinity is tied to being an asshole and rape jokes... you do you... Humor isn't exclusively tied to sexism, sexual assault, and gender stereotypes. People can be funny using other topics.
so what ? it means getting fucked like a bitch. It doesnt mean it isnt consensual. And even if it doesnt mean it is consensual then so what ? Toxic masculinity ? Are you one of those third wave feminists ? Toxic masculinity doesnt exist, its just masculinity. There is absolutely nothing toxic about masculinity. Like i seriously encourage you to participate in some sports or go out and just hang out with guys and just let yourselves act the way you want and not the way women taught you it is okay or not okay (obviously excluding criminal behaviour). I guarantee you will feel more liberated than you have ever felt before. And while no you dont have to be an asshole all the time, sometimes it is if fun to have humor related to those topics. What you are implying is that its never okay. I enjoy that sort of humour at times, dont really care if other people are offended. Last i checked we have something called free speech.
: Are you that easy to provoke?
yes and no. I mean if someone engaged me with trash talk they should expect it back no? And if they are engaging in it they should be able to take it. Right ? I had fun with it.
proliarides (EUNE)
: Is this worth 14 days?
this community is soft af. Anything that offends anyone is considered bannable. I suggest you stop giving money to riot games. Play a game like cs:go where it isnt filled with sjw pussies that need a safe space or they might kill themselves from some bad words. I say let natural selection do what it does best and thin out the weak from the herd.
Arammus (EUW)
: is it toxic to recommend someone glasses when he asks if he needs them?
if you scratch your ass the wrong way its going to be considered toxic and you are going to get reported. This community takes what toxic means to a whole new level.
: There's a thin line between trash talking and harassment... and overall in that chat log, I think you went far into harassment. Also, this is Riot's court and not the NBA's court. Riot sets the rules here and if Riot doesn't want your brand of trash talk, shape up or go play another game.
and i agree that riot makes the rules here. Im just wondering why the community seems to be made up of such docile males. In cs:go people trash themselves all the time and people have fun with doing it. And i dont think you wouldve thought i went too far if you saw the chat logs of the other guy who initially started harassing me. In my opinion if someone starts trash talking me they automatically open themselves up for some counter banter. Its not as if i just randomly started trashing this guy. The guys i hang out with its an unspoken agreement that if you trash talk you are probably going to get trash talked back. I know you are going to say just report him but to me that is the equivalent of getting punched and telling your teacher. I mean you know you are a bitch for doing that instead of standing up for yourself, the whole school knows you are a bitch and your parents know it too. Maybe thats just my opinion.
: > [{quoted}](name=EastWolfy,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3qLobYw2,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2018-02-01T23:01:21.143+0000) > > who said anything about rape? what is with the sjw crowd and their fixation on everything being rape. Colorful language isnt really colorful if its testing some limits. Perhaps it was overdoing it but from the environments that i circulate its definitely not overdoing it and any male that would be offended by such language would be rightfully considered weak and not worthy of their position. What did you mean when you told someone they got dicked?
jesus mate have you never had any male friends ever ? or played any sports ? like seriously? getting dicked ? as in you got fucked up? as in outplayed
: There's acceptable forms of trash-talking, but there are also unacceptable ones. My recommendation is to avoid direct personal insults, and to avoid making overly gross depictions of taboo subjects such as rape. Colorful language is fun and games until it is used with complete disregard for moral responsibility. If you had talked about someone's mother and sister like that in Korea you'd be permabanned on sight. And describing it in such detail was definitely overdoing it. Leauge is a game for strategy and gameplay skill, not a playground for you to show off your creativity with insults. And Riot will likely stand against it if you overdo it like this again in the future.
who said anything about rape? what is with the sjw crowd and their fixation on everything being rape. Colorful language isnt really colorful if its testing some limits. Perhaps it was overdoing it but from the environments that i circulate its definitely not overdoing it and any male that would be offended by such language would be rightfully considered weak and not worthy of their position.
: You view that behavior as part of what made them great? I view it as a stain on a beautiful career. Aggressive personalities are different from over-aggressive ones. One is able to see their visions through to the end and have the ability to take the risks that are needed, the other is an overcompensating joke. Aggressive personalities are able to make the cold decisions and should be applauded, where as over-aggressive ones are bound by their emotions to the point where they are an embarrassment to our species. If you can't remain composed in a stressful and competitive environment you don't belong there. You say the weak don't belong at the top, and I agree, but emotional instability is the largest weakness you can have, and that's the point I'm trying to make. If you can't control yourself and show your fellow man respect you are weak, regardless of any accomplishments you make.
its not over aggression until it affects your career. Considering these guys had near perfect careers their amount of aggression was just right. There is nothing emotionally unstable about being aggressive. Its part of being a man , if you have a decent amount of testosterone you are bound to be aggressive and/or assertive which is needed for any sort of leader. Anyone that is weak will say thats too much aggression because they cant handle it. My guess is that youve rarely had to come face to face with these types of behaviors. I on the other hand have been around them my entire life and consider them normal.
: If you're going to permaban my account, give me my money back.
if you have purchased rp recently you can call your credit card company and tell them to charge back riot games. They will ask why and more then likely you will be sent to an arbitration through the credit card companies in house legal counsel. I actually did this and got like 80 dollars back. Best thing to do afterwards is to just make a new account with bot smurfs and not buy anything. Flame away if you want and then just make another smurf. It takes me like 30 games to get back to platinum from a brand new level 30 smurf.
: You can get banned from professional sports and jobs irl for the things you say it happens to people Paula dean.. etc On a side note I actually laughed at these logs Get Rekt BOIII I almost threw my hat I know it's toxic but I read it in this like a memey accent idk but the whole Thresh U thing is clever "tips hat"
i dont know if there is a way to post the game will full chat logs, but its so much funnier to see the guy rage as the game progresses. He was saying i dont have an education to which i replied that whole thresh U thing . I dont know if there is a way to post the full game with complete chat logs but it was a pretty funny game to watch .
: How do people have time to write a novel and still play the game????
well when the enemy laner fizz is trash talking you and goes 1 and 8 in 10 minutes its pretty easy actually
: Well take a seat and be quiet son LUL
its rude to interrupt the professor ! {{champion:74}}
: Lol il switch my vote to yes just for you.
lol someone actually downvoted that comment even though it was in good spirits? Jeeze people these days are fucked ....
: > EastWolfy: you now have a degree in fuckology from the Thresh U > EastWolfy: itl get you a job as my bitch LMFAO HAAHAHha just this alone makes me forgive you and support you add me and well play a game this weekend
XD the guy was ranting on about how i dont have an education lol... if youre wondering what prompted this .... i really wish i could post this entire game full of chat logs ... it was such a cluster fuck but so funny. My teammates were pissing themselves laughing the entire game more or less.
: Careers? No. Their shit behavior? Yes. Pay attention. If you can't maintain your composure you don't belong at the top. This generation is soft because behavior like that shouldn't be acceptable, yet has become more and more common. Too many people didn't get put in their place when they were young, and that's a lesson more people need to learn the hard way. You can call people pussies and soft all you want, that doesn't make behavior like that any more childish than it is, and coming from people who are supposed to be role models makes it all the worse.
Shit behaviour ? Sure who cares though this is part of what made these guys great. Most people at the top are aggressive and extremely dominant irregardless of the field of work their in. Jobs and Gates and Buffet were massive dicks in their careers even though now they are focusing more on their PR image. Pretty much anyone in a high powered position will have an aggressive nature . It comes with the territory and we as a society accept it because the benefit they provide is so great. Now if you are too weak to deal with it you simply dont belong at the top of anything.
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: https://youtu.be/wdcJZv-rBT0
good post, on the flip side there is also a video of him harassing a teammate to the point of tears and making him leave practice. Im not saying there shouldn't be penalties for trash talk. Im just wondering what is or isnt acceptable because to me it seems nothing even slightly offensive is acceptable which is just stupid.
: Those games are understandable to give in and ff in. But what Im talking about are the ones in which either your team has a small lead and someone dies and just gives up because "gg cant carry twash team waaaaah, both teams are even but one person on either team just decides to say fluff it Im done because we havent won the game at 15, or when your team is slightly behind or behind but not enough to call for surrender.
totally agree with this, it always pisses me off when someone goes down 0-1 or 0-2 in like 10 mins and just says "just ff im done". Like do people expect to win lane every game?
: You're*
EVERYTHING IS TOXIC ! QUICKLY EVERYONE BACK TO THEIR SAFE SPACES{{summoner:4}}
: where can i find the riot banning terms and what is and not bannable
basically if you offend someone that is a delicate pussy, they will ban you. If you scratch your ass the wrong way they will ban you. If you even think about swearing they will ban you. I think im trying to say is .... get those smurf bots running and stop worrying about what you say.
: Mental fortitude? Are you joking? They acted unprofessionally. That is behavior that should be actively punished. Do you like watching man children on television mate? Do you like it when adults have temper tantrums and let their emotions drive them? It makes me sick. They lost the battle with their emotions and had an outburst that should embarrass them when they look back on it. That's not grit and mental fortitude, that's disgusting.
youre saying Jordan Kobe should be embarrassed of their NBA careers because they trash talked? are you retarded? They asserted themselves as the unquestionable best of their era thats what they did. This generation is soft af.
: That's not the game. The game has a mental side of trying to out smart your opponent, but trash talk is nothing like it. You're attributing something to the game that is not and should not be a part of it. Hockey has that stuff built in, but basketball, baseball, and even League do not. If you want that stuff in a game go play a game that has it. It's not about the words, it's about acting like an adult. If you can't even manage to do that why should you be allowed to play?
basketball does, again look at Jordan and Kobe they harassed guys so badly some of them left and they won championships for it. You know why ? because they werent massive pussies, they had grit and mental fortitude. From what im getting people in league are too soft to take this and need their safe space.
: This is very clearly excessive trash talking and warrants discipline. If you can’t see that you’re a moron but it doesn’t matter as Riot is obviously banning you.
so what warrants acceptable trash talk ?
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: Are your proud of yourself and your life? Because if this is how you are and you like it then I’m seriously concerned
: It's not more fun to just outplay someone straight up?
i do play them straight up, its just im not going to let someone harass me. I mean would you let someone harass you call you a "%%%%%%"(fizz did in game) and say all sorts of stuff and just not say anything? I mean are you that submissive ?
: > [{quoted}](name=EastWolfy,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3qLobYw2,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-01-31T22:37:29.840+0000) > > Youtube Kobe or MJ trash talking, they guys harassed guys to the point of tears (teammates and competitors) and never got banned. I wish more people here realized that. I hate seeing laughably inaccurate comments here upvoted from people who obviously have never watched or played sports. Its one thing to not want any trashtalking in League, but don't try to act like it isn't accepted in real sports.
Its because they grew up as sheltered pussies with anxiety riddled helicopter parents that never played sports or got in a school yard fight. =D vote damn it !!! we are losing
: I mean what's the point? What are you trying to prove? Saying something to make someone feel bad about themselves...what does that do for you? Can we not all agree that there is something wrong with deriving pleasure from causing others pain? When I compete all my good feeling comes out of watching myself do something good. Sadism, even in small doses, is not something to be encouraged. I agree that hopefully most people have a thick enough skin to just brush it off when someone goes in on them in a game. But I just don't get the point of going in on them in the first place. When I play LOL I don't want to tilt someone and then watch them suffer, I want to face them at their best, and beat them at their best, and walk away knowing I outplayed them. It's not just about winning, it's about EARNING your win. Why would you complain about banning something you gain no benefit from doing? Like when you see one of those signs that says "No shirt, no shoes, no service" Like yeah it's really not that harmful as in most cases it's not going to result in health issues, it's mostly just a precaution and to create a comfortable environment for others. But you don't think twice about throwing on a shirt when you on the way home from the beach and you stop at store because who cares? What were you really getting out of staying shirtless? That's how I view trash talk. What's the point? What is so fun about it that you can't handle a game where you're not allowed to do it? Is it really an integral part of the experience?
I agree there is no point since I dont tend to initiate it. However if someone starts in on me, im not just going shut up. Im gona talk back and humiliate them show them that it doesnt work on me. A lot of the time it does tilt them really hard and they end up dying like 15 times by the end of the game. Like in one of the games that i posted the fizz was trash talking to me right after first blood. Go watch the replay of that game and see how badly he got dominated. I got in his head and he was massively tilted making mistakes he probably wouldn't otherwise make. Also i enjoy messing with people that take this too seriously. Go watch the replay its actually a pretty funny game.
: No. One is playing a sport against a better player, the other is watching a colleague act like a child. It's poor sportsmanship and they should be ashamed of their actions.
but it does reduce the mental difficulty of the game, ive seen people get thrown of their game by trash talk. Its a part of the sport/esport. If you cant handle it you shouldnt play it imo. After all its just words.
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