BlackXIV (EUW)
: Quinn's animations are slow
It wasnt too long ago that some assassins got a bunch of reworks to delay their damage and extend that combo execution time. Quinn doesnt need to be like the other assassins. Other assassins need to be like quinn.
: Help v.s. Aatrox
This heavily depends on what you're playing, what level youre fighting at and the gold difference between you two. Aatriox pretty routinely gets bodied by champions that can get directly on top of him and have the durability to trade blows with him. Kled is ideal at this because he does both of that and has grievous wounds built into his kit. Fiora also does excellently because it forces aatrox to reduce his own damage or die to your parry. Volibear and rengar are off meta top laners that also body him quite handily.
Yenn (NA)
: Hitting Rengar with CC during his jump and still dying in half a second does not feel good
Invest in knock-ups i guess{{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} [](http://gfycat.com/neatnastyglassfrog)
: Why are tanks the only role without a high impact item?
JetRam (OCE)
: Mordekaiser has ridiculously low HP for a Mid-frontliner
If you hadnt noticed, all of the phantom units are aggressively mediocre. Phantom is extraordinarily strong for a 2 unit bonus. Simply the price you pay.
: What Does a Non-Karma Main Think of Karma? You Down-vote & Harass With No Explanation
Rioter Comments
KazKaz (OCE)
: Remove creep/minion block
And while we're at it, how about minion targeting making fucking sense for once. Ive missed too many minions because the cannons decided to switch targets randomly.
EUR0BEAT (EUW)
: [Suggestion] Voice Chat in Games with Random People (I know it sounds ridiculous)
Riots already asked the community about this years ago, the community voted against having voice chat.
: Not gonna lie, Aatrox's new mini-rework did hit the spot
He probably shouldnt amp outside sources of healing, yeah. But i feel like if hes still proplay viable its going to be because of his flexibility. That fact that he can be played mid top AND jungle is a huge boon for pro teams in the draft phase. This compounds with the fact that riot hates it when top laners manage to escape their containment zone(despite loving it whenever ranged champions who cant compete midlane shit up top lane for whatever reason). I think aatrox is in a good spot, his winrate is a little high for how high his pickrate is(oh wait, rivens pick and winrate is higher and shes just below the bar! Guess he's perfectly balanced!) but id like to see how he fares after having outside healing sources lowered because his winrate fucking TANKS the second games go past 25 minutes.
: Feels like they really want to push him into the top lane now. I mean...I'l do it, it's always fun. But I liked having him as a support.
> [{quoted}](name=Baron Barian,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6Pv0TOw1,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-04-19T00:31:33.310+0000) > > Feels like they really want to push him into the top lane now. > > I mean...I'l do it, it's always fun. But I liked having him as a support. If they wanted him in the top lane they shouldnt have nerfed his W, the huge % damage on that was a huge part of why he was a strong laner and top tahm was already a "win lane lose game" champ
GigglesO (NA)
: @Riot Why Not Buff Tank items?
Tank items werent nerfed because of tanks, they were nerfed because non-tanks bought tank items and did too much damage while being too hard to kill(notable ekko) There was a huge reform that gave tanks more stat growth while taking away that growth from the items themselves so other champions wouldnt buy them. This really wasnt that long ago and im surprised to he boards forgot so quickly. Per usual tanks are not the problem with league of legends, its the hyper mobile hyper damage champions, tank meta's are the best meta's.
: Level 2 gankers are going to gank no matter what though, it's not exactly like you can stop them from ganking level 2 for the reasons that lie primarily in their kit. The EXP changes make it so if a gank fails, the jungler is actually punished with the time it took to gank instead of farming. Meanwhile, map aware junglers can use that advantage to take the opposite side jungler's camps, further punishing them. Folk keep missing the point of the changes. The point wasn't to nerf level 2 gankers, it was to add a price onto ganking that wasn't being paid before. An unsuccessful gank just meant they could whip back into their jungle, and still be the same level and gold as their laner counterparts, who aren't roaming 24/7. That's not even to mention actually getting a successful gank puts you and your laner ahead, and then you get your camps on top of that. The point of the changes, was to put a price to ganks. Junglers have the unique ability to constantly pace about the map, and influence the game heavily. If a laner could do that, and stay equal in EXP and gold even with a failed roam, there sure as hell would be an outrage.
> [{quoted}](name=Academy Kayn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=G8jriuA4,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-04-01T01:20:37.131+0000) > The point of the changes, was to put a price to ganks. Not much of a price, There have been plenty of games where im playing a jungler thats weaker than the opponents jungler so i invade rather than counter gank and we'll end up the same level despite me having 30 more cs than him simply because the camps that i stole werent worth that much, as evidenced by the rise of hard ganking early game only junglers. Even more than usual.
: Patch 9.7 or how to keep making the game unfun for everyone involved
Some of the least played and lowest winrate champs get buffs and you people are upset about this?
Dbag17 (NA)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Dbag17,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RT0UKVEr,comment-id=00000003,timestamp=2019-03-28T10:01:52.494+0000) > > if ur so smart and good why u have a 43% its cause ur a great player huh A 43% what?
: > [{quoted}](name=Fluffeh,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RT0UKVEr,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-27T23:11:53.622+0000) > > Because his damage is very low for an assassin and all of his abilities are incredibly telegraphed? Was that a joke? Or do you actually believe Pyke has low damage?
> [{quoted}](name=epic style bro,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RT0UKVEr,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-03-27T23:14:13.921+0000) > > Was that a joke? Or do you actually believe Pyke has low damage? Unquestionably. It would be easy to point to literally any other assassin but compare him to the traditional mage supports like brand and annie and vel'koz, Its not even close. Until somebody gets into his execute threshold he does very poor damage, thats the whole point. Pyke sets up his actual damage dealers and then goes on an execute spree. Its very difficult for pyke to be independant of his damage dealers without a massive lead
94372148 (NA)
: Why does Pyke need three forms of CC as a highly mobile assassin with a resetting true damage ult?
Because his damage is very low for an assassin and all of his abilities are incredibly telegraphed?
: No counterplay to Kayn
You could say the same thing for vladimir who drain tanks like rhaast or even mundo with his huge healing. If you dont buy executioners, mortal reminder or morellos you have no one to blame but yourself(and your team). Especially when the guy has a spirit visage to boost his healing and a warmogs+stoneplate sejuani to ult on.
: > [{quoted}](name=Fluffeh,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ekd6EMR0,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-03-26T22:17:27.186+0000) > > It changes his matchups? Who? The only top laner that creates terrain is ornn and thats a delayed cast at a fixed distance, ornn interrupting sion ult with his pillar is such an unlikely scenario i cannot imagine it impacting his winrate whatsoever. Is it a buff? Sure, it gives sion an option he didnt have previously but i dont think its unreasonable to have sion trade his ultimate for another champions basic ability(or a partial portion of taliyahs ult) its not like sion is crushing the game, he doesnt even have a 50% winrate which indicates that he could actually use some tangible buffs(though no tank toplane has at least a 50% winrate so hes not alone there) Since when? Have you forgotten about Yorick? I've stopped Sions ult with my W plenty of times(pretty easy).
> [{quoted}](name=MessyStuff,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ekd6EMR0,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-27T03:17:17.995+0000) > > Since when? Have you forgotten about Yorick? I've stopped Sions ult with my W plenty of times(pretty easy). Fair point , i did forget yorick
: Judgement Kayle
Theres no point to exclusive skins if they arent exclusive
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=dontspinbutwin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ekd6EMR0,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-03-26T17:12:26.623+0000) > > Just a quality of life change tbh, nothing game-changing. Just feels weird how ornn's stubby legs and head will break an anivia wall, but a fully charged sion ult could be stopped by trundle's e. That is not honest "quality of life change". That is straight out a buff that changes his matchups and how his games play out to his benefit.
> [{quoted}](name=Sona Ping,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ekd6EMR0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-26T17:46:37.370+0000) > > That is not honest "quality of life change". That is straight out a buff that changes his matchups and how his games play out to his benefit. It changes his matchups? Who? The only top laner that creates terrain is ornn and thats a delayed cast at a fixed distance, ornn interrupting sion ult with his pillar is such an unlikely scenario i cannot imagine it impacting his winrate whatsoever. Is it a buff? Sure, it gives sion an option he didnt have previously but i dont think its unreasonable to have sion trade his ultimate for another champions basic ability(or a partial portion of taliyahs ult) its not like sion is crushing the game, he doesnt even have a 50% winrate which indicates that he could actually use some tangible buffs(though no tank toplane has at least a 50% winrate so hes not alone there)
: QOL chogath
I agree that cho's execute indicator could be more visible, its absolutely miniscule and almost invisible mid teamfight.
: Plz don't nerf aftershock in this way, tank will suffer.
Reducing it to about the level of a cloth armor is just too harsh, i can agree that it needs a nerf but not this hard. Tanks arent in a great spot either. The only tanks with a 50% winrate(or above) are junglers and this change wont affect them all too much.
: > [{quoted}](name=HeeroTX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Z2bzBzWl,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-03-25T17:00:28.204+0000) > > I need to remember that I've told myself to dodge {{champion:141}} or else in the middle of loading I think "oh shit, I was supposed to dodge this" > Don't get me wrong, I've SEEN good ones, but 90% of the time they take WAY too long to come online and game is basically lost whenever my team's Kayn decides to do anything other than farm. The only way we'll succeed with him is if ALL my other teammates can at least hold level in a probable 4v5 for the first 15-20 mins, which is HIGHLY unlikely. kayn suffers from something similar to kayle, but with kayle she gets rewarded over time. kayn just... doesnt. he has to punch stuff.
> [{quoted}](name=BLACK REALM GOD,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Z2bzBzWl,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-25T17:45:59.992+0000) > > kayn suffers from something similar to kayle, but with kayle she gets rewarded over time. kayn just... doesnt. he has to punch stuff. Kayn post form is definitely a reward, hes very strong and he gets his form in 8-10 minutes rather than 15 like kayle.
: Personal opinion: season 9 has become the hardest one to carry and win games in
season 9 is the hardest to individually carry a game in because people are individually carrying games?
: Morgana and Kayle's 975 RP Skins are not up to standard.
Came to the forum to make this thread, literally every kayle skin including aetherwing are low effort as hell with the one exception of pentakill kayle. Even judgement kayle, the season 2 skin that riot could put some extra oomph into to reward their long time customers and fans is so fucking ugly with its bright yellow particles and deep teal and silver color palette
: Sexualization of a video game character, if not widely misplaced, is almost never a bad thing.
Its a "bad" thing in that if every character is sexualized it leads to a lot of visual boredom and inconsistencies. Characters like Miss fortune, evelynn, ahri have sexualization as a part of their character. Kaisa however has none of that. I dont give a damn about her massive ass or her cleavage, she looks like a super model and not the desperate survivor that shes supposed to be(her hair and makeup is more egregious than her physique for this, her personality as well is pretty shit. I actually fucking hate kai'sa) Ashe looks nothing like the other champions from the frejilord. In a silk skirt and croptop compared to all the metal and leather of her fellow champions.
Jaspers (EUW)
: He also gets to build as an assassin not a support, so that base Ult damage and now lethality scaling on his ult hurts even more. All AD assassins in ARAM have 47% or below win rate, he has 52% at the mo.
> [{quoted}](name=Jaspers,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9hcb2TVk,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-11-13T12:27:12.557+0000) > > He also gets to build as an assassin not a support, so that base Ult damage and now lethality scaling on his ult hurts even more. > > All AD assassins in ARAM have 47% or below win rate, he has 52% at the mo. "gets too"? Pyke was NERFED into building assassin items. Before he built tank.
mSticky (NA)
: Problems (and benefits?) with the 8.22 Pyke Changes (Lethality Pyke)
The changes really sharpened pyke. If pykes team ever falls behind he suddenly has a very difficult job as he cant actually use his abilities without tank stats and he cant execute chain if no one is low enough to execute. However hes much stronger on the offense as assassins tend to be(it feels kind of dirty ulting squishies at 50% hp who dont realize the danger theyre in) which makes this almost an even handed nerf/power shift. What good is a support thats only good if his team is already winning? Not that good. I didnt really consider that he might be better off in another lane as riot designed him pretty well to avoid solo lanes but that might be where he ends up with more time and testing, he's already down 2% in winrate.
Rioter Comments
: I'm excited to see how bad things get once the jungle exp is nerfed this preseason
I find it hilarious how the jungle as a whole is getting nerfed due to the highest performing champions in it. Were going to see a jungle diversity as garbage as adc diversity in the new season.
Moody P (NA)
: can volibear get a VFX update too
Its not like volibear is a VFX intensive champion, his lightning and roar look perfectly fine. The only thing that looks ugly is the lingering lightning on his paws in his ult duration. Plus do you really want more ugly ass amorphous colour smudges like mundo? His cleaver looks great but everything else? Yuck.
Eyesack (NA)
: Make Vi's Vault Breaker have a shield destroying effect similar to irelia's
: Can we please do something with Kai'sa?
49.50 is a good winrate? Darius had the exact same winrate before 8.19 and he just got multiple big buffs. Personally i wouldnt really be that against kaisa nerfs but only if the other 2 instapick carries(lucian and jhin) also receives nerfs
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Fluffeh,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=j25IEUn9,comment-id=000b00000000,timestamp=2018-08-17T23:15:41.072+0000) > > Its not what i think, it was revised by the WHO. Apparently regardless of whatever studies you read. I mean that may be one of the most politically motivated decisions out there. If you want to blindly follow shit because some organization classified it that way incorrectly, by all means go for it. You're free to follow blindly if you so please.
> [{quoted}](name=im still toxic,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=j25IEUn9,comment-id=000b000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-17T23:45:17.779+0000) > > I mean that may be one of the most politically motivated decisions out there. If you want to blindly follow shit because some organization classified it that way incorrectly, by all means go for it. You're free to follow blindly if you so please. "**some** organization"? are you kidding? If you've paid attention youd realize ive never actually spoken about what my stance on gender dysphoria is, ive spoken in facts. Because it is now, until further evidence and further studies disprove otherwise gender dysphoria is **not** a disorder to the world at large. Youre free to not like it of course but to doggedly state contrary is misleading at best and delusional at worst. Do you disagree with the meaning of words in the dictionary just because **some** organization wrote it?
: > [{quoted}](name=Fluffeh,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=j25IEUn9,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2018-08-17T22:11:59.600+0000) > > As of 2009 Gender dysphoria is no longer considered a disorder. Apparently all the suicide and depression is purely societal influence. There are studies done on this which take transgender individuals who are in a great and nurturing environment, and are called their preferred pronouns etc.. and those who are in terrible situations, and the suicidality of the two groups were basically equal. Also the transgender suicide rate is upwards of 40%, if you seriously think 40% (the national average is .016%) is due to societal influence, you're crazy and denying basic statistics and facts. There is no way societal influence is to blame for 2500x the suicide attempts in the transgender community. The only time in human history suicidality has ever been recorded that high was for Jews in nazi Germany. I find it very hard to believe societal influence is the main factor here. To be clear, I don't wish ill upon anybody, and hope the transgender community stops being bullied and those numbers drop. But to think it's no longer a disorder is just plain wrong.
> [{quoted}](name=im still toxic,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=j25IEUn9,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2018-08-17T23:03:35.885+0000) > > But to think it's no longer a disorder is just plain wrong. Its not what i think, it was revised by the WHO. Apparently regardless of whatever studies you read.
Ahpe (NA)
: Camille vs. Warwick | Lore
I dont doubt that camille would win the initial bout but she doesnt have full knowledge to the extent of warwicks modifications and a big part of what makes warwick, warwick is his durability. I could absolutely see camille leave warwick with enough wounds that no mortal creature should still live, likely at the loss of one of her tools(her grappling hooks or her shield) because warwick is a "champion" in his own right and then getting taken by surprise when he pushes past it and gets on top of her. ultimately theyre both hunters in their own right and it could be as simple as who finds who first. Though even despite that id consider it more likely that warwick would walk away from a loss than camille would. Zaun is no place for an injured piltover elite to be.
: Taliyah was initially conceived of as transgender by her DNA team.
> [{quoted}](name=im still toxic,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=j25IEUn9,comment-id=0000000100000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-08-17T21:34:41.387+0000) > > whatever, I'd prefer not to normalize a mental disorder for the sake of riot getting a few pats on the back. As of 2009 Gender dysphoria is no longer considered a disorder. Apparently all the suicide and depression is purely societal influence.
RiotLamz (NA)
: Favorite/least favorite Running animation in League
{{champion:432}} is probably my favorite, everything about him is very fluid and weightless and flows really well with how poofy his model is and the noises he makes, his signature "buhwowoah" has lows and high just like his movement. {{champion:31}} Is easily the lowest on my list, not only is it stiff on account of being an older champion but he waves his claws back and forth as he walks and he just ends up looking like a big dumb idiot despite being a city destroying eldritch monster. I actually bought dark star cho'gath specifically because it had a better walking animation that had him lumber forward like a dinosaur compared to his base animations.
Malak (NA)
: Akali Stalling with her smoke is really annoying
I dont know why they gave her "true" invisiblity. My only guess is that they wanted her to be able to towerdive but all it does is make it incredibly frustrating when abilities that apply TRUE sight dont function agaisnt this stealth champ and only this champ. It also means that she gets to zone the adc from the teamfight for 6 seconds lest they get instantly deleted and nobody can stop it, you cant even catch her out because she can slap it down and wait for her team and you just cant do anything about it.
Kelg (NA)
: Mordekaiser has fallen from OP.gg due to lack of play. Can Mordekaiser get some QoL power shifts?
No, no. Clearly ezreal needs the update! He has ONE ability that doesnt feel that rewarding and worst of all the poor baby has some stiff animations, we couldnt let him suffer any longer.
Rioter Comments
Kelg (NA)
: I like it (the idea of it at least). I feel like people would buy it more if they lowered the ap to 80-100~ and gave it like 200-300~ hp.
> [{quoted}](name=Kelg,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VN1ahUlN,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-05T15:30:26.511+0000) > > I like it (the idea of it at least). I feel like people would buy it more if they lowered the ap to 80-100~ and gave it like 200-300~ hp. I think this would be a good place to take the item. The reason nobody buys it is becuase it simply doesnt compete with the other raw damage items due to the inconsistency but not only do AP bruisers/tank mages have less to choose from theyre often short ranged and would greatly appreciate the speed buff.
: > [{quoted}](name=Gabytele,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gUTEld00,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-05T00:21:15.921+0000) > > At least someone remembers them, they were really fun and added some flavour to the boots not just picking attack speed boots for adc and magic penetration for mages etc. ; - ; > {{sticker:sg-janna}} Probably got removed thanks to Ghostcrawler. Was probably too hard to figue out for the Casuals.
> [{quoted}](name=Blåbæret,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gUTEld00,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-08-05T00:22:13.985+0000) > > Probably got removed thanks to Ghostcrawler. Was probably too hard to figue out for the Casuals. Are you being ironic?
: Riot released the fourth Darkin without us knowing.
SSmotzer (NA)
: Who has the Poorest Defined Archetype?
Kaisa is an abomination of design honestly. Her aesthetics are complete nonsense compared to her backstory. also correct me if im wrong but doesnt karthus Q bubbles scream or moan or something along those lines? That could be considered singing with how often he uses that ability
: Bringing Cho'Gath into league's lore.
{{champion:31}} Has very little personality traits and outside of his feast mechanic but even despite his very few voice lines he does get one point across that i feel you missed. Cho'gath unlike any other void creature _Hates_. "You are such hideous creatures" "You are a scourge upon the world" "there will be no end to your suffering" Cho'gath gets more personal with his prey than any other void spawn, khazix displays smugness and joy at killing and consuming, velkoz is analytical as ever but still expresses calm superiority over destroying their frail forms, kogmaw merely consumes and reksai is hardly any different This is best exemplified in his taunt which ill link because i just love how he emphasizes himself with those last three words https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/5/5f/Greenterror.taunt.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20120615005715 I feel that if and when cho'gath changes, hatred has to be his defining characteristic. Hatred that he was a common spawn, hatred at the world that he's trapped on and what would be interesting is hatred at his fellow void spawn. _____ Edit: I havent read his biography in literal years and funnily enough hes specifically stated to be a creature of malice. Guess that means they did a good job.
: DOTA turrets are stronger than league turrets. Anyone who's played it knows
> [{quoted}](name=Popperofski,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hetNEEdr,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-08-03T10:48:01.575+0000) > > DOTA turrets are stronger than league turrets. > Anyone who's played it knows Thats really, really, REALLY not the case and speaks more to your inexperience with the game(unless youre only talking about the towers durability and not its capacity to save you by dealing damage). I play a fair bit of dota and i earnestly cant understand why league players want turrets buffed, its not going to help in the majority of cases and only serves to hurt tanks whos job IS to tank turret. Thats only considering the damage by the way, that doesnt even include the fact that dota turrets wont aggro you unless youre the closest target or you issue an attack command on the enemy hero(which means when you push a wave under tower you can hit your opponent with spells without retribution)
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