: I Would Like To Call Bullshit On Blue Essence Gained Per Level-Up Being "Faster Than The Old System"
Don't forget they jacked the prices off a bunch of stuff up too, like charging 3500+ BE to get a mastery emote
Rioter Comments
Meteora (NA)
: Don't fix what isn't broken?
Sure, the old keystone masteries had their issues, but I thought (especially towards the end of the season) no more than a few tweaks were needed. Every rune had a purpose in the game and saw legitimate use. Some slight tweaks would've been nice but a complete overhaul seemed completely unnecessary to me...
Rioter Comments
6Sfool (NA)
: Nah. I'm American. I spell things phonetically. And that is coop-day-grace. Just like fiance is fi-ans, villa is pronounced with L's, and creme is just shitty spelling.
> [{quoted}](name=6Sfool,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wlE52WYB,comment-id=0016,timestamp=2017-11-13T00:36:29.736+0000) > > Nah. I'm American. I spell things phonetically. And that is coop-day-grace. Just like fiance is fi-ans, villa is pronounced with L's, and creme is just shitty spelling. Don't forget the letter "u" is a piece of shit, always spell it "color."
: Yasuo and zed can be outplayed easily
> [{quoted}](name=UnboundHades,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EHFgGtnP,comment-id=000000020000,timestamp=2017-11-07T22:36:52.000+0000) > > Yasuo and zed can be outplayed easily Yes I just love hitting skillshots on a champ that dashes through every one of my minions every half second. And I don't even play mid.
: It's the last day of League as we know it
I'll still hate {{champion:157}} though
Rioter Comments
: Pick-Ems: It's sealed.
imo considering the chances of nobody even getting a perfect pick in the first place, the prize needs to be increased from a few ultimate skins.
: Well, seeing as how I got Gold in 3v3, I figured I'd try my hand at Solo Queue for the chroma
YambrinZ (NA)
: Thats how balance works. The reason some champions never get picked or banned is because they are intentionally kept nerfed because if they ever get buffed to be viable, they will be first picked or banned. This isnt new, and it cant ever change. Because some champions kits hard counter other champions. Imagine if Riot buffed {{champion:17}} Q to blind for 6 seconds. He would instantly become a support because his basic ability makes another champion useless for 6 seconds. True balance can never exist in this game...unless you give every champion the same skills with the same damage...
> [{quoted}](name=Sun Zero,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=ErZb8MN7,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-29T11:15:35.687+0000) > > Thats how balance works. The reason some champions never get picked or banned is because they are intentionally kept nerfed because if they ever get buffed to be viable, they will be first picked or banned. This isnt new, and it cant ever change. Because some champions kits hard counter other champions. Imagine if Riot buffed {{champion:17}} Q to blind for 6 seconds. He would instantly become a support because his basic ability makes another champion useless for 6 seconds. True balance can never exist in this game...unless you give every champion the same skills with the same damage... Not sure if you didn't read the post properly or not, but the point I'm trying to make is that Kalista has close to a 100% Banrate in worlds. I'm certainly not trying to say she needs buffs because she's irrelevant
Mokomo (NA)
: A Yasuo Discussion
He needs to be changed no doubt. Not fun to play with, not fun to play against. Counterplay does not exist to key abilities like his W and the infinite dashes on his E, there is no way to know where he is going to dash. Bad in solo queue because nobody wants to build their comp around him, bad in pro play because he won't do anything unless the whole draft phase is ruined just for him. Not much place in the game, IMO
Rioter Comments
: does anyone enjoy shyvana passive?
I don't really understand why she has a passive that makes her better at killing her own family lol
: [GAMEPLAY] Bug/hack with people flashing multiple times
I don't necessarily want your footage but imo if you want anyone to take this post seriously you should add the footage to the post
: > [{quoted}](name=Ebolol,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2k6LQFVi,comment-id=000300000001,timestamp=2017-10-29T08:40:38.069+0000) > > Malz lacks decent waveclear at early-early levels. Around level 7 is when he can effectively clear them. Before then he is likely to be shoved in and miss a bit of cs as it can be hard to farm with him because of his AA animation and overall kit From my experience the problem is not that Malzahar lacks waveclear before level 7, the actual problem is how much mana he wastes waveclearing before getting a {{item:3802}}. After getting that item, Malzahar has no mana issues at all. However, before getting it, Malzahar struggles and will usually be outpushed by champions that do not use as much mana when waveclearing, especially because he relies on his voidlings to waveclear and they are easy to destroy. On my opinion this is a good thing because it means he has an actual, exploitable weakness that you can abuse.
> [{quoted}](name=YumaS2Astral,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2k6LQFVi,comment-id=0003000000010000,timestamp=2017-10-29T09:03:35.818+0000) > > From my experience the problem is not that Malzahar lacks waveclear before level 7, the actual problem is how much mana he wastes waveclearing before getting a {{item:3802}}. After getting that item, Malzahar has no mana issues at all. However, before getting it, Malzahar struggles and will usually be outpushed by champions that do not use as much mana when waveclearing, especially because he relies on his voidlings to waveclear and they are easy to destroy. > > On my opinion this is a good thing because it means he has an actual, exploitable weakness that you can abuse. I agree, the mana is a big part of it as well. I think in the end it's a combination of both
: Last minute advice for silvers who REALLY want Gold
Or you can just play janna and soraka
MysterQ (NA)
: Not at all. He has some incredibly safe waveclear at pretty early levels in the game.
> [{quoted}](name=MysterQ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2k6LQFVi,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-10-29T05:27:34.219+0000) > > Not at all. He has some incredibly safe waveclear at pretty early levels in the game. Malz lacks decent waveclear at early-early levels. Around level 7 is when he can effectively clear them. Before then he is likely to be shoved in and miss a bit of cs as it can be hard to farm with him because of his AA animation and overall kit
: Unpopular Opinion: Malzahar should honestly receive a nerf.
I think he's in a decent place. With that said, I think he has a 100% winrate (that or 1 loss) at worlds this year. Certainly an overlooked champion, but by no means overpowered to me.
Chermorg (NA)
: Let's look at your deaths - almost all of your in lane deaths are far past river if not under their turret. The statistics, gameplay, and the fact you said you were inting - it's hard to find a reason to believe you now. You don't just go admit to a crime you didn't commit, then assume that you won't be arrested and convicted for it when the other evidence points to you possibly having done it.
> [{quoted}](name=Chermorg,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=dK09xAop,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2017-10-28T22:30:05.559+0000) > > Let's look at your deaths - almost all of your in lane deaths are far past river if not under their turret. > > The statistics, gameplay, and the fact you said you were inting - it's hard to find a reason to believe you now. You don't just go admit to a crime you didn't commit, then assume that you won't be arrested and convicted for it when the other evidence points to you possibly having done it. That's not necessarily true at all from what I can comprehend. Majority of his deaths were middle of top lane, likely getting soloed by the Ornn multiple times or getting ganked. Especially when Ornn is a newish champion, it is easy for his newly buffed damage to catch some people off guard. He may have played the laning phase poorly, but simply getting outplayed by the opponent is not inting. Aside from that, he had deaths all over the map, not just on blue side. In addition to this, his 11 kills were all past river or in the enemy side of the map. This is easy to understand considering the game was dragged out to 120+ kills over 40+ minutes; he was not forced to be on his side of the map all game, he was grouping with his team to make plays. Additionally, he accumulated 234 CS, close to most on his team. He was pushing/defending lanes from creeps; something someone inting would ignore. He also had most damage to objectives, and his build was by no means what that of someone inting would look like (6 tear build, etc etc.) It appears to me like he just had a bad game, but he was also trying to make the most of his poor early laning phase later into the game by grouping for objectives and such. It is easy to understand why he got reported this game; his teammates were all doing well but he was feeding, someone likely reported him out of rage. I Remember when a certain pro player (will not mention his name b/c idk if it is breaking boards rules or not) went 1/27 in a 28 minute ranked game on stream (and inted in a many other games as well in that span,) but used the trump card of alcohol to avoid the ban. How is it that he wasn't punished at all for that? If Riot is going to suspend this player for having a bad game, but let this specific pro player slide with something incomparably worse, something seems off to me. Just because he's a pro player shouldn't mean he avoids punishment. League of Legends is not some hierarchy system based on rank. The players should be treated equally.
Yma S (NA)
: See this is why NA is trash tier. You all think you're special snowflakes when there is evidence to the contrary. In Asia rank means everything. People will respect you for having a high rank and defer to you since the rank is proof that you are better. People try to get better and dedicate themselves to play better. Or simply give up and play casually. Here in NA people throw tantrums make excuses and claim rank is meaningless because "one time I saw an x bronze beat a y gold" anecdotal evidence. I mean if getting high rank is so "easy" Why can't you do it? If a higher ranked person than me told me what I was doing wrong and told me how I can improve, and given that they are not actively trolling - I would listen to them and seriously consider what they have to say, instead of screaming like an autistic child and claiming that he got carried there.
You do realize there is a difference between constructive criticism and flaming, right? If someone from any rank is willing to respectfully tell me what I could've done better, I'm happy to listen and take it. When someone thinks they're big shit because they're higher rank and just tells me to 'stfu' because im 'silver trash' it's not easy to listen to what they're saying.
Kairya (EUW)
: No one should use their rank to validate their argument. If you have something to say, you should be able to proof it. This might be difficult in some cases, but it should be possible to offer a logical reason at the very least. Do you think a physics noble-prize winner can just declare new laws and formulas without getting some numbers to explain those conclusions? The opposite is actually true. The better someone is at something, the higher are expectations of others to receive qualified answers. But I have to mention this: There are also a lot of players who don't want to accept advice on principle. Occasionally it does pay off to listen to whatever others have to say, even if their way of sharing that bit of information is sometimes hard to digest.
I'm happy to receive advice or constructive criticism to improve - anything to get better at the game. Generally, it is just better to take it when it's along the lines of "hey, in the future you should...." rather than "kys silver pleb, get muted"
: completely agree, especially when you can even hear the crowd from mic check videos from riot itself
That too, I didn't think of that. By any chance, do you know which match it was where the crowd yelled baron that caused the team to turn to baron? I'd just like to see it out of curiosity
: I keep making the same freakin' mistake
Your teammates will suck sometimes, and there's nothing you can do about it. This is why the game's best players only have about a 53-55% winrate. Kind of sucks to be stuck in a meta where regardless of what you do, the game is in the hands of your ADC 90% of the time.
: Home advantage or unsportsmanlike action? (2017 Worlds in China)
The thing is, this is clearly a factor even outside of worlds. When watching broadcasts I have heard casters mention things such as "When you hear the noise of the crowd, you notice something is up" etc. I think this needs to change because no doubt it's a factor of what team decision making can be, even if it's not a big factor. Yes they have noise canceling headphones, and yes they do tend to 'zone in' to their games, but judging by the crowd's roar on the broadcast, it is hard not to imagine the players do not notice anything at all.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ebolol,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=o3ArqVAl,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2017-10-27T09:10:36.723+0000) > > The hotfix isnt live Are you joking or are you joking. I literally played a game yesterday, before I posted that comment, in a game where at 500 ap the q only did 25% or so of their max health in dmg. A lot less than it would've been if it didn't.
> [{quoted}](name= ŁøveMÿADC,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=o3ArqVAl,comment-id=000900000000,timestamp=2017-10-28T06:35:28.147+0000) > > Are you joking or are you joking. I literally played a game yesterday, before I posted that comment, in a game where at 500 ap the q only did 25% or so of their max health in dmg. A lot less than it would've been if it didn't. When I made this post they hadn't even announced the hotfix
: Are players really surprised by ADC dominance when people begged riot to nerf mages and assassins?
Same thing with tank galio. They complained about a tank midlaner, and got a broken ap mage lol
: I don't know how he played or how you played, so I am not defending any one. I am just suggesting there is more to, than just looking at 0/6. May be he got camped hard, may be he had a bad day, that doesn't mean he isn't using his brain or may be his skill/game knowledge suddenly vanished. He got to plat or diamond or whatever rank he has, for a reason. It might not be showing in that particular game, because that might not be his main role or main champion but still you can't take away from the fact that he knows more about the game that is why he got higher ranked than you. IF he didn't get camped, and when you blame that person for losing 1v1, that is just adding fuel to the fire. All he has is his rank to rebuttal the flame in that particular game.
> [{quoted}](name=Slice n Dice em,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WHcO6WeK,comment-id=00160000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-28T03:50:25.201+0000) > > I don't know how he played or how you played, so I am not defending any one. I am just suggesting there is more to, than just looking at 0/6. May be he got camped hard, may be he had a bad day, that doesn't mean he isn't using his brain or may be his skill/game knowledge suddenly vanished. He got to plat or diamond or whatever rank he has, for a reason. It might not be showing in that particular game, because that might not be his main role or main champion but still you can't take away from the fact that he knows more about the game that is why he got higher ranked than you. IF he didn't get camped, and when you blame that person for losing 1v1, that is just adding fuel to the fire. All he has is his rank to rebuttal the flame in that particular game. I don't care if my teammates feed, that stuff happens. The point of the post is saying that just because someone is a higher rank doesn't give them the right to flame their teammates and act like everything they do is correct just because of their rank. Do they know more about the game than me? Probably. Does that give them the right to blame me, and call me trash, when they are the ones feeding their lane, just because they have a higher rank? No. It's a matter of respect. They have a border, a summoner icon, and it's all over their profile, their rank. They don't need to rub it in and act so high and mighty because of it, and it doesn't give them the right to lose lane and blame their teammates because they're 'high elo' (which gold-plat isnt anyways) so everything they must be doing is right.
: well hashinshin feeds his ass off in 9/10 games so may be it might be, since he knows how to win the game. Just look at his champion KDA's it's plain awful. To an untrained eye, he might be toxic, feeding and flaming his jungler 24/7, but in actuality he does know how to play his lane and the game. He would probably be top 10 challenger, if he cared. And that is the reason why top challenger players do respect him and diamonds (junglers especially) just hate him, because they can't comprehend what he does.
> [{quoted}](name=Slice n Dice em,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WHcO6WeK,comment-id=001600000000,timestamp=2017-10-28T02:28:53.304+0000) > > well hashinshin feeds his ass off in 9/10 games so may be it might be, since he knows how to win the game. Just look at his champion KDA's it's plain awful. To an untrained eye, he might be toxic, feeding and flaming his jungler 24/7, but in actuality he does know how to play his lane and the game. He would probably be top 10 challenger, if he cared. And that is the reason why top challenger players do respect him and diamonds (junglers especially) just hate him, because they can't comprehend what he does. I know KDA isn't everything but with all due respect if you are trying to convince me that there is strategy behind feeding in lane then you need to rethink things lol
: > I don't care that you're getting a flashy gold or plat border and a victorious skin, it doesn't mean everything you do in the game is the right decision and I need to quit the game. But it does mean, that the higher ranked guy is doing something better than you, no? Or it does mean, that although to you it may be a wrong decision but in actuality it's a right decision, no? Since he is higher ranked, it at-least tell that he used something, he might have used his brain to get that rank, no? {{sticker:sg-ezreal}} Just askin no need to hate...
> [{quoted}](name=Slice n Dice em,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WHcO6WeK,comment-id=0016,timestamp=2017-10-28T01:16:41.345+0000) > > But it does mean, that the higher ranked guy is doing something better than you, no? Or it does mean, that although to you it may be a wrong decision but in actuality it's a right decision, no? Since he is higher ranked, it at-least tell that he used something, he might have used his brain to get that rank, no? {{sticker:sg-ezreal}} Just askin no need to hate... Sorry but I have a hard time being convinced that going 0/6 in lane is a secret plat strategy that wins games
: I had a Jinx ADC call me a bronzy and tell me that building Guinsoos was the best option vs their armor stacking *1 person, two had tabi* team. They also said it was a good ADC item every game, and told me "muted bronzy" Yes
> [{quoted}](name=DepressedTomoko,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WHcO6WeK,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2017-10-27T20:43:32.380+0000) > > I had a Jinx ADC call me a bronzy and tell me that building Guinsoos was the best option vs their armor stacking *1 person, two had tabi* team. They also said it was a good ADC item every game, and told me "muted bronzy" > > Yes lol I'm no stranger to that person, the funniest part is they legit never actually mute you. Never.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ebolol,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WHcO6WeK,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-10-27T12:40:27.796+0000) > > Anyone can get to plat basically if they have enough time on their hands. I've seen sub-50% winrate players in diamond 1. I both agree and disagree with that statement. If you have enough time to spend on league you will generally improve and learn how to do things better. That being said I know a guy who has been playing league slightly longer than me and about the same amount as me, hes hard stuck silver 5 with 1,000,000 mastery points on ahri. Hes simply bad at the game and refuses to learn. If you ask anybody whos really talented at something, League, cooking, art, sports, etc. They will tell you that all they do is practice. Practice takes time, times let you improve.
> [{quoted}](name=Im A Cracker,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WHcO6WeK,comment-id=000200000003,timestamp=2017-10-27T21:42:50.832+0000) > > I both agree and disagree with that statement. If you have enough time to spend on league you will generally improve and learn how to do things better. That being said I know a guy who has been playing league slightly longer than me and about the same amount as me, hes hard stuck silver 5 with 1,000,000 mastery points on ahri. Hes simply bad at the game and refuses to learn. > > If you ask anybody whos really talented at something, League, cooking, art, sports, etc. They will tell you that all they do is practice. > > Practice takes time, times let you improve. Yeah the statement has a bit of exaggeration in it. I have friends who've played since s2, s3 or whatever and hover around low bronze to silver or whatever. With that said, it's not to say that games played has no impact on your rank. More games generally equals a higher rank. Yes I am silver and no I do not have a right to say I am of higher rank, but I'm sure I could at least get somewhere higher if I had more than ~40 ranked games this season. Ranked isn't that fun of an experience for me, but sometimes I feel I have to grind out ranked games just to get these golds/plats/whatever people in my normal games to stop talking.
: Hi, I think its more the circumstances in the game rather than what others are saying to you. If you are playing with smurfs, the kda of these smurfs do matter. Calling you trash and silver garbage isnt going to solve anything, but neither is an angry post in the league of legends boards talking about how ignorant those people are. If you are going 1-10-0 in a game and other people are criticizing you on your decision make, you should be listening on what they are saying and improving for future games. (calling you silver trash is not criticism) Most smurfs wont even tell you they are smurfing unless they are either 1- Not smurfing and boosted or 2- actually smurfing from diamond 3+ and confident in their gameplay.
> [{quoted}](name=SmoothBlockModel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WHcO6WeK,comment-id=0012,timestamp=2017-10-27T21:50:20.702+0000) > > Hi, > > I think its more the circumstances in the game rather than what others are saying to you. > If you are playing with smurfs, the kda of these smurfs do matter. Calling you trash and silver garbage isnt going to solve anything, but neither is an angry post in the league of legends boards talking about how ignorant those people are. > If you are going 1-10-0 in a game and other people are criticizing you on your decision make, you should be listening on what they are saying and improving for future games. (calling you silver trash is not criticism) > Most smurfs wont even tell you they are smurfing unless they are either 1- Not smurfing and boosted or 2- actually smurfing from diamond 3+ and confident in their gameplay. Thanks for your insight, but I just need to express that generally the people saying this stuff are feeding and I'm doing half decent. It's a pretty basic concept that when you're 1/10 you have something to improve on in the laning phase or whatever. This isn't a rage post because I fed in a game and someone told me I was doing bad, it's more or less just me just using my experience to convey the concept of how just because someone is a higher rank than someone else, doesn't mean what they say is more relevant and that their knowledge holds value. Some people don't have the time or mental endurance to play 500 ranked games per season, and the ones who do shouldn't go around acting all high-and-mighty, even if they think or know they are better players.
Rioter Comments
Kloqdq (NA)
: Ranked is rarely a true show of a person's skill and game knowledge. Yes, if you have 500+ games and you are B5, I think you may not be the most convincing, but it's pretty easy to see the different between a guy with 20 games in silver probably doesn't care about ranked as much compared to a guy with 300 games in plat who clearly cares. You can be knowledgeable and actually skillful but don't play ranked.
> [{quoted}](name=Kloqdq,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WHcO6WeK,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-10-27T16:08:08.386+0000) > > Ranked is rarely a true show of a person's skill and game knowledge. Yes, if you have 500+ games and you are B5, I think you may not be the most convincing, but it's pretty easy to see the different between a guy with 20 games in silver probably doesn't care about ranked as much compared to a guy with 300 games in plat who clearly cares. > > You can be knowledgeable and actually skillful but don't play ranked. And this is what pisses me off because I only have ~40 ranked games and my normals elo puts me in matches with gold/plat/low diamond players often. It's frustrating when they start arguing and when I say basic stuff (with nothing disprespectful) like 'why didnt you come help me drag' or I try to shotcall, they always play the rank card on me, and suddenly everything I say is irrelevant because they are 'plat' and i'm 'silver trash' and the reason they're feeding is because they 'don't try in normals'
: [PBE] Urgot nerf on PBE is too harsh
Hey, if Urgot is going to take over the game from his changes (which he won't anyway) than by all means. Give him a chance rather than making the same champions who have been relevant for the past few years become OP again.
Rioter Comments
: Rank is pointless. I see my bronze friend win easily against gold/plats sometime. They probably aren't doing there absolute best but neither is he. Rank is hardly a good indicator of how good you are now, when people bring it up it's just silly. I can't take anyone seriously who brings up their rank like it means something. The only discussion people can come up with in game are either insults about your rank or that you suck at this game. It's disgusting.
> [{quoted}](name=Nick Da Chip,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WHcO6WeK,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-10-27T12:26:34.691+0000) > > Rank is pointless. I see my bronze friend win easily against gold/plats sometime. They probably aren't doing there absolute best but neither is he. Rank is hardly a good indicator of how good you are now, when people bring it up it's just silly. I can't take anyone seriously who brings up their rank like it means something. The only discussion people can come up with in game are either insults about your rank or that you suck at this game. It's disgusting. Anyone can get to plat basically if they have enough time on their hands. I've seen sub-50% winrate players in diamond 1.
: I'm sorry, but I can't help to laugh at people who do lack of research and post about something that was obviously getting hot fixed. Also, after it's hot fixed, they don't even delete their post. What the heck.
> [{quoted}](name= ŁøveMÿADC,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=o3ArqVAl,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2017-10-27T06:57:32.094+0000) > > I'm sorry, but I can't help to laugh at people who do lack of research and post about something that was obviously getting hot fixed. Also, after it's hot fixed, they don't even delete their post. What the heck. The hotfix isnt live
: Are you bronze just asking not judging.
> [{quoted}](name=blackops III,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WHcO6WeK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-27T04:33:18.157+0000) > > Are you bronze just asking not judging. nah silver, thats where it comes from
: Serious Talk: People need to chill out about the Balance Team
These people make mistakes too, a game will never be perfectly balanced. Balancing a game of 130+ champions isn't so simple.
Rioter Comments
Dkims (NA)
: I Have A Dream That One Day iBlitzcrank's Hook Will Be Fixed
For preseason I suggest Riot goes through a bunch of abilities in the game and re-looks at their hitboxes and respective animations. If they really want they can just ask the boards for a list because we've got plenty of salty players who've been hit by hooks standing behind minions or have thrown a skillshot right through an enemy.
: The game doesn't force you to 50% any more than any elo system does.
League in general is a game that isn't really in your own hands. You're above average play can only shift your overall winrate a few percent, but majority of it relies too much on your teammates. The best players only have winrates of 52-56% usually, and I've seen D1 players with a sub-50% winrate.
Sahn Uzal (EUW)
: Hey folks, Galio's hotfix is here.
Good for Riot to see their mistake (after countless boards posts lol) and take matters into their hands and fix the issue. Nice to get some justice.
Goroh (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Ebolol,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nZVPxAJN,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2017-10-26T17:57:34.798+0000) > > I'll just have to repeat myself then. Yes i can read. Zed building {{item:3156}} opposed to {{item:3147}} first item is completely different than a champion like {{champion:111}} building {{item:3075}} instead of {{item:3068}} or {{item:3800}} . The difference is, a tank's job isn't to run around and assassinate targets, their job is to TANK. so in a teamfight if you have {{item:3800}} instead of {{item:3075}} you're infact less tanky, you just get a burst of movement speed to get into the position you want. OR instead of rushing {{item:3800}} you can use many other engage tools that champions have, for example {{champion:111}} {{champion:78}} {{champion:57}} {{champion:59}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:33}} {{champion:54}} . The extra 300 mana righteous glory gives you in comparison to popping {{item:2033}} before you dive in just doesn't matter. {{item:3075}} doesn't just strictly help you 1v1, it gives HP, which is good for tanking anything, and gives 80 armor, which is insane for any champion early on with AD. If i were to choose between {{item:3800}} and {{item:3075}} on any tank with engage, i would be choosing {{item:3075}} . And if you're building {{item:3075}} against a top laner that is AD, theres already 2-3 champions you're already not going to take damage from in an early teamfight, because your ADC is going to be AD, and your enemy jungler is probably going to be AD. And if your top laner is the only AD, then you wouldn't be building thornmail because there would be no point.
> [{quoted}](name=Goroh,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nZVPxAJN,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2017-10-26T18:10:58.480+0000) > > Yes i can read. Zed building {{item:3156}} opposed to {{item:3147}} first item is completely different than a champion like {{champion:111}} building {{item:3075}} instead of {{item:3068}} or {{item:3800}} . The difference is, a tank's job isn't to run around and assassinate targets, their job is to TANK. so in a teamfight if you have {{item:3800}} instead of {{item:3075}} you're infact less tanky, you just get a burst of movement speed to get into the position you want. OR instead of rushing {{item:3800}} you can use many other engage tools that champions have, for example {{champion:111}} {{champion:78}} {{champion:57}} {{champion:59}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:33}} {{champion:54}} . The extra 300 mana righteous glory gives you in comparison to popping {{item:2033}} before you dive in just doesn't matter. {{item:3075}} doesn't just strictly help you 1v1, it gives HP, which is good for tanking anything, and gives 80 armor, which is insane for any champion early on with AD. If i were to choose between {{item:3800}} and {{item:3075}} on any tank with engage, i would be choosing {{item:3075}} . And if you're building {{item:3075}} against a top laner that is AD, theres already 2-3 champions you're already not going to take damage from in an early teamfight, because your ADC is going to be AD, and your enemy jungler is probably going to be AD. And if your top laner is the only AD, then you wouldn't be building thornmail because there would be no point. I understand they're not the same thing, I'm just trying to give a comparison. The point I'm trying to make is just that Thornmail's role in league is now different than it was before, but it's still balanced and works. I appreciate you trying to justify your points very much, but I think we're just too far from a common ground to reach an agreement. Enjoy your day :)
Goroh (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Ebolol,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nZVPxAJN,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-10-26T17:29:23.187+0000) > > I understand your concept, but to put it into perspective, bramble/thornmail is the same concept as hexdrinker/maw. With hex/maw, you trade off the assassination capabilities of lethality and such with stats and a passive to do better against your lane opponent. Where a toplaner may want to rush, say, Righteous Glory for grouping and initiation power, they instead trade off the extra stats and passive to survive against their lane opponent. It's not often a toplaner will straight up rush Thornmail just like a mid lane assassin won't rush a maw straight up, even if they do just build bramble vest or hexdrinker. What they miss out on if they do is significant enough to balance it out. Just because the item's purpose has shifted doesn't mean it doesn't have a place in the game anymore. but that's just the thing, often the toplaner will just rush thornmail so that they can do as they please, then go righteous glory. I don't really understand how you're comparing the 50AD and 40MR on maw, for say {{champion:92}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:23}} into say {{champion:8}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:68}} against Any of the above mentioned tanks, into any of the above mentioned brawlers. Thornmail gives 80armor, 250 health, rebound damage, grievous wounds, and 15% attack speed reduction, vs Maw's 50AD, 40MR, 10CDR, AP shield, and lifeline. You will definitely see tanks opting to rush thornmail more than seeing those brawlers rush Maw into close-range AP bruisers.
> [{quoted}](name=Goroh,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nZVPxAJN,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-10-26T17:40:42.140+0000) > > but that's just the thing, often the toplaner will just rush thornmail so that they can do as they please, then go righteous glory. I don't really understand how you're comparing the 50AD and 40MR on maw, for say {{champion:92}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:23}} into say {{champion:8}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:68}} against Any of the above mentioned tanks, into any of the above mentioned brawlers. Thornmail gives 80armor, 250 health, rebound damage, grievous wounds, and 15% attack speed reduction, vs Maw's 50AD, 40MR, 10CDR, AP shield, and lifeline. You will definitely see tanks opting to rush thornmail more than seeing those brawlers rush Maw into close-range AP bruisers. I'll just have to repeat myself then. If a zed, for example, goes hexdrinker first item, it will take them significantly longer to get their duskblade, their item of choice. Duskblade's passive gives them much greater assassination power in the early to midgame to snowball them. However, by delaying this through hexdrinker, they may fair better in the mid laner 1v1 match up but their roaming and such is greatly hindered. If, say a Cho'Gath goes bramble vest, then much like duskblade, their righteous glory for example is delayed which means it takes them much longer to be able to group with their team to force fights in the early to midgame. Furthermore, they trade off the mana of bramble vest giving them less sustainability in lane, but the tradeoff is they get an item that will allow them to fair better in strictly the 1v1 matchup at top. Can you just build duskblade/righteous after? Yes. Does the powerspike come as soon though? No. Therefore your early to midgame is greatly hindered when this is a critical part of the game. It helps you strictly in the 1v1 matchup. And plus, the majority of champions bramble counters are champions who you don't want to 1v1. A Cho'Gath sitting in lane letting a tryndamere or fiora get 10 cspm is not going to be a good tradeoff when he becomes a splitpush threat. The option is there, but at a cost. It is not the do all end all of specfic matchups.
iVIEWBOT (NA)
: my ban is not fair. riot please respond (chatlogs)
With all due respect dude why are you pretty much posting the exact same thing expecting to get upvotes after your other post got downvoted into oblivion? I suggest you just mute everyone and focus on the game; hard to imagine being able to play properly if you are writing a 5 paragraph essay to your teammates every minute.
Kloqdq (NA)
: Oddly enough, haven't seen a single video as of yet.
I can't be bothered to link you, but I'd be surprised if nothing came up if you searched AP Galio montage. Also keep in mind it's only been like a day since these changes hit the live server so just you wait lol
Goroh (NA)
: Thornmail
I understand your concept, but to put it into perspective, bramble/thornmail is the same concept as hexdrinker/maw. With hex/maw, you trade off the assassination capabilities of lethality and such with stats and a passive to do better against your lane opponent. Where a toplaner may want to rush, say, Righteous Glory for grouping and initiation power, they instead trade off the extra stats and passive to survive against their lane opponent. It's not often a toplaner will straight up rush Thornmail just like a mid lane assassin won't rush a maw straight up, even if they do just build bramble vest or hexdrinker. What they miss out on if they do is significant enough to balance it out. Just because the item's purpose has shifted doesn't mean it doesn't have a place in the game anymore.
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