: Patch 7.24b notes
Uhh, why is kayn being buffed? I'm almost positive he was considered tier 1 if not higher before this..
zlumpy (NA)
: We always get super excited whenever we see champions having fun play patterns in more than one role. ...I would say historically this is an incredibly false statement in the Zyra section. You booted malz out of support. You kicked alister and Taric out of top. You ruined my Nunu support from way back. You pushed a ton of champions out of midlane. I have seen unconventional jungles kicked out out of the farming woods... Tbh it seems if the community tries to find a place to play a character that Doesn't fit your pre conceived ideas of where they should go you get pretty heavy handed with those champs. I'm actually surprised you are letting some characters stay toplane atm.
Most of those off-lane picks ended up just abusing one mechanic and/or being entirely unfun to play against. Ex: alistar abusing sheen proc on W, lulu abusing ranged poke, malzahar being malzahar, etc.
: I can confirm (for now) that they include those 8 champion mini icons displayed. Just bought it 8 times, got all 8 and is now giving me a purchase error... So I assume there are only those 8, I wish I hadn't spent ANY blue essence on it now. I only wanted like a pantheon, master yi, nocturne, kayle or leona, even ashe would of been nice. The Lux and Kat ones are kind of cute I guess but meh.
All I wanted was kat or lux and they were the last two I got. Never lucky.
: Patch 7.18 notes
I guess Riot is still going to ignore that quick cast + self cast has been broken on lee sin's safeguard (W) for months.
Rioter Comments
: Quick + Self Cast Broken on Lee Sin
STILL NOT FIXED! Riot please wtf
: Oh no we are losing random low impact starting stats in exchange for modernized system that gives adaptive meaningful choices. Its the end of the world GG Riot you ruined the game.
To be fair, runes can give around 1000 gold worth of stats at the start of the game, but that's even more of a reason to fix the system.
: Buying Runes Between Now and Preseason
I really don't think new rune pages should be paid for. Like the current mastery system, for a new player, it's pretty hard to edit one from nothing during champ select, especially if you're last pick. With only two rune pages in the new system, it seems almost guaranteed that players will have to edit them during champ select, making it easier on more experienced players just makes no sense because they're the ones who will be less likely to actually need extras as they would most likely create a situational page for the game.
: As I mention in previous posts. IP is useless for most of us who own every champion and have a worthless amount of champion shards. In case we get compensated by getting back all the IP we spent, RIOT should introduce the system of converting IP to blue or orange essence, if they value us costumers. My idea for example 1000 IP = 100 orange essence = 500 blue essence That would also be the ideal IP sink people are asking for ages. Riot probably wont give us RP back already spent in the game nor will they want you to buy everything you want for RP in the next half year. They are a company they want us to spend more money on the game.(it is understandable) We also wont accept worthless icons for "good times" sake. We had to make sacrifices choosing between having fun with new champions or having equal footing against others with runes and rune pages. The new rune system sounds fun and fresh and should be implemented. Having the ability to convert IP to the essence of our choosing will help us activate skins from the chests. This would solve everything and every side would be happy.
> [{quoted}](name=OP Garen Support,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rFEgieMA,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-06-04T01:12:05.149+0000) > Riot probably wont give us RP back already spent in the game nor will they want you to buy everything you want for RP in the next half year. They are a company they want us to spend more money on the game.(it is understandable) Unless you bought all 18 extra rune pages with RP and didn't get them on sale, the RP compensation wouldn't be much at all, you could maybe buy a single ultimate or a few different skins but if you spent that much money on the game you deserve to get something for it. I know I and most other players would be perfectly happy with just getting the IP and RP refunded, even something like half of that would be fine. They should just allow players a choice to have it refunded or get some other crafting or cosmetic rewards. Some people with almost all the champions I'm sure would rather have cosmetics than a refund so having it just be determined by whether or not you own all the champs isn't a foolproof plan.
: when is fiora getting nerfed?
Honestly I don't see anyone ever ban or complain about fiora, she somewhat strong but definitely not OP. She's almost useless in teamfights if she isn't ridiculously fed and doesn't proc her ult heal. Her laning phase is fairly good but she still gets out damaged or poked out by most meta top laners.
øHaruø (NA)
: You gotta be really malicious to try and read those tiny names.
> [{quoted}](name=Kriske,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=FVMKmvW6,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2017-06-27T07:00:09.746+0000) > > You gotta be really malicious to try and read those tiny names. Or you can open up the original link and it's rather easy for most of them.
: Message to the rammus rework team
I like that his q has actual counterplay now and his w has a defined weakness to it. (although probably too much of a weakness) His e isn't bad at all, it's point and click cc so I'd much rather see it not be the most powerful ability. His ult definitely seems weak, but aside from some numbers changes, I think the rework is completely fine. Rammus is never going to be a great jungler because his kit just by definition counters heavy auto attack based champions which makes him too situational.
Rioter Comments
: quick cast + self cast w on lee
Rioter Comments
Atriious (NA)
: Unable to Equip Owned Ward Skins
Same problem, I went into a custom game and it let me change it. I haven't tested it in a real game yet, but I assume that the client should remember it.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ethereal Mist,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NXrFPYnu,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-02-08T03:05:43.528+0000) > > Ok, I see what you mean. I didn't really think about that because most of my friend vary a lot in terms of rankings so we can't actually queue together in ranked anymore. Still, the chances of getting matched with a 3+ man queue aren't THAT high and it's still almost the same as just a 2 man queue with one person carrying the other. It's not about whether you'll face imbalanced premades. It's about the lack of clarity in what it represents. See the link.
Sorry for the late reply, but rank represents whether you win or lose most games. That is ALWAYS what your rank has represented. It doesn't matter if you go 0/10 every game on tryndamere but you push and win the majority of your games. All the system cares about is whether you win or lose which is flawed by itself. League is the kind of game where having bad teammates can negatively affect how well you perform even if you are better than the players on the other team. Almost every other competitive game in existence does not have this aspect to the game in the same extent league does. FPS games are a great example, even if your team can give the enemy kills, you always have the opportunity to do well. Sure, there are things like killstreaks, but it is MUCH easier to shut down players because they basically lose most of their bonuses on death. In league, when your bot lane feeds 10+ kills, the enemy is already strong and no amount of outplaying or shutting them down will ever make them weak again. This makes it MUCH easier to carry FPS games single handed, whereas with league, one bad teammate can easily determine the outcome of the game by himself. This would be fine, except for the fact that your rank is determined purely by win or loss, not directly connected to how well you play at all until a huge amount of games have been played. That is my problem with the system and there is not an easy way to fix it while still maintaining league as a team game.
: I was placed from silver 2 to silver 5 after winning 8 games and I got to silver 3 with winning like 80% of my games. BTW you only had 3 assits on nidalee, when you should be getting much more assits rather than kills as a jungler.
Not what happens when your laner walks up and dies 90% of the time when you gank. On top of that, why would I give kills to bad players? If I know that they can't play the game, I should try to take my team on my shoulders instead of wasting gold on players that won't make use of it. I climbed from silver 2 to gold 5 in the matter of like 15 or so games because I got fairly lucky. The point is that solo queue shouldn't be about just getting lucky streaks of good teammates as much as it should be your individual skill. Yea, the game I mentioned was just an EXTREME case, but it's annoying how often you win or lose because of one or two bad players on a certain team.
Johnzo (NA)
: So when can we see Sej getting unnerfed? I couldn't play her at all last season because she was always insta-banned and she's gotten so nerfed that playing her now just seems irresponsible. The last jungle item I've built on her was Spirit of the Golem to give you an idea. That was a good season for we hipster Sej mains (with the traditional skin); not too weak to regret, not too strong to be in the banning and nerfing spotlights.
A champion with a ranged amumu ult is bad? Yea, she's definently not a top tier jungler right now, but she's not that bad.
: {{champion:115}} YAHOOOOOO! Can't wait to melt my ennemies into this inferno BOOOOOOOOM! :DDD
LMFAO -Duskblade 2016
: Yes, it makes it very different and the new champion select has nothing to do with it. Just because you can que by yourself doesn't make it a solo que ladder. It's all Dynamic Que regardless. If a guy only plays with 4 other friends, he can get the same ranking as you despite being in a totally different environment from a solo que player. That's why people [don't respect dynamic que as a measure of individual skill.](http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/b0VZUOVk-the-real-problem-with-dynamic-ques-isnt-matchmaking-imbalance) You don't know how someone got their dynamic que ladder (solo, duo, 2 friends, trio, etc.) so it loses consistency and predictive value. A pure solo que ladder will be released in the next few weeks. I'd guess March but I hope sooner.
Ok, I see what you mean. I didn't really think about that because most of my friend vary a lot in terms of rankings so we can't actually queue together in ranked anymore. Still, the chances of getting matched with a 3+ man queue aren't THAT high and it's still almost the same as just a 2 man queue with one person carrying the other.
: Riot please don't forget about waveclear mages.
Good to see they got some buffs last patch, nice riot!
: There is no real solo que atm but good rant. BTW: Being a OTB has nothing to do with a champion being OP.
> [{quoted}](name=LaughingStapler,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NXrFPYnu,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-02-08T02:53:01.119+0000) > > There is no real solo que atm but good rant. What do you mean there is no real solo queue? Just because we can choose two positions now doesn't make it that much different from solo queue. Also, it seems like you're confusing OTP (one trick pony) with something else because playing only an OP champion is an easy way to climb when the scenario presents itself.
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: Let me take a different approach on this. 1. The biggest counter item to Tryndamere has been made completely useless. RIP {{item:3075}} 2. Tryndamere can literally split push all game to win. There is not a single person who can duel Tryndamere when he gets rageblade and attack speed. 3. If you're squishy, you'd better hope you have some serious CC on your team. Because Tryndamere can E to you, auto you twice, and you're down. Did I mention his ult lets him stand there and tank being focused for a full 5 seconds? 4. His biggest counter used to be {{champion:17}}. As much as I hate the little turd, it saddens me to see he can no longer keep Tryndamere in check. 5. Tryndamere is not considered the "strongest" because he hasn't been utilized in the LCS as much as other champions. If one famous LCS player plays Tryndamere and has success, Tryndamere will shoot up to god tier. Don't believe me? Remember what happened with Veigar?
> [{quoted}](name=Melledoneus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9sBXAo34,comment-id=000c0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-17T03:06:15.889+0000) > > Let me take a different approach on this. > > 1. The biggest counter item to Tryndamere has been made completely useless. RIP {{item:3075}} > > 2. Tryndamere can literally split push all game to win. There is not a single person who can duel Tryndamere when he gets rageblade and attack speed. > > 3. If you're squishy, you'd better hope you have some serious CC on your team. Because Tryndamere can E to you, auto you twice, and you're down. Did I mention his ult lets him stand there and tank being focused for a full 5 seconds? > > 4. His biggest counter used to be {{champion:17}}. As much as I hate the little turd, it saddens me to see he can no longer keep Tryndamere in check. > > 5. Tryndamere is not considered the "strongest" because he hasn't been utilized in the LCS as much as other champions. If one famous LCS player plays Tryndamere and has success, Tryndamere will shoot up to god tier. Don't believe me? Remember what happened with Veigar? Literally any decent play that has a champion capable of kiting can 1v1 a tryndamere.. Of course if you're sitting in melee range trying to outdamage him he will destroy you, just because you can't play against him doesn't make him op at all. Also, thornmail is worthless? What the actual fuck are you smoking?
: Well, 1. He gets a free shield by just moving around 2. His crits are insane especially with the new keystones 3. He gets a knockup 4. He can dash repeatedly forever as long as there are new enemies nearby, making him very hard to even hit in the first place with a minion wave in lane 5. If you are about to land a skillshot he can block it with a wall that blocks pretty much everything He's a very hard champion to do anything to. It is already hard to hit him with skillshots as he can just keep dashing, he has a knockup, he can block everything with a wall, and his crits are just insane. Last I checked his winrate was around 50%. Can he be beaten? Yes. Is he hard to lane against? Definitely, especially as an ap midlaner. He can spam while you have to ration your mana thanks to those nice mana pots being taken away. What I was thinking was what if they changed his dashes so it was like Ahri's ult? He could dash 3 times to 3 things in a certain amount of time, and after that it goes on a longer cooldown. That'd at least make it a bit easier to actually hit him with something.
> [{quoted}](name=Charyzard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JqaroE8k,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2016-01-17T05:43:02.135+0000) > > Well, > > 1. He gets a free shield by just moving around > 2. His crits are insane especially with the new keystones > 3. He gets a knockup > 4. He can dash repeatedly forever as long as there are new enemies nearby, making him very hard to even hit in the first place with a minion wave in lane > 5. If you are about to land a skillshot he can block it with a wall that blocks pretty much everything > > He's a very hard champion to do anything to. It is already hard to hit him with skillshots as he can just keep dashing, he has a knockup, he can block everything with a wall, and his crits are just insane. > > Last I checked his winrate was around 50%. > > Can he be beaten? Yes. Is he hard to lane against? Definitely, especially as an ap midlaner. He can spam while you have to ration your mana thanks to those nice mana pots being taken away. > > What I was thinking was what if they changed his dashes so it was like Ahri's ult? He could dash 3 times to 3 things in a certain amount of time, and after that it goes on a longer cooldown. That'd at least make it a bit easier to actually hit him with something. Um, you kinda forgot the point that yasuo can't do fucking anything to you if he's just dashing around in a minions wave all the time and doing that also makes him extremely gankable because the wave will push to your tower. The ONLY problem with yasuo is that bad players can't exploit is massive weaknesses which leads to him not being able to be buffed for high levels of play which really sucks for the actually decent players.
: Spectator mode delay in Custom games
Ahaha, riot doing something that doesn't make them money... classic!
: My account got permanently banned for using a mouse
Riot's responses are such a joke. I have literally never solved any problem i've ever had by submitting a ticket.
: Hey man i went 8-2 and got bronze 2 from gold xD i dont deserve this shit
> [{quoted}](name=Teenage Riven,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KNXEHPeG,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-01-21T23:06:13.524+0000) > > Hey man i went 8-2 and got bronze 2 from gold xD i dont deserve this shit Your rank is not determined by mmr. Promos is almost all about mmr. If you had really low mmr for your rank then the system will try to put you where "you belong."
: Explain 2.11% playrate.
> [{quoted}](name=BeatzBoyFTW,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4yRWzce3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-01-22T13:46:06.211+0000) > > Explain 2.11% playrate. Why does play rate mean anything?
: Fuck Yasuo. Play Adventure Time Battle Party and check out Finn.
> [{quoted}](name=I AmNot A Person,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JqaroE8k,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2016-01-17T02:34:57.780+0000) > > Fuck Yasuo. Play Adventure Time Battle Party and check out Finn. More like guntBUSTED
DrNova (NA)
: He isn't op, but he's far from up. A good yas is a terror, even if you are competent yourself.
> [{quoted}](name=DrNova,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JqaroE8k,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-01-17T02:19:07.921+0000) > > He isn't op, but he's far from up. > > A good yas is a terror, even if you are competent yourself. Against an immobile mage, yes. Against any sort of assassin or mobile mage he doesn't stand a chance. Thanks you for posting something relevant to the topic for once.
: I don't think he's OP. I just think he's a filthy weeb. Really Riot should publicly post all the names of Yasuo players on Facebook so we all know who not to interact with in real life. Nobody likes a weeb.
> [{quoted}](name=Maximum Morde,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JqaroE8k,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-01-17T01:57:38.002+0000) > > I don't think he's OP. I just think he's a filthy weeb. Really Riot should publicly post all the names of Yasuo players on Facebook so we all know who not to interact with in real life. Nobody likes a weeb. r8 8/8 m8
: Do people still think yasuo is op?
Borkeness No-skilledness op pls nerf
Rioter Comments
: Not to mention there isn't a single champion who counters him now. If you somehow manage to beat him in a fight, he can run away with his stupid mobility. You can't run from him, either. You need to lock him down for a full 7-10 seconds and work as a team to take down Tryndamere. All the new itemization and armor nerfs really made Tryndamere a broken sleeper pick. If he was any fun, he would be pick or ban right now.
> [{quoted}](name=Melledoneus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9sBXAo34,comment-id=000c00000000,timestamp=2016-01-16T19:58:29.350+0000) > > Not to mention there isn't a single champion who counters him now. If you somehow manage to beat him in a fight, he can run away with his stupid mobility. You can't run from him, either. You need to lock him down for a full 7-10 seconds and work as a team to take down Tryndamere. All the new itemization and armor nerfs really made Tryndamere a broken sleeper pick. If he was any fun, he would be pick or ban right now. By not a single champion that counter him you mean any ranged champion destroys him in lane and almost any mobility will make it fairly easy to kite him out and kill him once his ult runs out. A champions "fun" level is hardly a determining factor in whether they are played much, a lot of players find fun in winning games so they'll pick whatever champion they feel is the strongest at the moment in the meta.
FastAsHeck (EUNE)
: 1) yes, 1 second windup **that doesn't actually tell you where he is aiming until it fires** isn't enough for my dumbass to prepare for. 2) thresh brings way too many things, including damage, tankiness, catching, escape for anyone and teamfight utility. He isn't nerfed because LC$ 3) sad days when we can't make a joke without a keyboard warrior out of nowhere taking it seriously.
> [{quoted}](name=ZoumeroBiftekaki,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4uVOtt1A,comment-id=0017000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-16T20:13:25.680+0000) > > 1) yes, 1 second windup **that doesn't actually tell you where he is aiming until it fires** isn't enough for my dumbass to prepare for. > > 2) thresh brings way too many things, including damage, tankiness, catching, escape for anyone and teamfight utility. He isn't nerfed because LC$ > > 3) sad days when we can't make a joke without a keyboard warrior out of nowhere taking it seriously. Complaining about a champion isn't a joke, but ok...
: It's not half as bad as laning against Tryndamere. You better hope you have someone that can delete him in less than a second, because that guy DOES NOT DIE.
> [{quoted}](name=Melledoneus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9sBXAo34,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2016-01-16T08:58:55.597+0000) > > It's not half as bad as laning against Tryndamere. You better hope you have someone that can delete him in less than a second, because that guy DOES NOT DIE. The only problem with laning against tryndamere is how stupid lucky crits are. Honestly I don't know why they didn't removed crits along with dodge forever ago...
: League never has been or will be better than the Cinderhulk meta
I think the people that like tank meta were the people playing tanks... It was absolute hell if you wanted to play anything other than a tank or a direct counter to a tank. That is not at all fun or interactive.
: Pretty shocked this wasn't thought of in New Champ Select
This is not even close to the biggest problem with the new system, but still a quite valid issue. The most simple solution is just to not choose for the pick intent. Just type in chat what champion you want because it literally does nothing besides show the champion for your allies and let you select it faster.
FastAsHeck (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Br4ndon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4uVOtt1A,comment-id=0017,timestamp=2016-01-15T22:06:55.167+0000) > > There {{champion:412}} are {{champion:412}} a {{champion:412}} few {{champion:412}} hitboxes {{champion:412}} that {{champion:412}} should {{champion:412}} be {{champion:412}} looked {{champion:412}} at. you didn't have enough {{champion:412}} so I fixed it
> [{quoted}](name=ZoumeroBiftekaki,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4uVOtt1A,comment-id=00170000,timestamp=2016-01-16T12:00:19.785+0000) > > you didn't have enough {{champion:412}} so I fixed it Oh, I guess that 1 second windup time wasn't enough for your dumbass to prepare for it. Better nerf thresh because players are too bad to dodge his hook.
: If you're going to buff Leblanc's chain speed then at least fix it's hitbox
I don't really see why leblanc needed buffed in the first place. She's not that amazing or anything but when champs like ziggs exists you can't warrant a buff to lb but not to ziggs. It seems like riot cares way more about buffing the somewhat weak but still oftenly played champions WAY more than buffing really underplayed champions that actually need the buff.
: It would probably be an improvement if players were given a list of the roles and ticked off the ones they wanted. This isn't fun for people who only want one role, and it isn't always fun for everyone else, because some people are so desperate to get what they want they'll steal it from someone else. In the meantime, you'll just have to make do.
> [{quoted}](name=Puddinglax,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uNwnUmA1,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-01-15T23:59:26.708+0000) > > It would probably be an improvement if players were given a list of the roles and ticked off the ones they wanted. This isn't fun for people who only want one role, and it isn't always fun for everyone else, because some people are so desperate to get what they want they'll steal it from someone else. > > In the meantime, you'll just have to make do. It's also super annoying that you and a friend can't have the same two roles chosen. I'd imagine it would be really annoying for people that want to play bot lane with a friend but they can't get it guaranteed because of the garbage system. I REALLY hope more people complain about this so that riot will actually do something.
Rioter Comments
: NINJA nerf to Poppy's q (Hammer Shock) after casting e (Heroic charge)
I highly doubt they will go through with this. I have no clue how they even though about this as being a buff except for the mentally challenged played that can't hit a stunned opponent.
: Can we add champion voice reactions to their getting banned in champ select?
Ha, you'd have to pay 29.99 for each champion and then you could pay another 9.99 for a voice modifier.
: Rengar, Yasuo, Riven and Vayne are broken, unfun, counterplay lacking champions.
: I am really fucking sick and tired of seeing Zed and Lee every fucking game
Is someone seriously complaining about zed being op? He he by far the most counterplay of any assassin in existence and people still manage to complain about him. Seriously, fucking build qss or hourglass and learn to time it and he is even more useless than normal in teamfights. People underestimate his early burst potential and end up feeding him so they immediately think he's op instead of just learning the game. Same goes for lee sin, his lockdown can't be cleansed which can feel annoying, but any dash at all can easily lead to an outplay on his kick and leave him in the entire enemy team without cooldowns. The only problem with these champs is the annoying fuckwads that think they should be able to do the same thing as them with way easier champions.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ethereal Mist,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kE2ukLrH,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-12-25T03:48:27.346+0000) > > It used to. The only real reason it doesn't block tower shots is because of balance issues. Go watch the old Yasuo champion spotlight, it NEVER blocked tower shots.
> [{quoted}](name=MorganFreemanBot,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kE2ukLrH,comment-id=0054,timestamp=2015-12-25T04:12:47.920+0000) > > Go watch the old Yasuo champion spotlight, it NEVER blocked tower shots. It was considered a bug, but yes it could block tower shots at one point in time. There are plenty of videos on youtube showcasing it.
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