: I'm not sure how I received an escalation for a temp suspension
You definitely want to post your chat logs if you want people to help. Also, yes, your name is silly and childish. Hard to argue from a place of power with a name like that.
: Got banned for this, it's golden comedy time
It looks more like you are getting on your team's nugs every time they make a mistake or something you think is a mistake. Just pay attention to your own game.
: Let's talk about these people who are getting banned for being "Toxic"
Anonymity. There is a layer of empathy missing on the internet because you can't see the other person, your brain doesn't fully register them as real.
: Ok board moderators.... Sure love abusing your power...
The r word is hateful, we are backing away from using it.
: As someone who is also bipolar and, instead of spending their entire life trying to relearn how to interact with people, opted for self-employment, isolation, and avoidance of reality, no.
> [{quoted}](name=Kat XD,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Tmz2ZF7g,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-10-01T22:53:57.716+0000) > > As someone who is also bipolar and, instead of spending their entire life trying to relearn how to interact with people, opted for self-employment, isolation, and avoidance of reality, no. I guess... enjoy your terrible lonely life then?
: The system is biased against Barbarians.
As someone who is bipolar and spent their entire life trying to relearn how to interact with people and reality: deal with it. You have to change your behavior. It is not some sort of play against human nature. Be glad it is the only thing you have to relearn.
: Riot has finally pushed me away for good.
Because you are antagonizing your team.
: RIOT Suspending Accounts
Well, post the chat logs. Show us you were just stating facts and not being toxic
: honest to god I actually had the most fun playing this game as Singed support and just running around lane to lane ruining the game for my team. People would lose their shit and I could just report them after getting player punished box after player punished box but I would be unscathed because I wouldn't chat and I'd just spam laugh on their dead bodies. Sure my mmr took a hit but I've lost all hope in climbing to plat in solo q which I know I'm capable of.
> [{quoted}](name=SingedSupport,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9Bqypx7G,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-09-16T04:55:02.156+0000) > > honest to god I actually had the most fun playing this game as Singed support and just running around lane to lane ruining the game for my team. People would lose their shit and I could just report them after getting player punished box after player punished box but I would be unscathed because I wouldn't chat and I'd just spam laugh on their dead bodies. Sure my mmr took a hit but I've lost all hope in climbing to plat in solo q which I know I'm capable of. "I enjoy ruining other people's day" is not a normal or healthy sentence, no.
: Leaver Defenders: "Well how can you tell if it was an intentional leave or disconnect?"
Report them. If they put it in chat, they might get punished.
: Bringing it up isn't what makes it true, its the experimentation that people do on it even in videos that show its false, you say im not in the position to analyze it yet surely i am because when it comes down to a situation such as a 1v2 report, with the team feeding intentionally and flaming then it really does show that its flawed whether you agree or not, even if im biased, that statistic ALONE shows that the system is flawed and singles people out.
> [{quoted}](name=Pumpedhero,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=41WUP70H,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-10T19:16:26.401+0000) > > Bringing it up isn't what makes it true, its the experimentation that people do on it even in videos that show its false, you say im not in the position to analyze it yet surely i am because when it comes down to a situation such as a 1v2 report, with the team feeding intentionally and flaming then it really does show that its flawed whether you agree or not, even if im biased, that statistic ALONE shows that the system is flawed and singles people out. There are also the earth is flat videos.
Ýisus (NA)
: Censoring Unpopular Topics even when they do not break the EULA
Chat policies and Riot sexual harassment are two different issues. If you are truly upset about their sexual harassment, boycott the game. And going "they don't let me flame, darn communist China" is neither logical or effective. I'm doubtful China doesn't let you make fun of each other on Facebook. That is more about keeping political dissidents down. Neither are related to chat restrictions. Both are good reasons to boycott the game, sure.
Nubrac (NA)
: My Roaming Teemo Support Isn't Bannable
: and yeah the main point of contention is the actually word its become too taboo, kinda like niger(the country) is. but no1 actually says it anymore. Worlds gone too PC man And i know the argument: "children can see this, its bad." And i say this: no 10 year old today that has access to the internet will be corrupt by anything i say. You cant save the children.
> [{quoted}](name=AramLlama,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=XF8GNEJk,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-09-03T07:54:32.809+0000) > > and yeah the main point of contention is the actually word its become too taboo, kinda like niger(the country) is. but no1 actually says it anymore. Worlds gone too PC man > > And i know the argument: "children can see this, its bad." And i say this: no 10 year old today that has access to the internet will be corrupt by anything i say. > > You cant save the children. It's a hateful word and takes nearly zero effort to remove it from your vocabulary.
Lost R (NA)
: Don't excuse the weaknesses of this species. Maybe that's true for someone with a fragile will, but I don't let my attitude affect my game, _**EVER**_. I've undergone extreme mental discipline to prevent that.
> [{quoted}](name=Lost R,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EJLNkTWk,comment-id=0002000100000000,timestamp=2019-09-02T05:52:38.634+0000) > > Don't excuse the weaknesses of this species. Maybe that's true for someone with a fragile will, but I don't let my attitude affect my game, _**EVER**_. I've undergone extreme mental discipline to prevent that. Saved for posterity.
: > [{quoted}](name=Lost R,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EJLNkTWk,comment-id=0002000100000000,timestamp=2019-09-02T05:52:38.634+0000) > > I've undergone extreme mental discipline to prevent that. please, tell me more of this extreme training
> [{quoted}](name=CharDeeMcDenniz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EJLNkTWk,comment-id=00020001000000000001,timestamp=2019-09-02T12:45:58.813+0000) > > please, tell me more of this extreme training Brain kegels
: "Retalitory Report"
"I did stuff that was punishable and got reported and punished." Okay, and?
ježdovec (EUNE)
: LET'S STOP PERMABANS AND REVERT BANNED ACCOUNTS!
: > [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=o1j0fg6g,comment-id=00050000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-28T03:08:26.143+0000) > > I'll reiterate it in case there was some confusion: *We don't remove posts that criticize mods unless they break the rules.* Criticizing mods is not against the rules. We are not, however, going to permit other rules violations to remain simply because they happen to be in a thread or post that criticizes us. If you abide by the other rules of the board you can criticize us all you want. > No... allow ME to reiterate to YOU. Because your persistence is now nothing short of arrogant and harassing. THE CONTEXT OF THESE POSTS IS IRRELEVANT TO THEIR PURPOSE Need me to reiterate again? ANY POST, REGARDLESS OF CONTEXT, WHILE CRITICISNG, OR SCRUTINIZING THE ROLE OF MODS, BEING MONITORED BY MODS IS A CLEAR ABUSE OF POSITION You're clearly ignoring the message here. Allowing you to remove any content is a privilege. That privilege is abused if you are allowed to remove any discussion that attacks your position, regardless of how that attack is worded. You don't get to enforce rules to protect yourself without abusing your authority. Someone can call you every name in the book, it shouldn't matter. If it's a problem, then it's Riot's job to monitor ALL I'll reiterate for you: EVERY SINGLE POST AGAINST MODS Needs to be monitored by people higher up than the Mods. If I want to report my manager to management, I don't go to the manager in question. I go to the supervisor of that manager. Mods, on the other hand, have the abuse of position to where they are the ones responding to complaints against them. THIS IS A CLEAR ABUSE Whatever follows that discussion is irrelevant, and it isn't your business to monitor/govern these complaints. Do you understand the nature of the paradox now?
> [{quoted}](name=Glamorous Rammus,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=o1j0fg6g,comment-id=000500000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-28T05:14:59.492+0000) > > No... allow ME to reiterate to YOU. Because your persistence is now nothing short of arrogant and harassing. > THE CONTEXT OF THESE POSTS IS IRRELEVANT TO THEIR PURPOSE > > Need me to reiterate again? > > ANY POST, REGARDLESS OF CONTEXT, WHILE CRITICISNG, OR SCRUTINIZING THE ROLE OF MODS, BEING MONITORED BY MODS IS A CLEAR ABUSE OF POSITION > > You're clearly ignoring the message here. Allowing you to remove any content is a privilege. That privilege is abused if you are allowed to remove any discussion that attacks your position, regardless of how that attack is worded. You don't get to enforce rules to protect yourself without abusing your authority. Someone can call you every name in the book, it shouldn't matter. If it's a problem, then it's Riot's job to monitor ALL > I'll reiterate for you: > EVERY SINGLE POST AGAINST MODS > Needs to be monitored by people higher up than the Mods. > > If I want to report my manager to management, I don't go to the manager in question. I go to the supervisor of that manager. > Mods, on the other hand, have the abuse of position to where they are the ones responding to complaints against them. > THIS IS A CLEAR ABUSE > > Whatever follows that discussion is irrelevant, and it isn't your business to monitor/govern these complaints. > > Do you understand the nature of the paradox now? If you can't state your position without immediately falling to insults, like Black Jack in this same topic, then you aren't really presenting a good argument in the first place. Mods delete anything that focuses on personal insults. This is good. If you want to discuss the failures of moderators, do so in a clear, logical, and objective manner.
rujitra (NA)
: Rule Clarification
It's a careful line to draw. There is nothing inherently wrong with being a whale except that maybe we as a people need to spend our money on better things. It is hard to see a game cater to whales, because it means they are spending energy on things for high value customers or making things pay to win(FFRK has big whale hooks, but the game works well for non whales) It's more that the people who fill this space foster some possibly bad but necessary for profitability design. And if they didn't exist, more energy would be spent on the mid range spenders. Everyone hates lawyers, but lawyer itself isn't an insult. But you can totally make lawyer an insult through context.
Madjack01 (EUW)
: All strangers on the internet are enemies.
Lack of empathy from certain players. But also the fact that empathy is hampered by the fact you are online and can't see the other person, giving your brain a degree of removal.
: Riot treats people like there 10 years old
Confucius say: Man don't throw stone in glass house. Your name does not inspire an adult nature.
: So. League has devolved to this....
You came here, you wanted an explanation, you got one. Yes, repeating the score and pointing out every little mistake is annoying. You may not like it, but those are the facts. You can accept them or keep calling people kids and learn nothing.
: dude are you still not done wheres your proof you have a heart? im still not convinced youre human could be a bot for all i know. I already told you we're flawed thus anything we make is flawed, we've surpassed out ability to let bots deal with everything it literally sounds like the lazy easy way out. "hey how should we deal with report system" "oh idk lets have the bots handle it if they lose accounts oh well start over"
> [{quoted}](name=PYROofMANIAC,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=RUo58p5V,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-21T03:58:45.764+0000) > > dude are you still not done wheres your proof you have a heart? im still not convinced youre human could be a bot for all i know. I already told you we're flawed thus anything we make is flawed, we've surpassed out ability to let bots deal with everything it literally sounds like the lazy easy way out. "hey how should we deal with report system" "oh idk lets have the bots handle it if they lose accounts oh well start over" Because the tribunal was also flawed and extremely slow.
: Instant Feedback System is severely flawed
Kapkaboom (EUW)
: In order to meet the standards set by Riot. I must become a punching bag?
You have to understand that reacting to anger with anger only makes the other person more angry. So instead of helping, you are making the person more likely to continue attacking you verbally. So you aren't doing anything to solve the problem and prevent further attacks
: I feel like very gradually we have gotten to an "everything is offensive" area in video games
This is key here. You are conflating annoying with offensive. If someone on my team is spamming "cuck" at me, it's not offensive. It does not hurt me. But holy shit, it is like having a fly trapped in the window. >But you can just ignore them Yes, true, but there also needs to be an impetus for them to grow the hell up.
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=lll Rome lll ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EOkHjkJb,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-09T12:22:08.041+0000) > > Bro. Go drink your soymilk shakes made froms soyboy tears and sweat. Nice TRY GUY. So first step to recovery here is to remove soyboy from your vocabulary.
: The Reporting system is flawed and easily abusable (and frankly so are its advocates)
>>Nah just like yelling "Attack on Titan sucks" at TokyoCon and seeing how many fangirls pop there heads up in anger. This isn't a personal attack, but it is kind of being a dick for no reason.
: How To Not Get Banned In League
Your attitude here with everyone is pretty indicative of someone who would get punished.
açid (NA)
: Riots banning system makes zero logical sense
Hard to decipher what you are saying in the stream of consciousness, so let me just scatter shot here. Muting and then calling them something back is pretty childish and petty. No one is offended or hurt, but they are annoyed, removing the annoying people is the point. I don't know the statistic off hand that have received at least one chat restriction. It was 5%, I think? Most people reform after that.
Ulrim (NA)
: I just got banned defending myself without raging.
Yes, actually. Mute, report, move on. All "defending yourself" does is bring you down to that level. You kept the argument going instead of just tuning out.
Aladoron (EUW)
: Exposing how good the troll detection system is ---> Instant deletion from Boards
Because someone doesn't need patting on the back for ruining games. You just go "go away" and throw them out the window
: The term itself speaks to dilute bigotry as a whole to create an equitable advantage for a select group of people. It's racist to use terms like anti-Semitism, polonophobia, or antiziganism because they assume a privileged exception from other groups. It's enough to say "racism", when a group of people try to copyright injustice then they discriminate against the whole, and use their claimed disadvantage to create privilege.
> [{quoted}](name=Aletheiacracy,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Odllztb0,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-07-29T20:01:00.260+0000) > > The term itself speaks to dilute bigotry as a whole to create an equitable advantage for a select group of people. > > It's racist to use terms like anti-Semitism, polonophobia, or antiziganism because they assume a privileged exception from other groups. > > It's enough to say "racism", when a group of people try to copyright injustice then they discriminate against the whole, and use their claimed disadvantage to create privilege. https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/548/129/538.jpg
: thank you i would appreciate these tips more when i first started playing the game because that's when i was most toxic now i kinda calmed down a bit and stopped getting banned even if i still flame a bit when it's absolutely necessary but never enough to get me banned again i guess, i am crazy to think flaming a bit is normal? >It is just a game this might be a weird question but what if i think league is more than just a game tho?
> [{quoted}](name=Luther King Jr V,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=HrkugmNq,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-07-24T13:11:27.180+0000) > > thank you i would appreciate these tips more when i first started playing the game because that's when i was most toxic > now i kinda calmed down a bit and stopped getting banned even if i still flame a bit when it's absolutely necessary but never enough to get me banned again i guess, i am crazy to think flaming a bit is normal? > > this might be a weird question but what if i think league is more than just a game tho? You can like it, sure. But it is just a game. And you can't expect anyone else to treat it as more of a game. Empathy.
: do you know what annoys me?
Okay, I will give you my secrets. Empathy and remembering it is only a game. 1) Empathy. You know that bastard on the road that cuts in front of you because they are trying to get somewhere faster and generally being unsafe? Most of us think "that person is just an asshole." You don't know that. That person could be rushing to go to the bathroom or to get their kid to a doctor. You don't know why they are playing poorly, maybe they are just having a bad day. Maybe their lane opponent is better. Leave them alone. 2) Take a deep breath and repeat to yourself "It is just a game." It doesn't affect your life. You will never see that person again. And they will never see you. They may get annoyed at what you say but they will never actually take what you say to heart. Being negative pretty much never solves anything. We just think the other people is so weakwilled they will fold under our insults. No. All you did was make everyone more mad.
: The Ban system enhances toxicity; Why bans and chat restrictions don't work
There has been strong circumstantial evidence in the past that Riot is harsher on repeat offenders. It could just be that repeat offenders are more toxic though.
me op mid (EUNE)
: The banning system has no logic in it
It's not that people are saddened or hurt by your insults. It is more that people are irritated. Irritation still causes stress, so you are making an already stressful situation more stressful. It is not your job to point out percieved mistakes. Just play.
: Now that's what I call a power abuse
Is this worse than the ruthless systematic murder of an entire people? NO. So it is not a correct analogy. By using it in a public setting, you diminish the actual evil done.
: 14 only because she doesn't age for bs lore reasons she's technically 1013 but that doesn't matter i didn't post any sexually **_EXPLICIT_ ** content this is what explicit means according to google : https://imgur.com/a/szNNGWq what i posted: I want new skins if it fits a certain category i don't mind and only because op jokingly mentioned it, indifference to something equals posting porn on these boards
> [{quoted}](name=Unlucky Yordle,realm=OCE,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=MAJvf1vJ,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-07-21T12:36:28.763+0000) > > 14 only because she doesn't age for bs lore reasons she's technically 1013 but that doesn't matter i didn't post any sexually **_EXPLICIT_ > ** content > > this is what explicit means according to google : https://imgur.com/a/szNNGWq > > what i posted: I want new skins if it fits a certain category i don't mind and only because op jokingly mentioned it, indifference to something equals posting porn on these boards It is still pretty creepo
: banned for sexually explicit content?
: I wasn't retaliating. I was trying to be a team player. I thought she would be happy since i can't feed the toplane if i'm not top. Don't pretend like you can read my mind and know my intentions.
> [{quoted}](name=FenjaminBranklen,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=93GlexaR,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-19T03:20:38.508+0000) > > I wasn't retaliating. I was trying to be a team player. I thought she would be happy since i can't feed the toplane if i'm not top. Don't pretend like you can read my mind and know my intentions. Don't spit on my cupcake and call it frosting. We know you trolled. "Hr, hr, they told me I'm bad at top, so I'll leave, I'm such a good boy." We get it. You don't have to be Columbo to unravel the case. You aren't producing an impenetrable smoke screen here. You aren't Chris Angel, no one is mindfreaked. Next time just ignore them and report them instead of ruining things for the entire team.
: Never assume that age grants introspective ability. I know people of all ages who are incapable of analyzing their own actions and behaving better.
> [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1AwqYJRQ,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2019-07-18T13:28:45.838+0000) > > Never assume that age grants introspective ability. I know people of all ages who are incapable of analyzing their own actions and behaving better. Yea, but I'm going off experience here. I was a dick until like age 26 when I realized I was being an ass and should care more about other people
: You guys are soft. This isn't toxic
Give it another 5 years and you'll look back and realize you were a dick.
: Yeah, okay... Seems legit... This is why chat restrictions need to be checked manually
True, you probably should have been 14 day suspended. I guess c isnt a 0 tolerance phrase.
: all the layered out of game influences
: Why would I randomly call a person who did nothing or said nothing a "r e t a r d"? Obviously I don't just call random people that for NO REASON. If someone says something to me, or does something stupid around me that negatively effects me.... then yes, I will and have called people that. Hell, there is a rather recent example of that. This dude was walking his dog without a leash. His dog jumped up on me and was growling at me. I told him to get a f-ing leash. He talked back to me, I called him a r e t a r d. This is a true story.
> [{quoted}](name=Tedtheparasite,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mKEdRmt0,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-11T18:15:34.790+0000) > > Why would I randomly call a person who did nothing or said nothing a "r e t a r d"? Obviously I don't just call random people that for NO REASON. If someone says something to me, or does something stupid around me that negatively effects.... then yes, I will and have called people that. Hell, there is a rather recent example of that. This dude was walking his dog without a leash. His dog jumped up on me and was growling at me. I told him to get a f-ing leash. He talked back to me, I called him a r e t a r d. This is a true story. Right, but here's the other side of that. You did nothing helpful in that situation. Had you said, calmly, "hey, your dog is trouble, can you put him on a leash?" By calling him a re, all you did was add "don't listen to anything else I say" to it. Insulting someone is the least effective way to change their behavior.
: I don't understand why Riot bans who they do...
Yes, it's how we used to communicate. Like how we used to call people f** all the time. Then we realized "this isn't unacceptable, time to change". Calling someone r%%%%%ed adds to the stigma around the word r%%%%%ed and the people with disabilities. Yes, times are a changing, this is your warning.
: he leaps on anyone who he thinks slights him they do indeed slight him there's no question about it so many assholes in this game just from few bad enounters you'll get banned you have 3 chances not 100 so you can't tell these are just bad encounters or the person is "toxic"
> [{quoted}](name=Luther King Jr V,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xltNj7kR,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-08T07:31:05.778+0000) > > he leaps on anyone who he thinks slights him > That's bad. No one should do that.
RseNic (NA)
: Woke Up This Morning, Saw I Was Permabanned for No Reason!!!
You can ask them to investigate you as having been hacked.
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