: I understand why I was punished. I just assert that you're morally wrong and I don't really care what you have to say about it. If I'm being treated like shit and I say something mildly mean like "you're bad" and you punish me then you're just wrong. I'm not going to post logs. I'm not here for your judgment. I am here to tell you that I just disagree with you and Riot games and I do not accept or understand the terms given to me in the reform card.
Then this thread should just be locked or deleted. If you aren't here for discussion then then entire point of this thread is for you to tell people "go fuck yourself" if anyone disagrees
: I do not understand and I do not agree or accept the terms.
You already did agree when you agreed to the terms of service. Why are you so angry about something you agreed to?
: What is the lowest economy ADC
I would say {{champion:22}} as she still offers decent utility even when behind
: {{champion:81}} doesn't take much resources.
> [{quoted}](name=CoolKnightST,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8bGkFvtM,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-04-24T21:28:26.139+0000) > > {{champion:81}} doesn't take much resources. Ezreal is crazy item reliant and offers zero utility
: > [{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZK4ygAi6,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-04-24T10:39:28.199+0000) > > Post the real source so we can see that it's a ranked game and not a normal https://imgur.com/CRkMlq1 you CANNOT post other people username having poor performance on boards without getting your post deleted. There you go, nerd.
If you blur out everyone's names but your own it doesn't get removed. Then we're can just op.gg it.
CLG ear (NA)
: If you have to preface what you are saying with "I don't mean to offend you"
Because perhaps you are far to easily offended. I swear people think that being offended just means that they're right
Rioter Comments
Wuks (NA)
: Greetings! I just wanted to step in to mention a few things. 1. Riot weren't the ones who deleted the post, and they're certainly not trying to silence your voice. The Boards Moderation team, handled by community volunteers, removed your post for not adhering to the Gameplay guidelines against low-effort posts. While I might not agree with the removal, I don't believe the removal was completely uncalled for. 2. I've reached out to Mortdog about hopefully getting some more clarity into this discussion. Whether it's in this thread or another thread, keep an eye out for a response.
: > [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=6fVauHOJ,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-04-22T20:58:59.941+0000) > > I personally downvoted because this thread isn't constructive at all. As a matter of fact it's the opposite. It's only mocking people with a strong holier than thou air about it im not saying it is, but it's a thread that was up for 30 minutes and had over 20 downvotes with no comments
Well yeah the botting is real but I was just clarifying that it wasn't all a bot
: bots at it again
I personally downvoted because this thread isn't constructive at all. As a matter of fact it's the opposite. It's only mocking people with a strong holier than thou air about it
: That's why OP has said that sometimes it is the junglers fault when a lane is lost, key word is sometimes, he's not blaming all on the jng, he's saying that sometimes the blame rightfully is on the jungler which is truth.
They didn't say they say that at all > it is ***often*** their jungle's fault. > only one of them is 100% their fault
: You're probably much more knowledgeable about this than I am, and can only speak to the information I've read about the system. > Your midlaner says "wow you're so good. How are you still silver?". Now let give some different circumstances. You make the worst play of you life. You fuck up an easy play in spectacular fashion. Now they say the same exact thing, "wow you're so good. How are you still silver?" The system only reviews chat if there is a report made. So, if it's just a one off people are worried about it probably won't matter. Let's say you do get reported and the chat gets reviewed by the system. That statement could get flagged as potentially toxic, but the IFS looks at the entire chat. Were you toxic anywhere else in the chat? How often? How do you think a person would be able to review it any better barring them reviewing vods? If a person is just reading through chat logs and sees "wow you're so good. How are you still silver?" they would have no idea the intent behind it either.
> The system only reviews chat if there is a report made. So, if it's just a one off people are worried about it probably won't matter. Let's say you do get reported and the chat gets reviewed by the system. That statement could get flagged as potentially toxic, but the IFS looks at the entire chat. Were you toxic anywhere else in the chat? How often? This only works if no false reports are made. Once you factor in false reports, a system that assumes guilt would end up with a metric ton of false flags. Humans are actually very good at detecting when people are being disingenuous. Of course not perfectly, but we're pretty good at it. It's a bit harder to do with just words though because humans read body language and tone very well. If I used that statement and then ones like "You're the best player I've ever seen" and "how are you this good at league of legends?" you would be able to see straight through to whats was going on. Me and you reading this know something sounds a bit off and can practically taste the sarcasm. We can just kinda feel it. Sarcasm is a well known issue with AI right now. Some sarcasm is easier to detect to AI than others. A statement claiming to like a negative thing are easier to detect like "I really love when people treat me like shit". Other forms of sarcasm are far harder. Lets go back to one of our examples, "you're the best player I've ever seen". There is no direct comparison and no context. If the AI was capable of determining what you did was good or bad, it would be simple. However, the AI has no idea so it has nothing to compare to and no context.
rujitra (NA)
: And improper bans happened with Tribunal as well. Look, you have a piss poor understanding of how machine learning, artificial neural networks, and other similar recursive learning functions work. I can't take the hours, even days it would take to try and explain it to you, but I encourage you to look it up instead of blindly claiming you know how the software is flawed when you don't even have a basic grasp of the concepts behind it.
Uh no. I'm afraid its the other way around. The only way a recursive function picks up on even the absolute basic tree structures in language is through a fuck ton of identical repetition. All I have to do to beat the currently available ones is change it from the norm. I change "noob" into "ÑÖ0B". Now as long as not enough people use that exact same iteration, it will never get flagged on it's own. This is where a **_human_** comes in and tells is "ÑÖ0B" is not acceptable either. It also tells the computer that accented o's and zeros can be treated as regular o's. KK I'll change it to "NabcOdefOghiB". Ok I tell it to eliminate sequential letters? The next person uses "New buh". Eliminate syllables that sound like noob? Congrats! You are now handing out instant 14 day bans to anyone who uses the word new in front of a word that begins with B. The next uses "you are a new bicycle". What are you going to do? There is not a recursive function in the world currently that is going to pick up that I am trying to call someone a noob by saying "you are a new Bicycle". Sorry. The current recursive functions only work when analyzing_** natural language.**_ If someone is consciously aware of this, it becomes _**laughably easy to defeat.**_ As long as a metric fuck ton of people don't defeat the network in the same exact way, it won't catch on. The tiniest amount of creativity completely trumps them. Make one to specifically track a specific person? (Which is laughably impossible to do with millions of players) _**All I have to do is be inconsistent.**_ Thats literally it. The IFS catches these people who use normal insults. "You fucking suck" "This mid is trash" "worthless feeder" "Bronze garbage" etc are what gets caught. "You are an alloy of copper and tin"? Nope. How about some super common ones like "lol" or "why?" or just a simple "?". HELL NO. You cant do it with current technology. AI is not capable of doing it yet and thats a fact. Things that a human can identify at a quick glance will fly right over the AI's head Neural networks require a fuck ton of ***human intervention and correction*** for the countless times that they fuck up. You think they would pay huge teams of expensive specialists to keep working on them if they were already perfect? Seriously? So please don't tell me what I do or do not know. Especially when your response is more or less "I know how it works and you don't" with fuck all explanation
rujitra (NA)
: But we aren't talking about human speech as a whole. We are talking about identifying patterns of phrases indicative of behavior which would've been punished in Tribunal. That is a couple dozen distinct "rules" at most. And the more logs that the system was taught on the better it would've gotten at correctly identifying even things it had not seen before based on log context.
**_Its literally exactly what we're talking about_** The only hard rules the IFS has are zero tolerance phrases and even those can be abused. A little while ago, there was a guy going around on burner accounts demanding that people said "neck yourself" twice in chat or they would int. People did and ended up with 14 day bans from the IFS. It took an actual human rioter to go in and manually unban these people because they were being forced into saying zero tolerance phrases. Now why is that? Why did a human have to go in and manually correct the blatant mistakes of the IFS when the IFS is 'just as accurate as real humans'. The tribunal would have never ever banned that person. It's because the IFS is dumb in this regard and makes absolutely zero effort to infer meaning from context, which is an absolutely essential part of human communication. This is just a single example, but what happens the next time that someone decides to find a loophole? Let me give you a few off the top of my head. For the purposes of these examples, lets assume the word "noob" is a ZTP so I dont have to use real ones. Would ÑÖ0B be caught? Ok, assume we fixed that example. NUUB? NxxOxxOxxB? NabcOdefOghiB? Newb? N i O hate O you B? Not One One Barn? What are the chances that people use the exact iteration "NaaOeeOnnB" enough to get picked up? How about "replace the q's in nqqb with o's"? All of these are blatantly obvious at _**just a glance**_ to a human as to what they are. To the IFS, it has absolutely zero fucking clue. The statement that the IFS somehow understands and can accurately apply the data from the tribunal is absolutely ludicrous. You are attempting to assert that Riot's IFS is vastly superior than the most cutting edge of AI technology. You don't need to blindly defend the IFS just because you think it's good that it exist. The IFS has massive flaws and being critical of it is not the same as saying it needs to go.
rujitra (NA)
: They don’t have to “mimic human reasoning”. They just have to recognize the same **patterns** that humans base their reasoning on. Patterns are perfect for computers/machine learning. Given that computers can recognize patterns in chess and adapt to them, and chess has infinitely more patterns than does League chat (when taking into account the relatively small amount of phrases used in chat frequently), I don’t see how you can say that it’s “insane”.
> and chess has infinitely more patterns than does League chat uh ***HELL NO***. Not even remotely close. Not even relatively close to the same magnitude. Human speech and expression is several orders of magnitude greater than a simple chess game. Chess has a relatively few number of rules. White goes first. One move per turn. These pieces can move these directions. When the king is put into check and cannot escape or be protected, the match is over. Thats pretty much it with some minor exceptions like castling. The rules of chess are extremely black and white. There are relatively little of them and absolutely zero exceptions. There is a huge reason why we made a computer that can play chess in 1996 yet to this day we cannot make an AI capable of holding a real conversation. Human communication is on an entirely different scale of complexity. There are only vague outlines and huge exceptions to everything. The exact same statement can mean exact opposites. Let me give you an example. You are playing top and are getting ganked but manage to kill both of them 1v2. Your midlaner says "wow you're so good. How are you still silver?". Now let give some different circumstances. You make the worst play of you life. You fuck up an easy play in spectacular fashion. Now they say the same exact thing, "wow you're so good. How are you still silver?" Now me and you as humans know the difference because we can infer meaning from context, something that AI is not yet capable of doing. The first situation you were getting praised. The second example they were saying you should be bronze/iron because you suck. ***The IFS as it currently is would NEVER pick up the difference.*** The only thing the IFS is really good at is picking up the absolute most basic stuff. You call people bad, using a zero tolerance phrase, ask for reports, etc. What it's completely useless at is the gray area. It knows to ban someone for saying "kill yourself" but all I would have to do to get around this is reword it. "Hey garen, this world would be a better place if you were gone. Nobody would miss you". Both are telling you to kill yourself, only one will get picked up by the IFS. It can detect someone running it down mid, but is dogshit useless at catching people who blatantly are letting themselves get caught, refusing to help out of spite, trolling the jungler, etc. I don't understand your blind faith in the IFS. It obviously has massive faults and isn't anywhere close to as accurate as an actual human. Why do you think people submit things to be manually reviewed in the first place? I'm not even arguing against the IFS. It's absolutely necessary with so many players submitting so many reports. Everyone knows an actual human is FAAAAAAARRRRRR better than the IFS, it's just not practical at all to hire enough humans to handle that kind of work load.
rujitra (NA)
: If your goal is to replicate something, say, a soccer player trying to perfect a different kick, doesn’t it make sense to watch it a bunch of times until you have the idea of the motions down, then go practice it while comparing your video to the video you’re learning from? Eventually, there will be no difference. That’s how the system was trained. It’s literally **impossible** for the system to be less accurate than the Tribunal because that’s the data it operates off of.
Thats an absolutely insane statement to make. Computer learning programs are not nearly advanced enough to mimic human reasoning yet. Not even the most advanced AI are capable of accurately mimicking human interaction and I guarantee you Riot doesn't possess anything even close to what would be considered the most advanced AI. I really dont understand this blind defense of every part of the IFS. The IFS is necessary for the volume of work that needs to get done but that doesnt mean we should just make up excuses for it's blatant shortcomings. There are huge flaws with the IFS and its very easy to dodge around it and skate the edge. It's also completely worthless at detecting soft inting.
rujitra (NA)
: No. Nothing has changed in the system, in reality since it was built from Tribunal. And the new system is just as accurate as the Tribunal system was that used real humans.
: Can we end Twitch Jg already?
So you shouldn't have to play around the enemy team?
: See nothing. You dont get to come on here, accuse me of something that isnt true, and then use my reaction to your nonsense as evidence that your initial statement was true. The reality is, you are wrong, and you have nothing to say in the realm of logic or reason against my rebuttals. Nice try, go troll elsewhere
See? Still aren't getting it. What you meant is irrelevant if you wrote it in such a manner that everyone is going to interpret it as raging out. Which is exactly how it reads. Hence why you got downvoted into the dirt. If you understood human nature you would already know this.
: "Yes there is a need. Riot is made up of uber nerds who don't understand human nature or reality....or game theory, which is why their game is sucking more and more" That is what I said. Then YOU accused me of yelling and using curse works. Untrue. You deciding and wanting to believe the the post is angry and confrontational is not the same as yelling and using curse words, and nor is it true just because you want it to be. You basically extracted whatever you wanted from my comment to give you grounds to argue against me. I understand human nature quite well, and you have a compulsion that you need to argue everyone down and be right to the point your brain literally invents whatever it needs to give you grounds to do so. Seek help, you are mentally ill.
Eedat (NA)
: We're talking in circles. Trap is not an offensive term when used correctly. It is only offensive when maliciously misused, like most words Here is a video going into way more detail than I can https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG9EFWMi7NY
How many times do I have to say it's offensive to use to describe a trans person? Like 8? I don't really care. The lgbt+ people in my life are what formed my opinion. I really don't care that there are some on the internet that find it so. I'm sure you can find people that find the word "idiot" offensive because it marginalizes people who were born with below average intelligence or some crap. Oh well, don't care.
: I asked you specific questions. What a joke you are dude. You accuse me of something I didnt do and THEN you ignore it when I call you out on it.
I said you still don't understand because you're still doing it. You're original response was blatantly angry and confrontational. If it wasn't, then it's even more proof you don't understand human nature because you can't even comprehend how every other human interpreted your word choice.
BayoNX19 (NA)
: Riot matchmaking has a disgusting logic. The goal of riot will always be to force you to win and lose 50% of your games. MMR is their way of ensuring they can do this.
No it doesn't. You even out to 50% win rate as you approach your true MMR naturally.
: Just a reminder: Rengar is still broken
Just a reminder: just because you got rekt by a rengar last game doesnt mean he's OP
: Survey: How often do you get flamed?
Depends what role I'm playing. Almost all the time in jungle. Almost never in top
Warpes (NA)
: except for the part where 3 MR items = more than 50 mr, in fact, one MR item = more than 50 mr. and the part where this was the kind of shit she was doing _all game long_ to MR/HP stacked tanks, without the help of vlad, baron debuff, infernals, or anything else. and the most fucked up part about that.. she was BEHIND for the first 10 minutes, she had done NOTHING at ALL. And suddenly starts 2 shotting everyone
-50 MR from baron {{champion:102}} {{item:3165}} {{item:3020}} {{item:3135}} You had no MR
Warpes (NA)
: AP Shyvana is the most disgustingly broken thing I've ever seen in the history of this game.
Nah there is a whole lot wrong with this. First, you guys were not full build. The only person who was full build was Shyv because she had 20 kills lol. Second since you are completely unaware, Baron shreds your entire teams armor and magic resist up to 50 each so those MR items you had are gone. Your fault for starting trying the risky baron. Third, you guys also got hit with Vlad ult which was amping the damage even more. Fourth, Shyv had double infernals as well SO what we're looking at is a hyperfed Shyv in the most insanely great circumstances. You dont balance champions by these circumstances
: Whos screaming or cursing? Where did I do that? Actually, NOW I do feel like cursing and screaming at you.....you just got mad at me for cursing and screaming...I did no such thing. I gave my opinion of why the make up of Riot employees don't amount to them understanding where toxic game play and behavior come from. NOR was I trying to get anyone to agree with me, I was stating what I truly believe. End of story.
See? You still don't understand human nature.
: > [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pOa2IJmr,comment-id=00030000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-17T03:55:54.656+0000) > > ***I already told you that griefing comes up as an intentional feeder ban*** > > There isn't a separate category for it. It is filed under that category because you are intentionally aiding the enemy which has the same intent and net effect I provided you with proof that my ticket yielded different results. We will see how this unravels, but that makes no sense. Why would they tell me im in trouble for inentionally feeding when in fact they are trying to punish me for the opposite.
***I just told you. *** > I already told you that griefing comes up as an intentional feeder ban > There isn't a separate category for it. It is filed under that category because you are intentionally aiding the enemy which has the same intent and net effect The response you got was from a ***bot *** that is giving you a generic response for the category of your ban. That's not a real person. It sees your category and repeats a prewritten response
: Yes there is a need. Riot is made up of uber nerds who don't understand human nature or reality....or game theory, which is why their game is sucking more and more
I think it's you who doesn't understand human nature. You can have the best idea in the world and fuck all will listen if you scream and curse it them. That's not how humans work. It is the absolute worst way to get people to agree with you
: > [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pOa2IJmr,comment-id=000300000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-17T03:47:15.452+0000) > > I'm done. CS numbers mean fuck all. Yasuo CSing poorly is not punishable. You giving up and intentionally griefing is punishable with a 14 day ban. You sitting in base and moving around to avoid leaver buster does not mean you weren't griefing. You intentionally stopped farming, stayed far enough away from everything to avoid EXP, stopped participating in fights, were not defending anything, and intentionally tried to dodge the leaver buster system. > > You were griefing and got caught. That's all there is to it. > > > And most of all, ***repeating a lie over and over and over does not get people to believe you. *** You can keep lying until you're blue in the face and I'll still know it's just that. A lie. > > Like wtf was the point of making this thread if all you were going to do was tell bold faced lies right to our faces? You realize nobody here can overturn your ban and any actual Rioter that could has access to the chat logs and the replay? because, again that is not what the punishment is for. I am not being punished for afking I am being punished for inentionally feeding. That is what my report log says, that is what blitzcrank bot says, and I did not receive any sort of leaver buster notification. I am saying that I did not intentionally feed, which is true, and which is what they penalized me for. It is false.
***I already told you that griefing comes up as an intentional feeder ban*** There isn't a separate category for it. It is filed under that category because you are intentionally aiding the enemy which has the same intent and net effect
: > [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pOa2IJmr,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-17T03:24:56.927+0000) > > You absolutely did not. You had a gold advantage on them that rapidly decreased toward the end of the game. You specifically picked Support and Jungle ecause you know damn well they get far less gold than solo laners. When you compare to the other carries its looks like this > > https://i.imgur.com/SCdZsdZ.png[/img] > > You had huge gold advantages on both of them that you lost due to afking > > When you compare EXP to the jungler and support it looks like this > > https://i.imgur.com/012IHmz.png[/img] > > Neither of them have 5 minute flatlines despite having just as many or more deaths than you > > You obviously afked and were just getting passive gold. I have no idea why you're trying to argue you didnt when its 100% blatantly obvious you did. > > Think about what you're trying to tell us is true. A long range artillery mage solo laner did not get any farm, any EXP, did not participate in any kills or assists, and didnt die for practically 8-9 minutes straight? > > Come on dude. We're not idiots. _**You 100% afked.**_ I did not afk in that game, Yasuo and I had nearly identical CS, my gold increase is nearly the same as the support and jungle in that game, I did not leave my base, but I did not afk. Apart from that, that's not what I am on trial for. I have been explicitly told that I am being banned for intentionally feeding for that game, which I did not do. I didn't afk. I didn't leave base. I didn't feed. That's what happens when your teams chat divulges into everyone blaming each other for the loss.
I'm done. CS numbers mean fuck all. Yasuo CSing poorly is not punishable. You giving up and intentionally griefing is punishable with a 14 day ban. You sitting in base and moving around to avoid leaver buster does not mean you weren't griefing. You intentionally stopped farming, stayed far enough away from everything to avoid EXP, stopped participating in fights, were not defending anything, and intentionally tried to dodge the leaver buster system. You were griefing and got caught. That's all there is to it. And most of all, ***repeating a lie over and over and over does not get people to believe you. *** You can keep lying until you're blue in the face and I'll still know it's just that. A lie. Like wtf was the point of making this thread if all you were going to do was tell bold faced lies right to our faces? You realize nobody here can overturn your ban and any actual Rioter that could has access to the chat logs and the replay?
: > [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pOa2IJmr,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-17T03:01:46.942+0000) > > Its pretty much proof that you afked. Also, I just checked at you did not die at 16-17 minutes. The last time you died was right at 15 minutes. Right when you went afk. > > Sitting in base buying items with passive gold to attempt to avoid the leaver buster system does not mean you didn't afk. > > Unfortunately for you, there is enough information to give a timeline. > > At 15 minutes you died for the last time. At that exact time, your cs and gold flatlined > > https://i.imgur.com/KFuJxkY.png[/img] > > https://i.imgur.com/gzPfJvV.png[/img] > > Somewhere around minute 18, you wandered out, got 7 more CS, then went back to afking. > > What you did was attempt to dodge the system but you failed https://imgur.com/a/QG7Nlxi I had nearly exactly the same gold increase as my jungle and support, we just got shut out that's all.
You absolutely did not. You had a gold advantage on them that rapidly decreased toward the end of the game. You specifically picked Support and Jungle ecause you know damn well they get far less gold than solo laners. When you compare to the other carries its looks like this https://i.imgur.com/SCdZsdZ.png[/img] You had huge gold advantages on both of them that you lost due to afking When you compare EXP to the jungler and support it looks like this https://i.imgur.com/012IHmz.png[/img] Neither of them have 5 minute flatlines despite having just as many or more deaths than you You obviously afked and were just getting passive gold. I have no idea why you're trying to argue you didnt when its 100% blatantly obvious you did. Think about what you're trying to tell us is true. A long range artillery mage solo laner did not get any farm, any EXP, did not participate in any kills or assists, and didnt die for practically 8-9 minutes straight? Come on dude. We're not idiots. _**You 100% afked.**_
: > [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pOa2IJmr,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-04-17T02:43:45.850+0000) > > You can say that all you want but you did afk and I can prove it > > https://i.imgur.com/LsT3qvg.jpg[/img] > > Afked at 15 for a few minutes. Looks like you left base, died, and went back to afking until the match ended. that's not evidence of afking. https://imgur.com/a/xLDixLr
Its pretty much proof that you afked. Also, I just checked at you did not die at 16-17 minutes. The last time you died was right at 15 minutes. Right when you went afk. Sitting in base buying items with passive gold to attempt to avoid the leaver buster system does not mean you didn't afk. Unfortunately for you, there is enough information to give a timeline. At 15 minutes you died for the last time. At that exact time, your cs and gold flatlined https://i.imgur.com/KFuJxkY.png[/img] https://i.imgur.com/gzPfJvV.png[/img] Somewhere around minute 18, you wandered out, got 7 more CS, then went back to afking. You ended the game 2 levels under your support as a solo laner with equal deaths. What you did was attempt to dodge the system but you failed
: > [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pOa2IJmr,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-04-17T02:34:24.826+0000) > > Griefing is lumped under the intentional feeding category for bans. A quick look at your op.gg reveals you afked right at the 15 minute mark so if I had to guess you got mad that the /ff at 15 didn't go through and afked. > > It's kind of obvious when you're 2 levels under your support as a solo laner that you afked That's not true, I kept up in gold with my jungle, and I even died at the 16-17 minute mark. I didn't afk in that game. Edit: Admittedly I didn't leave base, but if you look at building destruction, I didn't really have much of an opportunity too.
You can say that all you want but you did afk and I can prove it https://i.imgur.com/LsT3qvg.jpg[/img] Afked at 15 for a few minutes. Looks like you left base, died, and went back to afking until the match ended.
: Is this ticketable? Or will I actually have to wait it out.
Griefing is lumped under the intentional feeding category for bans. A quick look at your op.gg reveals you afked right at the 15 minute mark so if I had to guess you got mad that the /ff at 15 didn't go through and afked. It's kind of obvious when you're 2 levels under your support as a solo laner that you afked. EXP graph on op.gg confirms. Griefing or inting is a 14 day ban on the first offense
: Is this a serious response? No its not the role of a game to change behavior. What world did you grow up in? Peoples behavoir is rooted in their experiences in life---their taumas, their upbringing, who they happened to run into in life and became friends with...and other random things. Fucking preposterous to even suggest that a game could change a persons behavoir. How about this, make the game suck less ass and people wont be as toxic. The game is completely out of control right now. Damage is way to high. I see zed every match among others. Everyone explodes everyone instantly, there is not counterplay You guys will go out of business in about 5 years. Fading into obscurity as better games are made by better companies that don't pander to LCS and the new ADHD generation
Yes, it's a serious response. No need to full blown rage out
: Real reason riot did the Rank shift (adding Iron and Grand Master)
https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/rankings/rank-distribution Nope.
: > [{quoted}](name=A Real Troll,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xpnN5vTK,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-04-15T20:15:43.125+0000) > > #manbabies put an antislash before # to avoid formatting >\\#manbabies gives \#manbabies
Never heard the term antislash before. Thought it was forward slash / and backslash \
: Quitting by 9.9 if artificial promos arent removed from game
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: champions to solo win in silver?
: Can I get an outsider's opinion?
_If what you said is true_, you may want to send a ticket to support. You went straight to 14 day ban because you repeated "kys" in chat. Just know that they may not show leniency since you'e had a relatively recent punishment and were otherwise extremely toxic in these logs. I wouldn't get your hopes up. In the future, do not ever repeat things you know are going to get someone banned in chat. It's common sense really. Threats, slurs, and telling people to kill themselves are straight to 14 day ban. Just know that if your punishment doesnt get reduced, your account is on extremely thin ice for a perma ban. They'll be looking at you under a microscope. You really can't be toxic at all
: Vi, a champ that is very difficult to play
Not sure if satire or actually complaining about Vi
hiyares (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Laufplanke,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ZyoHaJwd,comment-id=00000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-13T19:42:01.624+0000) > > lol. > > Feel free to leave, my dude. Riot does not have to give you a place to be toxic or insulting to other players, there are plenty of other games that can provide you with what you want, I am pretty sure about it. you ever been to the us? you should hang out in the low income areas and see how we tend to speak to each other on a daily basis. context is important it changes the meaning of what a certain phrase means the problem is when your talking about online interactions the whole hidden context of facial features hand gestures tone of voice are not there. so everyone just gets butt hurt from everything and its so stupid cant say anything to anyone i cant even call my friend his fucking nickname in game. im hispanic i live by the border of mexico we all speak spanish right so his name is enrique nicknamke is %%%% its gonna be bluured out because in english its offensive to a single religious belief keeke. In all honesty i just dont think that all this cultural bs should be shoved into a game setting it has no place for it and it makes no sense to me why a game which has various cultures in it would try to. and also if anyone even just says they are trying or its just a bad game they are free from any inting of feeding reports pretty much but you tell them 1 thing and you get banned or chat restricted for like 3 days lol
......what? You dont run around anywhere telling complete strangers "fuck you bitch". Thats fucking insane and you're begging for a fight. If you want to joke around with friends, thats one thing, but to try to say telling random people "fuck you bitch" in "low income areas" is going to go over very well you're crazy. You're gonna get beat the fuck up
Mr Elessar (EUNE)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Mr Elessar,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=c1LXgw1y,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-13T19:26:16.654+0000) > > Free Market. We don't have a free market. Like not even remotely close. Also not a free market when you agreed to a contract that says you wont do it.
: I'm with you. Upvoted and uninstalled, I just had the most ridiculous 24-2 loss because snowballing is _that_ powerful now.
Snowballing is relatively weak now. The new bounty system punishes you for everything
Rylalei (EUNE)
: I find it hard to believe because I never got autifilled in promos, heck, I don't even get my secondary role either. Climbed to S3 from B4 this season, doing my B to S promos twice and S4 to S3 3 times and only got my secondary twice in promos. Then again, you guys are in NA, so maybe some zombie code from positional ranked is bugging your promos.
Autofill protection in promos hasn't worked on NA since they undid role ranks
Cloud273 (NA)
: You can get like 5 new games on Steam for the price of a prestige skin...
I mean if you don't want to spend money on a blatant cash grab, don't spend money on a blatant cash grab.
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