Raoul (EUW)
: Noone complains because they sexualised one female character. People are sick of nearly EVERY humanoid female Character being oversexualised!
> [{quoted}](name=Raoul,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E3yLIk4T,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-07T17:21:00.508+0000) > > Noone complains because they sexualised one female character. > > People are sick of nearly EVERY humanoid female Character being oversexualised! Illaoi is so oversexualised
Oto (EUNE)
: Jhin is unhealthy
Jhin is unhealthy, I mean look at his form, he has to not be eating enough!
Phazanor (NA)
: Tahm is greed, not gluttony. Gluttony is only linked to his current appearance (the one he assumed for Tahm Kench the human). Greed defines him as a whole.
Greed envy and gluttony are all similar Envy is wanting what others have Gluttony is engorging on food/possessions Greed is mostly connected with money/personal gain In that way I’d say tahm associates with gluttony, while gangplank is greed
GreenLore (EUW)
: Well Luxs newest skin came out over a year after her previous skin.
That’s shorter than many champions get their next skin. And Lux’s previous skin was an ultimate skin, which effectively allowed you to switch skins over the course of the game.
wildfox99 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=notice me Sin pi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rsBTQhEo,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-02-27T12:52:37.753+0000) > > yasuo is definitely in need of buff; give him 100% armor pen for 30 seconds everytime he uses E on a minion what he needs is a 150% armor penetration,so more they stack armor more you deal damage ({{champion:33}})
Yes, and if they don’t have any bonus armor, you deal 150% damage to them Also yasuo gets 15% evasion on every auto attack because the wind should deflect enemy attacks sometimes
Kei143 (NA)
: toxicity between reigons is something I'm interested in. How different features change the behavior upon release and over time. I'd love to see they types of surveys they did for behavior and the results for them. Toxicity between different ELOs. Just a few to name.
From personal experience, LAN is by far the worst. Then China EUNE NA EUW KR Can’t say anything for the South American and Ionia/Garena servers
: i mean xin and jax aren't actually pulling any spinner moves, they are just spinning their weapon around.
Xin does what is akin to a leg sweep, but with his spear, spinning. Jax’s release of his counter strike has him spin.
: Woah a 50% win rate GEEZ SO UNBALANCED RIOTO PLEASEEEEE god man swains win rate is too lowwwwwwwww 50% CHRIST you sound like a sona main.
No, it’s 48%, which is close to the worst in his role. I showed my stats to show that I’ve both won and lost with him, so it’s not that unplayable. Although you strike me immediately as childish so I doubt any of this will get to you.
: That's just two sports. Not to mention that it's literally part of those sports' culture to shit-talk ruthlessly. And we weren't talking about those sports were we? The person I replied to specifically cited basketball and football. I'm talking about sports like Soccer/Futbol, Rugby, Basketball, American Football, etc. And within casual league of legends you're not dealing with a culture like MMA or Hockey. You're dealing with a culture like that of regular society. People in regular society don't like seeing unnecessary shit-talk so you see it get reported lots here.
you just talked yourself into a corner. What is dictating that League doesn't have a culture like that of Hockey or MMA? It certainly feels like it does.
Rioter Comments
: It does, but it also gets punished. There are lines that shouldn't be crossed. Talking smack about a specific play qualifies as fine, but cross the line into demeaning the person themselves and you get the boot.
No, it doesn’t get punished. MMA and Hockey are notorious for ruthless shit-talking that never gets regulated.
: GG ez at the end of a 55 minute game feels like shit.
Yes, it’s reportable, but if you’re mood is changed by two words said by someone you’ll never see again... You need to stop being so vulnerable. I wonder how these people take real life hardships.
Azadethe (NA)
: Which means 90% of champs will win the exchange merely by getting close to her and knowing that she's not nearly as dangerous.
She still has a retardedly strong “go away” spell called E. In a 1v1 it’s one of the strongest escapes in the game
: it's not high though.... 1/3 of the healthbar of a defenceless champion by blowing everything in their kit is actually quite low, especially given that doing so meant not providing anything else to their team like cc or some other utility (since she's going to cancel her own cc effect to deal damage). Like by comparison, dr mundo does about 25% current health with just his cleaver on a lower base cd and he's not even considered viable at the pro scene. Like if you can show me evidence of this tank zoe who relies on her base damage output to be relevant then sure I'll hand you that 6th point, but until then it looks like you're just grasping. and also if she avoids like a skarner walking up to where she was standing with her ult.... maybe you haven't played with much zoe, but you should probably know that there's a second part to her ult that's going to take her back and get her killed. ulting to avoid engage doesn't work as self peel, unless your opponent mysteriously decides to disengage 1 second into their engage
: > [{quoted}](name=Faceroll Tactics,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ejT2cBK3,comment-id=00100002,timestamp=2018-01-30T17:43:09.952+0000) > > Kat is also melee, has less base health, less utility, less siege capability, less range on all of her abilities, and has no cc whatsoever. Did he really just compare Zoe to Kat?!?!
I think so.
Rexxiee (NA)
: Kat can do this in aoe lol. Stop mindlessly bitching about zoe.
Kat is also melee, has less base health, less utility, less siege capability, less range on all of her abilities, and has no cc whatsoever.
: Annie lore incoming
Looks like Nami lore. (Throwback to Shen sword meaning Janna skin joke of a pr failure)
: > [{quoted}](name=Faceroll Tactics,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ewkE9oKg,comment-id=00030001000000010000,timestamp=2018-01-28T22:24:15.864+0000) > > No. > She can’t. > If they are even she will lose because her build is 1500 gold more expensive and provides less stats. She will duel tanks late game because she can sustain through their damage, which is made easier by the resists that she built. If Fiora has Black Cleaver, she can also shred their armor, so the physical portion from her damage is higher, and she lifesteals even more. And no matter how tanky they are, they still take a lot of damage from the vitals. Tanks can't duel Fiora late game because she simply shreds them, and outsustain them (even with Grievous Wounds). The problem with Fiora early game is that she doesn't have enough of the stats she need to duel tanks, so they win against Fiora simply because they stat check her.
That’s only when everyone has their full build, until then fiora will simply get out statted because her build is too expensive, and tanks have an obnoxious 1000 gold item that negates one of her core strengths.
: > [{quoted}](name=SpookyNeedle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ewkE9oKg,comment-id=000300010000,timestamp=2018-01-28T18:40:53.936+0000) > > Even she can’t 1v1 some tanks right now, especially with bramble She can, late game, when she has enough of all stats she needs to fight tanks (AD, lifesteal, resistances, etc). The problem is early game, where tanks can just build Bramble Vest and outtrade her because she can't sustain through their damage.
No. She can’t. If they are even she will lose because her build is 1500 gold more expensive and provides less stats.
: If you die to a tank, you got outplayed.
Hashinshin said that Ornn W+Auto does 900 damage to a 3000 health enemy before resists. I hate sharing his viewpoint.
: This is the best change Riot has made in years.
Saw an analyst say this and I agreed with it. This only affects Annie, Pantheon, and Cassiopeia. And maybe a few others. Every other champion that obnoxiously pokes will take aggro anyway (Quinn and Teemo, to point fingers) or they will only use their point and click for their all in (Brand) It’s not as massive as people may say it is, but it’s definitely a good change.
: so i guess you just answered your own question
Being useful because you contribute to the game > being useful because you contribute to the adc.
: Are you implying the other 4 aren't useful?
At the current moment, Support is useful because it enables the adc, jungle is useful because it can gank for the adc, mid is useful because it can roam for the adc, and top is not really useful.
: but what about your adc?
What about the other four players on each team that want to be useful too?
: I agree with your listed bruisers, but what's so bad about{{champion:48}}? I mean I'm ~~silver 5~~ unranked and don't own Trundle (atm), so I know almost nothing about trundle being in/out of the meta.
: "The boards are a small minority of the community who just want to complain."
Sample sizes reflect the community somewhat effectively The only thing we have in common is that we all type in the same web address and play the same video game And yet there’s plenty of things the majority of us all agree on
Rioter Comments
Terozu (NA)
: _cough_ dodge it_cough_
That’s the same thing as saying, “you were in the wrong spot”
Sqkerg (NA)
: If people play the game, they get an opinion. Period. If a decision affects you, then you are entitled to speak up about said decision.
My opinion is that the earth is flat and my opinion is also that the majority of people also think it is flat
: 4th option: you realize that normals have less shitty people in them and dealing with the overwhelming ranked tox isn't worth a loading screen border and a skin months later
: Dude. Ghostcrawler plan is simple. Look at wow and you have the answer. Change lol into casual fiesta, so new/bad/young players can oneshot enemy without doing much etc. This is why dmg creep was inceasing. People who saw wow fall see that the same scope of changes is being applied since gc joined riot.
GC actually changed the game to favor Hunters, Mages, etc. while making melee the definition of unfun. So yea, that’s what is happening now.
: "Even a chimp could" Well that's saying alot about the silver-bronze playerbase cuz they literally never do this. Boys just play team deathmatch.
My theory is that if you’re in bronze you either don’t want to get better, you don’t care, or you think you do, but you don’t.
: TIL 140%<130%.
> [{quoted}](name=Faceroll Tactics,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ncacfwz9,comment-id=001000000000,timestamp=2018-01-11T23:35:38.433+0000) > > if I’m trying to make you realize I agree with you, but maybe the boards have changed you to think every statement is a complete objection.
Raiyza (NA)
: Riiiiiiiight, because that 1% is buying millions of skins and such.
I’d believe it. Have the checked how much money streamers And esports players both spend AND bring into the company?
Raiyza (NA)
: You should really take a business class. Where do you think most of Riots revenue comes from?
Whales. Esports players. Streamers. Aka the 1%
Kursor (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Faceroll Tactics,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ncacfwz9,comment-id=001000000000,timestamp=2018-01-11T23:35:38.433+0000) > > Umm... yea? Every buff is a buff to their late game if they end up with more of a stat than they had before? Except she has less than before? She lost her passive scaling attack speed from leveling up - it's all loaded into the Q now.
> [{quoted}](name=Faceroll Tactics,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ncacfwz9,comment-id=001000000000,timestamp=2018-01-11T23:35:38.433+0000) > > if they end up with more of a stat than they had before?
: People on here just see 1 stat change and always assume it's a buff to their late game.
Umm... yea? Every buff is a buff to their late game if they end up with more of a stat than they had before?
: So Yi should become impossible for mages to do anything about? His movement speed, Q, and W are already enough to dodge/ignore most things and then his Ult means he can straight up ignore the slows (meaning he can save Q and regular dodging for the hard cc). I think the buffs should be tailored individually for melee champions because they are just so varied. I do support the reduction or removal of movement speed on Zeal items though (with the possible exception of PD as a niche).
He already has a boosted movespeed compared to other melees, him Hecarim and pantheon are at the top
: And completely ignore the other 99%? Sorry, but I have to disagree with you here.
This isn’t my stance. But companies go where the money is, that’s just how it’s always gonna be
Rioter Comments
Raiyza (NA)
: You want to hear something funny? A business should never cater to 1% of their customers. The other 99% is where the money comes from.
Not true. League is free to play, so if 1% spends 99% of the money they should be catered to
: I agree with you ... I used to enjoy this game honestly , until I came here and saw how everyone kept blaming supports and ardent and all problems , they made me feel guilty for buying Ardent , ardent is nerfed and now it's the adc's fault , cmon , when I try to say my opinion , I get downvoted and attacked with comments , once I just said , bot lane isn't the only problem , like once , I was a 13/0 Xayah but still lost the match because the enemy Zed mid and Vi Top were fed ( Vi who is a bruiser which is supposed to be the worst class ) , they say top lane is useless while top lane is the most wanted role that most many people fight for it in blind pick and you never get filled in draft or ranked , forget the whole balance thing , there is something wrong with the players themselves , especially with people here in boards , I swear I never thought of adc being such an important role until I came here , they keep making the joke that " tanks are useless and will die fast " well of course they are useless and gonna die fast when they go 1 vs 5 when I try to post complaining about flamers and afkers , they blamed me and said the possibility of you having afkers and trollers is the same for the enemy to have afkers and trollers there was once where I posted about to never make us get champion shards in hextech chests because we are getting tons of champion shards when leveling up already and got like 10 downvotes , cmon why downvoting me for opening 5 chests and getting only champion shards ? and the funny part after a week I saw the same exact threat as mine complaining about shards in chests and it had 100+ upvotes sorry for saying many things that has nothing to do with your thread , just a bit angry and nervous and sorry for my bad English
We had an entire patch specifically for top laners, it didn’t do shit, but that says something about the state of the lane that an entire patch is dedicated to making it less shitty?
: And if the risk of running at them is too low (ex: too tanky), then it's meaningless because melees are inherently faster than ranged champions. But if they're squishy enough to be killable in a 1v1 situation, then they're way too squishy for teamfighting. Likewise if they can more easily survive teamfights, they'll be too tanky to ever fight 1v1 or even 2v1.
Melees should be inherently faster when champions like Vayne, Tristana, Azir, Ezreal, Lux, Kalista, and Ahri exist where they have so much self peel it's actually a crime for an immobile melee to ever get to touch them unless they're caught off guard Edit: Melees have more movespeed baseline in Heroes of the Storm and they're actually as viable as ranged there, tunrates exist to stop kiting in Dota and melees are actually fucking viable there
Antenora (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=DarkMapache,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WOXlxyEN,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-01-11T01:28:51.795+0000) > > But the main problem is her Silver Bolts skill, Final Hour might as well give no AD once she´s full build (actually, a lot before that) According to champion.gg 17.15% of Vayne's damage is True damage. Silver Bolts makes up LESS THAN 1/5th of Vayne's damage. It's not a problem at all.
That's counting damage to minions, damage to towers, even damage to wards. All things that don't usually or don't proc silver bolts at all. Checking op.gg you'll notice that the many mages have a lot of their damage as physical
Antenora (EUW)
: Funny but Meddler's already told us they are planning to hit the AD Final Hour (R) gives.
Vayne is one of the few champions that doesn't need AD to melt faces, it's like removing a cherry from a cake
Lovesick (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=YuGiHo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=e4ddJdKB,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-01-11T05:38:25.333+0000) > > Like how they randomly nerf voli for no reason? The Silver balance team's backsides still haven't recovered from that one game where a Bronze Voli crushed them.
: Unfortunately they said they wouldn’t do the same types twice in a row, And in this case Marksman So no ash or sivir next But there are a number of other options {{champion:12}} , {{champion:1}} , {{champion:41}} , {{champion:86}} , {{champion:74}} , {{champion:30}} , {{champion:38}} , {{champion:75}} , {{champion:58}}, {{champion:37}} .
Didn’t they just do Varus through?
AkemiSen (EUW)
: > Her E is a non skillshot It has a slow part in it, believe it or not but I've seen some Lux saving lives by delaying it when people who just play her normally would've procced it immediately. I'm trying to say that every champion has his tricks, weird parts of their kits that aren't the most intuitive so just because a champion is mechanically simple it doesn't mean that he's "braindead" or anything. > By non skillshot I mean if you have more than say... 4 brain cells you’ll almost never miss it unless you’re against fizz Because you're assuming that the enemy team is an idiot. It's a skillshot like any other, I don't care if people need to make up for their frustration on Lux, it can be missed and like every other projectile in the game takes skill to be used. I don't even play her, it just looks like people have so much hate for certain kind of champions without a reason. It's like I'm seeing those people asking to 1vs1 them in all chat claiming that you're playing a noob champ, completely worthless.
> [{quoted}](name=AkemiSen,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=NQkFddky,comment-id=0012,timestamp=2018-01-10T13:48:15.752+0000) > > It has a slow part in it, believe it or not but I&#x27;ve seen some Lux saving lives by delaying it when people who just play her normally would&#x27;ve procced it immediately. I&#x27;m trying to say that every champion has his tricks, weird parts of their kits that aren&#x27;t the most intuitive so just because a champion is mechanically simple it doesn&#x27;t mean that he&#x27;s &quot;braindead&quot; or anything. > > Because you&#x27;re assuming that the enemy team is an idiot. It&#x27;s a skillshot like any other, I don&#x27;t care if people need to make up for their frustration on Lux, it can be missed and like every other projectile in the game takes skill to be used. > > I don&#x27;t even play her, it just looks like people have so much hate for certain kind of champions without a reason. It&#x27;s like I&#x27;m seeing those people asking to 1vs1 them in all chat claiming that you&#x27;re playing a noob champ, completely worthless. I don't say this in many cases, but if you EVER miss a Lux e and you're not facing someone with immediate untargetability, and you aren't above 100 ms or crowd controlled, you need to get good. It's a non skillshot, the other player doesn't have agency to dodge it unless they're a specific champion, you just have to hope someone's hands have nerve damage for them to miss your character. It's one of the only non skillshot spells in the game. The only other are origin starting aoes, like Amumu ult
Azadethe (NA)
: And Faker's not pulling 25 kill games. His KDA has dropped from about 13/5/8 to about 8/4/10 since the last nerf. If he was playing Ahri or LB, he'd have 25 kill games at challenger level.
25 kill games in challenger Korea {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
Azadethe (NA)
: why do you care about a ground bubble you can walk around?
Hmm I don't know, maybe because there's areas of the map that the bubble can reach wall to wall? Why do we care about Viktor W when we can walk around it?
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