: There are plenty of champions who scale with health though. {{champion:201}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:31}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:36}} {{champion:3}} {{champion:41}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:79}} {{champion:150}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:59}} {{champion:43}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:54}} {{champion:57}} {{champion:82}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:20}} {{champion:78}} {{champion:113}} {{champion:98}} {{champion:14}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:72}} {{champion:223}} {{champion:44}} {{champion:77}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:254}} {{champion:106}} {{champion:154}}
> [{quoted}](name=DerMangoJoghurt,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iZn9Xq9e,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-09-09T10:43:47.439+0000) > > There are plenty of champions who scale with health though. > {{champion:201}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:36}} {{champion:3}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:79}} {{champion:150}} {{champion:59}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:54}} {{champion:57}} {{champion:82}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:20}} {{champion:78}} {{champion:113}} {{champion:98}} {{champion:14}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:72}} {{champion:223}} {{champion:44}} {{champion:77}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:254}} {{champion:106}} {{champion:154}} Are most of them unplayable? Yes hahaha Did a lot of them get dmg bufss to be somewhat relevant? Yesssss
Xphineas (NA)
: No, for one main reason 1) Riot wouldnt be able to RELIABLY detect multiple accounts. Lets say someone has a sister and they both play the champions at about a similar skill level on the same wifi/same computer. If riot removed ones ability to play ranked, that simply isnt fair.
> [{quoted}](name=Xphineas,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=YEBokcv1,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-02T02:24:43.638+0000) > > No, for one main reason > 1) Riot wouldnt be able to RELIABLY detect multiple accounts. > Lets say someone has a sister and they both play the champions at about a similar skill level on the same wifi/same computer. If riot removed ones ability to play ranked, that simply isnt fair. This whole post is if they should should they do it.
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Teh Song (NA)
: Teleport is good on everyone. The only time it's really reasonable to say someone shouldn't take tp is on a champ who gets around easy with something in their kit, like Shen.
> [{quoted}](name=Teh Song,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sEPrOEGA,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-09-01T15:17:11.192+0000) > > Teleport is good on everyone. > The only time it's really reasonable to say someone shouldn't take tp is on a champ who gets around easy with something in their kit, like Shen. Heal is still better
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JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: It's been 2 years, maybe more, since lux, brand ,zyra and some other mages started being played on bot lane. ADJUST TO THE META ALREADY. No counterplay? Learn to side step. Champions that 100% of their damage can be denied by the move command need to hurt when they hit you. Seriously. Mages have so many counters in this meta it's ridiculous.
> [{quoted}](name=JuiceBoxP,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RjBXAE9x,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-23T19:10:29.215+0000) > > It's been 2 years, maybe more, since lux, brand ,zyra and some other mages started being played on bot lane. > > ADJUST TO THE META ALREADY. > > No counterplay? > Learn to side step. > > Champions that 100% of their damage can be denied by the move command need to hurt when they hit you. > > Seriously. Mages have so many counters in this meta it's ridiculous. Thats a stupid lie. Brand has two point and clicks and one being his ult. Zyra has basically caityln range but deals ap autos. Lux can run aftershock and just use W on adc to escape almost all ganks. We can tell you are b4 and cant use your brain to understand kits. Spell theifs is the most abusable way of generating gold and dealing pointless poke fro its passive. Its broken along with mages items being cheap as fuck.
Pyrosan (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=EnigmaticMachine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=n1tdtsUT,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-08-25T21:56:00.770+0000) > > I was showing abuse of the hyper ganking meta with a weak early game champ. In a normal game. No one cares about normals dude I literally play Sejuani mid with an 80% w/r in normals lol
> [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=n1tdtsUT,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-25T21:56:42.302+0000) > > In a normal game. > No one cares about normals dude I literally play Sejuani mid with an 80% w/r in normals lol The fact is you are playing an in meta jungler. Im playing shen and abused the camps xp bonuses and early game with a shen. a shen.
Pyrosan (NA)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=n1tdtsUT,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-25T21:54:40.029+0000) > > Shen > Summoner's Rift > Normal (Draft Mode) > > Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode)Normal (Draft Mode) > > RIOT PLZ CHANGE THE JUNGLE META I WENT 4/3 ON SHEN JUNGLE UJQWHNJROPFOPASDGUSDRJIFSP-AF OMG I was showing abuse of the hyper ganking meta with a weak early game champ.
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: >Akali and rumble have taken over top along with kennen. This is something that never happened. What are you talking about?
> [{quoted}](name=BlackKnightJack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wgnA9auH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-25T00:18:19.274+0000) > > This is something that never happened. What are you talking about? You are obviously low elo.
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Jbels (NA)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Jbels,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tnUJTdEq,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-23T20:03:48.872+0000) > > Oh yeah, my bad. I just thought I would counter your shit argument with another shit argument. This is why you are still silver trash.
Jbels (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=EnigmaticMachine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tnUJTdEq,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-08-22T11:11:09.190+0000) > > You are a feeder I can tell. Dude your match history shows you going negative or extremely close to negative in a ton of your games, get out of here with that shit.
> [{quoted}](name=Jbels,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tnUJTdEq,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-08-22T12:15:14.624+0000) > > Dude your match history shows you going negative or extremely close to negative in a ton of your games, get out of here with that shit. Then explain why my shen support sits at a KDA of 3.5. Thats no where close to negative playing as 1 a support and 2 a tank.
SSmotzer (NA)
: Okay, you know those things that are moving down every lane? Well keep one of those between you and Pyke, and if you see sharks, just walk away. If you know he is going to dash out of his invisibility, stay out of dash range. Plus, true damage will just obliterate him. he literally can't get more health, so anything that can just ignore his armor just melts him. So just kill the bastard.
> [{quoted}](name=SSmotzer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=lpLRXgeg,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-08-23T08:45:53.419+0000) > > Okay, you know those things that are moving down every lane? > > Well keep one of those between you and Pyke, and if you see sharks, just walk away. If you know he is going to dash out of his invisibility, stay out of dash range. > > Plus, true damage will just obliterate him. he literally can't get more health, so anything that can just ignore his armor just melts him. So just kill the bastard. How are you suppose to farm buddy?
xelaker (NA)
: the people that say things like this are the ones that go 3/9 and blame the jung
> [{quoted}](name=xelaker,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tnUJTdEq,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-08-22T00:57:40.956+0000) > > the people that say things like this are the ones that go 3/9 and blame the jung Why do people like you not even read the full post? You are making a fool of yourself kid.
Jbels (NA)
: No, you don't need to win lane to win game. You do, however, need to not lose lane to win game.
> [{quoted}](name=Jbels,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tnUJTdEq,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-08-21T21:12:41.345+0000) > > No, you don't need to win lane to win game. You do, however, need to not lose lane to win game. You are a feeder I can tell.
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: your response to people just build damage is to nerf health? wtf are smoking? this is ass backwards!
> [{quoted}](name=SquishySquish,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wWF9nGgp,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-20T04:56:41.660+0000) > > your response to people just build damage is to nerf health? wtf are smoking? this is ass backwards! To nerf everything across the board. Do you even read man?
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: the issue then is that you just make it harder for people to catch up item wise to others who got ahead thus making the desire to ff at 15 more prevalent
> [{quoted}](name=MordridtheBlack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XkLdYKnz,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-12T14:35:57.446+0000) > > the issue then is that you just make it harder for people to catch up item wise to others who got ahead > > thus making the desire to ff at 15 more prevalent Oh maybe because the game sucks.
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: Skill expression for Yuumi is actually hopping off and doing more than picking a ride..... It's knowing when to heal and when to not. Yuumi has significant skill expression.
> [{quoted}](name=Illabethe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AFXv5Ajy,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-08T18:24:10.854+0000) > > Skill expression for Yuumi is actually hopping off and doing more than picking a ride..... It's knowing when to heal and when to not. > > Yuumi has significant skill expression. You are a joke right
: This is just a nitpick but shouldn't {{item:3022}} be listed for tanks aswell, I know it gives ad but {{item:3001}} gives a % magic damage increase aura and {{item:3748}} gives ad too. (you listed both for tanks aswell) Speaking of items that are good for tanks but give damage, {{item:3053}} is such a broken bruiser item, I tend to buy it on tanks rather than {{item:3193}} when I need anti burst. {{item:3193}} wont protect you from % max health damage, {{item:3053}} will, and it doesn't waste gold on crappy flat mr / armor that will get penetrated by {{item:3071}} , not to mention {{item:3053}} works even when there isn't 3 enemy champions nearby.
> [{quoted}](name=Tahminatrix ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iV7sudiY,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-08T03:09:56.139+0000) > > This is just a nitpick but shouldn't {{item:3022}} be listed for tanks aswell, I know it gives ad but {{item:3001}} gives a % magic damage increase aura and {{item:3748}} gives ad too. (you listed both for tanks aswell) > > Speaking of items that are good for tanks but give damage, {{item:3053}} is such a broken bruiser item, I tend to buy it on tanks rather than {{item:3193}} when I need anti burst. > > {{item:3193}} wont protect you from % max health damage, {{item:3053}} will, and it doesn't waste gold on crappy flat mr / armor that will get penetrated by {{item:3071}} , not to mention {{item:3053}} works even when there isn't 3 enemy champions nearby. Titanic is the only decent Item that helps with what tanks do. HP scale. Titanic is good for hp scaling dmg.
: the amount of invalid points is so cringe im not going to even attempt to prove you wrong holy fuck
> [{quoted}](name=GodlyBane,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iV7sudiY,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-08-08T17:22:32.707+0000) > > the amount of invalid points is so cringe im not going to even attempt to prove you wrong holy fuck YOu cant prove me wrong that the point.
Antenora (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=EnigmaticMachine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iV7sudiY,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-08-08T02:48:09.183+0000) > > Bruisers do not need a key stone when almost half of the items in the game synergize with their kits perfectly. Items like {{item:3078}} {{item:3143}} {{item:3748}} {{item:3512}} {{item:3071}} {{item:3065}} {{item:3813}} {{item:3110}} {{item:3022}} {{item:3742}} {{item:3147}} {{item:3026}} {{item:3080}} {{item:3025}} {{item:1401}} {{item:1413}} {{item:3047}} {{item:3033}} {{item:3036}} {{item:3153}} {{item:2033}} {{item:3053}}{{item:1412}} {{item:1400}}{{item:3508}}{{item:3161}}{{item:1416}} {{item:1419}} . I think you've just gone and linked random items to make your post look more credible Duskblade is an Assassin item. Guardian Angel is fine, it's inferior to Zhonya's in every way possible. Bloodthirster is an ADC item. Mortal Reminder is more of an ADC/Assassin item. Lord Dominik's is more of an ADC/Assassin item. Blade of the Ruined King is more of an ADC item. Essence Reaver is an ADC Item. Bloodrazor isn't used by Bruisers. Bruisers or "Fighters" use Warrior primarily.
> [{quoted}](name=Antenora,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iV7sudiY,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-08-08T12:07:09.062+0000) > > I think you've just gone and linked random items to make your post look more credible > > Duskblade is an Assassin item. > Guardian Angel is fine, it's inferior to Zhonya's in every way possible. > Bloodthirster is an ADC item. > Mortal Reminder is more of an ADC/Assassin item. > Lord Dominik's is more of an ADC/Assassin item. > Blade of the Ruined King is more of an ADC item. > Essence Reaver is an ADC Item. > Bloodrazor isn't used by Bruisers. Bruisers or "Fighters" use Warrior primarily. I can tell you dont fucking read.
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xAcidik (NA)
: Balancing Around Pro Play Sucks For Us
> [{quoted}](name=xAcidik,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=T0EFkMPR,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-02-07T13:58:01.670+0000) > > It does. Balancing EXCLUSIVELY around pro play is a horrible design. I understand that certain champions are just too strong in pro play, but how does that justify making the champion unplayable in solo queue? WE are the consumers, WE keep this game running. If WE weren't interested in this game, fucking pro play wouldn't save it. Balancing for pro play is important, but not EXCLUSIVELY, which is Riot's habit. > > Akali, Azir, Ryze, Shen. These are all rather popular champions that can no longer feasibly exist in solo queue. Meanwhile, in solo queue, since it isn't a problem in pro play, we have Spear of Shojin Jax and Fiora, completely outdated champions like Pantheon and Shaco... I mean cmon. I agree that you shouldn't balance for low ELO, but at least balance for solo queue. > > Find a different solution for pro play. I don't care what it is. Straight out ban champions in pro play, for all I care. It DOESN'T EVEN BEGIN TO IMPACT THE BAST MAJORITY OF PLAYERS. I have to play shen support because of all the opressive nerfs to his kit along with all the stupid changes made to his counters. Shen cant even win against the people he counters anymore. Riot hates shen and we all love him. It makes no sense.
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Yääto (NA)
: People are brain damaged is why. Jax can literally just outscale. Fiora can outskill. Pantheon, unfortunately, is turned into a farm lane where no one actually gets a lead. Olaf can be outscaled by playing it like that pantheon matchup. There's a lot of Riven counters where she actually can't play the lane and simply pressures the game in other ways. Riven isn't OP because of her "overtuned" numbers or "low cooldown" skills. She's just super versatile that can fit into any team comp and accomplish the job of just about any class. Good initiation with flash up, backline disrupter, great peeler. Riven has a lot of ways in which she can influence the game that other champs don't have. People are just small brained and thinks it's her numbers/lack of counters that make her broken. It's her versatility that really makes her strong.
> [{quoted}](name=Yääto,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4q7AmjW9,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-08-04T09:57:53.317+0000) > > People are brain damaged is why. Jax can literally just outscale. Fiora can outskill. Pantheon, unfortunately, is turned into a farm lane where no one actually gets a lead. Olaf can be outscaled by playing it like that pantheon matchup. There's a lot of Riven counters where she actually can't play the lane and simply pressures the game in other ways. Riven isn't OP because of her "overtuned" numbers or "low cooldown" skills. She's just super versatile that can fit into any team comp and accomplish the job of just about any class. Good initiation with flash up, backline disrupter, great peeler. Riven has a lot of ways in which she can influence the game that other champs don't have. People are just small brained and thinks it's her numbers/lack of counters that make her broken. It's her versatility that really makes her strong. The fact she has no real weakness early game and actually outscales late game shows your lack of understanding for game knowledge and the fact that games are only lasting 25 minutes top with how broken her kit is from jungle ganks shows that even further. Just dont comment if you are spewing horseshit. Get your facts straight
Teh Song (NA)
: The purpose of death's dance is to give healing/lifestealing champions a chance to do that before they are bursted to death. Beating burst is the whole point of the item.
> [{quoted}](name=Teh Song,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QlOWHPBu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-04T17:36:43.710+0000) > > The purpose of death's dance is to give healing/lifestealing champions a chance to do that before they are bursted to death. > Beating burst is the whole point of the item. Thats bursting from power creeping over the metas. Not the fact that they need an item to do so. Your logic is horrible.
: > [{quoted}](name=thefatlazycat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4q7AmjW9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-03T21:53:08.925+0000) > > this isn't a bruiser meta, it's a burst meta, aka assassins and mages. It is true though that a tank meta would be much better we get it bro you only play shen
> [{quoted}](name=DangerousOreo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4q7AmjW9,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-08-03T23:57:28.876+0000) > > we get it bro you only play shen Yeah because he is one of the few only balanced champs rn even in pro play
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: Reduce klepto gold on ranged champions
> [{quoted}](name=CodenameCupcake,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aXtO5PmE,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-06-15T10:57:01.675+0000) > > Grasp has reduced stats, damage and healing on ranged champions because they can proc it easier, why do ranged champions not suffer the same penalty. > > You take ranged top with Klepto and get 600 extra gold and 20 items by the 20 min mark, its beyond stupid The funny thing is that Klepto has a higher percentage of getting better stuff than melees. Its actually stupid how Riot would think melee could proc more. Rito is trolling us all.
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: Ok, now try to play him top lane in his intended role. You'll realize how weak he is compared to any of the meta top-laners.
> [{quoted}](name=Shadowkhan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oeYP5jQk,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-14T07:55:09.162+0000) > > Ok, now try to play him top lane in his intended role. You'll realize how weak he is compared to any of the meta top-laners. Weak is relative man. The other champs just got buffed and overloaded when reworked. Except for ww. that rework was good.
Sillae (NA)
: Her health is so low Pyke can execute her with R the second she's not on a champion
> [{quoted}](name=Sillae,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=28FaFlKM,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-07-29T16:42:11.765+0000) > > Her health is so low Pyke can execute her with R the second she's not on a champion Yes lets use another bad design to counter another bad design
Pika Fox (NA)
: Kill the person she is on. Not really that complicated.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=28FaFlKM,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-07-29T16:21:02.612+0000) > > Kill the person she is on. Not really that complicated. How when she heal spams
: you just have to click on her bro.
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=28FaFlKM,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-29T16:08:03.332+0000) > > you just have to click on her bro. Explain how i can click on her if she sits in champs and heals them to become unkillable
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