xelaker (NA)
: gonna need some charts and graphs for that last bit. mabye a beaker or test tube as well.
i think the teacher in your 8th grade science class has some in her locker. be polite and ask her :) remember to bring them back tho!
: Literally all it takes is one gank and you get screwed as Jayce lol. I've played too much Jayce to not know what screws me. Even a melee fighter can wreck you if you misplay by the smallest margin with basically no way back in the game. You have clearly never played Jayce against someone that knows what they are doing. Also, if he's so broken just play him.
lol? a decent jayce does not fuck up as big as that. ganks top fuck everyone over, jayce isnt special. ive played vs multiple high elo jayce players and let me tell you, there are no ways to counter it other than to HOPE your jungler even bothers with your lane. try to control your ego and understand that maybe the champ you're playing is a bit too strong and needs toning down. the streamers in challenger might be wrong by saying hes op as well because you're just that smart and good .
: Jayce beats all three of them xD Dunno what hes talking about but then again what a lot of people dont understand is that jayce actually needs a lot of skill to be played well.
aa, aa, aa, aa, they try to fight back, melee form e knock back, switch to ranged, aa , aa e q, aa , aa , they are finally low, melee form, jump in and execute, skilled jayce btw
: Wait. You have a way to beat them, but you don't and then say that it's Riots fault for not nerfing a champ?
a way to beat them? playing broken tanks? haha such an exciting counter measure haHAA cant wait to queue up for league of legends to pick a point and click tank just so i can not get smashed in lane haha so goodest counter funnest game video ever!
Cowseed (NA)
: And you're being an asshole. (someone who wasn't an asshole but became an asshole to tell you you were being an asshole)
And you’re an asshole for calling me an asshole. This could go on for days if everyone was as sensitive to words as u . (mods are triggering atm)
: And Jayce doesn't directly counter anyone.
: Orrn as a champion is still very weak his w is busted with too much damage. his kit has too little reliablity out side of his w because of his long delays so if the enemy doesnt brain dead stand in the middle of your w for the fulll duration yea he is weak.
: You said he first picked Jayce so you KNEW you were gonna get shit on if you pick a ''melee fighter''. Take the L and move on , you did that to yourself.
The game before that I was laning against ignite pantheon who had his hecarim jungle dive me every single minute . Thankfully they were both bad but I enjoyed getting my ass handed to me by point and click champions
: If he's standing in your creep wave level 1 he gets minion aggro ;)
It’s not enough damage compared to what he pumps out :)
Feathermane (EUNE)
: Most of the lane bullies like Quinn and Jayce are relegated to a single strategy late game. They are also more vulnerable to ganks and dives. If you absolutely must win your lane 1v1 starting at level 1 because of ego reasons, then either pick an equivalent or be prepared to get matched with worse players.
Funny thing is in a bot lane wins games meta you barely ever get a jungler that doesn’t ignore u even when ur up to ur tower barely struggling to survive the upcoming tower dive from their jungler
FireDrizzle (EUNE)
: Galio has no inherent sustain and they all counter him.
FireDrizzle (EUNE)
: If your last pick you shouldnt need to ban Panth. {{champion:31}} {{champion:3}}{{champion:83}}
All 3 of these champions are boring and lack luster to me. There is no outplay reward for me. I want to feel justified in winning lane. Playing a tank or some boring grave digger isn’t going to make me have fun even when I beat a Jayce player
: At least Jayce doesn't stun you when he jumps in. I've recently had a match vs Jayce as Aurelion Sol and I won it (even if I had to sacrifice a bit of the laning phase). You just need to dodge his poke and you are alright. Pantheon on the other side has only point&click.
How do u dodge Jayce poke if ur a melee and he’s standing in ur own creep wave level 1 stopping u from even moving up and denying u exp?
: > [{quoted}](name=EternalShock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=T53q6OoX,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-12-01T08:42:36.390+0000) > > Let me guess, pick ornn? Ornn is still a very weak champion. (Someone who plays Ornn)
You’re an idiot (Someone that’s not an idiot)
TehNACHO (NA)
: I mean, if it's first pick, you have the opportunity there to counter him then.
Rioter Comments
: holy fudge cho needs to lose his infine scaling or the tru dmg
i enjoy grasp on top of his e removes so much hp all while hes standing still and sustaining. " haha we want him in the jungle so even if hes breaking top who gives a fuck about those top laners haha" - riot games
: Can we do something about panth
j-just play ornn bro im a good supp main i know how top works your thread is perfect. no need to describe how annoying he is. anyone that actually plays top already knows how stupid it is. dont need to explain to some support main why pantheon is annoying so thy can reply with "just ban him haHAA"
: if assassins can't one shot from stealth. twitch shouldn't one hit your entire backline from stealt
: what would be yours then ?
"rito is goodest company me supp main me lvoe rito"
: J4 just one shot my team with lethality
id rather j4 one shot me than a twitch 2 shotting me without landing a single skillshot
: Tired of getting held hostage. Make the surrender at 15 vote be majority.
The score is 30-9 at 19 minutes. i have a 4 man premade making sure to vote no to every ff until 30 minutes in order to piss me off to the max in hopes they can get me banned if i flame. i had to keep my mouth shut, play a lost game with no chance of having fun, AND know the people doing this to me would not be punished. league is a fun experience sometimes.
: So like... never?
So like.... now
: Hashinshin making sense... that can only happen when NA wins worlds.
Or when the balance has now become severely bad and the balance team shows no sign of life
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=EternalShock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iVEkhNa5,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-29T03:19:52.599+0000) > > And then I stated small changes they can make. > > Go ahead and ignore that tho for your “upvote me please” comment on me asking for riot to break my class. I'm not fishing for upvotes, if I would just ride the hate right because BE/OE train everyone is currently on, none of your changes are small though. Bringing back fervor would require a revamping of the entire mastery system or even something like it, yeah, removing more useless masteries for minion destablizier for something like that would be the way to go, but that isn't just a click and done fix kind of thing. Nerfing tanks and ADCs would just put them in the exact same position you are. Why is it anymore fair they have to be bad then bruisers? The fact you are saying I want my class to be good, fuck all others is a perfect example of the difficult of balance, you can't please everyone nor is it even remotely possible to have everyone balanced at once. So once again, go back to season 2 meta where brusiers were the tanks and the DPS while being unstoppable to CC? What more tenacity do you need beyond merc treads?
I don’t remember saying make every class as bad as mine. Nerfing tanks and adcs would only balance them Overpowered = not nerfed Nerf then -> no longer overpowered
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=EternalShock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iVEkhNa5,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-29T03:00:23.882+0000) > > 3 seasons of being tortured top gives me plenty of leniency with me being biased. > > 3 seasons of tank meta into ranged meta into tank meta again gives me enough reason to up and say “give every bruiser 5k damage on q” > > Give me fucking something > > Give me fervor back > > Give me something like fervor > > Nerf tanks? > > Nerf shields and cc against melee fighters? > > Give me tenacity options that don’t suck cock? > > Something? > > Hello? > Riot? > > Can I play the game? The fact you are rather biasly saying "Why won't Riot buff my class, fuck the others, they had their turn." showcases why balance is so hard.
And then I stated small changes they can make. Go ahead and ignore that tho for your “upvote me please” comment on me asking for riot to break my class.
: What is your favorite part about Overcharge?
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=EternalShock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iVEkhNa5,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-29T02:47:03.981+0000) > > I did play during season 2. > > Balance wasn’t that bad because u could easily ban them out and riot actually listened and nerfed shit after a while rather than months. Uhhhhh, we gonna act like season 2 wasn't "Play Bruiser or don't get to play the game then." because if so, I feel like you are quite a bit bias.
3 seasons of being tortured top gives me plenty of leniency with me being biased. 3 seasons of tank meta into ranged meta into tank meta again gives me enough reason to up and say “give every bruiser 5k damage on q” Give me fucking something Give me fervor back Give me something like fervor Nerf tanks? Nerf shields and cc against melee fighters? Give me tenacity options that don’t suck cock? Something? Hello? Riot? Can I play the game?
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=EternalShock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iVEkhNa5,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-29T02:28:19.980+0000) > > I’d be fine with my class being somewhat viable for once in the past 3 seasons. > > Let me have fun like everyone else is for a month and then nerf my class please. > > I want to be like these tank mains who do absolutely nothing and get rewarded for it > > I want to walk into lane as riven and not be fucked in the ass for the first 15 minutes by the tank and his jungler Should have played during season 2, because these literal exact same things you are saying, were being said by the tanks and ADCs and supports after two seasons of them being on top.
I did play during season 2. Balance wasn’t that bad because u could easily ban them out and riot actually listened and nerfed shit after a while rather than months.
Phridolin (EUW)
: Serious question: is vi or shyv broken atm?
Damage is really high so if u snowball on vi or shyvana u get pretty strong . Then again ur playing vi and shyvana so if u don’t get free kills ur going to be useless late game
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=EternalShock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iVEkhNa5,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-29T02:21:10.923+0000) > > Nerf the living fuck out of tank damage and sustain is what we also need. Had that before, that is what lead to the bruiser meta back in season 2 where bruisers built pure tank and out DPSed everyone.
I’d be fine with my class being somewhat viable for once in the past 3 seasons. Let me have fun like everyone else is for a month and then nerf my class please. I want to be like these tank mains who do absolutely nothing and get rewarded for it I want to walk into lane as riven and not be fucked in the ass for the first 15 minutes by the tank and his jungler
Sebbo (EUW)
: I feel really bad when I have to use Aery as a mid laner
Imagine what fighters feel against tanks Let me poke this ornn with a 40 damage fairy please!!!!! All while he’s doing 200 damage with a w proc because I tried to cs
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=EternalShock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iVEkhNa5,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-11-29T01:34:32.940+0000) > > i remember 1 man carries actually being possible 2 seasons ago and good players able to carry terrible players. > > now? you have 1 bad adc and the game is turned into their favor where you have to work 50x harder to make up for the bad adc. That...hasn't changed, if anything, you can do that now more easily then before because of the tank meta being dead. > one thing they could do is cut damage by 25 percent and nerf the living fuck out of the cockroaches that are bot lane. So go back to tank meta which people didn't like? > the second thing would be to make junglers actually have to try to level up and maybe give them a challenge in the jungler where they dont get the same exp and gold as someone actually playing against other human beings. Would be game for that. > another thing would be to bring back wards so solo laners can actually do somthing about junglers camping them other than sitting under tower and hoping they dont get dove for being anything but a tank top. Would love that too, but they won't, it slowed the games to crawls with ward wars being more prominent then actual fighting.
Nerf the living fuck out of tank damage and sustain is what we also need. Tank meta is not dead The only viable champs top are tanks and ranged champs. Bruisers and fighters are being tortured up top
: She has the best most versatile kit out of all the adc's. She is awesome. But knowing that she has to hop around and focus fire someone allows you to outplay her. It helps if you play her yourself for a while. The only unbalanced adc I see right now is Ezreal, and thats not likely to ever change.
If u think Tristana is “awesome” and not busted, you’re a tristana player. She’s the safest champ in the game with the highest damage for how safe she is She’s overloaded with escapes and peel and has too many resets for her midget ass To be frank. She’s in need of a w rework. U got me fucked up if u think 4 jumps are ok in a team fight
Jamaree (NA)
: How? Where would they begin? What unbalanced thing are you talking about?
i remember 1 man carries actually being possible 2 seasons ago and good players able to carry terrible players. now? you have 1 bad adc and the game is turned into their favor where you have to work 50x harder to make up for the bad adc. before if you were good enough u could carry 1-2 people easily if you worked around them. now u just take the free loss and "move on" one thing they could do is cut damage by 25 percent and nerf the living fuck out of the cockroaches that are bot lane. the second thing would be to make junglers actually have to try to level up and maybe give them a challenge in the jungle where they dont get the same exp and gold as someone actually playing against other human beings. another thing would be to bring back wards so solo laners can actually do somthing about junglers camping them other than sitting under tower and hoping they dont get dove for being anything but a tank top.
: No , I don't bother reading shitposts. sry
: Get up to plat 3+ and he won't be banned anymore
If he’s picked it’s either by a one trick or an inbred looking to feed and get camped in d5+ Either way I get to play the game and not get shit on by a tank and MAYBE get to have a skill matchup against him as riven
Yenn (NA)
: Early game support damage has become ridiculous
I’m watching YouTube clips of a Janna doing 200 damage with a w building only support items and such but because no resistances every single support now deals damage. Even soraka deals ok damage for her champ Lulu sona nami and bard have now become aggro supports poking the adc everytime they try to cs for a decent chunk of their hp Doesn’t excuse bot from behind broken too but ya know, FUCK bot lane In general and the balance team that refuses to nerf it I have support bards roaming top 8 minutes in missing their q but auto attacking me for 250 damage and can even half chunk me if I don’t have flash Support main btw!!! Good at the game btw !!!
Calabok (NA)
: proof?
Literally play against sona Nami and bard bot once Or play the game and figure it out for yourself Then again u play brand mid and usually support brand so u wouldn’t want ur champ to get nerfed for being able to 1v1 most adcs early game as a support :)
: someone is focusing on on AFTER midseason and obviously didnt play before midseason, but aight, use all caps and shout like a child. Gnar was a pretty big monster bruiser, so was darius in solo que, did you also forget how broken maokai was? or Sion? Youre focusing on literally the second half only, and even in the second half, adc's werent good. ARDENT was. Tanks and bruisers still were huge, but ardent threw an anchor in that, but when ardent wasnt used? It was back to bruisers and tanks. Read between the lines and stop memeing
Adcs have been broken for 2 seasons if u don’t understand this u won’t understand anything else I type
: someone is focusing on on AFTER midseason and obviously didnt play before midseason, but aight, use all caps and shout like a child. Gnar was a pretty big monster bruiser, so was darius in solo que, did you also forget how broken maokai was? or Sion? Youre focusing on literally the second half only, and even in the second half, adc's werent good. ARDENT was. Tanks and bruisers still were huge, but ardent threw an anchor in that, but when ardent wasnt used? It was back to bruisers and tanks. Read between the lines and stop memeing
Gnar isn’t a melee bruiser .Gnar is an annoying fuckhole of a design that I don’t think is balanced or interactive in anyway. To say adcs weren’t good even without ardent is really just.. Idk man somethings up with u Adcs are broken right now and ardent isn’t here. Please revelaute how u think of adcs and the role that is bot before replying Right now every pro knows that bot lane needs serious nerfs.
Durzaka (NA)
: It wasnt busted. It was literally their only keystone option. Thats why it was used 90% of the time.
this is what I’m trying to say. How can u possibly think fervor was busted on fighters It was the only thing stopping them from becoming completely useless even in laning phase against tanks and team fights
: AGAIN, no counter feedback. What do you say was last seasons meta was? Becuase I'm pretty sure it was tanky fighters and Ardent. You can keep saying what you want without providing ANY constructive feedback. And I was trying to brag about rank, just pointing out that silver elo isnt usually very knowledgeable on actual impact of things in game, hence, they are in silver. Many people claim to be smurfs, so I'm doubtful, but if you are, then you would understand this. Cheers mate
Adcs and FUCKING supports you Mong A D C S A N D S U P P O R T S WHY SHOULD I SPELL THIS OUT U PLAYED THE GAME HOW DO U NOT KNOW THE ANSWER how on earth do u not know the answer after witnessing ardent cancer and the entire mid season of adcs wiping everyone’s face off the rift They are STILL doing this and STILL haven’t been nerfed along with supports Tanky fighters? Name one . No melee champ that didn’t go full tank was doing well a majority of last season .
Barkley (NA)
: Can we talk about how broken Malzahar is right now?
Because of no resistances laning vs him as anything but a mobile mage has become impossible . After 6 he completely shits on u if u aren’t zed and even then he has his ulti for Hanks He’s just become more annoying than he was before
: These days you have these options: Stormraider's, which is horrible on almost every juggernaut (maybe it can work on Illaoi and Darius) Grasp: You become a meatshield. It's boring, it's not fun, and it doesn't feel like a Juggernaut. It feels like a tank, and it's boring as all hell, but it has the most success. Aftershock: Used vs fast trading matchups (Riven best example) where you abuse E. Really conditional, but is pretty fun PTA/Lethal Tempo: The problems with these are that they just take too long to apply. Even in lane, it's hard to stick onto most targets for long enough to trigger them effectively and consistently. Lategame, there is no way to reliably trigger them, and most juggernauts rely on their abilities rather than AAs post laning phase as well. Glacial: It has similar problems with PTA/Lethal. Not exactly the same, but similar. Electrocute: It's honestly better than PTA/Lethal if you want to go aggro, but the rest of the tree isn't super great on most juggernauts, and it also lacks attack speed. Juggernauts tend to want extended trades, rather than the short bursts of electrocute. The high CD also sucks Predator: You high? It's fun, but please don't. Fleet Footwork: It sorta feels ok in lane but it's bad lategame. Worst of both worlds. So the main ones you have are: Grasp, and conditionally Stormraider's/Aftershock.
The thing is grasp and aftershock are the only things riven can take vs tanks to BE ABLE to farm without getting outpoked AS hard She still loses after first back Any one rushes tabis and u no longer damage them Tank items are so strong with runes while fighters can’t do shit early and then get out classed in fights
: again, no explanation. just shouting shit. you have no credibility. Youre also pretty low elo with Silver MMR. Maybe you just dont understand the game enough to understand :/
I could be level 5 and I still wouldn’t be as ignorant as you. To say last meta was about bruisers is to say you are without a doubt a very stupid human being No one in their right mind could possibly think that No one This is a smurf and I don’t need to brag about ranks or anything towards someone like you
: Fervor was used almost 90% of the time on fighters. It was busted. So they tuned it for 1v1. I dont see the issue. The meta is for assassins. Laste meta was tank and bruisers. Deal with the changes or leave.
it was BUSTED? LOLLLL JESUS CHRIST "LAST META WAS BRUISERS' holy shittttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt HOLYLYYYYYYY SHIT this guy is plat 5
: I mean are you gonna throw in a "how it isnt" or are you just gonna say no, like a child. Explain yourself. How is it not like fervor in the sense that, after hitting the enemy you get damage buff? Explain how it isnt? Don;t just say "No"
im a child for not explaining something on the internet? press the attack doesnt do half as much as fervor did in teamfights. extra overall ad over extra damage on a specific champion ? do i need to explain this? no btw
: yeah, so intsead of ramping up damage you just get additional damage after 3 hits. Basically the same thing
: Press the Attack is basically fervor?
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