: This is it. We've reached the pinnacle of jungling.
yeah but for them to do that theyre giving up a combat summoner and a gold efficient item in lane for early game on 2 extra people
: Baron Nashor Kill Quest
"People not playing the game how I want them to waahhh! QQ Ban them for baby"
: (Disability Help) Need advice on one-handed mouse setup.
Can your left side perform any function without looking at it? Even if you had like one button for your left hand?
: Some Future Challenge Ideas
{{champion:75}} v {{champion:58}} and {{champion:121}} v {{champion:107}} obv Id rather have a new game mode rather than just missions
JudoBelt (NA)
: I can't carry as jungle
Focus more on objectives then. If hes adamant about fighting and getting kills then he'll be where the enemies are leaving you free to push towers. Dont bother grouping w people who only want to fight and do nothing else. Pick champs who can chunk down towers and arent reliant on an ally to be there to be efficient in low elo
needHymn (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=ForFoxSakes,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wNQtnZ5A,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-07-13T17:22:46.503+0000) > > None of those are smurfs. They have that winrate for that champ, not overall win rate when they have a shit ton of games played to be ~50% W:L just to be low silver while having terrible CS and KDA > > The only thing I can see is that you were probably boosted to be Gold last season yet hardstuck Silver 4 now 500 games in I didn't say they were all smurfs. I said it picks either smurfs against me, or players who are currently playing a champ at high win rate. Doesn't matter if they're overall is 50%. The system knows that they're currently maining a champ with 60% or whatever win rate. That's what matters right now, and it picks them to be against me because it's detecting that I'm also high win rate on several champs. Also, I've never been boosted, I got gold 4 last year I think was the highest I got, and been nearly gold about 3 times since. Yet, then I'll drop all the way back down to bronze. Yes, to bronze, or at least silver 5 with 0 LP and bronze MMR. Because of 50 absolutely unwinnable games in a row or whatever. Thats happened about 4 times now in the last 1.5 years or so, the full gold to brozne swing. Very frustrating. But since my last big swing, I went into training for about 6 months and had a lot of coaching from actual pros. I've improved massively, so much so that honestly none of my last 500 games even matter, I'm so much better now than I was then. And yet, despite being so much better, all that I've seen is that now, my enemies have also gotten way better. So nothing's changed and I'm still struggling in silver just like I was before I had all this coaching. So either every single silver player in the world got way better along with me, or, the match maker detected that I improved so it put better / smurfs against me to "balance" the two teams.
Matchmaking isnt based on champion's win loss when matching is done first then you pick you champ. Your claim is totally ass backwards So then just pick your most reliable winrate champ then, what's the problem? Looks like the bigger issues are your builds, summoner spell choice, and runes. Doing dumb shit like electrocute amumu or teleport+smite or fleet footwork mundo or jungle morg already handicaps your team yet you're bitching about it as if it's the opponent and matchmaking's fault NAOPGG says u were G5 0LP not G4. If you're really that hardstuck getting to gold then silver is where your real plateau is. Every season I just play for rewards, get to gold then play other accts to gold in under 60 games most of the time. If you know how to move out then you will. Look at your issues before crying about others cockblocking you. There's no acceptable reason to drop from "almost gold" so you claim down to S5, but that too is a lie when the progress chart shows your slow climb hardstuck S4-S3 In your entire match history I dont see you using a single champion correctly
needHymn (NA)
: What I dislike about the match maker: it distinguishes between negative winrate silver, and positive
None of those are smurfs. They have that winrate for that champ, not overall win rate when they have a shit ton of games played to be ~50% W:L just to be low silver while having terrible CS and KDA The only thing I can see is that you were probably boosted to be Gold last season yet hardstuck Silver 4 now 500 games in
Kags (NA)
: Can we talk about Smite, and Jungle?
Ive only ever forgotten smite once in mutliple seasons but I'm a jg main. When that happens I alt F4 in the loading screen and allow my team to remake and eat a leaver penalty
: Has anyone carried themselves from B5 to Silver in this Season as Support?
I think getting to B5 is a major feat in itself Tried to get there on other accts and its near impossible
: Best ARURF items.
nah. best are the {{item:3057}} items even on champs that never build it normally for how much you can spam you'll get nonstop procs {{item:3078}} {{item:3100}} {{item:3025}}
: > [{quoted}](name=ForFoxSakes,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aPq9OIeI,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-07-09T15:49:15.696+0000) > > You legit didnt do enough. Kills means nothing when you dont use it to do anything meaningful > > 1. 7 wards placed in 35 min..... you were a big problem of why people get picked off by doing nothing to help with vision. WW was their only useful one who cant be everywhere at once and you didnt pressure where he wasnt at > 2. 2nd bot tower was still up while it looks like trynd was hard splitting top you didnt shove other lanes and most of the game you didnt even cross the river > 3. Terrible CS. If you were getting ahead from kills you weren't using it to pick up free CS to get further ahead > 4. 1.5k objective damage.......... 1 I agree with this i do need to improve here. What am I specifically missing with the warding does anyone know any good ward guides. I know I need to improve with this but whats the best approach. I have yet to find a good ward guide that its recent. 2-4 Well its harder to farm with battle mages even QT farms bad with Swain bot. Should I just do adcs at low elo aka jinx? Its either be a glass cannon that dies or a battle mage with poor cs. Any input is much appreciated but I am still after solutions not just what my issues are. I have slight ego like most bronze but i am for the most part self aware of my weaknesses and strengths.
It's not hard to farm on mages. I see most low elo players just spam their spells to rush down the wave but you need to do the opposite of what what ADCs do who use autos to last hit, on mages you auto to prime the minions so your spells can do the last hitting. Swains Q makes it super easy to CS multiple minions per cast if you prime them properly you dont tilt as much when you're focusing on working on yourself rather than watching what your allies are doing
: How to prevent tilt? (check match history)
You legit didnt do enough. Kills means nothing when you dont use it to do anything meaningful 1. 7 wards placed in 35 min..... you were a big problem of why people get picked off by doing nothing to help with vision. WW was their only useful one who cant be everywhere at once and you didnt pressure where he wasnt at 2. 2nd bot tower was still up while it looks like trynd was hard splitting top you didnt shove other lanes and most of the game you didnt even cross the river 3. Terrible CS. If you were getting ahead from kills you werent using it to pick up free CS to get further ahead 4. 1.5k objective damage..........
: Buying BE with VS tokens
not in multiples of 5 if people are getting them in 8s from buying stuff with RP
Rioter Comments
needHymn (NA)
: Surely this Nidalee is scripting
I wouldnt think it's scripting. 1. There's no way Taliyah could have gotten into that bush undetected so Nid knew she was in that bush somewhere 2. She didn't stop to dodge the Taliyah Q, Taliyah predicted Nid to keep moving but she actually stopped to throw a spear causing the Q to miss. She moved back a lot after seeing the Q to react to it when a scripter wouldn't when they can see the hitbox of the Q already miss
: > [{quoted}](name=Ok sure but why,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xrL3iAfv,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-05T16:51:00.363+0000) > > They're gonna give you more "splash" LP for playing fill when the new system comes out I just googled that. Seems a bit wild, but that seems to be an issue of fairness re: autofill. No? I was suggesting you can free up a lot of clogged pipelines by giving people an incentive to play Fill. For example, I'm in the Bronze 5. In my opinion I can play any role better than the majority of my bracket, and I'm willing to Fill so long as everyone else gets the role they prefer - suggesting they'll be good at it and won't throw a tantrum. To me, Fill here is risk mitigation. I give everyone else what they want, and the champ that they want (presumably) and that means my chance of success increases. What bothers me about the current state of affairs is that when I FILL, other people are also getting Autofilled.
everyone in bronze thinks theyre better than anyone else in it and that they dont deserve to be there You legit bought 30 red sodas and went runic echoes on hecarim, buying tank items and tear on zilean, low wards and rushing to finish mobis on sona, terrible cs and random item buys on lucian, runic echoes ivern, triforce illoai.... literally doing everything wrong on every champ
: Riot should have a rental system for champions
With how hard BE is to come by I'd say no, unless the BE spent on them is tracked and eventually can count towards a discount to buying the champ for the amount you paid to rent previously already
ThePikol (EUNE)
: Few things and themes I think would be cool to see in League in the future
I really want a multi entity champ not quite like a swarm but like 3-5 tiny guys that operate as one. Would take reduced damage from autos and single target abilities but take increased damage against AoE. Would mix up the game more than just AD vs AP
: Malphite uses {{item:3025}}, but yeah him and Ez are the only 2 that use it.
: That's a fine and dandy reason - if kings only fought in wars. But kings lead nations, and are the figurehead for their people. They are the banner that the people rally behind and they are the icon that holds their people together. If a king like Darius died on the battlefield because he's out there with his soldiers, his nation suddenly has a vacancy in power at the top, and his people and his soldiers are instantly demoralized at the loss of their leader. That kind of shock can lead your soldiers to either running or becoming so sloppy they end up losing the battle. If he's got family, they'll step in and take over. If he doesn't, there will be a civil war as people fight for control, and more people will die trying to fill his seat than they did in the war he died in. Then there's Garen. Sure, he leads his men from the back lines, but he leads his men - he doesn't recklessly endanger himself and leave his nation without a leader. He knows that he is the life of his nation, that he unites his people and inspires them to keep going. He knows that if he dies, he leaves his nation in a rocky place, and his troops will be demoralized. He knows that he's a necessary fixture to hold his people together and lead them to greater places. So if you want to talk about kings, Garen is the superior king, because he actually understands what it means to be a leader, and what it means to be the backbone of his people. Darius has this naïve notion of what it is to be king, and he thinks all it entails is military victory. He, in fact, would probably make a terrible leader, because he would be bad at diplomacy and would be equally bad at doing anything political.
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Owmz53Zd,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-06-27T19:04:51.659+0000) > > That's a fine and dandy reason - if kings only fought in wars. But kings lead nations, and are the figurehead for their people. They are the banner that the people rally behind and they are the icon that holds their people together. > > If a king like Darius died on the battlefield because he's out there with his soldiers, his nation suddenly has a vacancy in power at the top, and his people and his soldiers are instantly demoralized at the loss of their leader. That kind of shock can lead your soldiers to either running or becoming so sloppy they end up losing the battle. If he's got family, they'll step in and take over. If he doesn't, there will be a civil war as people fight for control, and more people will die trying to fill his seat than they did in the war he died in. > > Then there's Garen. Sure, he leads his men from the back lines, but he leads his men - he doesn't recklessly endanger himself and leave his nation without a leader. He knows that he is the life of his nation, that he unites his people and inspires them to keep going. He knows that if he dies, he leaves his nation in a rocky place, and his troops will be demoralized. He knows that he's a necessary fixture to hold his people together and lead them to greater places. > > So if you want to talk about kings, Garen is the superior king, because he actually understands what it means to be a leader, and what it means to be the backbone of his people. Darius has this naïve notion of what it is to be king, and he thinks all it entails is military victory. He, in fact, would probably make a terrible leader, because he would be bad at diplomacy and would be equally bad at doing anything political. That's only relevant when they're just some standard mortal king where their normal combat prowess of a man is just a man so having a king fighting is just as effective as having some normal soldier fighting. In this story they're both god kings with supernatural powers which makes so much more sense to have the best weapon out on the field
: Unironically fuck you for doing something this scummy.
Yeah I looked at the icons on Surr@20 and only liked these and the end victory ones, but having to pay $50 is total crap Wonder if they'll be available for the random icons in the BE stores? Doubt it tho
: Holy shit Aatrox feels AWFUL.
I think for his abilities to be all AoE with a big area they should be hard to land. Probably more useful in full on teamfights to AoE them down or be used as huge zoning tools. Not sure about the damage scaling yet
: really?? Dont most tanks have high base armor/mr or hp?
no, they have high base damage so they can build tank items and still be relevant
: > [{quoted}](name=HP Crookshanks,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AV07Y0co,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-06-19T22:39:23.608+0000) > > Most Overloaded: > {{champion:105}} E > AoE damage > Mobility > Untargetability > Slow > Wave clear > > Most Underloaded: > {{champion:103}} W > Just crappy damage now ahri w is legit an inferior zoe w in every single way
most underrated is {{champion:143}} W Poops out a seed just to sit there
Rioter Comments
Yenn (NA)
: I'm 17-2-10 Vel'koz and I literally cannot do anything late game because everyone is moving so fast
swap out {{item:3151}} for {{item:3116}} then to keep them in the area longer your team was seriously lacking CC to complement your damage otherise
: I don't think tanks should be solo carries, am I the only one?
Taric isnt doing the carrying, he just adds CC, heal and invul. You dont need gold, gear or items to CC or use your base abilities
Rioter Comments
Altiverse (EUNE)
: What's wrong with this game, summarized in 1 second
you and 2 others have double digit deaths on your team while everyone on their team was fed. Cant just blame a single champ with no other info when you got totally gang banged by their whole team while having no items He had finished boots, jg item and duskblade by that time while you were an item down and already died 6 times. WTF do u expect
: > [{quoted}](name=ForFoxSakes,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WE20Epdm,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-06-15T19:47:29.204+0000) > > why do people feel like they need to demand attention for quitting > bye felicia Because they want to draw attention to the shitty condition the game is in Someone's gotta say it
lots of people have been saying it with feedback with dozens of posts each day, not the OP's bitch and whine with no real context
: Quitting League after 6 years.
why do people feel like they need to demand attention for quitting bye felicia
: Probably because it would be confusing as hell. There are already wards of different types and plenty of skins to go with them. The simple option would be to have chromas for the more popular kinds of wards.
how would it be confusing at all. it's an item that sits there just giving vision
: garens new legendary is better than mf's ultimate skin. change my mind.
Bazerka (NA)
: These are just my own thoughts, but do what you can to stop the feed / tilt :). There have been many a time I've personally been hyper tilted, but a friendly word / encouragement has helped me cool down and focus resulting in a win. Just my own experience share.
Nice words dont stop FB rage quits and AFKs
: Great Matchmaking System Riot
I dont see the problem. That's like the most balanced matched game Ive seen in forever
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: Can you figure this one out?
: So Pyke is a support...But you guys didn't flag him as a support for champ select sorting?
: you can burn through a bot game in 12 minutes....
: If you want Celerity to be more rewarding...
You get the bonus for your opening damage. Making it after is a severe nerf to those with movespeed like Shyv & udyr
SkyWarrioR (EUNE)
: 99 LP 2 TIMES A ROW RIOT GIMME 1 LP
If you didnt lose that extra game you'd get more LP per win so its still on you The real problem is the wasting of LP when you go from 99-100 with a +20LP on win so you miss out on the 19. Really should carry over after the promo series
: Blocked
Can your son read? It's not hard to click the correct thing. Can't blame the system for user error. He has 15 min timer to go piss, but decides to do so while in queue. Should teach him life management skills rather than playing a game w him if this is such a big issue You going to cry about missing a skillshot because you clicked a quarter of an inch off too? How the fuck do you miss the accept button when you have 10 seconds to aim a mouse cursor at it
: Ain't Infinity Edge overpriced?
It gets massive value with other items. you cant just compare it by itself. If you got 2 {{item:1051}} on top that's giving you 20% free crit or 1200g in value already, which means you get more than the initial passive cost plus all the benefits from here on out for free
: Have the grades shifted hard on some of your champs?
The more people that play the champ the larger the sample size and pool of scores youre compared against. So if you were getting something like 9-3-10 as an S- before, that really isnt that amazing of a score when lots of others are crushing even harder at like 15-1-20. Also those who CS much better will bring the CS requirement up for that champ too
Tomoe Gozen (EUNE)
: Bruisers don't have anything to rely on while itemizing for damage. They either conform to half damage/more tank stats items and delay their damage and pay so much gold for literally no impact or they are super aggressive and manage to succeed in getting a lead 50% of the time. The other 50% where you fail is when you get set back a bit but it even feels so much worse because the items for bruisers are so expensive that you're still struggling to compete even when you're 0/0.
Bruisers already have very high base stats and scaling in their kit they can open tank items and still kill people
: Yasuo's {Passive} might be changed because everyone can have it, But Wukong's Stone skin won't?
: 60% win rate with her so I don't really care what you think the right build for her is. And the HIGH, very high possibility you gank, and we get a kill, now they are gonna play shy the rest of lane fearing another gank. Plus Ieither got a BF sword now or are boots so now I probably won't need another gank..
60% winrate going through bronze then hardstuck bottom of silver. whoop de do You're building MF as an auto attacker with W max first. Why play MF at all when other auto ADC does it better and you dont even use her kit to it's actual potential. You doing absolutely everything wrong vs clueless players doesn't mean its good
: IDK about xin, because xin doesn't scale with AD as well as few other champs (this is why xin needs tank items instead of pure damage items). Riven and Fiora are the two champions with the greatest scaling with AD. It will be an op item on those champs. https://pcgamesn.com/league-of-legends/league-of-legends-patch-812 The fact of the matter is that no tanks (and almost no fighters) scale very well with pure AD. Tanks build titanic hydra mainly because of the AoE and the health stat it provides, (and the damage nuke from its unique active) and not because the flat AD of the item, which is why the other new item "Atma's Recoknoning" might not be a very popular item. Same logic goes to the new sterak's gage. With the new change, riot is determined to gut all the tanks and tanky bruisers alike. Most tanks and fighters don't scale very well with AD, but they do build Triforce to take advantage of the passive to take down squishy targets. If you remove that base attack damage passive from a tank's favorite item and give it flat AD, it's a straight up nerf to most tanks. In fact, there will be very few "situational" cases where none tanks will build it over other items. Most damage carries do not need defensive stats (at least in high enough elos). So when tanks will no longer build this item because of the lack of synergy with the triforce that it provides, who's going to build this item? Where exactly is this game heading? What's up with creating items that suit no champions lately? Creating all these items without distinct usefulness is what makes this game boring. Imagine this: why create AD and AP champs when hypothetically all items provide BOTH Ad and Ap stats in all cases? How boring the game will be.
Xin doesnt need tank items. He just goes hard damage to blow someone up and can tank the rest of the team with R up. Once its 4v5 you can do whatever. Now with the spear you can facetank even longer
: Doesn't it say a max of 70 damage blocked per auto/ability? I'm not sure if that is broken or not but it is at least capped so as to not allow Jhin and others to abuse it.
200% more when theres more enemies nearby. Have this done mid game and you can have your assassins initiate fights and also be impervious to tank damage completely
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