: > [{quoted}](name=Freeza with an I,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AfRM1zq1,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-07-19T01:33:42.125+0000) > > INB4 "oMG who uses Linux?" well, I recently switched to Linux. I love it over Windows and all my games run a lot better due to there being a lot more free resources since a lot of the built in Windows bloatware doesn't exist. I know League of Lutris exists but 1. it can be bannable, 2. it runs horrible. Why doesn't League have a Linux client? And don't give me that garbage about there's not a big enough userbase, there is. If people are constantly working on ways to play it then there's an obvious desire to have it. It's even MORE puzzling when League's biggest competitor, Dota 2, has it natively and requires nothing to get it to work! There isn't a big enough userbase. That is a fact, and not garbage. There is a fundamental logical difference between the percentage of Linux users who want to game on it and the percentage of gamers who use Linux for gaming. > [{quoted}](name=Freeza with an I,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AfRM1zq1,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-19T08:08:31.131+0000) > > If there's a big enough fan base of people playing on OSX, then I can't see why Linux can't get it. A lot more professionals use LInux, and mostly only students and Video Editors use OSX. There are very few Mac gamers, but much much fewer Linux gamers. I don't see the purpose of your distinction between "professionals" and "students and video editors" at all. If anything, a platform used by students is more likely to be used for games than a platform used by "professionals" (assuming you mean people who use their machine for their job), because a student is much more likely to be using their personal machine for studies than an employee is to be using their work machine for gaming.
> [{quoted}](name=KFCeytron,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AfRM1zq1,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-19T08:33:55.544+0000) > > There isn't a big enough userbase. That is a fact, and not garbage. There is a fundamental logical difference between the percentage of Linux users who want to game on it and the percentage of gamers who use Linux for gaming. > > There are very few Mac gamers, but much much fewer Linux gamers. > > I don't see the purpose of your distinction between "professionals" and "students and video editors" at all. If anything, a platform used by students is more likely to be used for games than a platform used by "professionals" (assuming you mean people who use their machine for their job), because a student is much more likely to be using their personal machine for studies than an employee is to be using their work machine for gaming. Alright, my point there was the few schools that offer Macbooks usually have restrictions on them anyway. Therefore the OSX userbase is more than likely puny, so why can it have a port and Linux cannot? If there was an ACTUAL reason for it I'd get it. Dead by Daylight and Paladins don't have ones yet due to them using Easy Anti-Cheat. League can run no issue in Linux when emulated, but if it ran natively it would be far superior. And as for Mac gamers existing more-so than Linux, that's a doubt from me. A lot more people have been turning to Linux and most the people who use linux do it for schoolwork only or video editing.
: What was the strongest champion? Ever?
Release Nasus. IIRC his ult did 100% of nearby enemies health per 1 AP he had. So yea, almost as broken as TFT.
: What is the purpose of "Rotating Game Mode" in the PBE, IF RIOT NEVER DOES ANYTHING WITH IT!?!?!?
Hey! Don't call them out, they'll maybe bring back URF for a day or so next year so..Yea.
coreym11 (NA)
: Bot lane has turned so stressful and so cheese to play, doesn't even feel competitive
Honestly I wish they'd just remove Cait's onboxiously long headshot combo. If she has a root/snare support it basically guarantees you're dead if youg et hit one. Lux Q's you? TRAP INTO A BONUS DAMAGE HEADSHOT INTO A E HEADSHOT. Literally either A. Remove her ability to use the E Headshot or better yet: Make her W deal base damage or let it headshot but not massive amounts of bonus damage!!
: Just because there are stubborn "I don't wanna use a version of Windows for games" people who dedicate a lot of time to work arounds, doesn't mean there's this massive af playerbase waiting for Linux league - I'm just saying.
> [{quoted}](name=xox BaByDoLL xox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AfRM1zq1,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-19T05:52:31.900+0000) > > Just because there are stubborn "I don't wanna use a version of Windows for games" people who dedicate a lot of time to work arounds, doesn't mean there's this massive af playerbase waiting for Linux league - I'm just saying. If there's a big enough fan base of people playing on OSX, then I can't see why Linux can't get it. A lot more professionals use LInux, and mostly only students and Video Editors use OSX.
Rioter Comments
: I mean I get 144+ easily on the maximum graphics setting with a $1000 build.
> [{quoted}](name=ARGthe1st,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=WJAruTmY,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-15T02:38:08.518+0000) > > I mean I get 144+ easily on the maximum graphics setting with a $1000 build. I guess I'll have to just mess with stuff when my new monitor arrives.
: My low spec laptop ran it better than that. How much ram you got as well?
> [{quoted}](name=TheLastShadow45,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=WJAruTmY,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-15T02:34:05.759+0000) > > My low spec laptop ran it better than that. How much ram you got as well? 16, upgrading to 32 in a day or so.
Rioter Comments
: You do know th ey have a new client they have in the works right?
> [{quoted}](name=ChaosLordMadis,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xctKvqRz,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-07-01T00:46:22.266+0000) > > You do know th ey have a new client they have in the works right? This was the new client like 3 years ago, when did they announce a "new-new client"??
: the fun part is making do with what you have and using the little items and champs you have to turn the match in your favor.
> [{quoted}](name=Thaum1568,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=UEKw3RIV,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-27T22:03:13.352+0000) > > the fun part is making do with what you have and using the little items and champs you have to turn the match in your favor. Doesn't really seem possible when the game refuses to let you level your characters but allows someone else to get Level 3s insanely quickly
Rioter Comments
: Tahm top meta show us how much balance team undestand of this game
Honestly, I wouldn't be against him getting tweaked for top but it feels like all they do is try to hurt him as a support.
: I really feel like Riot doesn't care anymore. Let me know what you think.
It honestly feels like no matter what your opinion about Riot is, there's too many people who will avidly take a bullet for them based off nothing but nostalgia and hoping things will change. Eventually I'm gonna quit this game for good rather than just for a few months.
: Blast To The Past (Gamemode Idea)
Unless Riot every decides to for some unknown reason introduce League Classic, we're not getting anything like this. It's a shame because I'd play it exclusively, I hate Riots new balancing philosophy and I do really hate a lot of the new reworks and new champions.
: Jungle in general is in bad shape.
> [{quoted}](name=CarpeConundrum,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QwyahwFx,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-16T08:08:07.826+0000) > > Jungle in general is in bad shape. Honestly? It feels like unless you gank level 2 you're falling really far behind. Being a jungler against like Rammus who will gank lanes every 3 seconds feels so shitty
: {{champion:101}} {{champion:72}} {{champion:429}} {{champion:77}} they share the same pain {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
> [{quoted}](name=Moonboy65,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=oLAWUrfo,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-16T05:54:48.773+0000) > > {{champion:101}} {{champion:72}} {{champion:429}} {{champion:77}} they share the same pain {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}} Why couldn't they of given us Dark Cosmic Kalista, and Battle Boss Vel and Skarner? Hell even Xer and Udyr would make good Battle Bosses
Sukishoo (NA)
: Yeah it's not going to happen. Riot will never can a release skin for a brand new champion. Plus, they specifically said that Swen Chaos wasn't actually supposed to be seen, it was never meant to even hit the PBE according to the information they gave out. The skins were far below quality all around even for the 750 tier. These skins are within the quality standards of the 1350 tier. > [{quoted}](name=Freeza with an I,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oTF6GNKA,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-16T02:12:07.783+0000) > > I have no issue with her getting a skin, I have an issue with her getting a skin that completely goes against the skin's purpose. If they would've given her a Arcade skin I would've had no issue with it, but pushing her out with a Battle Boss skins feels forced and as if they simply don't care about the skin integrity How at all is it going against a skins purpose? Skins are supposed to show an alternate look on a champion. She's a self proclaimed Empress and this is very much an alternate look on her character, as it turns her into one of the video game lands big bad bosses. It goes well with her sassy arrogant attitude as well as hit kit. So I don't see a problem.
> [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oTF6GNKA,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-16T03:28:51.922+0000) > > Yeah it's not going to happen. Riot will never can a release skin for a brand new champion. Plus, they specifically said that Swen Chaos wasn't actually supposed to be seen, it was never meant to even hit the PBE according to the information they gave out. The skins were far below quality all around even for the 750 tier. These skins are within the quality standards of the 1350 tier. > > How at all is it going against a skins purpose? Skins are supposed to show an alternate look on a champion. She's a self proclaimed Empress and this is very much an alternate look on her character, as it turns her into one of the video game lands big bad bosses. It goes well with her sassy arrogant attitude as well as hit kit. So I don't see a problem. It doesn't go against her design, it goes against the skin lines. The point of the skin is to reference old fashion arcade bosses. A generic thicc girl was never an arcade boss, it was supposed to be stuff like monsters or giant threats.
: > [{quoted}](name=Freeza with an I,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oTF6GNKA,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-16T02:16:47.468+0000) > > This is just a bad sign though honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the next Mecha skin was a normal human character. > Like Jhin getting a Dark Star skin is alright since he's not a normal person, Karma getting one is weird since she's a traditional human character. > At this rate we'll probably get like a Mecha Riven next. I think you mean Mecha Ezreal :^)
> [{quoted}](name=Quality Content,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oTF6GNKA,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2019-06-16T03:04:09.793+0000) > > I think you mean Mecha Ezreal :^) "*Robotic* You belong in a museum"
: > [{quoted}](name=Freeza with an I,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oTF6GNKA,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-16T02:19:21.842+0000) She's literally the genderbent version of Bowser from Mario. What the fuck are you talking about?
> [{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oTF6GNKA,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-16T02:20:46.733+0000) > > She's literally the genderbent version of Bowser from Mario. What the fuck are you talking about? What the fuck are you talking about??? Bowsette =/= Bowser.
: > [{quoted}](name=Freeza with an I,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oTF6GNKA,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-16T02:16:47.468+0000) Fisrt of all, its Dark Cosmic, not Dark Star. Second of all, Jhin is a normal person, WTF are you talking about?
> [{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oTF6GNKA,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-16T02:19:24.654+0000) > > Fisrt of all, its Dark Cosmic, not Dark Star. Second of all, Jhin is a normal person, WTF are you talking about? Not really, he's really cruel, uncaring, and probably to the people in his lore couldn't be viewed as a normal human. Karma on the other-hand is human, and it's very obvious. Plus, Jhin can play into it since we never see his face, Karma we literally see that she's a human all the time. For all we know Jhin is three yordles in a trench coat.
: > [{quoted}](name=Freeza with an I,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oTF6GNKA,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-16T02:12:07.783+0000) Her Battle Boss skin is based off of Bowsette and references the Mario games. It plays off of the fact that she thinks she's some high and mighty ruler when in reality she's not anything important. She's borderline a villain in the lore, being a huge bitch that went out of her way to cripple her sister and endanger her entire kingdom all because she's upset that she's last in line to rule. I think it could have been executed better, but I by no means think that its forced. Yasuo, on the other hand, is unnecessary. I swear he's only there because Riven has a Arcade skin and they have a rivalry in the main lore.
> [{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oTF6GNKA,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-16T02:18:00.967+0000) > > Her Battle Boss skin is based off of Bowsette and references the Mario games. It plays off of the fact that she thinks she's some high and mighty ruler when in reality she's not anything important. She's borderline a villain in the lore, being a huge bitch that went out of her way to cripple her sister and endanger her entire kingdom all because she's upset that she's last in line to rule. I think it could have been executed better, but I by no means think that its forced. > > Yasuo, on the other hand, is unnecessary. I swear he's only there because Riven has a Arcade skin and they have a rivalry in the main lore. The thing is though, it's a skinline reserved for characters that look like generic old boss characters. Someone like her would've never been the boss in a retro game. Like I said, I'd completely be fine with her having like an Arcade skin but giving her a Battleboss is against the skins purpose
: It's too late too much work has already gone into them. The sewn chaos ones were only 750 skins so they could afford to cut their losses but these are full 1350s with chromas. Cancelling them won't magically let them whip up a replacement since these skins take a long time to make. The only thing cancelling them would do is cause them to lose money.
> [{quoted}](name=Quality Content,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oTF6GNKA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-16T02:12:08.273+0000) > > It's too late too much work has already gone into them. The sewn chaos ones were only 750 skins so they could afford to cut their losses but these are full 1350s with chromas. Cancelling them won't magically let them whip up a replacement since these skins take a long time to make. The only thing cancelling them would do is cause them to lose money. This is just a bad sign though honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the next Mecha skin was a normal human character. Like Jhin getting a Dark Star skin is alright since he's not a normal person, Karma getting one is weird since she's a traditional human character. At this rate we'll probably get like a Mecha Riven next.
: Yeah, they did pick the new champion for the skin. Its called a release skin, and every new champion gets one. Lately, they've been tying in the releases of new champions with events, with Qiyana being released during the Arcade event. Thus, she gets a Battle Boss skin.
> [{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oTF6GNKA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-16T02:09:29.808+0000) > > Yeah, they did pick the new champion for the skin. Its called a release skin, and every new champion gets one. Lately, they've been tying in the releases of new champions with events, with Qiyana being released during the Arcade event. Thus, she gets a Battle Boss skin. I have no issue with her getting a skin, I have an issue with her getting a skin that completely goes against the skin's purpose. If they would've given her a Arcade skin I would've had no issue with it, but pushing her out with a Battle Boss skins feels forced and as if they simply don't care about the skin integrity
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: I feel the difficulty in getting him leveled up and geared consistently without feeding kinda justifies his late-game effectiveness.
> [{quoted}](name=TheNonMan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZdJtTVtB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-16T10:22:32.433+0000) > > I feel the difficulty in getting him leveled up and geared consistently without feeding kinda justifies his late-game effectiveness. It seems like he just needs items, even if he's behind in kills e'll still outscale anyone.
: Twitch should have that rewarding gameplay though because of how much good positioning and care he has to take into account. As well as literally being guaranteed death when cc'd
> [{quoted}](name=SnackerMore,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZdJtTVtB,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-05-16T17:03:04.111+0000) > > Twitch should have that rewarding gameplay though because of how much good positioning and care he has to take into account. As well as literally being guaranteed death when cc'd Most of the time though: I can't even manage to get to him. As a full tank Leona: Him popping out of invis from 1000 units away and instantly melting all my HP doesn't give me any chance to fight back.
Rioter Comments
: Pretty sure It only roots for 1.5 seconds period. Honestly I'd say buff it to a 1.5 second stun.
> [{quoted}](name=Jorencice,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E1AVb2Ve,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-16T07:01:27.085+0000) > > Pretty sure It only roots for 1.5 seconds period. > > Honestly I'd say buff it to a 1.5 second stun. Don't think so, I think it can be double proc'd. That with other champions though make it impossible to deal with effectively. Being a safe distance and all of a sudden a Riven Ghostblading towards you and you being rooted from a mile away means that you can't do a thing against it.
Rioter Comments
: The hitboxes in this game are absolutely stupid.
I've been dealing with Lux Q's lately and it's unfun, it can literally pass my character and then snaps on. My friend whos a Lux main was dying from laughter yesterday since her spells kept hitting for no reason.
Rioter Comments
: I want the old runes AND masteries. They were fine before. Riot changed things just for the sake of change. They need to learn not to change things that ARE NOT BROKEN TO BEGIN WITH!
> [{quoted}](name=MiracleMorg94,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=REvYngWd,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-19T13:08:06.674+0000) > > I want the old runes AND masteries. They were fine before. Riot changed things just for the sake of change. They need to learn not to change things that ARE NOT BROKEN TO BEGIN WITH! I'd argue it wasn't "just cuz" I would argue that 1. They wanted to have something flashy for tourneys, and 2. They wanted to shut people up about how runes were. I just think they didn't need to make them so big though like..Just give me the stat boosts back.
: Get rid of all runes and masteries. They make the game harder to balance and they aren't fun.
> [{quoted}](name=Morticianjohn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=REvYngWd,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-19T04:53:05.538+0000) > > Get rid of all runes and masteries. They make the game harder to balance and they aren't fun. Eh, I beg to differ. Season 5 ones for sure didn't break the game, 6 maybe did for a bit but 5 offered small bonuses overtime.
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Kalikain (NA)
: I'm excited for the Vayne Nerfs
Honestly? it's probably just gonna be a small little nerf due to the fact she's so massively played. Like -0.5% true damage on her W, or --5 movement speed, OR -5 ad, +1 per level or something dumb like that. Not gonna fix her actual issues.
: This would also be an acceptable solution/test in my mind. It would really highlight who is actually just busted or not.
> [{quoted}](name=LatetotheRace,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NttVPkqc,comment-id=002e0000,timestamp=2019-04-05T04:00:26.301+0000) > > This would also be an acceptable solution/test in my mind. It would really highlight who is actually just busted or not. I couldn't say for sure, but the old runes and masteries didn't give MASSIVE DAMAGE or MASSIVE BONSUES every minute, it was just stats. Easier to balance that way.
: You nerfed Urgot to 48%winratte yet Hercaim and Riven sitting at 55% winrate without nerfs
I hope Hec gets a nerf, I hate playing Jungle and my mid laner gets one shot by a 1300 horse with an undodgeable attack
AIQ (NA)
: Their "ideals" seem very mixed. In one breath they release a busted version of the champion item and slowly bring it down. Akali But then in another breath they say we'd rather have X champion/item weak and slowly bring it up... Akali (even though it was quick compared to some other champions) So personally I don't think they have a "plan" or "ideal" perse that is universal or the standard they follow. One important factor to consider champion wise is favoritism. Yasuo CANNOT be weak as this would hurt Riot financially, but Udyr can because his fan base is nothing in comparison. With that in mind if Yasuo needs balance then Overshoot and nerf slowly applies. For Udyr it's break his legs and slowly bring him up. So for more popular champions, {{champion:84}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:6}} (Surprisingly). Will not remain in a weak state for long and when "adjusted" will likely be over shot knowingly. Additionally are skins, champions will more than likely receive buffs out of the blue for a temporary boost in sales. From a different angle you have new release. Most of the times the champions will be released over tuned due to the learning curve associated with them. {{champion:20}} rework was released fairly weak (compared to most releases) because most players could easily pick up that kit. {{champion:10}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:84}} were heavily over tuned due to their learning curves. Of course none of this is official, but it stands true for the most part with maybe a few exceptions.
> [{quoted}](name=AIQ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IxfIiqPl,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-04T14:18:40.363+0000) > > Their "ideals" seem very mixed. > > In one breath they release a busted version of the champion item and slowly bring it down. Akali > But then in another breath they say we'd rather have X champion/item weak and slowly bring it up... Akali (even though it was quick compared to some other champions) > > So personally I don't think they have a "plan" or "ideal" perse that is universal or the standard they follow. > > One important factor to consider champion wise is favoritism. Yasuo CANNOT be weak as this would hurt Riot financially, but Udyr can because his fan base is nothing in comparison. > With that in mind if Yasuo needs balance then Overshoot and nerf slowly applies. For Udyr it's break his legs and slowly bring him up. > > So for more popular champions, {{champion:84}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:6}} (Surprisingly). Will not remain in a weak state for long and when "adjusted" will likely be over shot knowingly. > > Additionally are skins, champions will more than likely receive buffs out of the blue for a temporary boost in sales. > > From a different angle you have new release. Most of the times the champions will be released over tuned due to the learning curve associated with them. > {{champion:20}} rework was released fairly weak (compared to most releases) because most players could easily pick up that kit. > > {{champion:10}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:84}} were heavily over tuned due to their learning curves. > > Of course none of this is official, but it stands true for the most part with maybe a few exceptions. Remember when they overtuned Ashe for awhile when PROJECT came out and then nerfed it a few weeks after?
: I want Black Market Brawlers back!
Yea, they've said they won't bring it back since it was too much stuff. It sucks, I loved most of the items in it and wish I could've payed with them more.
: What if we removed runes and masteries?
I think they should just add back pre-keystone Masteries and old Runes but make them free. It would've literally taken less work to just make runes free than to make a new system and refund people
: {{champion:84}} I hate the rework. Played it once after the rework and hated it. Never touched her again. Garbage. At best she should have been "reworked" in the same way {{champion:25}} was; a mostly visual rework.
> [{quoted}](name=NaughtyWord,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=prtoF3bR,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2019-04-03T10:22:34.882+0000) > > {{champion:84}} > > I hate the rework. Played it once after the rework and hated it. Never touched her again. Garbage. At best she should have been "reworked" in the same way {{champion:25}} was; a mostly visual rework. Yea, I wish they would've kept her as Akali instead of just this tattooed out edgelord.
: {{champion:91}} and {{champion:55}} . Both were fun and simplistic to play. Now their kits are gimmicky and not fun to play.
> [{quoted}](name=OneMustFall,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=prtoF3bR,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2019-04-03T10:13:35.379+0000) > > {{champion:91}} and {{champion:55}} . Both were fun and simplistic to play. Now their kits are gimmicky and not fun to play. Yea, Talon was my main for the longest time but new Talon just feels really clunky to play as.
: {{champion:6}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:84}} {{champion:50}} I would prefer them to be reverted.
> [{quoted}](name=YG TheyWorshipMe,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=prtoF3bR,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2019-04-03T11:05:49.490+0000) > > {{champion:6}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:84}} {{champion:50}} I would prefer them to be reverted. Urgot I'm okay with as old Urgot was way too gimmicky to ever be good, Irelia is insane now but I guess she always was, Akali's just..Not really the same now and I hate how edgy they made her, and Swain uh..I don't really mind either way haha.
man of tin (EUNE)
: {{champion:154}} His old ult was way more fun to use for me than the new one is, he was also ok in top lane before his rework because of his old Q. I pretty much stopped playing him at this point because he only works in the jungle now.
> [{quoted}](name=man of tin,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=prtoF3bR,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2019-04-03T16:38:40.141+0000) > > {{champion:154}} His old ult was way more fun to use for me than the new one is, he was also ok in top lane before his rework because of his old Q. I pretty much stopped playing him at this point because he only works in the jungle now. I fully agree! I loved playing Zac Jungle, Top, and Support. Now I hate his mechanics and he just feels overall really unfun. It really sucks :/
: No, it's literally the perfect reason. Also, not why Maokai was reworked.
> [{quoted}](name=Nik Nikerson,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=prtoF3bR,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-04-03T03:44:09.045+0000) > > No, it's literally the perfect reason. > > Also, not why Maokai was reworked. Well, they could always do a visual update with some kit tweaks. A Full on rework isn't 100% necessary.
Ludicol0 (NA)
: gangplank, maokai, and galio. There was no reason needed for them to be reworked they were simply reworked because no one played them and that's a r%%%%%ed reason
> [{quoted}](name=Ludicol0,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=prtoF3bR,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-04-03T02:23:11.691+0000) > > gangplank, maokai, and galio. There was no reason needed for them to be reworked they were simply reworked because no one played them and that's a r%%%%%ed reason Yeaaaa..Old Mao was fun but I could never figure out his ult at the time, GP was a blast to play and wasn't an edgelord. Galio was..Interesting.
: {{champion:78}} Making her a tank was a fundamental misunderstanding of her character. All the team saw was "stun and 2 durability skills. Gotta be a tank" when she was the only champion in the game that could force a 1v1. Poppy was a melee assassin and her kit was *not* unrecoverable in its original form. Her auto attack animation needed some changes for the better, her ult needed a "must fight the target to get the benefit" and her passive could have been changed to damage exceeding 10% of max HP rather than current HP, but she was a coherent character despite what anyone would say.
> [{quoted}](name=ZerglingOne,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=prtoF3bR,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-04-03T01:46:45.285+0000) > > {{champion:78}} > > Making her a tank was a fundamental misunderstanding of her character. All the team saw was "stun and 2 durability skills. Gotta be a tank" when she was the only champion in the game that could force a 1v1. > > Poppy was a melee assassin and her kit was *not* unrecoverable in its original form. Her auto attack animation needed some changes for the better, her ult needed a "must fight the target to get the benefit" and her passive could have been changed to damage exceeding 10% of max HP rather than current HP, but she was a coherent character despite what anyone would say. Yea, she's kinda like Sion there. Sion wasn't really a tank, he was a caster or a bruiser. They did that for characters they didn't know what to do with tbh.
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