: 12/0/3 Soraka's with 90 cs have a pretty nice gold gain
because of the 12 kills xD. apparently assists dont matter
: Meh, im gold, people play bruisers but they have enough tankiness to work around, unless i have a decent team it doesn't matter how much i do on ~enchanters~. Last game i actually played lulu really well, i hit everything perfectly and we won but they were down an ally, and i still get rekt by a basic auto My point was that healing and shielding is useless because of the burst the game has, its just better to play people who do damage over people who can sustain or have tankiness, I main zyra and she shreds tanks. That wasn't the point tho
The point was gold income for supports being too low, like why can't people who have a heal just naturally get more gold gain per second?
: There are tanks in league? I havent seen any since season 6
Meh, im gold, people play bruisers but they have enough tankiness to work around, unless i have a decent team it doesn't matter how much i do on ~enchanters~. Last game i actually played lulu really well, i hit everything perfectly and we won but they were down an ally, and i still get rekt by a basic auto My point was that healing and shielding is useless because of the burst the game has, its just better to play people who do damage over people who can sustain or have tankiness, I main zyra and she shreds tanks. That wasn't the point tho
: I must introduce you to my burst Janna build
Does it work against 4 tanks?
: How I know riot they would just nerf spellthief´s to hit champs who can still poke after the laning phase forcing everyone to take coin again, so that everyone has equally shitty income. But that´s it. They don´t want support items to be good in fear that other roles will abuse the heck out of them and they are committed to paying as little attention as possible to the support role, so you won´t see any MAJOR changes required to really fix the underlying issues. So the only option left are nerfs.
Very true, thats why its so frustrating, supports get the shit end of the stick because mages can utilize it.
: Just take ADC's kills. That's what I do.
Easily done with Zyra/Brand/Lux Nobody wants to see a janna take kills from their adc
: 1) No they don't. 2) Just call them "enchanters".
> [{quoted}](name=chipndip1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5EiNgzP,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-01-11T17:33:07.638+0000) > > 1) No they don't. > > 2) Just call them "enchanters". Useful advice only please
: Healer supports need more income
Why not make coin give higher income but only if you've been out of combat for 10 seconds? Coins drop regularly but give more if you werent in combat WHEN they dropped. So stalling to for the coin proc won't be possible if you plan to keep up poking
Rioter Comments
: No Janna is the l, "Melee champions can't touch my entire team" champion. And she does that still.
Yeah late game, she and her adc suffer early against any ADC/Supp combo unless they don't do damage early like ezreal raka. I can shield perfectly but nami W still does more than my shield and she gets a heal bounce. Soraka constantly Qs which is easy to dodge but it does enough to pop shield. and that's the minimal damage champions
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: Support / Vision
The point of support is CC, healing, and mititgation. Its not about wards, what is this season 3 where supports were ward monkeys? I would agree a few supports need buffs. but warding is fine. It shouldn't be on one person to ward especially when your duty as support is to prevent the enemy from getting kills and helping your team get kills. Vision is necessary for everyone, you want a support to ward top early? or the mid jungle? Supports gotta stay with their adc until laning phase is over, and even after that a single person cannot ward the entire map. It's better that its spread amongst the team. because it gives more opportunity to get good wards out at the right times rather than "o why didn't the sup ward baron" when theyre on the other side of the map dealing with turrets or whatever. Five people, 15 wards, 20 including pinks. I think that's fair. It's on everyone as the game should be, its a team game, not a blame and flame game
: Just to be different than yours Balanced: {{champion:61}} rarely buffed or nerfed but can usually survive most metas. Forgotten: {{champion:43}} she used to be the most forgotten until her rework and then she was super popular for a bit and now she is forgotten again. Worst of all she is supposed to get some minor work done but she most likely wont be getting her fans back with it. She also got gutted by the shield nerfs to all champions and was just left to rot when she was already doing awful.
Her bigger hit box for q actually hurts as support since you can prevent your adc from last hitting properly, nobody stands away from minions to avoid karma Q
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: Satisfy your sweet tooth with Sugar Rush!
You guys should put Traditional Karma in there~

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