Falrein (EUW)
: Forget that Empress, there can only be one true Sovereign
{{champion:268}} The only Empire that matters, it's the Empire of** SHURIMA**.
: It's not, but it doesn't serve any narrative to go back to the point in the lore where everything was just 100 different stories happening independently of each other either. Removing his ties to the Shadow Isles further isolates the Isles, which is already suffering from lore neglect, and also removes a very interesting way that necromancy interacted with the Isles without originating from the Isles themselves.
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ATb2PkWy,comment-id=0000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-30T22:47:19.526+0000) > > It's not, but it doesn't serve any narrative to go back to the point in the lore where everything was just 100 different stories happening independently of each other either. Removing his ties to the Shadow Isles further isolates the Isles, which is already suffering from lore neglect, and also removes a very interesting way that necromancy interacted with the Isles without originating from the Isles themselves. I dont think that the Shadow Isles needed Mordekaiser and neither i think that the Shadow Isles are isolated or suffering from lore neglect (In fact, we just got a new story about the Isles: THE ECHOES LEFT BEHIND)... And new Mordekaiser himself is far from being "isolated", because his ties with Noxus are stronger than ever now. The Isles already have a strong connection with Bilgewater and the Kingdom of the Ruined King... Sure, we dont know where it was that Kingdom or if it is a current Kingdom of Valoran, but it is a place different from the old kingdom of Mordekaiser. Having 3 different "kingdoms/kings" in the same place was too much and Mordekaiser was not doing a lot... The Blessed Isles already had tons of evil, cursed, and magical items appart from the magical curse that the King did AND the magical water from the Isles... Do you really think that throwing an extra cursed skull to the mix was needed? Mordekaiser clearly being separated from the Isles strengthen the idea that Necromancy is not something exclusive to the Shadow Isles and other undead champions could be benefited with that (Pyke, Amumu and even Sion or Fiddlestiks) And Interactions between the Isles and other undeads can still happen in the lore since the Harrowing can happen any time, any place... so, we could see Mordekaiser interacting with champs from the Isles in a future lore update.
: It's literally in the first paragraph of this excerpt. _**"From the Shadow Isles comes a champion like no other"**_ And according to the Wiki, he launched with the line above (which you previously posted), binding him to the Shadow Isles, whereas his second and third lore retcons didn't explicitly connect him to the Isles anymore (the second of which you've changed your post to). It took his 4th retcon, which will soon be replaced by the VGU, to rebind him to the Isles.
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ATb2PkWy,comment-id=00000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-30T20:53:31.743+0000) > > It's literally in the first paragraph of this excerpt. > > _**"From the Shadow Isles comes a champion like no other"**_ > > And according to the Wiki, he launched with the line above (which you previously posted), binding him to the Shadow Isles, whereas his second and third lore retcons didn't explicitly connect him to the Isles anymore (the second of which you've changed your post to). It took his 4th retcon, which will soon be replaced by the VGU, to rebind him to the Isles. My bad, as i said, the first lore that mentioned the shadow isles was quickly changed to the second one in order to take away the mention of the Shadow Isles from his lore. The point is that its not the first time that Riot removes the Shadow Isles from his lore.
: Yes he did. Once he had resurfaced, he had established a base there and was subjugating the restless undead to use as an army for him to assault the mainland and reclaim what once was his. He didn't ORIGINATE from the Shadow Isles, nor did he have a vested interest in anything on the Isles other than making an army, but he was connected to them.
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ATb2PkWy,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-05-30T20:45:07.724+0000) > > Yes he did. Once he had resurfaced, he had established a base there and was subjugating the restless undead to use as an army for him to assault the mainland and reclaim what once was his. He didn't ORIGINATE from the Shadow Isles, nor did he have a vested interest in anything on the Isles other than making an army, but he was connected to them. No, no no, i wasn't talking about the _current_ Mordekaiser... i was talking about the ORIGINAL one (after the beta). >_ "The common perception is that the encompassing armor protects him, I fear that - for the fragile time being - it actually protects us."_ - Rozuel Fecirem, Arch Adjudicator, noted in Mordekaiser's eligibility evaluation > During the most recent winter solstice - when no other night during the year is longer - a being like no other emerged from the forgotten alleyways of Noxus. Standing eight feet tall, and concealed within a razor-sharp armored shell, he came to be known only as Mordekaiser. > > The nature of what lies beneath his metallic carapace is a popular subject of speculation. Many allege that he is a mortal man with a heart that has hardened to iron. Others insist that he is a dark specimen of the undead. But there are some who whisper warnings that he is merely a foreshadowing of something terrible and unprecedented yet to come. Despite the public conjecture and curiosity, none have discovered what lies beneath his alloyed exterior. What is known is this: Mordekaiser arrived unannounced at the Institute one day and, with a rasp that crept ice up the spines of all within earshot, requested to join the League of Legends. > > Upon glimpsing his fearful visage, most keep their distance, fortunately unaware that his touch bears a sinister scourge. Those who stumble within his grasp fall victim to incurable maladies. In fact, Mordekaiser seems mystically attuned to sickness, as if it feeds and comprises part of his chilling essence. He now stalks the slums of Noxus, drawn to the plague-ridden and diseased. > > However, there is something in his clever tactics, something in his noble stance, and something in the tone of his unearthly commands that has led many to believe that Mordekaiser is more than just a foot soldier. Some see the distinguishing characteristics of a general. While many have learned to accept the evidence of this unsettling possibility, a lingering question keeps them wary at the witching hour: if Mordekaiser is a general, what nightmarish legion lurks at his command? https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Mordekaiser#2nd However, i must also mention that the first lore of Mordekaiser mentioned the Shadow Isles once but it had no importance and it was quickly changed because no other champion had connections to the Shadow Isles back then (Not even Karthus)
: Except his new lore removed any connection he has to the Shadow Isles. For whatever insane reason Riot chose to completely downgrade his lore and isolate him as a character.
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ATb2PkWy,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-30T00:53:01.920+0000) > > Except his new lore removed any connection he has to the Shadow Isles. For whatever insane reason Riot chose to completely downgrade his lore and isolate him as a character. To be fair, the original Mordekaiser did not had connections to the Shadow Isles as well.
Pale Mask (EUW)
: Mordekaiser Special Interactions
WHERE IS MY SPECIAL INTERACTION FOR KLED? https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/Y2j3fMmF-idea-for-an-awesome-mordekaiser-kled-special-interaction At least he has one for Veigar.
: In Morde's new joke he literally swats a Poro away
That sounds like Veigar levels of Evil.
: The List of Riot's Unfavored Children (Champions w/o Login Screen Theme)
So, you are saying that the champion has to have a login screen with music where he or she appears in his or her classic appearance in order to not be in the list? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FkNJZla8MQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T0Aot8zRDk Because Katarina is the original one. But i know that you are not talking about that... the real point of this thread is "thematic music for these champions" So, here are some champions without login screen have thematic music created by Riot. {{champion:32}} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AvWV6Mk374 {{champion:53}} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVbNyR5h6IQ&list=PLbAFXJC0J5Gb9hzEYU5buZd4udIuIUheP&index=5 {{champion:112}} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FlbUukLJos&list=PLbAFXJC0J5GaHkc_-9cmRD_oTd--qUZRK&index=6 {{champion:45}} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKXcLjJCLF0 {{champion:35}} (and {{champion:117}}) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmnLRSHJSg8
: Problems I have with Wukong and the technique of "Wuju Style"
As you said, the Wuju Style is more than a fighting technique... it is "**discipline, patience** and combat" Just like the Shaolin Kung Fu combines Zen Buddhism and martial arts.
: Vote for a Champion VGU for 2020!
Great its a popularity contest instead of choosing the one that needs it most.
: Time and Age of Champions
The game lore was not the same in 2009, back then Time in Runeterra passed at the same time of Earth... But the Retcon changed everything and the lore can tell things that happened 1000 years ago or in the "present"... Present that has no conection with our present.
: -shrug- just because they are Noxian does not mean they are going to be just like all the others. Like Jinx is from Piltover but is trying to blow it up and is crazy whereas Caitlyn, Jayce, and Vi are more of the hero.
> [{quoted}](name=Silly Neeko,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Yjj0k4lx,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-04-24T01:37:37.247+0000) > > -shrug- just because they are Noxian does not mean they are going to be just like all the others. > > Like Jinx is from Piltover but is trying to blow it up and is crazy whereas Caitlyn, Jayce, and Vi are more of the hero. Jinx is from Zaun.
: Pantheon is the next VGU, Roadmap would be live within minutes
{{champion:240}} Trespassers beware and stay away from the walls, for nowhere is safe when you enter ~~deep into these jungles. ~~ EVERYWHERE
: > [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=qOU7ihdW,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-12T17:20:25.271+0000) > > My guess is that she doesn't have normal ears > She's a vastayan and i think those fox ears are her ears > > She has normal ears on Dynasty Ahri, but doesn't seem to have any trace of normal ears on any other skin I think arcade ahri might actually be deaf. Her ears are fake. Either that or she has human ears under those headphones. Or maybe shes not even ahri at all. Whats with that random mark on her face!? and the blue eyes? I think arcade ahri is an imposter.
> [{quoted}](name=WyvernEgg,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=qOU7ihdW,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-04-12T17:26:19.499+0000) > > I think arcade ahri might actually be deaf. Her ears are fake. Either that or she has human ears under those headphones. Or maybe shes not even ahri at all. Whats with that random mark on her face!? and the blue eyes? I think arcade ahri is an imposter. Arcade Ahri is a human that went to the videogame world and gained videogame powers or something like that, she is not the same Ahri.
d00mface (EUW)
: Thank you, Riot, for wharf rats!
> [{quoted}](name=d00mface,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=OxoqGUii,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-04-04T22:01:41.347+0000) > > Also, do you think wharf rats and poros would get along if they met? Would they fight? Would they share snax? I think that the poros would become the new snax.
: Lucian's In Trouble
I dont think that all the creatures of the Isles can come back from the death if they are killed by "special" means. In fact the lore mentions that Ledros came back because of his strong determination... Not everyone has that.
Jaspers (EUW)
: Unless Riot suddenly come out and retcons how Yordles even exist, no, their technology is just that. Technology. Heimerdinger builds things, Ziggs is good with explosives and chemicals and Tristana owns a BFG that shoots cannonballs. While out dated, Teemo's poison isn't from Bandle City, it's from the Kumungu and Heimerdinger made Yi's goggles.
> [{quoted}](name=Jaspers,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=XN1AohRz,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-26T15:36:33.243+0000) > > Unless Riot suddenly come out and retcons how Yordles even exist, no, their technology is just that. Technology. Heimerdinger builds things, Ziggs is good with explosives and chemicals and Tristana owns a BFG that shoots cannonballs. While out dated, Teemo's poison isn't from Bandle City, it's from the Kumungu and Heimerdinger made Yi's goggles. Im not sure about this, but i heard that the Yi goggles were retcon and now they were made by someone else.
Arakadia (NA)
: At least Maokai's new model and splash are very clearly Shadow Isles.
> [{quoted}](name=Arakadia,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ExPdY9Af,comment-id=0007000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-24T09:23:00.189+0000) > > At least Maokai's new model and splash are very clearly Shadow Isles. This is very clearly what Riot would make is he was truly a Shadow Isles champions from the beginning: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/7/7a/Maokai_HauntedSkin.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20181021074930 But the current Maokai does not look like this because his original model was not created to be from there.... and Riot wanted to sell skins.
: Btw, I don't think Maokai really has to look _undead_ to make sense for the Shadow Isles. He is a tree, so undeath most likely doesn't influence him in the same way like it would an animal. Maokais design _really_ doesn't read _Zaun_ either. He doesn't look technology or chemistry based, he looks _magical_, which qualifies his Shadow Isles origin pretty well in my opinion. When it comes to looks, he makes _much_ more sense as a Shadow Isles champion for me than a Zaunite.
> [{quoted}](name=SatomiKun,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ExPdY9Af,comment-id=0007000000000001,timestamp=2019-03-24T10:15:08.614+0000) > > Btw, I don't think Maokai really has to look _undead_ to make sense for the Shadow Isles. He is a tree, so undeath most likely doesn't influence him in the same way like it would an animal. > > Maokais design _really_ doesn't read _Zaun_ either. He doesn't look technology or chemistry based, he looks _magical_, which qualifies his Shadow Isles origin pretty well in my opinion. > > When it comes to looks, he makes _much_ more sense as a Shadow Isles champion for me than a Zaunite. He looks more magical now, but his original splash art was more oriented on chemistry with weird chemicals coming from his mouth... and its not like Zaun doesnt have places with plants and things like that. The point is that a living being living in the Shadow Isles defies the whole point about the Shadow Isles. Anyways, I think that it would make way more sense for him to be from Kumungu or something like that.
: I think Victor doesn't use Hextech. Jayce destroyed the only Brackern crystal in his possession and the following raid of Jayce's laboratory to retrieve more crystal shards was unsuccessful.
> [{quoted}](name=DerMangoJoghurt,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=am5at4EB,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-03-24T12:31:15.467+0000) > > I think Victor doesn't use Hextech. Jayce destroyed the only Brackern crystal in his possession and the following raid of Jayce's laboratory to retrieve more crystal shards was unsuccessful. The Crystals are only one type of energy that Hextech uses, Heimerdinger and Ziggs also use Hextech and they dont have Crystals as well.
: Mages In Piltover/Zaun
> [{quoted}](name=Ir Abelas,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=am5at4EB,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-03-23T20:27:25.464+0000) > > Every region has a mage, and in the lore, every region has at least some mention of how mages are viewed, and their roles in society, except for Zaun and Piltover. Yes, I'm aware for gameplay purposes that Viktor is classified as a mage, but in the lore, he's just a scientist, albeit, an incredible one. Actually in the Lore Viktor should be classified as a mage as well, because Hextech is classified as a magic.... as you said: Hextech, which is a huge source of income for the dual city states, is in itself magic.
: Alright, looked that stuff up and hell, am I glad that they changed it. The current version of Zaun is so much better in my opinion, them having a forest with a dragon living in it is kinda weird... And Twisted Fate used to get his teleporting powers from a scientist in Zaun, like what?!
> [{quoted}](name=SatomiKun,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ExPdY9Af,comment-id=0007000200000000,timestamp=2019-03-23T17:55:32.042+0000) > > Alright, looked that stuff up and hell, am I glad that they changed it. > > The current version of Zaun is so much better in my opinion, them having a forest with a dragon living in it is kinda weird... And Twisted Fate used to get his teleporting powers from a scientist in Zaun, like what?! I kinda agree with you, but the fact that Maokai does not fit with the rest of the creatures from the Isles is because he was not created to be from the Shadow Isles. Sure, Riot invented that weird water to make an excuse of why Maokai looks the way that he does now... But i feel it forced, he would fit better in an actual jungle or forest.
: Maokai from Zaun? Whut? How did you come up with that idea?
> [{quoted}](name=SatomiKun,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ExPdY9Af,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2019-03-23T13:26:57.262+0000) > > Maokai from Zaun? Whut? How did you come up with that idea? Twisted Treeline was a Zaunite field of Justice when Maokai was created, they changed the map to the curret one on October 17, 2012. That is why Maokai does not look like an undead creature... because his original desing was not related to the Shadow Isles.
: Um... Maokai was always from the Shadow Isles. Hell in his first lore he was a tree from the Twisted Treeline.
> [{quoted}](name=Gold Light,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ExPdY9Af,comment-id=00070002,timestamp=2019-03-23T16:13:39.845+0000) > > Um... Maokai was always from the Shadow Isles. Hell in his first lore he was a tree from the Twisted Treeline. You must be "new" here... The thing is that Twisted Treeline itself wasnt from the Shadow Isles, it was a Zaunite Field of Justice when the League of Legends was canon. And Maokai was created there by accident in a match between Zaun and Piltover... The monsters of Twisted Treeline had nothing to do with undead creatures and the Boss of that map was not Vilemaw, it was "Ebonmaw, the Terror of **Zaun**". http://apollo-eu-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/1423228324728/TwistedTreelinewards.jpg For that reason, Maokai looks like a "normal" tree instead of the non-canon undead skin that makes more sense for a character from the Shadow Isles. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/86/91/88/869188d822eeaaa6c3845d60e667062d.jpg
: If you could revert a champion lore update who would it be?
Maokai, he was created to be from Zaun, not the Shadow Isles. ... also: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8AspKoPQCgk/hqdefault.jpg
: Few questions on yordles
Im not 100% sure about all of this but: > Are yordles vastaya or vastayashai’rai? No, im 100% sure of this one. > Why can they travel to the spirit realm? Magic? i guess.... > Are they strong when compared to humans(magic and strength)? They all have innate magic, so, they are stronger in that regard. As for strengh, if we look at Tristana, Rumble and Poppy, it seems that they can carry heavy objects (The weapon of Trist for example) without efford, so i guess that they are stronger as well. (Also, Kled) > Do all yordles come from bandle city? As far as i know: No, Gnar is not from Bandle City since he is from ancient times. > What is bandle city? A city.
Lewanor (NA)
: Some thoughts on how Talon got his name and his connection birds, owls to be exact
Friendly reminder that English, Spanish, German, etc are not actual languages that people in Runeterra speak. Just because Talon means talon in english or Leona means Female Lion in spanish, it doesnt mean that those champs must have a relation with those things. The only exceptions are Bard, Wolf and Lamb since their names are translated in every language as far as i know.
: Legality of Marrying Kindred
"She""Her" Kindred are two beings.
Zapzya (OCE)
: Memorial for old Kayle (some pictures to remember her)
You call that "old"? https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/5/56/Kayle_Render_old.png/revision/latest?cb=20180803230501 https://www.mmogamer.es/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Kayle-Old.jpg https://static.bonusstage.com.mx/uploads/2018/02/571e7f98-8658-4faa-b789-fa7aaedca14b.jpg https://static.bonusstage.com.mx/uploads/2018/02/70cc2116-292a-48c1-bf62-a14c4c6de588.jpg
: Is Diana the Key to Defeating the Darkin? [Lore Dive]
Maybe she turns them into darkerkins instead.
: Runeterra and Mental Illness
"maybe even teemo?" The lore of Teemo actually mentions that he goes insane when he is in solo missions.
: GUYS, TEEMO IS A DEMON AND ITS ONLY RIGHT FOR TRIST TO HAVE A COMPLEMENTARY DEMON SKIN
Rumble has a skin related to Galaxies and its only right for Trist to have a complementary galactic skin.
: Why Do You Play A Champion?
I play a champion because playing as a neutral monster would be awkward, trust me, i tried.
: So who do you think is getting the Cat skin for the Cat v Dog Event?
: The comic's feel too much like Marvel
Well.... technically... those ARE Marvel comics, just saying.
: I would say Jhin's attractiveness tends to come from his interesting personality and his voice. I do agree it sort of doesn't help OP's argument as he's not conventionally attractive, but she is not the only one I've seen say that they find Jhin attractive. I think what straight men find attractive and what straight women find attractive can vary wildly. Sure, girls like the shirtless dudes and such, but I also think a fully-clothed suave guy is equally likely to be attractive as well, depending on execution. Personality and voice play a big factor for me personally.
> [{quoted}](name=AbiwonKenabi,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=sT65vohO,comment-id=000a0001,timestamp=2019-02-21T19:45:55.077+0000) > > I would say Jhin's attractiveness tends to come from his interesting personality and his voice. I do agree it sort of doesn't help OP's argument as he's not conventionally attractive, but she is not the only one I've seen say that they find Jhin attractive. > > I think what straight men find attractive and what straight women find attractive can vary wildly. Sure, girls like the shirtless dudes and such, but I also think a fully-clothed suave guy is equally likely to be attractive as well, depending on execution. Personality and voice play a big factor for me personally. Sure, the voice and personality can be important... but he is literally an insane assasin. But, to be fair, some people find Jinx and Lamb atractive as well.
Lapis (OCE)
: We need more hot guys in this game!
Wait... Jhin... WHAT? I know that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" but... Jhin? he wears a mask all the time... and is an homicidal maniac... in fact he wears TWO masks. How the hell he can be "hot" if no one has ever seen him (and the ones that did, died)?
: > [{quoted}](name=Ebonmaw Dragon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=i73IU2Jd,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-20T23:33:36.254+0000) > > {{champion:78}} "A Demacian, a Noxian and a Freljordian walk into a tavern." > {{champion:78}} "The barkeep asks, 'What'll it be?'" > {{champion:78}} "The Demacian says, 'Uh, I'll have a wine.' No, wait, an ale! Yeah... " > {{champion:78}} "Then the Noxian says, 'I'll have a... a wine.' Yeah, he wants a wine." > {{champion:78}} "And the Freljordian says, 'I'll drink anything, so long as--- ' Wait, hold on, let me start over." FUCK CAMILLE WAS THE REAL THIEF ALL ALONG unless... Poppy stole that too?
> [{quoted}](name=NoxianVirtuoso,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=i73IU2Jd,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-02-20T23:50:10.851+0000) > > FUCK CAMILLE WAS THE REAL THIEF ALL ALONG > > unless... Poppy stole that too? {{champion:131}} "A man, a woman and a yordle walk into the sun. They die! Because it burns them alive? Heh heh heh heh."
: Kayle is a thief
{{champion:78}} "A Demacian, a Noxian and a Freljordian walk into a tavern." {{champion:78}} "The barkeep asks, 'What'll it be?'" {{champion:78}} "The Demacian says, 'Uh, I'll have a wine.' No, wait, an ale! Yeah... " {{champion:78}} "Then the Noxian says, 'I'll have a... a wine.' Yeah, he wants a wine." {{champion:78}} "And the Freljordian says, 'I'll drink anything, so long as--- ' Wait, hold on, let me start over."
: Kayle Rework, yet another "Light is actually totalitarian and evil" angle.
Kayle was supposed to be a tyrant since her original lore, that is not new.
Ataraxas (NA)
: Forcing lore not to have and good and evil is just stupid
Zoli Ben (EUNE)
: What is it? Big, crazy, insane and a doctor?
I acutally believe that he should be a Doctor, because GUESS WHAT? He is NOT a real doctor... for now.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ebonmaw Dragon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=wyHk9ExN,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T00:39:15.931+0000) > > No, because the "Fabulous Taric" was already an established meme, in other hand, Kayle is known for her armor. As much as Taric was known for his shield? > Sylas was just released, i bet that people will keep complaining about that in the future. I bet they won't. Because it pays more to complain about women than men. > Because the new one looks nothing like the original concept of Kayle and came out of nowhere. Hmmm... Wings - check Swords - check Voiceover - check Epicness - check Divine features - check She is changed as much as Swain was changed. BTW, I didn't see anyone mad about him as well.
> [{quoted}](name=BoringLittleF,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=wyHk9ExN,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T00:46:56.028+0000) > > As much as Taric was known for his shield? > > I bet they won't. Because it pays more to complain about women than men. > > Hmmm... > > Wings - check > > Swords - check > > Voiceover - check > > Epicness - check > > Divine features - check > > She is changed as much as Swain was changed. BTW, I didn't see anyone mad about him as well. Dude, people ALWAYS complain about reworks, they did complain about the hair of Swain and his ultimate. And as i said, it is explained in the lore of Taric why he doesnt use his hammer and shield anymore, in other hand there are no reasons of why Kayle would not use her armor (actually i can think one reason: its easier to fly without a heavy armor,.. but that is not the point)
: > [{quoted}](name=Ebonmaw Dragon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=wyHk9ExN,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-02-19T00:27:02.009+0000) > > ACTUALLY, alot of people complained about Taric not having his shield and hammer, but unlike in the case of Kayle, it is mentioned in the lore of Taric that he used a hammer when he was in Demacia. But did they complain about his looks? > And people complained about Sylas as well. They got quiet in weeks. Kai'Sa shitstorm emerges each time a "problematic" skin comes out. > This is not about having a "pretty character", its about changing the main theme of the character... The armor of Kayle was a huge part of her character. Imagine what would happen if Mordekaiser became a random undead dude with a mace instead of a walking armor. And what makes Kayle a random chick all of sudden?
> [{quoted}](name=BoringLittleF,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=wyHk9ExN,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-02-19T00:29:57.477+0000) > > But did they complain about his looks? No, because the "Fabulous Taric" was already an established meme, in other hand, Kayle is known for her armor. > They got quiet in weeks. Kai'Sa shitstorm emerges each time a "problematic" skin comes out. Sylas was just released, i bet that people will keep complaining about that in the future. > And what makes Kayle a random chick all of sudden? Because the new one looks nothing like the original concept of Kayle and came out of nowhere.
: You know, people never complain about the male characters being sexualized...
ACTUALLY, alot of people complained about Taric not having his shield and hammer, but unlike in the case of Kayle, it is mentioned in the lore of Taric that he used a hammer when he was in Demacia. And people complained about Sylas as well. This is not about having a "pretty character", its about changing the main theme of the character... The armor of Kayle was a huge part of her character. Imagine what would happen if Mordekaiser became a random undead dude with a mace instead of a walking armor.
: Why have bulky armor when you're meant to fly, heal, and become invincible?
{{champion:27}} Why have a giant bottle of random poison in your back and a random shield if the only thing that you do is running around throwing people? A lot of old champion designs make little sense, but that is the way they are, i cant imagine Singed without his giant bottle for example, the same goes for Kayle and her armor... Its something iconic of that champ.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ebonmaw Dragon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ztZ0VOkM,comment-id=00060003,timestamp=2019-02-18T21:40:01.201+0000) > > Keywords: Under her helmet > > The original Kayle was not feminine and a lot of people thought that she was a male when the game was released... and that was on purpose. The only reason of why the "Unmasked Kayle" skin exist is to show that she is a woman. > > https://static.bonusstage.com.mx/uploads/2018/02/70cc2116-292a-48c1-bf62-a14c4c6de588.jpg I knew she was a woman before I picked her for the first time. No guy has a waist that narrow and wears a midriff armor, lol.
> [{quoted}](name=BoringLittleF,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ztZ0VOkM,comment-id=000600030000,timestamp=2019-02-18T21:42:55.602+0000) > > I knew she was a woman before I picked her for the first time. No guy has a waist that narrow and wears a midriff armor, lol. well, no human being has pizza feet, but the graphics of League of Legends 2009 were limited.
: Why do you hate feminity so much? Kyle has always been feminine under her helmet.
> [{quoted}](name=BoringLittleF,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ztZ0VOkM,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-02-18T18:26:27.194+0000) > > Why do you hate feminity so much? Kyle has always been feminine under her helmet. Keywords: Under her helmet The original Kayle was not feminine and a lot of people thought that she was a male when the game was released... and that was on purpose. The only reason of why the "Unmasked Kayle" skin exist is to show that she is a woman. https://static.bonusstage.com.mx/uploads/2018/02/70cc2116-292a-48c1-bf62-a14c4c6de588.jpg
: Gotta say: Not a fan of Kayle's new look.
Back in my times, Kayle was supposed to be the "Samus" of LoL, almost no one knew that she was a female because of the armor... but now? it is obvious. So, i agree with this post. I mean, do you remember the first League of Legends video of Kayle vs Morgana? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzMnCv_lPxI That AWESOME face reveal?
: What does Ezreal DO in Demacia?
What what? Everyone knows tha Ezreal has nothing to do with Demacia at all. Jarro Lightfeather in other hand, oh man, he has done tons of things.
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