Rioter Comments
: Trolls in game and in champ select.
Thank you guys so much for the help!! Very appreciated! :D
zPOOPz (NA)
: You should start by describing exactly what those trolls did. You have your own definition of what comstitute a troll. I have mine. The 10 guys who reply to your thread have theirs. Rito also have their own definition. At the end of the day, it's what Rito defines as a troll matters. But that's beside the point. It would be easier to discuss if you can tell us what those trolls did.
> [{quoted}](name=zPOOPz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GmiQbEXw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-26T19:58:51.169+0000) > > You should start by describing exactly what those trolls did. You have your own definition of what comstitute a troll. I have mine. The 10 guys who reply to your thread have theirs. Rito also have their own definition. At the end of the day, it's what Rito defines as a troll matters. But that's beside the point. It would be easier to discuss if you can tell us what those trolls did. Thank you very much for your help. Usually they just ban someone's champion, then the person who got their champ banned goes ahead and bans their champ, whatever. My most recent champ select was different though. So I was playing Mid/Jungle, I got Jungle. There were our mid lane and bottom lane, bottom lane picked Sylas ADC, so our mid lane banned Sylas (Got banned by enemy anyway) and said 'Pick a real adc' (Not sounding as rude though) and then our bottom lane picked THEIR Zed, and so our mid lane who was gonna pick Zed chose Nunu with Cleanse and Ghost, so I just dodged. Edit: I haven't had very many inters/afkers, mainly flamers. Edit 2: The mid lane Nunu said he was gonna int and that riot doesn't even check reports anyway so I'm assuming he was saying that he wasn't gonna get banned, plus the bottom lane said 'iam troll' and kept insulting the midlane. [PLZ NO NAME-AND-SHAME - ULANOPO]
: Did you commit offences like these before? Because I see no logical reason that you would've gotten perma-banned if you were toxic only 1-2 times and got yourself a chat restriction or possibly a 2 week ban. Also I hope the best for your grandfather.
> [{quoted}](name=xXItsZoeyXx,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=G2c1LGHU,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-04-26T19:52:37.779+0000) > > Did you commit offences like these before? Because I see no logical reason that you would've gotten perma-banned if you were toxic only 1-2 times and got yourself a chat restriction or possibly a 2 week ban. Also I hope the best for your > grandfather. Oh wait, I understand what happened now. I didn't read that thoroughly. Listen dude, afking isn't very okay. What if it was an honest mistake? I've never afk'd because I got my first camp stolen, I either go clear my other camp or get scuttle, it's not really that hard. (I'm pretty sure wolves give good exp too, enough for level 2, but you see my point) Who cares if you lose? You would have a lot more GOOD games in the future. One game doesn't really mean a lot. You could have a 7 game winstreak and promote to another rank! Edit: Sorry if I came off as hostile. That wasn't my honest intention.
iChimp (NA)
: I'm very sorry
Did you commit offences like these before? Because I see no logical reason that you would've gotten perma-banned if you were toxic only 1-2 times and got yourself a chat restriction or possibly a 2 week ban. Also I hope the best for your grandfather.
Rioter Comments
: Getting suspended was the best thing to happen to me in League.
Absolutely incredible story dude. Games should be played for fun, not to constantly rage at because in champ select there were 2 trolls, and in other games there are people who just int or afk. I really respect how you handled this whole thing. :) I hope the best for you. Thanks for sharing your story!
: What Jungler can I carry with?
Thanks for the tips everyone! But I have one last question, is it possible to carry as Evelynn? Seems like it so far tbh.
: > [{quoted}](name=xXItsZoeyXx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nJd38w19,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-01-18T15:50:56.980+0000) > > Well, my main pool is Kha'Zix, Rengar, Kindred, Evelynn, Warwick, Cho'Gath, and maybe a few others. How do those sound? > > Edit: I also love Pyke Jungle. > Edit 2: I also play Sejuani sometimes. Sounds like you need to pick three (A Tank, a duelist, and maybe an assassin because you like them) and stick to them
> [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nJd38w19,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-01-18T16:07:55.483+0000) > > Sounds like you need to pick three (A Tank, a duelist, and maybe an assassin because you like them) and stick to them Well, my main assasain is Kha'Zix, my main tank is Cho'Gath, but idk 'bout a duelist.
: may i ask who your main is outside of jungle, and what your favorite items are? maybe i can find something similar to your playstyle, because that's super important Heres some broad shit {{champion:24}} and {{champion:104}} are timeless kings of the jungle, and they are always floating in and out of high priority ban status {{champion:5}} almost never banned, almost the same level of threat... not quite as good though {{champion:48}} {{champion:77}} when they're strong go for it, they can definitely carry games if you get used to it {{champion:23}} Never banned really, still a fucking pain in the ass every single time he shows up. He does the thing that yorick does, you sneeze when he's not in vision and all the sudden he's taken two towers, rift, dragon, and baron I really do reccomend tryn over the rest, but the cool thing about 5 of these six champs is that they're rather mechanically similar and also have similar item paths these are the baseline super carry junglers because they can do it all For more advanced shit if you want to be able to play other lanes Top/jungle {{champion:164}} {{champion:92}} mid/jg {{champion:91}} {{champion:163}} {{champion:63}} (He has special interactions with monsters and once you learn his first clear you'll be surprised, he's 100% viable and can compete with most meta junglers) Adc/jg {{champion:29}} {{champion:203}} Support/jg {{champion:111}} {{champion:113}} {{champion:427}} The paragons Assassin: {{champion:76}} split pusher: {{champion:23}} CC god {{champion:154}} vs {{champion:113}} The devil {{champion:19}} (fed warwick scares everyone and i think he has the option for late game builds as well) The support {{champion:427}} The marksman {{champion:203}} The Mage {{champion:79}} vs {{champion:163}} Best OTP champs in JG: If you want to just learn only one champ that you can take elsewhere, or that you can play into any matchup assuming you learn how to play your pick intimately {{champion:203}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:154}} {{champion:76}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:131}} {{champion:104}} Good off mete junglers that can actually jungle well if you tweak the core items a bit or learn what makes them good {{champion:201}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:131}} {{champion:36}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:81}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:126}} {{champion:202}} {{champion:429}} {{champion:43}} {{champion:30}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:10}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:89}} {{champion:54}} {{champion:57}} {{champion:82}} {{champion:2}} {{champion:516}} {{champion:80}} {{champion:78}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:421}} {{champion:497}} {{champion:143}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:4}} {{champion:44}} {{champion:223}} {{champion:37}} {{champion:14}} {{champion:27}} {{champion:98}}
> [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nJd38w19,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-01-18T15:37:56.119+0000) > > may i ask who your main is outside of jungle, and what your favorite items are? maybe i can find something similar to your playstyle, because that's super important > > > Heres some broad shit > > {{champion:24}} and {{champion:104}} are timeless kings of the jungle, and they are always floating in and out of high priority ban status > > > > {{champion:5}} almost never banned, almost the same level of threat... not quite as good though > > > {{champion:48}} {{champion:77}} when they're strong go for it, they can definitely carry games if you get used to it > > > {{champion:23}} Never banned really, still a fucking pain in the ass every single time he shows up. He does the thing that yorick does, you sneeze when he's not in vision and all the sudden he's taken two towers, rift, dragon, and baron > > > I really do reccomend tryn over the rest, but the cool thing about 5 of these six champs is that they're rather mechanically similar and also have similar item paths > > these are the baseline super carry junglers because they can do it all > > > > > > For more advanced shit if you want to be able to play other lanes > > Top/jungle > {{champion:164}} {{champion:92}} > > mid/jg > {{champion:91}} {{champion:163}} {{champion:63}} (He has special interactions with monsters and once you learn his first clear you'll be surprised, he's 100% viable and can compete with most meta junglers) > > Adc/jg > {{champion:29}} {{champion:203}} > > Support/jg > {{champion:111}} {{champion:113}} {{champion:427}} > > > > > > > > > > The paragons > > Assassin: > {{champion:76}} > > split pusher: > {{champion:23}} > > CC god > {{champion:154}} vs {{champion:113}} > > The devil > {{champion:19}} (fed warwick scares everyone and i think he has the option for late game builds as well) > > The support > {{champion:427}} > > The marksman > {{champion:203}} > > > The Mage > {{champion:79}} vs {{champion:163}} > > > > Best OTP champs in JG: If you want to just learn only one champ that you can take elsewhere, or that you can play into any matchup assuming you learn how to play your pick intimately > {{champion:203}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:154}} {{champion:76}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:131}} {{champion:104}} > > > Good off mete junglers that can actually jungle well if you tweak the core items a bit or learn what makes them good > {{champion:201}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:131}} {{champion:36}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:81}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:126}} {{champion:202}} {{champion:429}} {{champion:43}} {{champion:30}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:10}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:89}} {{champion:54}} {{champion:57}} {{champion:82}} {{champion:2}} {{champion:516}} {{champion:80}} {{champion:78}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:421}} {{champion:497}} {{champion:143}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:4}} {{champion:44}} {{champion:223}} {{champion:37}} {{champion:14}} {{champion:27}} {{champion:98}} Well, my main pool is Kha'Zix, Rengar, Kindred, Evelynn, Warwick, Cho'Gath, and maybe a few others. How do those sound? Edit: I also love Pyke Jungle. Edit 2: I also play Sejuani sometimes.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Apol1o,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=sGxQ7Ovo,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-01-17T11:13:53.786+0000) > > Apol1o: braindead > Apol1o: its a fair assumption you dont know how to gank > Apol1o: you'll end up reportederino > Apol1o: we're done anyway > Apol1o: lol > Apol1o: hahahahahahahhahahhahhaah > Apol1o: ff111555555555115151515151515 > Apol1o: lololololokokasewirghnabghbgf uwFGH A8W\ > Apol1o: =\234\ 24 > Apol1o: GHAW > Apol1o: \ > Apol1o: wait you ulted yourself > Apol1o: but not me? > Apol1o: L()LOLO)JEG_IAHEDGVI_ABHDVBADipv > Apol1o: [J > Apol1o: =[bo=[WNG > Apol1o: YOU ACTUALLY CANT REPORT ME > Apol1o: LMAO > Apol1o: lmfao > Apol1o: hahahahahahah > Apol1o: can i ping you being 1/4 > Apol1o: 1/5 > Apol1o: hahaha so cliche > Apol1o: now we got the no voters > Apol1o: lol typical ranked stomp > Apol1o: lmao > Apol1o: so perfect > Apol1o: lmfao > Apol1o: you're like > Apol1o: a snapshjot > Apol1o: LOl sorake > Apol1o: gets this kill > Apol1o: so cute > Apol1o: this shyv has been mega toxic since level 23 > Apol1o: 2 > Apol1o: you guys need everything spoonfed huh which part of these lines was intended to help your team win the game?
> [{quoted}](name=CharDeeMcDenniz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=sGxQ7Ovo,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-17T11:24:31.686+0000) > > which part of these lines was intended to help your team win the game? Oh wow, I didn't really see these parts.
: Yes. Onto the next. {{sticker:sona-playing}}
> [{quoted}](name=ı Sona ı,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=lZ0sEEGx,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-17T11:10:02.584+0000) > > Yes. > > Onto the next. > > {{sticker:sona-playing}} Yeah, it's in the past, just a bit annoying, I just wanna get everyone else's thoughts and what happened to them too! But thanks for replying nonetheless.
Rioter Comments
Saezio (EUNE)
: The day before yesterday I had a player in my game that straight up admitted in chat they did not want to win the game (they were staying just outside the cusp of the fight and only went in after the other 4 people were dead). But I got no instant feedback and the player was not punished either :) Even the guy that was premade with him ditched him and joined me for the next game. He said "That's just how he is" and "I would rather play with him than alone"
> [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=YtPF3hQ8,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-01-16T12:22:24.860+0000) > > The day before yesterday I had a player in my game that straight up admitted in chat they did not want to win the game (they were staying just outside the cusp of the fight and only went in after the other 4 people were dead). But I got no instant feedback and the player was not punished either :) > Even the guy that was premade with him ditched him and joined me for the next game. He said "That's just how he is" and "I would rather play with him than alone" Sorry that happened man!!
: Bot lane inting after Lux wouldn't let Ryze solo baron
Rioter Comments
: Can I climb with Warwick/Cho'Gath?
Thanks so much for the replies, guys! I was worried the strategy I was using was inefficient, again, thank you! You guys made me so much more confident about this :)
: The champion that's best to climb with is the champion you like playing every game. If you're not enjoying the champion you're playing, you're not going to do well. So ask yourself, 'do I enjoy playing these champions?'
> [{quoted}](name=Fear the Kayn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BzKEplvM,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-05-21T01:31:11.712+0000) > > The champion that's best to climb with is the champion you like playing every game. If you're not enjoying the champion you're playing, you're not going to do well. > > So ask yourself, 'do I enjoy playing these champions?' Fair enough, thanks!
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nViper (NA)
: So Where did you end up in Season 8
I got Bronze 1 in season 7 and 8 from my placement matches and I want to kill myself
Asamas (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=xXItsZoeyXx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w3Fqrxj0,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-01-10T22:50:20.357+0000) > > I meant on the PBE btw but if that IS the scheduled time for it on the PBE then rip, but thank you anyway! :D Oh... Yeah the PBE... The things are already on PBE...
Well now they are but they weren't anymore now I'm just curious when they're REALLY gonna come it but the last comment you sent was probably right anyway.
Asamas (EUNE)
: The patch is 8.3 so after 4 weeks +-. There is no word on a new gamemode but the lunar revel is said to be patch 8.3. WW skin will probably be one week after the patch goes live... I guess. That is what Riot love to do. I hope that was a good answer... And no, I won't hurt you.
> [{quoted}](name=Asamas,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w3Fqrxj0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-01-10T22:45:27.212+0000) > > The patch is 8.3 so after 4 weeks +-. There is no word on a new gamemode but the lunar revel is said to be patch 8.3. > > I hope that was a good answer... And no, I won't hurt you. I meant on the PBE btw but if that IS the scheduled time for it on the PBE then rip, but thank you anyway! :D
Rioter Comments
Weedbro (NA)
: So, you've decided to CHOO CHOO RIDE THE POWER TRAIN. You've chosen a jungler who is actually pretty strong. GUESS WHAT THAT MEANS. You're going to get nerfed or reworked, 100% fucking guaranteed, like virtually all junglers who are strong. Ivern used to be the strongest jungler in the game and there was really nothing you could do about it, he'd just take your shit and peace out. Then Riot finally came to their senses and were like "goddamn" and nerfed the *fuck* out of Ivern, I mean, they even took him down to 325 MS, lol. They made him literally the slowest jungler in the entire game, that's how hard they nerfed him.
> [{quoted}](name=Weedbro,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xA5A9x2d,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-12-25T09:54:32.758+0000) > > So, you've decided to CHOO CHOO RIDE THE POWER TRAIN. You've chosen a jungler who is actually pretty strong. GUESS WHAT THAT MEANS. > > You're going to get nerfed or reworked, 100% fucking guaranteed, like virtually all junglers who are strong. Ivern used to be the strongest jungler in the game and there was really nothing you could do about it, he'd just take your shit and peace out. Then Riot finally came to their senses and were like "goddamn" and nerfed the *fuck* out of Ivern, I mean, they even took him down to 325 MS, lol. They made him literally the slowest jungler in the entire game, that's how hard they nerfed him. First of all, Warwick's base movement speed is shit. Second of all, that was kinda harsh lol. Third of all, I'm aware that he's going to get messed with soon, I just don't want them to do it like RIGHT NOW. Oh and I didn't know that happend to Ivern, I don't play him lol. Just note that I don't give a FUCK about what happens to Warwick, I'm always going to main him, but good luck and have fun, Summoner! :)
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Broporo (NA)
: Hmmmmmm so the way you mention it, it kinda sounds like this is only happening when you play as Xayah maybe? There's a chance this might be related to missing or damaged game files for her, so try running a quick repair to see if that helps and test it in a custom/practice match to avoid any possible leaverbusters. If that doesn't do the trick, be sure to check back on your ticket with the techs, they should be able to look through your game logs to see exactly what's going wrong.
> [{quoted}](name=Broporo,realm=NA,application-id=osqw6G4M,discussion-id=VToEEi3E,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-06T01:54:48.457+0000) > > HMMMMMMM so the way you mention it, it kinda sounds like this is only happening when you play as Xayah maybe? There's a chance this might be related to missing or damaged game files for her, so try running a quick repair to see if that helps and test it in a custom/practice match to avoid any possible leaverbusters. > > If that doesn't do the trick, be sure to check back on your ticket with the techs, they should be able to look through your game logs to see exactly what's going wrong. The game stopped disconnecting me, but the game tried to repair itself WHILE I was in the loading screen, rendering me unable to play with my Discord friends. (This didn't ONLY happen to me with Xayah, btw.)
Broporo (NA)
: What exactly is going wrong that's not letting you play? 41-51 Ping isn't too bad, and that small increase could just be due to ISP traffic around that time of day. Let me know what kind of problems you're having that make it so you can't play.
> [{quoted}](name=Broporo,realm=NA,application-id=osqw6G4M,discussion-id=VToEEi3E,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-12-05T23:13:33.476+0000) > > What exactly is going wrong that&#x27;s not letting you play? 41-51 Ping isn&#x27;t too bad, and that small increase could just be due to ISP traffic around that time of day. > > Let me know what kind of problems you&#x27;re having that make it so you can&#x27;t play. Around 10-15-20 minutes in, I get the "Trying to reconnect..." message, sometimes I don't even load in. (This also has happend to me when in custom games, Idk why...) Kinda afraid of getting Leaverbuster, so I stopped playing. I sent a Support Ticket, but I have yet to get a respone from Riot. Again, I've tried using the Hextech Repair Tool, it STILL didn't work after reinstalling League. My Ping is NEVER high unless my game is kinda delayed. This happend a game RIGHT AFTER winning a game of Xayah, once I started playing her again with my friends, this stuff began happening. All help will be appreciated, thanks in advance. <3
Rioter Comments
: As far as I know, he's correct. Being on the PBE is a privilege, and they don't tend to take too kindly to all the people being jerks since it was opened up there. If you are active on the PBE Boards, you will see a bunch of threads full of the long term PBE testers complaining about the new members, and begging for the sign-ups to be closed, and the people to be kicked off.
> [{quoted}](name=VentressRedeemed,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pqFVlpF1,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-27T19:11:22.902+0000) > > As far as I know, he&#x27;s correct. Being on the PBE is a privilege, and they don&#x27;t tend to take too kindly to all the people being jerks since it was opened up there. If you are active on the PBE Boards, you will see a bunch of threads full of the long term PBE testers complaining about the new members, and begging for the sign-ups to be closed, and the people to be kicked off. Okay, thanks for the info. :)
: From what I recall reading, there are no chat restrictions. It's only permaban/removal from the PBE with no repeal. So I'd take it needs to be a consistent and noticeable pattern by that server.
> [{quoted}](name=GeminiRune,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pqFVlpF1,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-27T12:43:29.921+0000) > > From what I recall reading, there are no chat restrictions. It&#x27;s only permaban/removal from the PBE with no repeal. So I&#x27;d take it needs to be a consistent and noticeable pattern by that server. Oh damn, that's actually kinda harsh, tbh... xD
: Afaik, reports still function the same way on PBE.
> [{quoted}](name=EvilDustMan,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pqFVlpF1,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-11-27T09:40:50.370+0000) > > Afaik, reports still function the same way on PBE. It really doesn't, tbh. I reported this one person who was HELLA toxic and flamey and guess what, he didn't get banned/chat restricted... And yes, I went into more detail in the report thingy. c:
Rioter Comments
MrMinish (EUNE)
: The reason why Blind Pick should be removed from the game
Blind Pick is usually the place to get some S' (Because the people who play it are extremely bad at the game, lul), yes, people will call your lane after you and still take it and not get banned... but it's usually a GREAT place to farm up to get your Mastery. But yes, it is a terrible idea and Draft should be FTP in. ;3
nm1010 (NA)
: > Riot, I know I main Fizz https://i.gyazo.com/682535269efc40707e771c53769375c1.png Ah but I see you do have a lot of games in normals https://i.gyazo.com/a76b3e4aaa93e4708aa1cf85453d18ff.png ~60 cs per game with a negative winrate, I definitely think you understand this champion completely and should be held as council on them.
> [{quoted}](name=nm1010,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5zfXbfWE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-11-22T14:47:19.287+0000) > > https://i.gyazo.com/682535269efc40707e771c53769375c1.png > > Ah but I see you do have a lot of games in normals > > https://i.gyazo.com/a76b3e4aaa93e4708aa1cf85453d18ff.png > > ~60 cs per game with a negative winrate, I definitely think you understand this champion completely and should be held as council on them. Hush, child... >.>
: He's been #1 ban priority since Season 4.
> [{quoted}](name=Stars Shaper,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5zfXbfWE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-11-22T09:05:52.237+0000) > > He&#x27;s been #1 ban priority since Season 4. Hot damn!
: Pardon my lack of skill, but I can think of one match-up where Fizz becomes useless: Azir I fed my ass off harder than someone who is actually inting. the other day. Azirs number say, as long as he has mana, he can have at least one soldier up _**permanently**_. So I'm fine with Fizz since has at least 1 hard counter. Although it many other match-ups and can see fizz being a problem. Fizz has quite a few strong points, but his 1 weakness remains: he wasts his q and e, hes a sitting duck. Anyway some points that I think makes Fizz who he is: * ~~Cancer e~~ * He has a strong all- in, loss of poke to make up for it though. * He can 2 shot someone with his r. Has to be a fairly large distance away from them though. * He flashed away from you? He's just setting up a ultimate to fly farther, but losing flash in the process. In the right hands, Fizz is complete cancer. In the wrong hands, ~~as with all assassin players in bronze~~ he's just free gold.
> [{quoted}](name=Tails9016,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5zfXbfWE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-11-22T01:02:49.384+0000) > > Pardon my lack of skill, but I can think of one match-up where Fizz becomes useless: Azir > > I fed my ass off harder than someone who is actually inting. the other day. > Azirs number say, as long as he has mana, he can have at least one soldier up _**permanently**_. > > So I&#x27;m fine with Fizz since has at least 1 hard counter. Although it many other match-ups and can see fizz being a problem. > > Fizz has quite a few strong points, but his 1 weakness remains: he wasts his q and e, hes a sitting duck. > > Anyway some points that I think makes Fizz who he is: > > * ~~Cancer e~~ > * He has a strong all- in, loss of poke to make up for it though. > * He can 2 shot someone with his r. Has to be a fairly large distance away from them though. > * He flashed away from you? He&#x27;s just setting up a ultimate to fly farther, but losing flash in the process. > > In the right hands, Fizz is complete cancer. In the wrong hands, ~~as with all assassin players in bronze~~ he&#x27;s just free gold. This is true. 0_0
Eggbread (NA)
: Tank, but you don't play him like a Tank at all. You don't initiate or try to CC someone like a Tank, you just use your immense health pool to survive through everything while you snowball ahead with the infinitely scaling damage on your E and R and the health scaling damage of R. Q and W are mainly just for additional disruption or to make you have some use when behind. {{item:3111}} {{item:3800}} {{item:3001}} {{item:3083}} {{item:3193}} {{item:3075}} This is typically the build you have for Cho'Gath with each item having an obvious purpose. As Tank Cho'Gath you basically have to perfect the art of being a sneaky Godzilla that does as he pleases. Outmaneuver the enemy at all times.
> [{quoted}](name=Wuq,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=My6lhPyo,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-11-22T00:21:02.283+0000) > > Tank, but you don&#x27;t play him like a Tank at all. You don&#x27;t initiate or try to CC someone like a Tank, you just use your immense health pool to survive through everything while you snowball ahead with the infinitely scaling damage on your E and R and the health scaling damage of R. Q and W are mainly just for additional disruption or to make you have some use when behind. > > {{item:3111}} {{item:3800}} {{item:3001}} {{item:3083}} {{item:3193}} {{item:3075}} > This is typically the build you have for Cho&#x27;Gath with each item having an obvious purpose. As Tank Cho&#x27;Gath you basically have to perfect the art of being a sneaky Godzilla that does as he pleases. Outmaneuver the enemy at all times. ...I love Godzilla... xD But this is very interesting, nonetheless.
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Yago (NA)
: AP Cho'gath is better. Why? Cho'gath lacks the traditionally short cooldowns and reliable crowd control to actually function as a tank. He cannot engage like Sejuani, Malphite, Amumu, Zac, Leona, Braum, Ornn or even Rammus, and even with his E and his Stoneplate + Feast combo he usually does less damage than most of those champions. If he does not get fed enough to one shot with Feast, his target will survive and Cho'gath will be useless for the next minute. He lacks options to peel for his allies, which is extremely apparent when compared to champions like Galio, Maokai, Braum, and Poppy. To make matters worse, he is incredibly easy to kite, and, sadly, even with high resistances, his infinitely stacking health does not matter thanks to the plethora of easily itemizible % HP damage in the game. There's also the problem of where to lane tank Cho'gath. If you take him top, you likely have to run Teleport, but Cho'gath has relatively little ability to make use of the Summoner Spell thanks to his poor options in ganking with it and his fairly weak splitpushing. If you run Tank Cho'gath in the jungle, your team has little to no early pressure, and Cho'gath is denied access to a better gold stream. If you run him mid you have denied your team of a more effective source of damage, utility, and waveclear. He also does not roam very well to assist other lanes. While AP Cho'gath still has some of the same weaknesses, he has less overall and has greater strengths. For example, the monster mage's large health bar becomes an asset to protect him from assassins and burst damage rather than a liability for your team as a result of an enemy's Blade of the Ruined King. As AP Cho'gath itemizes more mana and fulfills a different role on a team than a Tank Cho'gath, his Q and W can be used more frequently and are less punishing to miss. AP Cho'gath has an easier time fitting into a team composition, as you are able to play to his strengths, rather than trying to make him something he is not.
> [{quoted}](name=Yago,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=My6lhPyo,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-11-21T15:21:19.377+0000) > While AP Cho&#x27;gath still has some of the same weaknesses, he has less overall and has greater strengths. For example, the monster mage&#x27;s large health bar becomes an asset to protect him from assassins and burst damage rather than a liability for your team as a result of an enemy&#x27;s Blade of the Ruined King. As AP Cho&#x27;gath itemizes more mana and fulfills a different role on a team than a Tank Cho&#x27;gath, his Q and W can be used more frequently and are less punishing to miss. AP Cho&#x27;gath has an easier time fitting into a team composition, as you are able to play to his strengths, rather than trying to make him something he is not. This is true.
: Tank Cho'Gath is my preference. The raw amount of health he can stack with his ultimate combined with high resistance items such as thornmail make him arguably the tankiest champion in the game when fed. And due to his ult's health scaling, he can still hit quite hard even while building tank.
> [{quoted}](name=Laughing Fish,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=My6lhPyo,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-11-21T06:53:09.220+0000) > > Tank Cho&#x27;Gath is my preference. The raw amount of health he can stack with his ultimate combined with high resistance items such as thornmail make him arguably the tankiest champion in the game when fed. And due to his ult&#x27;s health scaling, he can still hit quite hard even while building tank. This is extremely helpful, thank you!
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