: Jungle in Soloqueue
The jungle actually requires skill now. High elo junglers seem fine with the changes. I watched Karasmai rape Challenger on Blue Kayn. Went like 25-4 or some shit like that. No brain players can no longer just run away with games from the jungle easy mode just because enemy laners are more brain dead. You actually have to know what you're doing now.
: Well, Olaf is in kind of a identity crisis. Let me explain. You see, when the whole Class/Subclass thing started back in 2016 or so, Olaf was first listed with the Juggernauts. Juggernauts are champions like {{champion:86}} and {{champion:122}} and {{champion:420}} and {{champion:6}} and so on. They are described as the following: Juggernauts are melee titans who relentlessly march down the opposition and devastate those foolish enough to get within their grasp. They are the only subclass who excel at both dealing and taking significant amounts of damage, but in turn they have a tough time closing in on targets due to their low range and extremely limited mobility. Olaf USED to be listed among the champions in this subclass. BUT, when they did a second pass about a year later in 2017, Olaf was placed among the Divers. The reasoning for this? You got me. (Of Course, Skarner was originally supposed to be a Juggernaut, as we all recall his whole inclusion in the inaugural Juggernaut Update, but that's a mess all its own) So I think with the way his kit is currently set up, he can't be nailed down reliably as one type or another. Let's look at it. Passive: AS (Attack Speed)% increases as Health% gets lower. The passive grants him more AS which means he has access to continuous damage or DPS. Makes sense since like ADCs, Fighters are supposed to be DPS-based. That applies to both Divers AND Juggernauts. Q: Skillshot based Axe-throw that damages and applies a slow only if the skillshot connects. This is both a damage skill and provides Olaf with his main form of CC. This is something that could place him more in the Juggernaut-area, as he has only 1 form of CC, this slow on the Axe. W: More AS, as well as Life-Steal AND increased healing from all sources based on his missing health. This is something that's a little confusing, at least IMO. He gets AS (Somewhat like Jarvan's flag or Xin's dash do) for activating it, on top of any AS he already has from his passive, so that COULD be a point for the argument that he's in the Diver class (As most Juggernauts usually don't have anything that grants them instant AS boosts aside from maybe Urgot's W, and even then he attacks at a FIXED AS rate while it's active rather than boosting his existing AS). But, this also grants him Lifesteal AND increased healing and while sustain via in-combat heals is something SOME Divers have (Like {{champion:164}} or {{champion:5}} ), sustain via in-combat heals is USUALLY attributed more to Juggernauts (Such as {{champion:122}} Q heal with Outer Circle of Q, or {{champion:83}} heal on Q, and so on). So this has arguments for BOTH classes, as the free AS leans in the Diver direction, while the Sustain leans in the Juggernaut direction. E: Deal true damage to the target. This has some aspects of both Divers and Juggernauts AGAIN. It deals true damage, something often seen in Juggernaut kits ({{champion:122}} Dunk, {{champion:86}} Villain passive) and acts as a Auto-Attack Reset, if I'm not mistaken (Haven't played Olaf in a long time, so correct me if I'm wrong) which is something else that Juggernauts often have. But the cool-down for the skill is reduced by Auto-Attacking, something NOT seen in Juggernaut kits IIRC. That points again back in the Diver direction. R: Passively grants resistances when not active. Removes CC and becomes immune to any following CC after activation as well as bonus AD. Grants Movement Speed for 1 Second in the direction of nearby enemy champs. This skill is a mess all its own. First, he is granted FREE resistances (Granted it's a flat amount, but the point nonetheless stands) for not using the skill. The only Juggernauts with comparable things are Nasus, Trundle or Shyvana. ({{champion:75}} gets his from his ult, as does {{champion:48}} while {{champion:102}} gets it on her main passive, and even then, Nasus and Trundle's boosts are only temporary, while Shyvana's only increases if she can kill Epic Monsters like the Dragon). No other Diver has FREE Resistances for simply existing. And the Juggernauts that have it ONLY have it temporarily with the exception of Shyvana, and even then hers is minuscule (A whopping 5 of each) and ONLY increases IF she can kill Dragons. He also gets free AD JUST for using it! Sure, {{champion:122}} gets free AD, but he HAS to activate Noxian Might first and that requires all 5 stacks of his passive on a target or killing someone with his Dunk. So that could be a Juggernaut point again. BUT, Olaf ALSO gets FREE MOVEMENT SPEED just for activating it! This skill is ALL OVER THE PLACE! Let's JUST list what THIS SKILL ALONE gives. Free Resistances- Would be more in line with Tanks like Vanguards and Wardens. Free AD and CC Resistance/Immunity- In line with Juggernauts. Free Movement Speed: In line with Divers to try and get on backlines. So I hope this exemplifies just what a big heaping mess of ALL SORTS OF CLASSES AT ONCE, that Olaf is. Sure, he has more Juggernaut traits than Diver, but he's got more Diver traits than he has Tank/Vanguard or Warden, so, really, where DO YOU put him? I'm kind of surprised that HE didn't end up as one of the choices on that 2020 VGU vote.
I think juggernaut is the best classification for him. Something I've noticed about all the Juggernauts is that they can all build entirely defensive and still deal significant amounts of damage. Olaf can do this as well. Divers, skirmishers and all the grades of the fighter class in between that aren't juggernauts must build more damage heavy.
: Am I the only one that really hates Urgot?
I doubt you hate him more than I do.
: Yuumi proves how utterly clueless this forum is.
Yummi is the Singed of the support role.
: there are games where 2 or 3 teammates ban nothing so this won't be very helpful
I've never seen this. I see only a single team mate not banning anything in ranked about once every 2 months.
: Pessimism and defeatism will not make you climb any faster. YOU can do better, and YOU can carry. YOU just need to focus on YOU.
You don't need to carry to climb and you certainly don't need to be that one asshole that always insist every game is winnable and refuse to ff when all your team mates are 0-9. All you really have to do is NEVER is any game be the reason your team loses. https://lan.op.gg/summoner/userName=xelniya That account started somewhere in Iron and I got it straight to Gold. I only carried like 4 games if so much. The difference between that account and my other accounts stuck in Silver/Bronze is that on that one I focused exclusively on not taking stupid risks and snowballing my lane. Very very few games on that account did I go like 0-5 in lane. On my Silver/Bronze accounts, I'm always taking risks, making plays etc. Sometimes it works but most times it just makes things worse. I end up feeding, throwing, just all manner of bad shit happens. It's possible to climb by playing aggro, making plays and carrying but you have to be really fuckin good. The average player won't be that good so the best thing to do is focus on not being the 0-5 by 10 minutes kinda trash common in SoloQ and you can climb. It's boring as fuck but it works.
: no such thing as jungle difference in low elo
Truer words have never been spoken. The true problem of low elo is low elo players only know how to play when they go 5-0 early game. God forbid they die once in lane, they would keep trying to get fed and end up going 2-13 by the end of the game. So that jungle difference OP is talking about is actually the jungler falling behind doing things that should only be done when ahead. Perfect example I see every day, jungler goes 0-1, top lane is 0-2, jungler repeatedly ganks top. This is the highest and most common form of stupidity you would see in low elo.
: > [{quoted}](name=FioraWillCarry,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kVkbEAIi,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-17T22:41:50.628+0000) > > Nasus can be zoned off by 70% of the roster with proper wave management. People do this all the time to me, I've even seen people do it correctly in Bronze. Nasus is one of those champions that if you lose he'll be ahead, and if you win you have to babysit hin for he won't stack his q and take your towers.
When he is stacking, he's not helping the rest of his team which means it's 4v5 for what will seem like forever. So if zone him early, he'll be forced to stay in lane just killing minions for the next 20 minutes while you're off winning the game. If he tries to leave understacked to help, he'll actually be a liability.
Xavanic (NA)
: Gold for kills needs to scale throughout the game
I can get behind this. I've been saying for years that kills grant far too much gold and it's the primary reason behind all the frustration in League.
: Yuumi's WR proves Yuumi isnt bad, YOU ARE!
Fuck that "lets work together" kumbaya bullshit. I want to be a 1 man team that destroys the enemy team singlehandedly while my own team serves as mere distractions for me to do my thing. The vast majority of humans are brain dead mouth breathing shitheads and I don't want to have to depend on them for my success. That's what this game should be about. Maybe when humans evolve an acceptable level of intelligence, then we can talk about team work.
: Nasus Skill cap down in the dumpster?
Nasus can be zoned off by 70% of the roster with proper wave management. People do this all the time to me, I've even seen people do it correctly in Bronze.
Midg3t (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=FioraWillCarry,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=6uVl6etO,comment-id=0002000000010000000000000001,timestamp=2019-05-17T17:17:16.114+0000) > > Looking at his match history, I don't see any evidence that he is trolling. He is just supremely bad. I'm 70% sure that he is a new player, probably only playing this game for a few months now. He builds all the recommended items and his KDA doesn't suggest that he is inting. If he was inting, he'd have 3x the deaths. Also note that he is in the correct elo for his skill level. He is actually proof that the system works well. You do realise you don't need to have "3x more deaths" to int? You only need to give kills intentionally, no matter how many of them. But in all honesty, that guy is suspicious. I get that he's low elo but still i dont think he would be able to win only 1 of 14 games. Don't want to say for sure, but he's fishy.
He dies no more or less than people I see every day in SoloQ. In every single game I play there is always someone among the 10 players that die as much as he does. His KDA is typical of bad players we see all the time. A true inter would be dying 15+ times every single game. As for winning only 1 in 14 games, it's surprisingly easy to lose games in League. A player as new as him would lose that many games. It's a lot easier for a bad player to lose a game than it is for a good one to win a game.
: I have a solution: Make a custom game with 3 beginner bots on your team, and 5 intermediate on the enemy team. The lane order is as follows, from top to bottom on the pre-game lobby screen: Bot Top Mid Bot Top Tbh this 4v5 is actually more difficult than a 1v5 against intermediate bots, because your beginner bot teammates will either feed the enemies, or be forced to recall constantly and fall far behind in gold / exp.
I do this from time to time when I want to feel out a new build. Although I do 5v5 with beginner bots on my team and intermediate on the enemy team. I take mid lane so I would get solo xp and cs.
: Since this last patch, I've played something like 700 games. Typically I queue for Jungle/Top, I have been filed to Jungle EVERY SINGLE TIME in those games, every single one. Getting tired of playing the crippled role where my cs counts for less and I can be 10/0 and still underleveled, I decided to try top. I queued Top/Jg, got autofilled right bank to jungle, six times in a row. I can't even get enough practice in draft to learn a new role because autofill won't let me. Bought new champion Yuumi, can't even queue support without getting filed back to jungle, purchase wasted. Riot says: crickets. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/HLxCASV.jpg[/IMG]
If you don't want jungle, don't queue for jungle. It's really that simple.
AZ Frost (NA)
: ***
Looking at his match history, I don't see any evidence that he is trolling. He is just supremely bad. I'm 70% sure that he is a new player, probably only playing this game for a few months now. He builds all the recommended items and his KDA doesn't suggest that he is inting. If he was inting, he'd have 3x the deaths. Also note that he is in the correct elo for his skill level. He is actually proof that the system works well.
AZ Frost (NA)
: i don't see how going 15 deaths or staying at only lvl 12 in a 40 min game isnt trolling in ranked. U should have some skill and knowledge to play in ranked.
I just hard won lane vs a fuckin Mundo playing Fiora, something that shouldn't ever happen. He fed like 3 kills in lane and allowed me to run amok on the map. Was he a troll? No, he was just bad, like really bad. He kept getting himself low in lane, allowing me to all in him multiple times. Either he was noob or brain damaged but he was trying to win. This is what SoloQ is about. Garbage players feed. That's how the game is designed and you will get a lot of garbage players in SoloQ. On your team, and sometimes, the enemy team. Just because someone is pure trash doesn't mean they are trolling. Someone dying 15 times is normal in ranked. It happens and it's horrible when they are on your team but this is just a reflection of how garbage the player is. It doesn't mean they are trolling.
AZ Frost (NA)
: so its my fault that players are intent feeding every game? ok...
They are not inting. They are just shit trash players. Nothing can be done about that and you will get them on enemy teams as well. But they are most certainly not trolls.
AZ Frost (NA)
: I've just been trolled 20 of 22 games in a row..done
You're either a blatant liar or a troll yourself. There is no way 20 of 22 games had trolls ONLY on your team. It's not even possible if you're considering trolls on the enemy team too. I haven't seen single troll is well over 60 games now. Please stop this shit.
: im an littarly stuck in bronze 2
I easily got to Gold on one account simply by focusing every game on not being the reason my team loses. That means no feeding and absolutely no going 0-5 in lane, like ever, even if you have to afk under your tower with no cs to do it. I didn't have to carry or anything and I just climbed to Gold. It's boring but effective. It also greatly helps if don't play on tilt. Don't play any more after losing 2 in a row. You may start playing again when that loss feels like a distant memory. Usually means about 15 minutes to half an hour of not playing. They way it works is by tilting the odds in your favor because every team you play on only has 4 players with a 50% chance of feeding while the enemy team has 5 players with a chance of feeding. Over time you very easily net more wins than losses and you climb, just like that. Like I said, it's boring as fuck but extremely effective. You won't have a crazy smurf-like win rate but you do have a high enough win rate to climb. Here's the account I did it on:- https://lan.op.gg/summoner/userName=xelniya Also, note that on this account, I never screwed up the MMR so I was consistently gaining 20+ LP per win. If your MMR is fucked, this method is going to be painfully slow because of low LP gains and massive LP losses.
Nêêkô (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=FioraWillCarry,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EKL1Zxop,comment-id=00030002,timestamp=2019-05-16T03:46:26.761+0000) > > To be honest, this sounds like one of those hardcore feedfests. I wouldn't have bothered begging them. I'd just ff. These kinds of shit games are unwinnable. Dude its my promos, would u ff in your promo?
> [{quoted}](name=Nêêkô,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EKL1Zxop,comment-id=000300020000,timestamp=2019-05-16T03:56:05.262+0000) > > Dude its my promos, would u ff in your promo? Why not? Every lane going 0-7 in 10 minutes doesn't suddenly become winnable just because it's promos.
Nêêkô (NA)
: Game 2 Pre-Game Nêêkô: neeko or veigar Nêêkô: ? Nêêkô: sure Nêêkô: xerath is kinda problem In-Game Nêêkô: i cant pingmmore Nêêkô: ahahaha Nêêkô: muted Nêêkô: seriously Nêêkô: go fuckk yourself (The guy flames me for not following the mid lane even though i pinged 100 times) Nêêkô: wp Nêêkô: damn Nêêkô: this sup (Complimenting support here) Nêêkô: lol Nêêkô: top play safe Nêêkô: im not loosing mid Nêêkô: why Nêêkô: ugh Nêêkô: let me caryr Nêêkô: mid and top feeding hard Nêêkô: but we can win (Motivating the team and try to make them believe that we can win) Nêêkô: amumu Nêêkô: sto Nêêkô: p Nêêkô: please? Nêêkô: why Nêêkô: just play Nêêkô: no Nêêkô: pls Nêêkô: plat Nêêkô: play Nêêkô: we can win Nêêkô: we will win (Still motivating) Nêêkô: mute amumu Nêêkô: and play Nêêkô: we will win trust me Nêêkô: thresh stick together Nêêkô: pls Nêêkô: they question mark Nêêkô: care Nêêkô: thresh Nêêkô: dude Nêêkô: why Nêêkô: the Nêêkô: fuckk Nêêkô: give uup Nêêkô: just fking play (Asking why giving up when we can win) Nêêkô: ofg Nêêkô: mute him (Team gets affected because of thresh flame and feed so I tell them to mute him) Nêêkô: mvm Nêêkô: report Nêêkô: jung Nêêkô: flaming and inting (This is after they basically finished the game, tellin the all chat what happened) Nêêkô: 1 7 2 Nêêkô: kai u wanna duo Nêêkô: next game? Nêêkô: cause she doest give up Nêêkô: nore Nêêkô: flames Nêêkô: thats enough foir me Nêêkô: im getting rabadon Nêêkô: gg Nêêkô: report amumu Nêêkô: inting and flaming Nêêkô: thanks Post-Game Nêêkô: report amumu for inting and flaming Nêêkô: he can come to your team Nêêkô: thanks So this is why I get 14 days ban. If this gives 14 days ban then I dont know how there are still people playing this game. Sorry for profanity but I dont think this deserves a 14 day ban.
> [{quoted}](name=Nêêkô,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EKL1Zxop,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-05-15T22:59:24.795+0000) > > Game 2 > Pre-Game > Nêêkô: neeko or veigar > Nêêkô: ? > Nêêkô: sure > Nêêkô: xerath is kinda problem > In-Game > Nêêkô: i cant pingmmore > Nêêkô: ahahaha > Nêêkô: muted > Nêêkô: seriously > Nêêkô: go fuckk yourself (The guy flames me for not following the mid lane even though i pinged 100 times) > Nêêkô: wp > Nêêkô: damn > Nêêkô: this sup (Complimenting support here) > Nêêkô: lol > Nêêkô: top play safe > Nêêkô: im not loosing mid > Nêêkô: why > Nêêkô: ugh > Nêêkô: let me caryr > Nêêkô: mid and top feeding hard > Nêêkô: but we can win (Motivating the team and try to make them believe that we can win) > Nêêkô: amumu > Nêêkô: sto > Nêêkô: p > Nêêkô: please? > Nêêkô: why > Nêêkô: just play > Nêêkô: no > Nêêkô: pls > Nêêkô: plat > Nêêkô: play > Nêêkô: we can win > Nêêkô: we will win (Still motivating) > Nêêkô: mute amumu > Nêêkô: and play > Nêêkô: we will win trust me > Nêêkô: thresh stick together > Nêêkô: pls > Nêêkô: they question mark > Nêêkô: care > Nêêkô: thresh > Nêêkô: dude > Nêêkô: why > Nêêkô: the > Nêêkô: fuckk > Nêêkô: give uup > Nêêkô: just fking play (Asking why giving up when we can win) > Nêêkô: ofg > Nêêkô: mute him (Team gets affected because of thresh flame and feed so I tell them to mute him) > Nêêkô: mvm > Nêêkô: report > Nêêkô: jung > Nêêkô: flaming and inting (This is after they basically finished the game, tellin the all chat what happened) > Nêêkô: 1 7 2 > Nêêkô: kai u wanna duo > Nêêkô: next game? > Nêêkô: cause she doest give up > Nêêkô: nore > Nêêkô: flames > Nêêkô: thats enough foir me > Nêêkô: im getting rabadon > Nêêkô: gg > Nêêkô: report amumu > Nêêkô: inting and flaming > Nêêkô: thanks > Post-Game > Nêêkô: report amumu for inting and flaming > Nêêkô: he can come to your team > Nêêkô: thanks > > > > So this is why I get 14 days ban. If this gives 14 days ban then I dont know how there are still people playing this game. Sorry for profanity but I dont think this deserves a 14 day ban. To be honest, this sounds like one of those hardcore feedfests. I wouldn't have bothered begging them. I'd just ff. These kinds of shit games are unwinnable.
AR URF (NA)
: Want to win ranked games?
It may feel like you stumbled onto some super secret mojo that makes you a SoloQ God but trust me, that will be over soon. I can't tell you how many times I tried some new strat or champ, won a bunch of games with it thinking I finally solved SoloQ only for hardcore feeders to show me just how completely wrong I was. Enjoy it while it lasts though, because when those high level feeders start getting on your teams, it's gonna hit you like a truck.
: What are your tips for being untiltable aside from /mute all?
> [{quoted}](name=Mavëríck,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wAOX4Y4s,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-05-15T00:36:39.943+0000) > >There is nothing more tilting than the constant audio of "AN ALLY AS BEEN **_SLAIN_**" to make me boil over in rage at "HOW DARE MY TEAM FEED! WTF?! You have no idea how much this drives me insane, especially when I'm doing good in lane. Disabling her won't help me much though. I'll still tilt when I watch the score and see 20-6. And I'll go right over the edge when someone refuses to surrender while saying "we can win".
: everyone can calculate odds of winning with a few variables it doesn't make you any special but the sooner you stop wasting your efforts on figuring out if the game is winnable during the lobby/loading screen the sooner you will start winning those unwinnable games
Unwinnable games are unwinnable. Why waste time even entertaining the idea that there is some way you can win. Fact is, a large portion of games are unwinnable. However, I've never found it difficult to tell which games are unwinnable. If your team has fed more kills than minutes passed in game, then you have an unwinnable game. This is how I tell and I'm only ever wrong 0.001% of the time.
hoganftw (NA)
: Top lane is for masochists.
This so true. Top lane is usually decided by the first kill and after than, the loser is basically left trying to scrape by on very limited Gold owing to being zoned and poked the fuck out depending on the match up. Top lane is win hard or lose hard, there is no going even.
Vonyalo (EUW)
: Not a single day without someone being afk
I recently concluded an experiment where I took notes of 60 of my games. Of those 60 games, 3 were remakes, and of the valid 57 games, there were only 2 games with afks. I won one because of an afk and lost one because of an afk. Stop stirring up shit. Unless you're playing on the LAN server where afks are rampant, there is no way you get an afk every day.
: you barely play fiora to have her in your name mate
https://lan.op.gg/summoner/userName=xelniya https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=vbniya
: i really wish low elo players would take constructive criticism better.
No one who has never climbed to my highest elo is any position to give me advice on how to play. If someone can't at least make Gold, I'm not gonna listen to them.
: You would expect the female league players to tilt less
How do you even know they are female? And worse, why does it even matter?
KueˆT (NA)
: I'm sick of having foreigners Inting my games
Seriously? We're complaining about this now?
: That's nothing. I had a jungler who said he would only gank the good lanes, resulting in bot lane being creamed by a camping enemy jungler. Mind you, the adc had a good score, but not good enough for the jungler's expectations. He also blamed the ADC for losing. Like bitch, you literally abandoned that lane and never ganked it, what the fuck are you doing you fucking ingrown toenail?
> [{quoted}](name=MunchingDragon,realm=NA,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=JK7bYigm,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-13T17:40:26.439+0000) > > That's nothing. I had a jungler who said he would only gank the good lanes Lucky you. You had a good jungler. Only idiots, shitheads and apes gank feeding lanes.
Technorch (EUW)
: Why the fuck did I get Bronze 4
Would you rather some noobshit ape that goes 0-17 vs Bronzies in normals to be placed in Gold? It's better higher skilled people be placed lower than lower skilled people be placed higher.
TSC Apple (EUW)
: The Problem with Ranked and its Report System
Dodging in promos is not as punishing as most people believe. Dodging doesn't affect your MMR which means you will be earning more LP per win which means you get back to promos faster. Now, a single dodge isn't going to up your LP gains but a fair amount of dodges will see you gaining more LP for wins over time. So don't be afraid to dodge, even in promos. MMR is what actually matters.
: Some pointers on Fiora Vitals?
It goes from frontside to back side repeatedly. Whether it's left-front/back or right-front/back is rng.
FD GOD MAN (EUNE)
: Why explode ? all we have bad lucks so we deserve opportunities
The underlying theme here is control. It's easy not to explode when YOU are the one responsible for your failure but when it's 4 other people doing God knows what fuckin up your day, it is highly irritating because there is not a single thing you can do about it. This is why League is so frustrating.
: > [{quoted}](name=FioraWillCarry,realm=NA,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=wFH7Qgnn,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-11T19:54:57.618+0000) > > I always feed on Brand no matter how many times I play him. He just doesn't click for me. Kai'sa is another example. I have no clue how people carry on these champs. > > Some people just can't play certain champs. OK tell me what your usual play style is. As Brand/Kai'Sa, do you understand you're not a front line tank?
With Brand I never seem to be able to get a full combo off. People dodge his shit way too easily. His abilities feel very sluggish. People can see what you're going to do and have more than enough time to respond. I'm sure it's nothing a few hundred games on Brand can't fix. Kaisa is a different matter. I just don't know how people get fed in lane with her. She seems to do so little damage. Whenever I play her, I just get out traded by every single marksman in the game. They do a billion damage while I tickle them. I never know what to build on her and it seems she doesn't really become a champion until like 3 or 4 items. I just don't get her at all.
: Truth hurts doesn't it.
Are you saying the system is elo shaming by preventing you from getting out of Silver?
Sylaelque (EUW)
: People always reflect how you act them so if you act them like this they will respond same way to you and this wouldn't help anyone because it will trigger rejection as passive defense system. If you really think it is a bad pick for their lane just ban their champion then don't type single word because I know this players not listening when you just say. https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/4020280542/2031123434525184?tab=overview As example Morgana in here was actually top laner and this player was really bad as Quin while our team really needs a tank in that game so I said him/her our team need a tank but didn't listen then I ban this player's champion then typed /mute all in game then we won easily but in the end of game I saw this player was still spamming report Eve in the summary and didn't took single honor from that game but we won anyways after that I blocked that player and checked his/her history then saw his/her 3 lose in a row as top Quin after this game. So never argue with this kind of players because they just don't want to understand and just make the thing what it comes right in that moment.
If you banned my champ in game, I will run it the fuck down and make sure you lose.
: > [{quoted}](name=FunnyDragoon,realm=NA,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=pPQwvMrE,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-05-07T22:00:42.405+0000) > > What is the absolute fucking point in forcing me to act kind to the other fucking lobotomized apes of my elo? > > I don't fucking care about how they feel, I don't fucking care about sportsmanship or whatever crap Riot spews, and I sure as hell don't fucking care if they kill themselves in their own room 20 minutes after for being weak-willed genetic dead ends. > I'm forced to kind with people at my place of work all fucking day and then have to do it all over again to even play this fucking game due to Riot's absolutely dreadful excuse of trying to enforce a 'friendly' environment. > I don't want to be friendly to the queer Jungle feeding kills to the Riven, I don't want to friendly with the mid Kog'Maw getting absolutely annihilated by the first pick Zed, or the duo botlane with an average of 10% winrate in 500 games. > I'm fed up with the stupid formalities and fed up with this stupid fucking company forcing me to play nice with all the other r%%%%%s who play this fucking game with me. I agree 100% as do most players, however on these boards you're supposed to pretend that mean words are scary! How dare you sir! You should thank those incompetent auto-loss monkeys that wasted your time! Say GG! Honor them for losing and wasting your time! Reinforce bad habits and encourage suckage! Participation trophies for everyone!
: Forced Kindness
I agree with your position OP. I hate having to be nice to feeding shit stains that go 0-9 in 5 minutes and refuse to surrender.
: How is the at all acceptable matchmaking?
You can't queue with Silver players but that doesn't mean you can't get matched with them through MMR.
: I am not wasting anymore time
: How are some people so bad on certain champs?
I always feed on Brand no matter how many times I play him. He just doesn't click for me. Kai'sa is another example. I have no clue how people carry on these champs. Some people just can't play certain champs.
FD GOD MAN (EUNE)
: Why all players are toxic and negative :(
This game at a fundamental level is not actually fun. A lot of matches feel hopeless from very early on due to things we have no control over. For example, if you lose 4 games in a row because your bot lane went 0-10 in 7 minutes in each of those matches, the game itself becomes quite frustrating so when you go into your 5th game, you're ready to explode as soon as someone dies on your team.
: id wager that at least 70% of the unenjoyment in this game is caused by other players being toxic
I don't care about toxic players. I only care about whether my team is consisted of feeders or not.
: "If you play bad, we'll all report you" - clans/groups/premades
Yea, you'll get punished because the mass reports will draw attention and then someone will review your games and chat restrict or ban you for some off key comment you made like 100 games ago. You best bet is to stay silent in all of your games.
: I keep encountering white supremacists / extreme racists in games
I've known about the alt-right for something like 6 years, long before the average person even knew of such a thing. Since the election of Donald Trump, the alt-right exploded in popularity and stormed the gates of mainstream consciousness. It's no surprise that their disgusting little man child club can be found here of all places today. Americans need to get serious about this evil before it's too late. If you told me 6 years ago that everyone would know what the alt-right is, I'd have laughed at you. Who knows what they would become 10 years from now if it's not stopped now. We could be looking at the Nazi Germany in the US, something I once thought ridiculous.
: Really, elo shaming now? That's inappropriate and offensive. With that said I have no reason to answer you. Good bye.
Prime159 (NA)
: Can we do something about matchmaking ?
The system averages MMR of the team and builds an opposing team of similar average MMR. One Diamond in a team of Bronzies would skew towards Bronze. One Bronzie in a team of Diamonds would skew it towards Diamond. It's working as intended.
: It's still true. Riot just gives me a ton of shit that delays me from getting there.
If that were true, there'd be no one in Challenger, Master, Diamond, Platinum and Gold. Also, why aren't you in Iron? Since Riot gives you shit, how did you even get to Silver to begin with?
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