: dam what confirmed they werent in the same universe?
> [{quoted}](name=rollerskate,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=5nohEREO,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-12-12T19:28:46.787+0000) > > dam what confirmed they werent in the same universe? It was some Rioter comment right when Zoe came out. Same one that hinted that DJ Sona might be connected to it. > [{quoted}](name=GreenLore,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=5nohEREO,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-12T19:30:09.306+0000) > > I think they eventually clarified that Project is only linked to the program-skinline(including iblitzcrank) and nothing else. That comment in question said they might connect them back though.
: is Cyber Pop Zoe and PROJECT/Program in the same universe?
It was confirmed they're not, although it was hinted that she's in the same universe as DJ Sona.
: > [{quoted}](name=EdgeLady,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=RczcRYcq,comment-id=000000030000,timestamp=2018-12-12T16:02:18.932+0000) > > Next Eclipse event? I hope...{{sticker:sg-janna}} Im afraid it wont happen since we just got it
> [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=RczcRYcq,comment-id=0000000300000000,timestamp=2018-12-12T16:07:12.401+0000) > > Im afraid it wont happen since we just got it There could be another event next year sometime, even if we have to wait though. :D There are just too many neglected champions who could have skins befitting that line.
: > [{quoted}](name=Carnival Knights,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=RczcRYcq,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-12T03:06:25.408+0000) > > Yep! You'll be getting a short story. Wait... Blood moon gets one but Eclipse doesn't T_T dont do us like this
> [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=RczcRYcq,comment-id=00000003,timestamp=2018-12-12T14:24:29.140+0000) > > Wait... Blood moon gets one but Eclipse doesn't T_T dont do us like this Next Eclipse event? I hope...{{sticker:sg-janna}}
: I didn't even realise Jax got a face reveal in his God Staff skin.
Well well. Is this the "sand troll" that's got all the Jax fans up in arms? Or something else entirely?
: Well, it's not up to you if you think the kit is still "quite good" or not. Another thing, don't be quoting every one of my comments in your own responses. Especially if the person YOU are responding to had a rather lengthy comment like my own had. There's no logical sense to doing so, I certainly haven't, it needlessly bloats out the comment chain and it's just proper etiquette not to.
> [{quoted}](name=Whyte Lyon,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=VvoyYc1A,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-10T06:46:23.274+0000) > > Well, it's certainly not up to you if you think the kit is still "quite good" or not. Quite good as in, it's still viable and not sad like poor {{champion:82}}.
: I reckon Zilean's rework is going to be the biggest challenges the dev's will have to undertake someday. Hopefully that's sooner rather than later.
> [{quoted}](name=Whyte Lyon,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=VvoyYc1A,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-10T05:01:02.118+0000) > > I reckon Zilean's rework is going to be the biggest challenges the dev's will have to undertake someday. Hopefully that's sooner rather than later. I hope it won't be a full rework; his kit's quite good, maybe needing a few tweaks here and there. A visual update though? Absolutely. He still has whipped cream hair.
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: If you want more lore I guess you might have heard that comics will be coming out? That progresses the Story timeline and should give you lots of time to connect witht he champions and runeterra
> [{quoted}](name=The Iceborn,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=gUezfrw8,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-09T09:55:00.900+0000) > > If you want more lore I guess you might have heard that comics will be coming out? > That progresses the Story timeline and should give you lots of time to connect witht he champions and runeterra I think the comics are going to be mostly character-focused side stories dedicated to fleshing out the environments and personalities of the champions/side characters and show more "everyday" life; big events would definitely be an in-game thing.
: One thing for sure, his visuals certainly don't match the native setting Zilean belongs to and neither does the clock. Which is why im surprised the devs (seemingly) want to maintain Zileans origins to the desert country. The continent of Shurima being Runeterra's quasi-equivalent to Africa, having a pale skin tone man seems at odds. Just as an observation, but Zilean's "Shurima Desert" skin has more grounding than default Zilean. But what's the alternative? Icathian's were somehow European looking? From an area of the world so close to the planet's equator and most tropical zone that should be extremely unlikely. Then with the that shiny, gold cog-work clock, one could be forgiven if they thought Z was from or connected to Piltover in some way. Especially since a spring-driven clock has far more of a Piltover motif than ever a Shurima one. The time displacement obviously can explain that he got it from some future, but if the future is available to you, why the heck would the technology exceed only to a clockwork device? _____ For my two cents on a Zilean VGU. Because there are a lot of wild opportunities the devs could explore and some of which would require big changes. So I have fingers crossed tight for a Galio-level rework, a complete overhaul.
> [{quoted}](name=Whyte Lyon,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=VvoyYc1A,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-10T00:35:52.447+0000) > > One thing for sure, his visuals certainly don't match the native setting Zilean belongs to and neither does the clock. > > Which is why im surprised the devs (seemingly) want to maintain Zileans origins to the desert country. The continent of Shurima being Runeterra's quasi-equivalent to Africa, having a pale skin tone man seems at odds. Just as an observation, but Zilean's "Shurima Desert" skin has more grounding than default Zilean. But what's the alternative? Icathian's were somehow European looking? From an area of the world so close to the planet's equator and most tropical zone? > > Then with the that shiny, gold cog-work clock one could be forgiven if they thought Z was from or connected to Piltover in some way. Especially since a spring-driven clock has far more of a Piltover motif than ever a Shurima one. The time displacement obviously can explain that he got it from some future, but if the future is available to you, why the heck would the technology exceed only to a clockwork device? > > _____ > For my two cents on a Zilean VGU. Because there are a lot of wild opportunities the devs could explore and some of which would require big changes. So I have fingers crossed tight for a Galio-level rework, a complete overhaul. Well since Zilean is constantly going back and forth through time, there's a lot that can be done with his lore to fit his design. Who knows, either he himself or his ancestry could have been from somewhere in Valoran. And as for the clock, it could be redesigned to give more of a Shuriman/Icathian look, but he also could have gotten it from present Piltover/Zaun, for all we know.
: Imagine if we get a champion that lives on another continent that is not on the map
We still don't know where {{champion:9}} {{champion:35}} or {{champion:54}} come from (although I have the feeling the last is going to end up an elemental spirit of some kind, like {{champion:40}}).
: Ok, I have one complaint about League lore.
{{champion:4}}? His parents are almost certainly still alive in the Serpentine River clan. Speaking of him, {{champion:104}} told {{champion:41}} that his mom died while he was in prison, 5 years before present day, but he never said anything about his dad.
MS exceI (EUNE)
: Riven shouldn't be a Noxian anymore
I think part of the issue here is {{champion:141}}. He's a Noxian in looks, behavior, all, yet since he now calls Ionia his home, he's labeled as an Ionian. So why not {{champion:92}}? Or, if she's still labeled as Noxian, why isn't {{champion:141}}? He's far more "Noxian" by definition than she is anyway. And even his other half, Rhaast, has since been revealed to be of Shuriman origin.
: Why doesn't Hecarim get to buy two pairs of boots?
> [{quoted}](name=Rathar Dashing,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=B9LpRBhi,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-12-07T15:25:45.068+0000) > > Why doesn't Hecarim get to buy two pairs of boots? Or Rek'Sai, for that matter?
: Neeko will be the first champion whose release skin is legacy
Well hopefully it means that said champion will be guaranteed to get another skin within that one year timespan. Neeko's skins will definitely sell, so with her it's a bit more of a guarantee, but... I'm looking at you, Kled. Don't make the only non-Halloween choice of skin Sir Kled again, Riot. Give him something good outside of Legacy. Speaking of which, Taliyah still needs a non-legacy skin herself.
: Probably a dumb question but if Nami can buy boots, why can't Cass?
{{champion:161}} and {{champion:101}} can also buy boots somehow. Don't ask how they make them go faster. Magic?{{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
iiGazeii (NA)
: If Neeko Thinks Graves needs a bath...
And what about Singed, who smells so "nice" that Twitch wants to chase him?
Zyranium (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=EdgeLady,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=UYfhyqLq,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2018-12-06T15:40:35.659+0000) > > Ah that would explain why she specifically says that it was Camille and not her who did the murder in Piltover, since Tahm goes to there, Zaun, and Bilgewater. > > But what about Nocturne? He seems to hunt Demacians too. Maybe they're just really gullible. I think the lore you are mentioning was given to her before her actual rework, she was an assassin for hire at the time, now she's just a demon, and that's the thing I miss the most about her old lore.
> [{quoted}](name=Zyranium,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=UYfhyqLq,comment-id=000300010000,timestamp=2018-12-06T20:16:15.130+0000) > > I think the lore you are mentioning was given to her before her actual rework, she was an assassin for hire at the time, now she's just a demon, and that's the thing I miss the most about her old lore. Yeah that's part of why I don't like her character as much as Tahm's. Tahm seems like a guy that can get to you through your own weaknesses, which is what a demon should be. But Evelynn just kills people, often by making them do stuff against their will.
Rioter Comments
Zyranium (EUW)
: It is mentioned that she is located near Demacia by the lore, as she was the demon that killed Vayne's parents and crossed the high walls of petricite. Evelynn also has a secret cult in the mountains of North Demacia, so she might get free sacrifices without even moving a finger. Demons have territories, and it is stated by her quotes towards Tahm Kench. her hunting-ground is near Demacia, as Tahm Kench was seen in Bilgewater.
> [{quoted}](name=Zyranium,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=UYfhyqLq,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-12-06T03:33:52.051+0000) > > It is mentioned that she is located near Demacia by the lore, as she was the demon that killed Vayne's parents and crossed the high walls of petricite. > > Evelynn also has a secret cult in the mountains of North Demacia, so she might get free sacrifices without even moving a finger. > > Demons have territories, and it is stated by her quotes towards Tahm Kench. her hunting-ground is near Demacia, as Tahm Kench was seen in Bilgewater. Ah that would explain why she specifically says that it was Camille and not her who did the murder in Piltover, since Tahm goes to there, Zaun, and Bilgewater. But what about Nocturne? He seems to hunt Demacians too. Maybe they're just really gullible.
FireToa (NA)
: Snowdown 2018 Login Theme ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYW6ASNZNmg And here we go.
: > [{quoted}](name=Stars Shaper,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=rAB49oPR,comment-id=0001000300000000,timestamp=2018-12-05T19:52:34.161+0000) > > Good to know, I asked because I was browsing the skinline and except Elise all of them were strictly humanoids. well, there's also kennen
> [{quoted}](name=Carnival Knights,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=rAB49oPR,comment-id=00010003000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-05T20:40:28.348+0000) > > well, there's also kennen And Thresh. Hell, I'm surprised Hecarim hasn't gotten one yet. He'd be a perfect fit.
: Zyra error in her in-game bio/short bio from the client
It could be intentional, since Valoran people trade in Shurima, but then it should be mortals of the world in general.
: YOU DO NOT HAVE TO GET THEM
> [{quoted}](name=I NEED YOU,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=lOsgFUu7,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2018-12-06T05:45:25.427+0000) > > YOU DO NOT HAVE TO GET THEM No, we don't, but Riot could easily be putting their time and effort into making something more unique, interesting, or even plain cool. Now yes, I would like to see Ahri and Evelynn get Prestige K/DA editions just to complete the "{{champion:202}}FOUR!" and because the Kai'Sa and Akali skins were different enough to work. But Aatrox's one here...is just his base Blood Moon skin but gold. That's it.
: Yeah... but he isn't sparkly.
At least Dark Waters {{champion:8}} is shiny though. **Shiny!** Rito Arclight {{champion:8}} or Justicar {{champion:8}} when
FireToa (NA)
: Snowdown 2018 Login Theme ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
It'll probably come out after All Star's over and done with; this patch is going to last a while, so they have time.
: But... League needed a sparkly vampire type, didn't it?
> [{quoted}](name=KnightsKemplar,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ZlEGbUdQ,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-12-05T03:36:00.338+0000) > > But... > > League needed a sparkly vampire type, didn't it? Don't we already have {{champion:8}} for that? He's fabulous enough.
: Well, technically, there are multiple demons, not just a single one, Evelynn is one of the demons that's released on the Bloodmoon, and so is Kennen and Kalista., if I recall correctly.
> [{quoted}](name=Breezy Boyy,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=rAB49oPR,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-12-05T02:48:16.917+0000) > > Well, technically, there are multiple demons, not just a single one, Evelynn is one of the demons that's released on the Bloodmoon, and so is Kennen and Kalista., if I recall correctly. Kalista, Evelynn, Kennen, and Thresh are all Blood Moon demons. A few are bound with demons, specifically Elise and Yasuo. Talon was once a Blood Moon priest who did such a powerful sacrifice that he became a demon himself. People also suspect that Twisted Fate is becoming a demon too.
: *Cries in Targon* Seriously, everyone hates Targon for some reason. I don't get it.
> [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JEVBGBui,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-04T07:41:01.148+0000) > > *Cries in Targon* > > Seriously, everyone hates Targon for some reason. > > I don't get it. I think people hate Targon because of what happened to Pantheon's lore, making it less Greek and more about some random space gods. I think that loss of original identity can be fixed if the poor guy ever gets a mini-rework/visual update, because we all know he at least needs the latter. Also because now there is Zoe who is from Targon. And that is the only champion in the entire game where her kit, lore, and voicelines are all equally stupid and painfully annoying to deal with (Akali doesn't count because her lore makes her out to be less of a jerk than her voicelines).
FéliXXX (EUW)
: riot and the most of the player base hates zed i think thats why neither he gets buffs nor skins (im pretty sure of thats why he dont get buffed but i dont rly know about skins) but i rly want a new zed skin
> [{quoted}](name=FéliXXX,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=2rq0vxsU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-05T02:02:31.957+0000) > > riot and the most of the player base hates zed i think thats why neither he gets buffs nor skins (im pretty sure of thats why he dont get buffed but i dont rly know about skins) but i rly want a new zed skin Zed got a skin for Halloween last year. He just doesn't have the most sellable model I suppose, unless they choose to unmask him. But doing that halfway went over very well with Pulsefire Shen, so I hope Zed gets a good skin down the line that shows off what he really looks like.
: #A Corporate Matter **Episode: _Praetorian_** **_"Ring ring"_** {{champion:92}} "Hello?" {{champion:236}} "Riven, oh thank Rito you picked up. It's me, Corporate Lucian." {{champion:92}} _"Sigh."_ "You know, I divorced Lee Sin so I could be done with you people." {{champion:236}} "Yeah, I know. But I've been trying to reach you for hours. There is a big problem." {{champion:92}} "I'm sure you have big problems every day, but I can't help you. I have to go back out on stage, just as soon as I figure out where I put my bunny ears." {{champion:236}} "You're at work? But you need to listen, I'm not the one who is in trouble, you-" _"Gets hung up on."_ {{champion:92}} "I swear, those idiots running league probably couldn't even open a door without asking for help." _**Meanwhile:**_ {{champion:36}} "Little blonde servant, we have big problem. Someone lock us in office and plotting terrible things. Me know cause me keep pushing on door and it not open." {{champion:81}} "It's a pull door from this end, boss." {{champion:36}} _"Pulls door open."_ "Hmmm, danger is over." _**Back by Riven:**_ {{champion:92}} "Why can't I find my bunny ears." {{champion:104}} "Lookin' for these, sweetheart?" {{champion:92}} _"Puts on ears to complete the battle bunny look."_ "Thanks for- Wait, who are you?" {{champion:104}} "Your undertaker." _"Points gun at her."_ {{champion:236}} **"GET AWAY FROM HER!"** _"Blasts him through the wall."_ {{champion:92}} "Lucian? You got here fast." {{champion:236}} "Come with me if you want to live." {{champion:92}} "If that's my only choice. But, what was that thing? Was it about to-" {{champion:236}} "Yes. It's called a Praetorian. That one I modeled after Graves. We need to leave before it gets back up." {{champion:92}} "You made that thing? I am not a coward, I'm gonna make that thing wish it was never made." {{champion:236}} "You need to listen. It can't be reasoned with, it can't be bargained with. It doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear and it absolutely will not stop. Ever. Until you are dead." {{champion:92}} "Well, that's just great. Why did you make it?" {{champion:236}} "For a variety of reasons. Having a mass producible heavy shock troop like can be very lucrative." {{champion:92}} "Alright, one last question. Why is it so hellbent on killing me?" {{champion:236}} "I had to bring in Lee sin to help with balancing. We needed to do some test runs and he thought it would be funny if the target dummies looked like you. But when they escaped they, unfortunately, still had you programmed in as their target." {{champion:92}} "My mom always told me he would be the death of me." {{champion:236}} "We need to get you somewhere safe. My team is working on getting the shutdown codes to work again. So we'll hide you out until then." {{champion:9}} "Stop right there meatbags! Master, helping the target against us? Ohh master, I am so disappointed in you right now." {{champion:92}} "There's another one?" {{champion:236}} "Yeah, two escaped." {{champion:92}} "I hate you corporates." {{champion:9}} "Maybe you'll enjoy a buzzsaw to the face?" _"Throws one."_ {{champion:50}} "Riven, where are you? You were supposed to be out on sta-" _"Gets hit by the buzzsaw."_ {{champion:50}} **"MY LEG!"** {{champion:236}} "Come on, this way!" _**They run through a couple doors and end up in a dead end hallway.**_ {{champion:92}} "Why did I listen to you? I work here, I knew there was no way out this way." {{champion:9}} "Hahahahaha, got you." {{champion:104}} "I'm back." {{champion:236}} "Now I know why they call it a dead end. This is going to hurt, a lot." {{champion:104}} _"Raises gun."_ "Hasta la vista, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-" _"Stops."_ {{champion:92}} "Well, that didn't hurt very much. What happened?" {{champion:236}} "They've stopped. Maybe my team figured out why the shutdown code wasn't working. But that was way faster than it would normally have taken." {{champion:92}} _"Pushes Praetorian Fiddlesticks over."_ "It seems that's what happened." {{champion:236}} "Hey hey, careful. do you have any idea how much those things cost?" {{champion:92}} "You're lucky I don't cut them into pieces for what they tried to do to me. You better make sure your team stopped them." {{champion:236}} "Okay yep, I just got a "You alive." text. Seems they fixed the code. Someone accidentally commented out one of the most important lines. Figures, those idiots. But, at least we aren't dead." {{champion:92}} "Probably just fired, cause I think I left my boss bleeding out on the floor back there." {{champion:236}} "Alright, you go deal with him. I'll get someone to bring these two back to my secret facility. Overall, they function quite amazingly, just got a few bugs to work out." {{champion:92}} "Lucian, if I ever see one of those things near me again. You won't have to just worry about the PR disaster they can cause." {{champion:236}} "Alright, I promise you will never have to worry about Praetorians again." _(Woo, back where I belong. Thank you Riot for fixing the free rotation comments. For those of you that missed me, I posted the last two episodes in the sales posts, [here](https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/store/sales/champion-and-skin-sale-1120-1123-0) and [here](https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/store/sales/champion-and-skin-sale-1127-1130-0). Hopefully, something like this doesn't happen again, but if it does. I will post on the sales like again, and if that doesn't work I will post in the creations forum on the boards. Thank you for reading ♥.)_
So glad to see this back! I hope the next episode touches on the two Program skins, that would be great to see interact with the Corporates.
: What would you change if you could and why
A little late to the party here, but my biggest gripe with the current lore and the one thing that I truly think needs to be changed altogether is {{champion:102}}. She's supposed to be a half-dragon. Her epithet is "The Half-Dragon". Even most recently, Dragon Trainer Heimerdinger called her a half-dragon hybrid. But her lore apparently has her being a full dragon that can transform into a human because...a mage messed with the egg? Really? Literally, "A Wizard Did It"? Some of the later parts of her lore, like her relationship with {{champion:59}}, should stay, but she should be made into being an actual half-dragon again. Yes, that can give off some messy implications, but if Runeterra can have {{champion:28}} wandering around doing {{champion:28}} things, I don't think an actual half-dragon is much to worry about.
: Bring back Frozen Summoner's Rift to set up the mood for Christmas ! {{sticker:sg-janna}}
Frozen Summoner's Rift was seen in Neeko's trailer with her Winter Wonder skin; it'll certainly come back.
: Never understood why Lux and Ahri are problem children when MF has 12 skins an ultimate and a set chromas, and the longest she's ever gone between skins is under 11 months.
> [{quoted}](name=Sexy Jack Rabbit,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=IKlBytfE,comment-id=000d00010000,timestamp=2018-12-02T13:30:37.294+0000) > > Never understood why Lux and Ahri are problem children when MF has 12 skins an ultimate and a set chromas, and the longest she's ever gone between skins is under 11 months. Let us not count Pyjama Guardian as a skin and accept it for what it is: an overglorified chroma. Hopefully Riot learns from the backlash those skins got and never does something like that again (especially not in such an obvious cash-grab manner), unless it's a special case like the Blitzcrank or Leona skins. But yes, besides that, MF is tied with Annie and surprisingly, Alistar, for the most skins in the game. At least the latter two have the excuse of being release champions (and most of Alistar's early skins are chromas).
: It would be funny if they go with the "its an iconic thing about the character" for her dance.
> [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=bEnwXnIs,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-02T22:58:59.652+0000) > > It would be funny if they go with the "its an iconic thing about the character" for her dance. They should at least keep the dance for Sinful Succulence Morgana. That's where it's actually iconic. > [{quoted}](name=QMighty,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=bEnwXnIs,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-12-02T21:55:43.043+0000) > > I think it would be really cool if the reworks drew direct contrasts between some of their skins. Here's a few examples... > > Exiled Morgana / Unmasked Kayle > This is the one where I could see the biggest improvement. So Exiled Morg is supposed to be her right after her fall. But what if Unmasked Kayle is Kayle right after Morgana's fall? The splash art could like show her looking down on Exiled Morg and being like 'wtf dude' and maybe she's revealing her true self to Morg or something... unmasked doesn't have only one meaning, eh? Or maybe she's just in her pajamas or something, idk. > > Viridian Kayle / Blackthorn Morgana > So Viridian Kayle, I think, is gonna get the same treatment as Taric's green skin and get a nature-theme. I'd like it if it went up against Blackthorn Morgana, maybe by making it a Spring skin, while BT is Autumn-themed. > > Blade Mistress Morgana / ~~Battle Born~~ Iron Inquisitor Kayle > So BB Kayle is just Kayle with _more_ armour and a bigger sword, so it could get re-themed. Blade Morg is her but metal, so what if BB Kayle turned into the same kind of thing? They could both get moved over to the Omen of the Dark universe (makes sense, right? Blade Mistress and Blade Queen?) and Morg could become a follower of Lissandra, and Kayle is leading the fight against the Blade Queen. > Okay, I'm just now realizing that Iron Inquisitor Kayle is already part of the OotD universe, so this couldn't really work. So just move Blade Mistress over to that universe, I guess. > > Silver Kayle / Victorious Morgana > This one is a bit nebulous but it'd be kinda funny if Victorious Morg had a unique quote to Silver Kayle that went something like "What, couldn't get boosted to gold?" I dunno. > > Well, that's all the ideas I had. Y'all can use this as a jumping-off point for discussion. All of these ideas are really good, but wasn't it Judgement Kayle that was technically the first Victorious skin? Perhaps it should be renamed Victorious Kayle. The Viridian Kayle vs Blackthorn Morgana idea sounds amazing! Especially because I, along with a few others, have thought that Viridian Kayle should be placed in the Eclipse universe, likely as an angel of Taric's Emerald Chapel. What if Morgana was also an angel of the Emerald Chapel, but got corrupted and "fell", either becoming one of the twisted old gods or a Coven servant? That would fit perfectly! And yes, Blade Mistress Morgana could definitely work in Omen of the Dark, either working with Cursed Revenant Nocturne or corrupted by him like Blade Queen Lissandra.
Terozu (NA)
: Ryze is a toddler to Zoe, who is a toddler to the ascended, who are toddlers to ASol, who is a toddler to Bard.
> [{quoted}](name=Terozu,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=7rAKOk6y,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-12-02T22:43:07.308+0000) > > Ryze is a toddler to Zoe, who is a toddler to the ascended, who are toddlers to ASol, who is a toddler to Bard. Bard and Aurelion Sol should be about the same age, since Aurelion came to be at the very beginning of the universe. If Bard did too, that makes them equals.
Lewanor (NA)
: Eclipse Leona's Login Screen is not at LoL Display's still
Riot didn't post the Pool Party theme on their YouTube channel either, probably because they forgot to post it along with Aatrox's.
: I didn't plan on making skins as part of the argument but I was too lazy to try and figure out which one Mord was in the list so I added that. Mostly because skins are more "Casual" or theme'd and not lore based for them. But if we do include them, a decent list of choices opens up. For both genders. But for the most part, I wanted to list of base skins for champs that show some decent skin, and again, was too lazy to fix Morde because of the way you use those icons. You did list off the Iconic for Graves(imo), which maybe would be good to include for champs.
> [{quoted}](name=CaptainSeto,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=rLxavEXW,comment-id=001e000100000000,timestamp=2018-12-01T19:22:23.234+0000) > > I didn't plan on making skins as part of the argument but I was too lazy to try and figure out which one Mord was in the list so I added that. Mostly because skins are more "Casual" or theme'd and not lore based for them. But if we do include them, a decent list of choices opens up. For both genders. But for the most part, I wanted to list of base skins for champs that show some decent skin, and again, was too lazy to fix Morde because of the way you use those icons. > > You did list off the Iconic for Graves(imo), which maybe would be good to include for champs. Oh yeah I guess there are a lot more skins that would add champions, like Rogue Admiral {{champion:86}} and Pre-Void {{champion:38}}. Yeah. There's a lot of good-looking men in League.
: I feel I missed sarcasm, or at least I hope I did, but here's a list:{{champion:266}} {{champion:201}} {{champion:12}} {{champion:63}} {{champion:119}} {{champion:41}} {{champion:79}} {{champion:141}} {{champion:64}} {{champion:82}} {{champion:2}} {{champion:497}} {{champion:13}} {{champion:14}} {{champion:44}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:77}} {{champion:157}} (Mord is here for his Pentakill skin)
> [{quoted}](name=CaptainSeto,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=rLxavEXW,comment-id=001e0001,timestamp=2018-12-01T19:01:48.259+0000) > > I feel I missed sarcasm, or at least I hope I did, but here's a list:{{champion:266}} {{champion:201}} {{champion:12}} {{champion:63}} {{champion:119}} {{champion:41}} {{champion:79}} {{champion:141}} {{champion:64}} {{champion:82}} {{champion:2}} {{champion:497}} {{champion:13}} {{champion:14}} {{champion:44}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:77}} {{champion:157}} (Mord is here for his Pentakill skin) Add {{champion:104}} for his Pool Party skin. {{champion:81}} and {{champion:4}} also show some more in their soccer skins. {{champion:245}} isn't bad either.
d00mface (EUW)
: Parties Across Runeterra
I imagine Bilgewater and Zaun have a lot of seedy gambling and crime parties, and maybe even among the not-so-good of Piltover too.
: Next year, coven evelynn and coven morgana
> [{quoted}](name=Lord Apex,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Qwi1Zwkc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-29T04:31:30.002+0000) > > Next year, coven evelynn and coven morgana {{champion:28}} would be better as a Death Blossom skin, in the same vein as Elise. I think {{champion:134}} and {{champion:69}} are probably the most obvious candidates for Coven skins, especially since they have helmets in their main skin (and Syndra's is even animal-like). {{champion:25}} would definitely be another good candidate though, especially if Viridian {{champion:10}} ends up being connected to this skin line through the Emerald Chapel or something.
: Confirmed. Serpentine =/= Serpent Isles
> [{quoted}](name=Scathlocke,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=U85l9HPq,comment-id=0003000000010000,timestamp=2018-11-29T01:57:39.033+0000) > > Confirmed. Serpentine =/= Serpent Isles Thanks man. And this is why we all need a map.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: TF is originally from Serpent Isles too, who is definitely not black.
> [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=U85l9HPq,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-11-28T11:13:15.252+0000) > > TF is originally from Serpent Isles too, who is definitely not black. {{champion:4}} is from the Serpentine River, not the Serpent Isles, which is somewhat based on the Mississippi River (especially since the New Orleans-accented {{champion:223}} roams there too; {{champion:4}}'s and {{champion:104}}'s accents are only slightly more Western). However, the Serpent Isles themselves are supposed to be based on Polynesian peoples, it seems. {{champion:555}}'s design doesn't seem to reflect that so much?...but meh it's a fantasy world who cares lol
: Meh Ryze is more like Strange imo if we ignore the Time Stone
> [{quoted}](name=RyzeTheSmurfMage,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=VGFJrskV,comment-id=000500000000000000050000,timestamp=2018-11-28T09:08:04.641+0000) > > Meh Ryze is more like Strange imo if we ignore the Time Stone Somewhat closer in personality; I'm just putting out who might see the 14,000,605 possible timelines for the destruction of Runeterra. I don't think {{champion:245}} is quite that advanced.
: I think it's ambiguous, however most bilgewater/sea themed characters are dark skinned, if not black outright.
> [{quoted}](name=Azir Is Not Good,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=U85l9HPq,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-28T05:42:06.078+0000) > > I think it's ambiguous, however most bilgewater/sea themed characters are dark skinned, if not black outright. Only {{champion:420}} is besides him, at least in Bilgewater. Unless, of course, you count the dark green skin of our benched {{champion:223}}.
Neamean (NA)
: Champion who kit you like but their lore/characterization make you not play them
{{champion:28}}. I still play her, but I hate her actual character. I also have a strong aversion to how, in her most recent iteration as K/DA, the lore tries to make her likable while it's still implied that she does the same despicable things. No, I'm not going to like her personality just because she's in a hit pop star skin line now! Why was she even chosen for that skin line? At least she sticks to her theme in Blood Moon.
: Wait there is no Eclipse lore ¿
There's plenty of Eclipse lore. Right here. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Eclipse#General
: Oh, my sweet summer child...
> [{quoted}](name=Scathlocke,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=VGFJrskV,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-27T20:28:00.458+0000) > > Oh, my sweet summer child... Riot's really gonna do it on us, aren't they? I can just see it! {{champion:26}}: "This was the only way..."
: This is what a serious skin line should be like.
> [{quoted}](name=Naalith,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=mYRWFzlR,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-11-27T17:28:41.504+0000) > > I'm wondering which character, if any, they'll give the old good deer skull skin to. Hopefully not another Thresh skin, it would be cool if Ivern got it. > [{quoted}](name=GrReaper96,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=mYRWFzlR,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-11-27T23:37:20.894+0000) > > Covern Ivern. It was a nice ring to it tbh. Civern. You know, now that you mention it, Thresh might work with the wicked old deer god aesthetic, even if he isn't directly deer-themed. Although I'm personally more hopeful that it hints at a future champ, but if Riot doesn't want to wait for that, he'd probably be the most fitting. I don't think he'd get the skin so soon after his High Noon one though, so I don't think we'd have to worry about that. As for Ivern, he would fit better in the Elderwood subset, as repetitive as it may seem. But the concept could be made interesting if dealt with a creative hand, I think.
Zeanix (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=mrmeddyman,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=2tithjqg,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-11-27T09:34:23.186+0000) > > Does Diana have to get a skin just because Leona got one??? With this kind of skin, I really hope so. It’s such a perfect fit for both champions and I think she deserves it
> [{quoted}](name=Zeanix,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=2tithjqg,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-11-27T09:56:59.415+0000) > > With this kind of skin, I really hope so. It’s such a perfect fit for both champions and I think she deserves it The thing is, Diana and Leona are almost inevitably going to get a Versus event in the future, which means that both would get new legendary skins (since Leona's getting this legendary skin now, it would probably be in a few years). I doubt Riot would make Diana an ultimate skin if they would plan to give her *and* Leona legendary skins for another big event. And yes, since the Versus event this year gave Darius a second legendary skin, that means the same can easily happen with Leona too.
: If there is more than one eclipse knight, what happens if they want to use opposite types of eclipses at the same time?
> [{quoted}](name=painkills,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=7E73IeVK,comment-id=000300020000,timestamp=2018-11-27T12:52:29.006+0000) > > If there is more than one eclipse knight, what happens if they want to use opposite types of eclipses at the same time? I assume they make whichever eclipse is appropriate for the time of day, Solar or Lunar...there were definitely multiple Eclipse *Knights* when the Coven rose the first time. I'm guessing the sun and moon are more forces than actual objects in space in this universe?...and how does it work if one Eclipse Knight is on one side of the planet where it's day and the other is on the other side where it's night? Maybe we shouldn't bring astronomy into this...
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