: Yea sorry i enjoyed the post and i honestly feel bad for you but riot's ban hammer is fucking ridiculous and there is no chance of you getting your account back. when my brothers account got banned all that i learned was: flaming randoms is ok in riots books but the moment you flame your 5 man premade they hit you with the ban hammer... don't even know how to much a hate riots ban philosophy.
> [{quoted}](name=CyanSolution247,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2019-06-06T02:36:04.987+0000) > > Yea sorry i enjoyed the post and i honestly feel bad for you but riot's ban hammer is fucking ridiculous and there is no chance of you getting your account back. > when my brothers account got banned all that i learned was: > flaming randoms is ok in riots books but the moment you flame your 5 man premade they hit you with the ban hammer... don't even know how to much a hate riots ban philosophy. I just wanted to follow up here: So, that support ticket I submitted was actually the best thing I could have done. I didn't have a history of initiating negative chat, and the situation that landed me there was in response to others already doing so in the game. While this doesn't make it right, the Rioter was able to recognize this. So after a few lengthy emails and conversations, the penalty was reduced with a stipulation, one more strike, I'm out for good (but I won't let that happen). Oh I was also Honor level 5 last season and got all my ranked rewards so I mean, I really didn't have a history of being toxic.
: "I Was Unfairly Banned"
From personal experience, a lot of times my comments were in response to someone else. That doesn't make it an excuse, but not having a habit of being an instigator can actually possibly help you out if you go through the right avenue (support ticket) and actually engage in a constructive conversation with the supporter. While there are some accounts that do get permabanned, not all stay that way.
: > [{quoted}](name=EyesOfTheFox,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2019-06-05T21:04:50.115+0000) > > It's addressed to the community as a whole. Maybe a person I did flame sees this. Maybe they care, maybe they don't. Maybe they're celebrating. Who knows. I've already moved on and have started to better myself regardless of what you feel my intentions are. To think I haven't done otherwise, or to think I'm trying to beg for my account back, you are highly mistaken. I have already taken those steps without your permission. If you didn't really feel bad when you were flaming folks, chances are the only thing you feel bad about now is being banned. Not any destruction that your outbursts might've caused. And if you did feel bad when you were flaming folks, you wouldn't have done it. The same goes for the rest of the flamers.
> [{quoted}](name=Schoenberg,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=000a00000000,timestamp=2019-06-05T21:15:25.052+0000) > > If you didn't really feel bad when you were flaming folks, chances are the only thing you feel bad about now is being banned. Not any destruction that your outbursts might've caused. > > And if you did feel bad when you were flaming folks, you wouldn't have done it. > > The same goes for the rest of the flamers. You're right. I didn't feel bad at the time. You're also right that most people feel bad because of the investment they lost not because of the people they hurt. Sometimes it takes a lot to make people (me) realize exactly what their actions were doing. A lot of people also assume that getting banned means you are like that all the time. When really it just takes a few times to go too far, which is a few times too many. And hindsight will always be 20/20. And it did take the loss of an investment for me to actually take a step back and look at myself. And I've always had anger management problems, that's real talk, and involves personal history I'd rather not delve into. So for me, it is a struggle. Having people that want to see you do better feels good. Feels great vs all the people that just assume I'll always be an asshole, because all they know about me is that I went too far in chat sometimes and paid for it.
Sadalsa (EUW)
: That's a pretty cool name, impressive how you managed to get it.
> [{quoted}](name=Sadalsa,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-06-05T13:40:16.358+0000) > > That's a pretty cool name, impressive how you managed to get it. Thanks man! I'll miss seeing it in game, but I'm sure other people won't lol
: > [{quoted}](name=La Belle Sauvage,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2019-06-05T19:02:22.634+0000) > > This line: > > "I am truly sorry and ask if there is any way for you to offer me **a second chance to prove that _you are all deserving_ of better treatment from me,** and help me to become a better person through being positive together." > > Undoes everything you were trying to accomplish. > > Not sure if you are intentionally arrogant or not but regardless it's clear you're not sincere. I think that's your perception of it. If he were unbanned he probably wouldn't flame anymore. The same goes for most everyone who writes an apology for their behavior after being banned. But does that mean that they're not all blatant last-ditch attempts? Of course not. They still are and some of them are pretty dang annoying. But here's the thing, if they started unbanning folks who wrote an apology they'd be opening the floodgates to extra work and an extra chance. Mods/other would have to review a fair bit of these 'appeals' and decide whether or not to accept or reject them. That and the flamers would probably take their extra, last chance for granted. Edit: Ignore this. Your rather mild response triggered him. He'd probably keep flaming if he were given that last chance.
> [{quoted}](name=Schoenberg,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=000e0001,timestamp=2019-06-05T21:01:28.097+0000) > > I think that's your perception of it. > > If he were unbanned he probably wouldn't flame anymore. The same goes for most everyone who writes an apology for their behavior after being banned. But does that mean that they're not all blatant last-ditch attempts? Of course not. They still are and some of them are pretty dang annoying. > > But here's the thing, if they started unbanning folks who wrote an apology they'd be opening the floodgates to extra work and an extra chance. Mods/other would have to review a fair bit of these 'appeals' and decide whether or not to accept or reject them. That and the flamers would probably take their extra, last chance for granted. > > Edit: Ignore this. Your rather mild response triggered him. He'd probably keep flaming if he were given that last chance. Concerning your edit: Perhaps I would have, that's why I never stated I wanted my original account back. Yes I did submit a ticket for reasons I will not state, but have since told Riot to ignore that ticket. I have already almost reached honor 3 on a new account that's sub 30 because I HAVE been taking the actions to be a better player. The point of the permaban is to make you realize how toxic you were and make you feel the loss of all the money you spent. It's an investment that you don't see a return on unless you are able to access the account. This is why most people beg for accounts back. I already made a new one and moved on. They didn't permanently ban me the person from the game like they did Tyler1 a couple years ago, so that in and of itself is Riot's way of providing a quote unquote second chance. Any investment I make now, I'll have to protect. And that starts with being a better person. #TriggerProof
ZaFishbone (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=EyesOfTheFox,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=00020000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-05T12:29:00.540+0000) > > "ZaFishbone (EUNE) - about 4 hours ago > > The strongest thing depends entirely on the situation you are in. If some lone guy is beating up your girlfriend in front of you, I doubt the strongest things are calm and self-control." > > That was not a question. And in my previous statement I said defending a helpless person does not also mean you are not a pacifist. You can also approach fights that you feel you must fight in a calm and collected manner with self-control, as seen by Robert Downey Jr in the Sherlock Holmes movie. That means just use your brain first. So in a way, I did answer the question you did not ask. > > Also the post you were referring to was this: > > "Anyhow, I think the strongest thing is calm, self-control. It'll get you further in life than being impulsive will." > > That just means don't be a dick, i.e. Don't be the dude beating on people's girlfriends. > > [Cobra Kai Season 2 Spoilers Ahead] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > And you may think that Miguel made the wrong choice to not end that fight with Robby when he had the chance, otherwise he wouldn't have gotten his back broken. But Robby actually broke that dude's back and will forever be known as the dude that took it too far. But to you, it seems you would find Miguel weak because he didn't "finish him" and be known as the guy that took it too far himself. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > [End Spoilers] > > Please respond soon, as I look forward to our further discussion of us trying to figure out what the other person really means. If you're capable of being calm and self controlled when someone is hitting your girlfriend, I would question how much you really cared for her. Sometimes getting angry and ruled by emotions is part of being a human with a healthy mentality.
> [{quoted}](name=ZaFishbone,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=000200000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-05T14:06:31.107+0000) > > If you're capable of being calm and self controlled when someone is hitting your girlfriend, I would question how much you really cared for her. Sometimes getting angry and ruled by emotions is part of being a human with a healthy mentality. I did say that even Jesus flipped some tables and yelled at some Romans.
: Why would you post this? So many people believe you're actually apologizing that its sad. If you were perma banned that means you were chat banned for 10 games, 25 games and banned for 14 days prior to this and still continued to be aggressive towards others. Now you're coming on here after the 4th punishment of the exact same thing you got punished for 3 times prior and saying you're sorry? What you're really after is stated in your last paragraph, "ask if there is any way for you to offer me a second chance to prove that you are all deserving of better treatment from me". If you wanted to prove something prove it to yourself because the people you hurt in games you already hurt theyre long gone you wont ever see them again. So if you wanted to bring a positive attitude do it in game not on the board with words.
> [{quoted}](name=Light Burner,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-06-05T14:13:48.999+0000) > > Why would you post this? So many people believe you're actually apologizing that its sad. If you were perma banned that means you were chat banned for 10 games, 25 games and banned for 14 days prior to this and still continued to be aggressive towards others. Now you're coming on here after the 4th punishment of the exact same thing you got punished for 3 times prior and saying you're sorry? > > What you're really after is stated in your last paragraph, "ask if there is any way for you to offer me a second chance to prove that you are all deserving of better treatment from me". If you wanted to prove something prove it to yourself because the people you hurt in games you already hurt theyre long gone you wont ever see them again. So if you wanted to bring a positive attitude do it in game not on the board with words. It's addressed to the community as a whole. Maybe a person I did flame sees this. Maybe they care, maybe they don't. Maybe they're celebrating. Who knows. I've already moved on and have started to better myself regardless of what you feel my intentions are. To think I haven't done otherwise, or to think I'm trying to beg for my account back, you are highly mistaken. I have already taken those steps without your permission, because you're right. Put my money where my mouth is. My new account is sub 30 and I'm already almost honor 3. Thanks for responding though, because it has made me think about the way things are worded and how they can be misinterpreted. :)
: You know why they call it a perm ban because its permanent. Also post your chat log
> [{quoted}](name=Verbally Abusing,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-06-05T15:10:07.514+0000) > > You know why they call it a perm ban because its permanent. Also post your chat log I don't need to post my chat log because I'm not arguing that I wasn't a toxic asshole during some of my previous games. Most people post chat logs because they are trying to defend themselves. I'm not. I'm 100% guilty. Not proud of that but it's the truth.
: This line: "I am truly sorry and ask if there is any way for you to offer me **a second chance to prove that _you are all deserving_ of better treatment from me,** and help me to become a better person through being positive together." Undoes everything you were trying to accomplish. Not sure if you are intentionally arrogant or not but regardless it's clear you're not sincere.
> [{quoted}](name=La Belle Sauvage,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2019-06-05T19:02:22.634+0000) > > This line: > > "I am truly sorry and ask if there is any way for you to offer me **a second chance to prove that _you are all deserving_ of better treatment from me,** and help me to become a better person through being positive together." > > Undoes everything you were trying to accomplish. > > Not sure if you are intentionally arrogant or not but regardless it's clear you're not sincere. It's unfortunate you feel that way, as I have already started to take these steps without your permission. And while yes literally they did give me a few chances over the many years, I meant it moreso from a new account perspective, because that's what it took to actually make me realize that the fuck I had been doing. Thanks for taking the time to respond none the less :)
: I have made a ticket regarding my issue and provided a link to this post for additional information for support. Thank you for your suggestion!
> [{quoted}](name=itsShmerek,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FR44tY38,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-31T21:42:19.003+0000) > > I have made a ticket regarding my issue and provided a link to this post for additional information for support. > Thank you for your suggestion! Could you give us an update? Just curious how it turned out. The account I'm responding with was just permabanned yesterday because I wasn't able to control myself and I would flame my team pretty hard. Probably deserved, because I don't think I was going to want to get better had they not. Nothing hurts worse than the pain of loss, that's what Goku taught Gohan. And the pain of all the money I invested being lost hurt more than anything. So my new account I have to realize that if I decide to reinvest then I have to protect that investment at all cost, and that means no more being mean for me.
: Shoutout to Yuumi who untilted me
Kudos to you for actually listening to her! That's a rare thing in and of itself.
: Yeah, better have everyone in the game blaming eachother and lose at 15 min, right? {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
> [{quoted}](name=Big Tiddy Fox GF,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EWkrIkPJ,comment-id=0000000a,timestamp=2019-06-05T06:48:19.746+0000) > > Yeah, better have everyone in the game blaming eachother and lose at 15 min, right? {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} I actually got this account permabanned from ever being used to play because I would do exactly what you just said. I do not feel good about that.
DUDE BRO (NA)
: Why don't real cats behave that way? :( If my cat could talk it would tell me "go uninstall trash then kys"
> [{quoted}](name=DUDE BRO,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EWkrIkPJ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-04T18:38:57.888+0000) > > Why don't real cats behave that way? :( > > If my cat could talk it would tell me "go uninstall trash then kys" LOL A real cat would just wait until you're about to walk downstairs.
: That's where they're wrong though buddy. Like I said, you are your only constant. Continue to improve yourself and you will excel. You've already taken the biggest hurdle in admitting that you were at fault. You can't control other people's action but you can control your own, no matter how hard it may seem. And it will get easier as time goes. Literally the last game I played last night was my plat 3 promos. I was zed lanning against reneketon. I recalled and he shoved in lane and roamed bot and picked up a kill. Bot lane immediately flamed me for "getting out roamed, and having lower cs than him." I wanted to explain what had just happened and why he roamed while I was just getting back to mid. But I bit my tongue so to speak and just focused on catching back up. Luckily bot was able to carry with some additional help from me and jg. I could have flamed them back and that may or may not have tilted them. Well never know, but by not flaming them back I controlled myself and even if we ended up losing that game I know that I did the right thing in not saying anything back to them.
> [{quoted}](name=Impractical1,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2019-06-05T12:48:14.836+0000) > > That's where they're wrong though buddy. Like I said, you are your only constant. Continue to improve yourself and you will excel. > > You've already taken the biggest hurdle in admitting that you were at fault. You can't control other people's action but you can control your own, no matter how hard it may seem. And it will get easier as time goes. > > Literally the last game I played last night was my plat 3 promos. I was zed lanning against reneketon. I recalled and he shoved in lane and roamed bot and picked up a kill. > > Bot lane immediately flamed me for "getting out roamed, and having lower cs than him." > > I wanted to explain what had just happened and why he roamed while I was just getting back to mid. But I bit my tongue so to speak and just focused on catching back up. Luckily bot was able to carry with some additional help from me and jg. > > I could have flamed them back and that may or may not have tilted them. Well never know, but by not flaming them back I controlled myself and even if we ended up losing that game I know that I did the right thing in not saying anything back to them. Yeah solo queue really is a reactionary experience. Unless you have telepathy, there's no way to know what another person is thinking. So you almost have to know before you make a play, can I do this on my own and be successful, or will I need help. If the first answer is yes, then go for it, but if not, then I probably shouldn't assume my team knows my plan and shouldn't expect them to know to follow a lead. You really have to just look at everything around you and put yourself in the best position so that way when they answer no to that first question but still follow through, you'll be in a spot to help them. I'm trying man. And I will take your advice to the bank for sure.
ZaFishbone (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=EyesOfTheFox,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=000200000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-05T11:56:02.727+0000) > > Defending a helpless person does not mean you are not a pacifist. Pacifists don't go around looking for fights. They don't feel the need to engage in pointless fights either. You are trying to relate someone in real life trauma to some shit someone said on a computer. The two are NOT the same. Jesus was a pacifist but even he flipped some tables and yelled at some Romans once (in defense of his religion because he was angry at the corruption in the Church in Rome at the time). > > Fighting someone with words on the internet because they bruised your ego, does not make you strong. It actually proves how weak you are. > > And again...the point is, to not be the person beating on your girlfriend in the first place. Think about this, if that dude actually believed he was supposed to be the person that doesn't beat on women, he wouldn't have started beating her up, and we wouldn't even be having this conversation. You're trying to relate the defending of someone else that is in a helpless situation to the defending yourself in an online video game chat. One is a selfless act, the other is a selfish act. What on earth made you start with the whole "not to be the guy beating your gf" bit? Did you completely miss out on what we were talking about? I gave the "standing around while someone beats ur gf" question as an example. The real question was: you said that being peaceful always leads to better results, does that even apply when someone is getting hurt in front of you RIGHT THEN AND THERE? Pls stop going of topic or on tangents, just answer that question.
> [{quoted}](name=ZaFishbone,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=0002000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-05T12:21:32.965+0000) > > What on earth made you start with the whole "not to be the guy beating your gf" bit? Did you completely miss out on what we were talking about? I gave the "standing around while someone beats ur gf" question as an example. The real question was: you said that being peaceful always leads to better results, does that even apply when someone is getting hurt in front of you RIGHT THEN AND THERE? Pls stop going of topic or on tangents, just answer that question. "ZaFishbone (EUNE) - about 4 hours ago The strongest thing depends entirely on the situation you are in. If some lone guy is beating up your girlfriend in front of you, I doubt the strongest things are calm and self-control." That was not a question. And in my previous statement I said defending a helpless person does not also mean you are not a pacifist. You can also approach fights that you feel you must fight in a calm and collected manner with self-control, as seen by Robert Downey Jr in the Sherlock Holmes movie. That means just use your brain first. So in a way, I did answer the question you did not ask. Also the post you were referring to was this: "Anyhow, I think the strongest thing is calm, self-control. It'll get you further in life than being impulsive will." That just means don't be a dick, i.e. Don't be the dude beating on people's girlfriends. [Cobra Kai Season 2 Spoilers Ahead] --------------------------------------------------------------------- And you may think that Miguel made the wrong choice to not end that fight with Robby when he had the chance, otherwise he wouldn't have gotten his back broken. But Robby actually broke that dude's back and will forever be known as the dude that took it too far. But to you, it seems you would find Miguel weak because he didn't "finish him" and be known as the guy that took it too far himself. --------------------------------------------------------------------- [End Spoilers] Please respond soon, as I look forward to our further discussion of us trying to figure out what the other person really means.
Cevrad (NA)
: Nope, they will not unban accounts, even if you have no additional history and were wrongly banned for telling toxic people to shut the F** up. Had an account banned 4 years ago no and it won't ever see the light of day again with approx 2 grand in skins on it.
> [{quoted}](name=Cevrad,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-06-05T12:16:15.641+0000) > > Nope, they will not unban accounts, even if you have no additional history and were wrongly banned for telling toxic people to shut the F** up. Had an account banned 4 years ago no and it won't ever see the light of day again with approx 2 grand in skins on it. Yeah, I think that's why Riot doesn't give them back. The loss of all the money wasted will always hurt more than not being able to use your old summoner name.
: I will say that this is one the first board posts I've made, been playing league on and off since 2011. I was hardstuck gold for the majority of this season and I never understood why I wasn't improving until I actually looked at myself. I would give first blood or a teammate would make a mistake and I would low-key flame them. Nothing along the lines of total toxicity but just enough to where I see that I myself probably tilted my own teammates. A Mia ping when their laner roams and ganks my lane or a "thanks for not following them and letting me get 2v1ed", etc. Stuff like that. I don't know when it happened exactly but I stopped myself. When teammates die I let them know that it's ok. That it's just a death or two. Or I point out that since their Jung ganked bot, ours secured his entire top side jg, or rift herald, or something along those lines. Even if I'm getting flamed for something I simply just don't type anything back. I look at the map, objectives, different things like that and try to figure out what "I" need to do. And since then I've been able to climb up to plat 3. I guess the point I'm trying to say is to move on and worry about yourself. Because you are the only constant in your games. Yeah you will feed every now and then or a teammate will feed every now and then, but just let it go. Continue to move on and continue to improve yourself both in the game and outside. You have a really tough game or get flamed for something you did, take a 5-10 minute break before queing up again. Go smoke a cigarette, get a snack, watch a YouTube video, literally anything to get your mind off of what just happened and I promise it will help you in the long run.
> [{quoted}](name=Impractical1,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-06-05T12:07:14.135+0000) > > I will say that this is the first board post I've made, been playing league on and off since 2011. > > I was hardstuck gold for the majority of this season and I never understood why I wasn't improving until I actually looked at myself. > > I would give first blood or a teammate would make a mistake and I would low-key flame them. Nothing along the lines of total toxicity but just enough to where I see that I myself probably tilted my own teammates. > > A Mia ping when their laner roams and ganks my lane or a "thanks for not following them and letting me get 2v1ed", etc. Stuff like that. > > I don't know when it happened exactly but I stopped myself. When teammates die I let them know that it's ok. That it's just a death or two. Or I point out that since their Jung ganked bot, ours secured his entire top side jg, or rift herald, or something along those lines. > > Even if I'm getting flamed for something I simply just don't type anything back. I look at the map, objectives, different things like that and try to figure out what "I" need to do. > > And since then I've been able to climb up to plat 3. I guess the point I'm trying to say is to move on and worry about yourself. Because you are the only constant in your games. Yeah you will feed every now and then or a teammate will feed every now and then, but just let it go. Continue to move on and continue to improve yourself both in the game and outside. > > You have a really tough game or get flamed for something you did, take a 5-10 minute break before queing up again. Go smoke a cigarette, get a snack, watch a YouTube video, literally anything to get your mind off of what just happened and I promise it will help you in the long run. Yeah, I guess it started because I felt like they were right ya know. That all I'll ever be is trash stuck in elo hell with them for all eternity, so I auditioned for the role and excelled at it.
: What a sore loser lol just make a new account.
> [{quoted}](name=hihhihihihi1212,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-06-05T12:08:27.317+0000) > > What a sore loser lol just make a new account. I've had one brah. And if trying to be a better person makes me a loser, then I'm a winner.
ZaFishbone (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=EyesOfTheFox,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=0002000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-05T09:31:12.802+0000) > > I think the point is to not be the guy beating up your girlfriend. So standing around when someone else is doing it is just fine? "sorry honey, can't help you, I'm a pacifist, you see"
> [{quoted}](name=ZaFishbone,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=00020000000000010000,timestamp=2019-06-05T11:23:02.241+0000) > > So standing around when someone else is doing it is just fine? "sorry honey, can't help you, I'm a pacifist, you see" Defending a helpless person does not mean you are not a pacifist. Pacifists don't go around looking for fights. They don't feel the need to engage in pointless fights either. You are trying to relate someone in real life trauma to some shit someone said on a computer. The two are NOT the same. Jesus was a pacifist but even he flipped some tables and yelled at some Romans once (in defense of his religion because he was angry at the corruption in the Church in Rome at the time). Fighting someone with words on the internet because they bruised your ego, does not make you strong. It actually proves how weak you are. And again...the point is, to not be the person beating on your girlfriend in the first place. Think about this, if that dude actually believed he was supposed to be the person that doesn't beat on women, he wouldn't have started beating her up, and we wouldn't even be having this conversation. You're trying to relate the defending of someone else that is in a helpless situation to the defending yourself in an online video game chat. One is a selfless act, the other is a selfish act.
: Permaban
My first 2 week ban was for hate speech. Which was the only time I ever did it, and it was in post game lobby, but after I was like....oh....that wasn't good. A few months later, I called some people dumb, and assholes, and down came the Poppy hammer with the permanent ban. But I did it to myself so all I can do next is be better on my new account. It's a three strikes you're out deal with Riot. First out is chat restriction, which I got about three years ago. The next out is a two week ban, which I got a couple months ago. The third out is a permanent ban, which I just got yesterday. Riot doesn't have any control over the report system. It's all automated and up to the players to report you. With that said, on my new account if someone starts flaming me because I miss a cs and start taking them from me, or don't follow them into the jungle without vision, or can't read their mind, or play too aggressive...or just any flame they send my way in general, If I feel they are just being assholes, I report them, because that's what they did to me. Eventually everyone toxic will be permanently banned, start a new account, maybe learn our lesson, maybe not, maybe get banned again, who knows. The permanent ban is to teach you a lesson. If you want to be toxic, don't spend money on the game, because that's what you really lost when they took it away from you. All the things you paid for that are yours because you paid for them, aren't really yours. When Riot takes that away, it's supposed to hurt. The main reason most people complain about being permanently banned is because that's money they wasted and will never get back. So next go around if you make investments in the game, you gotta protect those investments. I tilt pretty easy so the new account I don't really say much, unless it's to make a joke or ask if the team wants to do something. [EDIT: This isn't entirely true, I have said, "Well I do have a (insert champion name here) for support." so I'm still working on it, but it's not the, "My supports fucking stupid can't do shit wont get lane pressure" you know the lines.] [EDIT: Side note... after marksmen were nerfed into oblivion last year that's when I really became the most toxic I've ever been. Not excusing my behavior just giving insight into my mind. People at low elo have such high expectations for champions that legit cannot win on their own anymore like every other role in the game. I'm not saying you can't carry, but it now takes at LEAST 3 items, maybe 4, as well as a support that you have a telepathic connection with, but a top laner with a phage and corrupting potion can murder a marksman that has 1 full item, most supports can solo kill a marksman, pretty much everything in the game is designed to destroy a marksman, but we were only made for dps. In fact marksmen are so bad right now the only viable options are ones with high range, or massive aoe wave clear, or high spell burst damage, or hard cc or combination thereof. Marksmen that don't get played are left on the bench not becaues they have no escapes, but because they don't have the aforementioned abilities. In all honesty most mages can destroy marksmen bot now but people are afraid to not have dps on the team. But if there are no tanks being played, you don't need dps, so you can legit run an assassin or mage bot lane and smash if their team consists of no tanky champions be it top or support or jungle. This is why marksmen never went mid, because mages just trash them and marksmen don't have the kits that allow them to match. At low elo, because no one is good, if the slightest snowball happens on any champion the game is over, that's how I feel, opinions, grains of salt and whatnot.] The thing is, everyone that plays this game thinks they know everything about everything about the game, so if you mess up in the slightest it's all your fault for everything. I know this because not only have I experienced this, I have done it myself on occasion, and now, all that time and money invested into my first account is gone. So all I can do with this account now, is share my experience and how I was toxic and what it got me. Some people don't realize that even after they unbanned Tyler1 they didn't give him his original account back, although they did make him a part of the partner program so I guess it didn't matter that he lost all his original content he paid for cause now he gets it all for free. So I guess that doesn't really apply here :/ [EDIT: It actually does apply here because I'm sure if he fucks up again he's gone and he will NEVER get another chance after that (scary). So that's his investment now.] The thing is though as long as you just don't type anything you'll be good [EDIT: As long as you are actually trying to play the game like a smart person, because running it down, going afk, or telling the enemy where your jgl is, can still be and probably will be reported.]. Not saying if you're a normal and calm and upbeat happy go lucky person not to talk, but if you do have toxic tendencies, just don't type. Make your chat window as small as possible. If you just want an audience to agree with your flame, start a twitch channel so you can say it to the viewers and not the players (like Tyler1 does). I did put in a support ticket to Riot, but I kind of already know that there's no way they give back all the things I paid for in the game. That's my punishment. That's the purpose of the permanent ban. To make you go...oh....oooohh....what have I done....why did I do that....oh no....oh............no............
d00mface (EUW)
: If you could take one object from the world of Runeterra to have what would you take?
ZaFishbone (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Schoenberg,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-06-05T05:08:54.951+0000) > > It'd be pretty funny to see a society where no one makes amends for aggression bc they think it makes them look stronger. > > Anyhow, I think the strongest thing is calm, self-control. It'll get you further in life than being impulsive will. The strongest thing depends entirely on the situation you are in. If some lone guy is beating up your girlfriend in front of you, I doubt the strongest things are calm and self-control.
> [{quoted}](name=ZaFishbone,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-06-05T08:02:39.273+0000) > > The strongest thing depends entirely on the situation you are in. If some lone guy is beating up your girlfriend in front of you, I doubt the strongest things are calm and self-control. I think the point is to not be the guy beating up your girlfriend.
Rioter Comments
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: May 17
While I enjoy the design of Yuumi, I do believe her gameplay is unhealthy for League. Bad Yuumi players will basically just afk making bot lane feel lile a 1 v 2. Good Yuumi players will abuse the fact that she can't be targeted. She also seems to gain the special abilities of champions she's attached to, ie turning invisible with Twitch. Being able to hop on Valor with Quinn. Just all around bullshit that has no real counter play. She can basically infinitely shield her team. Just curious who/how/why anyone at Riot was like, "This will be good for the state of the game!"
Qizo (NA)
: I like the idea but I think it might not be worth with diluting the different ques, plus rotating game mode poro king can kind of fill that, without the bans though.
I don't feel like it would dilute the queue too much. I mean look at summoners rift (1 map) with it's 3 different game modes. Why cannot the bridge (1 map) receive the same treatment (currently only 1 mode). The community is obviously split. There are times when I would love the option to get into a more competitive bridge match with champ selection and bans. There's no reason they can't have several ways to play one map. There are also times when I want the full random experience. The problem with Riot, for better or worse, is that they don't like giving people options. They want people to play the modes they want them to play, so giving people choices doesn't seem to be on their list of priorities. Too many choices can be bad. I think having a blind draft queue for the bridge along side the all random queue would actually be healthy for the game and give people that don't want to play a 40 minute rift match the opportunity to pick their champ in a competitive but much shorter match that IS NOT nexus blitz. People seem to be having trouble separating the mode (aram) from the map, I think Riot suffers from this way of thinking too.
: Riot recently made the best addition ARAM ever got just to remove it mere days later...
Would be interesting to see an alternate ARAM mode that is just AM without the AR. Still keeping the full random mode but having an alternate mode for people that want picks and bans. SR has blind pick and draft pick. Why not something similar for BB also~
: Can We Discuss What Is Ruining Game Experience
Perhaps a message on the log in screen that just says, "Thou shall not be toxic".
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=EyesOfTheFox,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ZNXqyVAp,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-15T19:01:02.809+0000) > > Ashe visual update when? Why would you think she needs an update?
To closer resemble her appearance in the comic from Marvel as that is Riot's official lore for Ashe now. Her outfit and appearance could be updated to reflect the image they have presented us with in the comics. She does currently feel like a different person in the game than she does in the book~ But that could just be me that feels that way~ I also feel that they may actually do this sometime after the full story is released as I asked a similar question on an earlier post about a visual update, and a Rioter commented on it then deleted their comment before I had a chance to read it. Could have contained spoilers they weren't ready to drop yet.
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: Reminder: Ashe Warmother - Comic preorder and purchase/reading options
AthenaXI (NA)
: Does it even matter? Rather AFK for real then.
Happened to me a couple weeks ago. Power surge caused my modem to reset. I carried that game. And when I was able to rejoin we won. I got 0 LP, feels good man.
Oxóssi (NA)
: I just got an unraked Jungler in my Silver Promo, He averages 10+ deaths per match
Silver really isn't much different from Bronze and Gold. So this vent sounds a lot like every game at that elo.
: Popular opinion: don’t play league if you’re not in the mood for league
This should hold true for anything in life. If you aren't in the mood, or aren't feeling it, it's ok to not do it/find something different to do.
: Item Shop Cleanup
Removing {{item:3075}} would be nice. No real counterplay. You don't even have to attack the enemy to do damage to them. Basically not fun to play against and it creates a way for an already naturally tanky enemy to just basically afk and still murder the person attacking them. Also removing items that aren't really that great because of damage inflation, such as {{item:1036}}. No reason this should still exist with damage as high as it is. Just sell the finished product of whatever a longsword would normally build into. Why does every item need to build out of a miliion tiny items that really won't help you? Perhaps even a world where there are no tiny components and only finished items can be purchased~
Sęraph (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Elite4Runner,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=1y0dWxeu,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-03T15:49:19.966+0000) > > Almost like they are supposed to be a team wearing a uniform > > {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}} They have the EXACT SAME background. They cut and paste the champions and slapped them on the background.
You know the same backgrounds aren't meant for the big client splash, they are meant for the loading screen banners going into game, So you probably won't even notice once the character is actually cropped to fit in a vertical rectangle. And Riot normally doesn't even take the time to create individual art for those and just crop the original splash art with like half an arm from another champion, a random foot, and who even knows wtf half the shit is in those Odyssey skin loading banners. The faces are different enough. You can still tell what champion it is. I dunno. I think people always have a vision in their head, and if that vision doesn't come to fruition or another vision is put in front of them, their brain can't handle the fact that it wasn't the same as they imagined.
Sęraph (NA)
: Should the Invictus splash arts be done by a new artist?
Don't bring splash artists into a fight that ins't their fault. Most character/skin designs are done by a completely different person and the actual in game models done by yet another person. Then the splash artist is given character model reference to work from for the splash art. So it really comes down to how the initial concepts were designed. Perhaps they were designed like that for a reason, being on the same winning team, being similar as so one champion design does not overshadow another in appearance, solidifying their unity as one team. As someone that does art for marketing, you would also be surprised how much of what you create is the direction of other people. Bet this dude had people in his ear the whole time telling him to make sure to include certain things, etc. Probably didn't have the bandwidth (resources/time) to spend on a background so who cares if they are all the same on the loading banner, it's better than just clumping all the champs super close and only being able to crop in a portion for the loading screen banner (which is super lazy and something Riot has normally always done with multi skin splashes). Telling someone you think all Van Gogh paintings look alike, doesn't make Van Gogh paintings bad. Nor does it make them necessarily good. Art is subjective. Are you allowed to think the IG characters all look the same, yes. Does it make that statement factual? Partially. Does it automatically warrant a discredit of the artist? No. (Same could be said for Bob Ross, all his trees look the same, but he's a GOAT.)
Bertle (NA)
: Dear Riot, please keep Butchers Bridge permanent
Yeah no offense to Riot and whoever has a hard on for frozen tundra stuff, but [the current map] is fucking bland and drab and just not fun to look at. I welcome a more colorful landscape. Some people make the argument that "oh I don't like pirate stuff so, no." but I have ALWAYS hated how bleh the current aram map is.
: Pinpointing reasons why damage feels high @Riot
I think Phreak brings up some balancing issues in his base stats videos. He basically mentions that there are some champions that were made to be tanks but that non tanks actually have better tank scaling because of kits and such. Anivia gets more armor and MR than Braum throughout the game. Think about that... Yeah there are excuses as to why a non tank would have better tank scaling than a tank, but when Braum ends up getting shit on and you're still trying to figure out why you can't get Anivia down to pop that passive, base stats. Base stats and scalings are so fucked in this game that there's not really a clear way to know how much damage someone NOT building damage can actually do. Even champions within the same class can be drastically different in how they scale. Personally I don't see the whole, "Tanks aren't good right now" complaints of the meta, when I can guarantee you if the enemy team has more tanks than your team, you will lose. Especially if those enemies don't have to build damage to be able to murder you. In my opinion, the harder you are to kill, the less damage you should do.
iiGazeii (NA)
: Why do people hate playing support?
I'd say people hate support because, along with bot, support requires the most teamwork/synergy over all the other roles in solo q. I'm a bot lane player and if the support has their own agenda or idea of playing the game that isn't in line with mine or they pick a bad matchup, it's gonna be a rough game. A lot of supports won't ping or anything before diving across half the screen out of my range, or they just stand behind me the whole time and don't actually create a presence in lane, which gets me pushed into, which loses our tower (giving plates over is not good and the game no longer supports "just sit under tower" play styles). However, I love getting autofilled to support because I just pick Morgana (almost mastery 7 with less than 25% of the points it took me to get that on a marksman) then I imagine what I would want my support to normally do when I play marksmen and just do that, and it's too easy. Support is just too easy to play. I need more of a challenge. That's why I subject myself to the marksmen role. I think that's just the nature of the bottom side of the map though. 5 random people on 1 team, doable. 2 random people in 1 lane, takes effort, and if one colaner feels the other isn't carrying their weight sparks will fly. I see on the boards all the time, "Why is my bot lane so toxic?", it's because unlike every other position on the map we are forced to work in tandem with some rando for the first 10 minutes or so of the game, while every other role just gets to do what they want without regard for thinking about how it will affect the other person in their lane, because well, there isn't one. So just the mental that is necessary bot lane is far greater just because we are forced into interacting with a teammate before the other 3/5ths of the team join in team fights around mid game. Duo lanes just require the processing of more information. Gotta keep track of 3 other champion cool downs and positions. Have to have some foresight and be able to predict things that solo laners don't have to worry about.
CytheGuy (NA)
: Kayle is dominating lanes right now for ONE REASON
Kleptomancy needs to go period. No one uses it except the champions that can abuse it to cover their weak lane phase (Kayle/Ezreal/Gangplank). It is so good on those champions that it is honestly broken and I think that's a huge design flaw. There's a reason half the items it drops were removed from the game a long time ago (only to be added back here). Not to mention free gold for doing what you would normally do anyway.
: New ways to earn Prestige Points
I don't think the effort/money needed to dump into this game to get a prestige skin is worth it, especially when most of the original skins they are based on are honestly better looking.
: This "woof woof bark" and "meow meow meow" stuff is stupid
Ahh I see you have finally unlocked Riot's new "Help me not get banned!" feature. New safety net put in place to help keep you in the game while still letting your teammates know you're there by giving a friendly "mew". GLHF Summoner!
: Phreak on Champion Base Stats
I think Phreak is on to something. The less rng that exists via random stat changes within classes, the more parity and balance you can bring to the game. Classes should be easily defined. Champions would be based more around the quality of their kits and not stats to help band-aid how broken their kit actually is. Counter picks would mean more based on what the champion can actually do and not 'oh let's pick champ X in pro play cause his numbers are busted even if the kit is trash'. This could also make more champions actually playable. Will be interesting to see where the balance team takes the game now that they've shuffled things around a bit with personnel.
Falrein (EUW)
: April Fools theories
Xayah's real name is Tammy.
Unix (NA)
: All of the cat skins are just champions in cat onsies; All of the dog skins are actual dogs.
I'm pretty sure they should have just called them "Cat Pajama [champion]" skins.
Meddler (NA)
: Understood and agreed. Will share more whenever we've got something concrete to share.
I think more class/role specific items could be healthy for the game.
BradNo (NA)
: I called my mid laner "Autistic" and he/she left the game because of it.
Best bet is to just become a streamer, then you can say whatever you want out loud and not be punished and there's also a visual record of the person you are calling out so they are also being publicly shamed because the world can see their actions now.
BradNo (NA)
: I called my mid laner "Autistic" and he/she left the game because of it.
I don't blame you man. This game makes me want to call people all kinds of stupidly inappropriate things.
: Extremely Immature players since a week ago - something changed
I wish some of my teams would surrender earlier. Just take the loss and move on brah. But nope. Get trapped. Can't leave. Can't say shit. Can't AFK. Stuck. Then it makes me just hate people and this game. Then there's people like you who cry about people wanting to move on, let me tell you something, if someone has initiated the surrender vote, chances are they aren't going to be very useful, so by not surrendering you are trapping people in games and that is not cool. You wanna win so bad, get out of the losing game asap. Oh but that one dude that doesn't surrender can carry the whole team! Yeah right lol. Good luck with that.
: Man, and here I was hoping all the kiddies moved over to Fortnite.
: Yep I agree . I played a game yesterday that I 2v1 Irelia and Master Yi at toplvl 2 an!d killed them both and my hp was 50% (too much dmg for Olaf). I builded tank and I do no dmg to them in 20 min and I can't def my self since annie just R to kill me . LoL def and dmg is so high
Well Olaf isn't meant to be a front line tank....so....building too much defense on him actually makes him worse.
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