Niaphim (EUW)
: While we are talking about the new HUD...
This always bothered me that this wasn't a thing. :\
: Well it's great that you and your friends are good about it but a lot of people aren't. I'm not saying every 4 man is a bad person, I'm just saying you probably are affecting the game in some way (and a lot of the time it's negative) I'm not sure how riot will fix the amount of player toxicity but people will be people.
Honestly, nothing will be done about player toxicity until Riot starts dishing out harsher punishments for negative behavior.
Too Ton (NA)
: No kalista on either of ur lists darn shame
Considering her mobility is a passive, and not an active, and OPs suggestion was to make a CC that stops the use of mobility abilities, I'd say Kalista doesn't belong on the lists. You don't "use" a passive ability, it just kinda does its thing.
: We need a new form of CC.
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: Don't make a 4 man party.
Actually, I do 4 mans with my friends somewhat frequently. We all usually just fill and give the fourth his role. :\ Not sure why people that play this game can't be decent about that sorta thing, it's not rocket science, it's called playing the game for fun. Hence why you're in normals, and not tryhard (ranked) queue. At least that's my opinion of it. Also, flaming doesn't occur in my group, proper criticism when needed yes (most of the friends I play with are Diamond/Plat), but not flaming. No one ever afk's either. Again, just common decency. :\
: Well that's a little sad to read, I hoped it was not that bad, but thank you for the message and I will try to correct some of them.
Honestly, you'll get it soon enough I think. You have a pretty good use/understanding of the words in the English language. The punctuation is tricky though. Just keep at it! :D
: to which? my post, my reply or both? Please mark my mistakes, or at least point them out English is not my first language and I am still trying to master it, sorry for any inconvenience and thank you for noting them that way I can improve. I will check and edit any mistakes I find please tell me if there are more.
There's a severe lack of punctuation throughout the post and the reply. I kind of assumed that English wasn't your first language, and it's understandable that you'd have issues with the punctuation considering that half the people in my college level writing courses don't know proper punctuation. Just keep at it and I'm sure you'll get better. As for the mistakes you made in the post and reply, there are just a lot of run-on sentences and missing commas (so many that I'd end up retyping the entire post to mark them all.)
: > [{quoted}](name=FyshinaTux,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QmMJiitK,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2015-07-21T02:15:24.923+0000) > > Enemy Tristana is full build, the calculations are pointless, you lose. You can still shut her down, if you saw that she had no {{item:3026}} My point is that its much simpler just to see the gold totals for both teams, its much faster to compare/look at, and can provide some hope when you feel like you're more behind than you acctually are.
Yes, and it would also cause far more surrenders too. You know how many games I've had where both teams had a 5k gold advantage at one point or another? A LOT. If you have a 5k gold deficit at 20 minutes, are you going to play it out? This would fix about as many games as it would ruin. No point putting it in.
: > [{quoted}](name=FyshinaTux,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QmMJiitK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-07-21T02:09:37.554+0000) > > Nope. > > There's no need for you to really know this. Look at the "tab" page (scoreboard) and look at items. That will give you a good enough idea of where the gold is at. Ok Mr. Math. The enemy tristana has {{item:3072}} {{item:3046}} {{item:3031}} {{item:3035}} {{item:3153}} {{item:3006}}. Let me take my time away from the game and calculate how much total gold that costs. Ok now onto their mid laner. Ok now onto their support. Ok now onto their jungler. Ok now onto their top laner. *Gets back to game* " Oh wtf we lost?" When its much simpler just to see " Oh ok even tho they have 3 dragons and a baron, they're only 2k gold up.
Enemy Tristana is full build, the calculations are pointless, you lose.
: Hmmm yeah I can see that I know {{item:3075}} can also kill him in his alpha strike but wonder if Shyvana'a burnout was a bug dosen't sound like it should allow that
: When does season 6 start?
The way I started season 6, was by unlocking it. In order to unlock season 6, you have to watch season 2 of Firefly. I'd advise you do this quickly, because there are some MAJORLY fun changes in the jungle in season 6!
: Can we please add this feature to the new HUD?
Nope. There's no need for you to really know this. Look at the "tab" page (scoreboard) and look at items. That will give you a good enough idea of where the gold is at.
: Damn Yasuo has such a fun and interactive laning phase
Cool Story Bro. Needs More Line Breaks Though. :\ Better Luck Next Time I Guess.
: > 1) Most of the playerbase hate ther No, A select few people on THIS forum hate her. (200 people pales in comparison to 67million) > 2) She deserves a real nerf/rework but for some reason Riot hasn't did that yet Not going to argue on her balanced nature, but this doesn't mean she deserves anything. > 3) Only ones who like Riven are her "mains" (which I doubt that there are that much since some people just "main" her for the free elo) Isn't this true about any champion? Apart from champions you are working to buy, I never see people just like other champions they don't play, I for one only like the champions I main, and hate the rest, it's not unreasonable to assume this is how it is for most people. I even witness people rage at champions they main. > 4) There IS a problem with Riven, which most people refuse to acknowledge I somewhat doubt anyone refuses to acknowledge anything given she is one of those champions that people find fun to bash. Along with Zed who for a long time was considered weak until his rise in popularity, where suddenly everyone is okay with champions being gutted as long as they don't like them. But go ahead and keep trying to encourage the idiotic behavior these boards are known for.
She's been one of the most hated among the community of LoL for a while. Not the community of this forum, that's right, people in my GAMES nearly ALWAYS complain when the enemy team picks Riven, and that's most definitely not on this forum.
: Actually there is a massive difference when building cdr and not. It's much harder to get away without it, trust me
I'm aware, I'm just saying that she still CAN do it without CDR. But what Riven doesn't get ANY CDR what-so-ever?
: If she had to use mana, her abilities would need some pretty big buffs. As they're actually pretty weak, early-mid game in terms of ratios and base damages, but since they can be spammed cause no resource it makes up for it. ( I know you won't believe me but it's true.)
You're forgetting the damage she gets from her Passive... aren't you? The abilities themselves are lacking MAYBE... but the passive MORE than makes up for that.
: This amount of threads of people celebrating the fact that Riven is disabled makes me think...
The issue with riven is the combination of insane mobility (Q), CC (W), Damage, An execute, and NO RESOURCE to deal with. For people saying that her "resource" is her CDs, they're fairly spammable even without CDR... So basically, if she gets even REMOTELY ahead, you can't run from her due to the mobility and cc, and you can't out-trade her because of her damage, and you will likely die, because once she hits 6 she has an execute. [expletive] Riven... She can just stay perma-disabled in my opinion.
: Top 10 players in Aram game mode
To find out your wins and losses (particularly the losses), after a match, in the post-game lobby, above the champions/builds/KDAs/levels etc, there are a few numbers. Among them are "wins/losses" I do believe.
: >Your MMR is your rank. That's not how it works. People can have significantly higher or lower MMR than the rank that they're in.
Hence why you gain more, or less, LP than other people in your division/tier/whatever. If your MMR is HIGHER than your division, you get something like 25 LP per win, and lose half that per loss. If your MMR is LOWER than your division, you get something like 15 LP per win, and lose double that per loss.
: _"Why am I not being matched based on my rank, but based on my MMR? What is my MMR?"_ Your MMR IS your rank, your rank us there so you can see your progress. Every rank has a MMR level, let's say Bronze 5 is 700 MMR, to get to Bronze 4 you need 800 MMR. Again this all speculation, and you don't need your exact MMR to change your gameplay, Bronze 5 is Bronze 5 regardless of what MMR of Bronze 5 you have. ---------------------------- _"Why can't I get that information without having to go to a 3rd party site that can only estimate it?"_ Because Riot wants it hidden. ---------------------------- _"How do I find out the numbers on champion abilities without going to some 3rd party sites?"_ You mean this is a 3rd party website to you? http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/ ----------------------------- _"Why can I not know how many reports I've gotten at the end of a game?"_ Some reports like "Unskilled player" are there for a placebo effect. other reports like "Negative Attitude" are displayed on your screen with the "All players have bad days, be sure to remain sportsman like tho."
That website doesn't give Cooldowns (I checked on Akali).
DrNova (NA)
: Automated systems are shitty idea.
You wanna know what's funny? I was playing a teambuilder with my friend about a month (maybe 2?) ago, and my house lost power. There was no storm, no wind, no rain, NOTHING. Just had our power go out long enough to jack up the modem and router. So I was "afk" from the game (fixing my internet) for about 10 minutes. Came back to the game, and I was the SOLE reason we won the game after that. Still had to type "yes" or "I agree" or whatever the fuck it was... Best system NA. -_-
: It isnt the tank meta atm, Smite lanes meta (Devourer adc, cinderhulk top, rune glaive mid)
I've yet to see a Devourer ADC (unless you count the Vayne jungle that chunked our 500 armor Malphite for nearly a third of his health with 2 auto attacks............................).
iLuma (NA)
: That's honestly all they have to do. Just make it to where you get the effects and gold income from doing jungle based objectives only. Like Runeglaive could be instantly jungle-locked if you made it to where you only get the Glaive Proc ability after killing X amount of jungle creeps. Kind of like Sated Devourer.
Or make it only work on jungle-creeps. I don't like the idea of "kill X jungle creeps, then you can do [something]." It lends itself too heavily to the old FF jungling style, where you literally just farm farm farm farm farm... no ganks, because they don't give you any benefit toward the FF or the Devourer or, in your suggestion, Runeglaive. Don't get me wrong, GOOD junglers would still gank, and STILL be able to get to that bonus, but I'm only in Silver... I don't need my jungler neglecting lanes just to get an added effect.
: But its ridiculous things like {{champion:16}} not being able to heal herself which just makes the champ near worthless in a solo lane. I never agreed with what they did to Starcall, it used to be unique, now its just another generic slowing skillshot however I agree with you on the mana issue, I believe that her silence though was targeted and only on one person and provided NO additional CC.
Yea, my biggest issue with reworked Soraka is her silence now... it does SOOOOOOOOOO much damage for being that large of an AoE, AND snaring, AND silencing... -_- Also, I don't think Soraka SHOULD be able to heal herself, it's kinda like facing an AP Master Yi midlane back in the day. That and her heal gave armor as well, so if she was against an AD midlaner (or top on rare occasion), then she could heal up some damage while trading, AND gain the armor advantage. Was kinda ridic.
: > [{quoted}](name=FyshinaTux,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oZEbVj8B,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-07-14T16:34:29.865+0000) > > Actually, Soraka was in need of a rework. > > The fact that she could heal AND give mana, was what made Lucian Soraka so good in bot lane. Lucian just 1v2 the lane, and Soraka kept him topped off on Health and Mana. Lucian wasn't the only champion she could do that with either. > > So yes Soraka was in need of a rework. > > I mean, let's be real, if Riot makes a champion with a LOT of utility (i.e. supporty kit), and they're strong enough to solo lane, they're kind of broken. Because they now have a good amount of damage, AS WELL as a kit loaded with CC (Release Lulu anyone?). > > So while Riot shouldn't enforce a specific meta (Tank Meta, Assassin Meta, Protect the ADC Meta, etc. etc.) They SHOULD solidify support champions to the support role. At least in my opinion. > > I mean, let's be real. If I'm playing a midlane assassin, and I find myself against a midlane Sona, and she completely wrecks me because she has a heal, speedboost (to kite me with), and insane damage, AS WELL as an AoE stun... Yea, I'm going to be pretty salty at the end of the game. Tbh, if you lose a game against one of the lowest healthed champions in the game as an assassin I want to hit you.
Because Talon would totally wreck a Sona. She just plays safe ENOUGH early on until she gets her ult and an item, then if Talon jumps on her when she goes in to Q harass, she can just ult him for the stun, heal herself, then Q powerchord auto and he's pretty much dead. -_-
iLuma (NA)
: This is kind of true as well. I mean, Cinderhulk ended up being a toplane meta item. Then Runeglaive for the AP mids. And now Sated Devourer.
Yup. Pretty sure there was another one (before you were required to have smite to get the jungle items) that was abused by laners, but I don't remember what it was. Idk, I just feel like the game has gone somewhat downhill/become slightly more unstable since the introduction (SPIRIT OF THE [Spectral Wraith, Elder Lizard]!!!) of the jungling items. At most, if they WANT to have jungle items, they should just give (minimal) combat stats, and grant larger amounts of gold for killing jungle creeps. That way it's completely useless for laners, but the jungler would be able to make good use of the items. Anything past that is... well... too hard to balance apparently.
: Every support I run into Exhaust me all the time. I don't know why, I mean I'm only playing Alistar.
Then they're bad, and they should feel bad. With VERY few exceptions, the ADC will be doing all the damage and, as such, is the one that deserves the exhaust.
: Meta-Locked (No Multi-Roles on Champ Reworks)
Actually, Soraka was in need of a rework. The fact that she could heal AND give mana, was what made Lucian Soraka so good in bot lane. Lucian just 1v2 the lane, and Soraka kept him topped off on Health and Mana. Lucian wasn't the only champion she could do that with either. So yes Soraka was in need of a rework. I mean, let's be real, if Riot makes a champion with a LOT of utility (i.e. supporty kit), and they're strong enough to solo lane, they're kind of broken. Because they now have a good amount of damage, AS WELL as a kit loaded with CC (Release Lulu anyone?). So while Riot shouldn't enforce a specific meta (Tank Meta, Assassin Meta, Protect the ADC Meta, etc. etc.) They SHOULD solidify support champions to the support role. At least in my opinion. I mean, let's be real. If I'm playing a midlane assassin, and I find myself against a midlane Sona, and she completely wrecks me because she has a heal, speedboost (to kite me with), and insane damage, AS WELL as an AoE stun... Yea, I'm going to be pretty salty at the end of the game.
: When {{champion:223}} regurgitates it does the damage BEFORE the animation so if the champion is killed then it switches to the crunch animation and if {{champion:57}} ults or he gets {{summoner:3}} then he still spits them out.
Realistically though, might just be because I feel Support Tahm is best Tahm... but who would exhaust a support? O_o
: It's a risky move that forces him to use his escape and go close to his enemy to deal damage. The problem with AP Ez is that he can outpush a lot of enemies with Runeglaive, not that his move tool can be used aggressively to deal risky damage.
Yup, AP Ezreal has always been strong, Runeglaive just covered up his main issues: "lack of waveclear without using his ult" and "needing mana items causing a semi-weak early game". Personally, I think they should just completely remove jungle items all-together. They were nice while they lasted, but they're JUNGLER items, not LANER items... and it seems like Riot is having a STUPIDLY difficult time keeping them away from the laners as of late.
: > [{quoted}](name=FyshinaTux,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Nsby5Rya,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-07-14T15:50:39.074+0000) > > The fact remains, BotRK is an anti tank item moreso than a "sqishy killer". We WERE in a tank meta prior to the release of Sated Devourer. Now we're in an assassin jungler type meta (again, according to NightBlu3, and I trust him on this statement.) > > So please tell me... how the hell would a tank-killing item be OP, and we still have a tank meta... > > "OH BOY, this tank killing item is so OP, I think everyone should run tanks!!!" > > Seems legit. we were never in a tank meta. we were in a "tanks are suddenly part of the game again" - meta. 2 years, tanks havent even been viable. then theyve found a place in the jungle again with cinderhulk. after the cinderhulk nerfs, tanks were in an ok spo. even though they still blew up way too fast lategame. then for no reason they had to buff borks passive right before devourers release. the fact that it applies lifesteal causes half the problems. because devourer junglers just stack the item with bork and get a ridiculous amount of sustain off those large health pools from those tanks. which is part of the reason why theyre so bloody hard to kill with just a few defesnive items.
Really? We weren't in a tank meta? That explains all the Alistars, Mao'Kais, Sejuanis, Nautilus etc. in the LCS (and LCK, and LMS, iirc) every week. :O
: are u a rioter in disguise or are you just a fucking cunt? all of these methods work and your being a smart ass thinking you know what could go wrong.
I believe they call that "pessimism", or "being a right foul git". and thank you.
: Be able to take ability back points placed before 20 minutes
: Can Tahm Kench Swallow?
Wolfbook (NA)
: Tahm Kench isn't underpowered. [DISCUSSION]
I would disagree. A GREAT Tahm Kench ult can completely WRECK an enemy team with the right engage. The issue with Tahm Kench, is that he would excel in a more tanky meta, and thanks to Sated Devourer (possibly a LITTLE thanks to Runeglaive) we're no longer in a tank meta, so it's harder to get the right person into the backline with his ult. He can also get 3 stacks of his passive up easily enough once he's tanky, and devour the enemy carries. I would say that he would be a great pairing with Kalista also (have him swallow an enemy carry, have Kalista ult him, then the enemy carry is "picked" off rather quickly). He isn't underpowered, but he doesn't need any real boosts either, he just belongs in a meta that we currently aren't in. :(
: > [{quoted}](name=FyshinaTux,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l08q46iP,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-07-14T15:46:19.858+0000) > > Oh I don't know... maybe hire some people, and have a "report for trolling" option in post game lobby, and give the people that they hired to judge these reports all the stats from the game, and have an option to download a replay of the game so they can judge for themselves and opt to punish or not. > > Figuring that a person could go through ~10 in an 8 hour shift on average, that would be 10 games per day per person hired. Figure you hire 20 people for this position, and that's 200 potential trolls that could recieve harsher punishments: PER DAY! > > Does that do much to quell the pandemic of Trolls we have? No clue. But Riot could definitely afford it, and it would be a step in the right direction. Great idea! We now have the option to have live reports happen and Riot has to pay people to do it. How much are you going to pay them? Oh wait... we're banning more people, so need to hire more people to answer support tickets with people disputing bans... 10 a day it sounds like. Wait... they can create a new account and start again trolling people... there are over 10 million users world wide in dozens of different languages so you need to pay A LOT to get foreign language speakers OR pay for office space in those countries... so your anti-troll budget will be: $1,000,000 annually between payroll / office space / equipment... and it's just stemming a problem, not solving it.
Have... have... have you NEVER heard of an IP ban? O_o
: > [{quoted}](name=FyshinaTux,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Nsby5Rya,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2015-07-14T15:39:45.725+0000) > > Wrong. Riot even said in the bloody patch notes that they're "aware that some combinations like BotRK, or Master Yi, could be [crazy]..." in reference to Sated Devourer. > > Which, to me, says that they knew it was going to be OP when they released it... And it's not BotRK's "overtuned passive" that is OP, it's the fact that Sated Devourer procs it twice on ever other attack. Which means that over 10 auto attacks, it would proc 15 times... and if we're talking about Yi, his passive would proc a few times extra, yea... Sated Devourer is COMPLETELY balanced. > > Also, let's consider the fact that releasing Sated Devourer, COMPLETELY changed the meta (according to NightBlu3). That seems balanced too. it really is. borks passive is op on its own. so its no surprise that it doesnt get better with devourer. you dont see the same shit with other on hit items, nor do you see jungle xin suddenly being op because of his w interacting with devourer. the main problem isnt even borks damage in combination with devourer. the main problem is that they had to buff the passive to apply lifesteal for no reason. so the bork + devourer combination doesnt just deal a lot of damage, but creates ridiculous sustain. remove the lifesteal from the bork passive again, and i promise you the bork/devourer combination be half as much of a problem.
The fact remains, BotRK is an anti tank item moreso than a "sqishy killer". We WERE in a tank meta prior to the release of Sated Devourer. Now we're in an assassin jungler type meta (again, according to NightBlu3, and I trust him on this statement.) So please tell me... how the hell would a tank-killing item be OP, and we still have a tank meta... "OH BOY, this tank killing item is so OP, I think everyone should run tanks!!!" Seems legit.
: > [{quoted}](name=FyshinaTux,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l08q46iP,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2015-07-14T15:32:29.322+0000) > > I never agreed with what OP was saying. I merely contradicted your statement that "it's Riot's fault that there are trolls /sarcasm". Because they can, IN FACT, do SOMETHING to lessen the trolls in the community. What should they do with Trolls? This guy claims four trolls in four games... there was only one that's obvious when looking at match history, which is what Riot can look at is the data... so what is a troll then? The largest problem with "catching trolls" is everyone has a different definition of what it is. People saying "Riot needs to ban the trolls" is like saying "We need to stop crime in America" - it is so largely ambiguous that there is no chance for success. Saying Riot could do more? Please tell us what they should be doing to 1. Detect. 2. Punish. 3. Reform. It's easy to tell someone to do something better. It's hard to be constructive and make suggestions.
Oh I don't know... maybe hire some people, and have a "report for trolling" option in post game lobby, and give the people that they hired to judge these reports all the stats from the game, and have an option to download a replay of the game so they can judge for themselves and opt to punish or not. Figuring that a person could go through ~10 in an 8 hour shift on average, that would be 10 games per day per person hired. Figure you hire 20 people for this position, and that's 200 potential trolls that could recieve harsher punishments: PER DAY! Does that do much to quell the pandemic of Trolls we have? No clue. But Riot could definitely afford it, and it would be a step in the right direction.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dragonlord7137,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Nsby5Rya,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2015-07-14T15:23:24.116+0000) > > You haven't played with {{champion:11}} or {{champion:10}} jungle yet then. kayle currently does well in solo lane as well as jungle as far as ive seen. she seems to be generally strong. and bork is core on yi. devourer alone doesnt break him. its again just borks overtuned passive that ruins the game.
Wrong. Riot even said in the bloody patch notes that they're "aware that some combinations like BotRK, or Master Yi, could be [crazy]..." in reference to Sated Devourer. Which, to me, says that they knew it was going to be OP when they released it... And it's not BotRK's "overtuned passive" that is OP, it's the fact that Sated Devourer procs it twice on ever other attack. Which means that over 10 auto attacks, it would proc 15 times... and if we're talking about Yi, his passive would proc a few times extra, yea... Sated Devourer is COMPLETELY balanced. Also, let's consider the fact that releasing Sated Devourer, COMPLETELY changed the meta (according to NightBlu3). That seems balanced too.
: > [{quoted}](name=FyshinaTux,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l08q46iP,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2015-07-14T15:17:27.135+0000) > > Arguably speaking, they COULD deter a LOT of the trolls by simply having HARSHER punishments for trolling... http://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=ekko+or+feed One Troll in One Game. Not the 4 he claimed. And in the first of the four he has the most deaths... the "troll" did more damage and has less deaths... so... Riot should do what now? Punish who? Speak up son!
I never agreed with what OP was saying. I merely contradicted your statement that "it's Riot's fault that there are trolls /sarcasm". Because they can, IN FACT, do SOMETHING to lessen the trolls in the community.
: Am I the only one who didn't understand a word the OP was trying to say?
he lost 4 games in a row due to trolls and dropped from Master to Diamond 1. That's what he's saying.
: Yep it's Riots fault trolls exist... just like it's their fault idiots post asinine drivel.
Arguably speaking, they COULD deter a LOT of the trolls by simply having HARSHER punishments for trolling...
: > [{quoted}](name=FyshinaTux,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pAEsJlAZ,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-07-12T03:22:43.613+0000) > > I wouldn't dream of trying to play him in ranked right now. > > I'll stick to normals until I get a LOT better with him. > > No idea why people think "OH! NEW SUPPORT CHAMPION THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO SOLO LANE! GOTTA PLAY IT! IT'LL BE OP AF!!!!!!!". -_- Riot said he could top lane multiple times prior to his release.
Riot said stuff. Yea... Who cares? He's far better, from what I've seen thus far, as a support. He's also classed as a support for his primary role. Taric is also a champion that would be a support, but can still top lane. Yet, every Taric I see on SR is supporting, or failing HARD at top lane. Pretty much what I've seen from Tahm Kench.
: Thanks for the feed back ^.^
Anytime! It's always nice to have a discussion about favorite champions and not have it turn into a [expletive]storm argument about who has the bigger e-peen. ^-^
Vistha Kai (EUNE)
: You aren't zoning. You are pushing.
Yea, and no matter how well you zone, the minions will eventually push into his tower.
: He has good matchups and bad matchups like any other champ. His sustain is totally reliant on him having access to his minions, so pick a champ that can zone, and zone him.
Or, y'know... he can just farm under tower to regen all the "zoning" you just did. -_-
: i usually play support or jungle when i just want to chill because even though i can farm pretty well when i see how bad the others in my tier farm, i get really frustrated whenever i miss cs where i could easily get it if i would just concentrate more. sounds stupid but i can't really explain that, whatever. yeah support can be fun but that really depends on your adc, if you get a 20% winrate in ranked vayne main who blames everything on their support after she tumbled into 2 assasins it'll eventually start to get really frustrating.
Nah, just mute the ADC in those cases. People say "oh, but what if they want to communicate something important??? D:". Pro Tip (from someone that's dealt with toxicity enough to know): If the ADC is constantly blaming you for everything, they're NOT LIKELY TO SAY ANYTHING OTHER THAN TOXICITY! Just mute them and carry on. Another alternative that I've had SOME manner of luck doing, is to just say you're not going to support an [expletive], and that you're going to go support another lane. USUALLY sends the ADC into an apologetic rant for a bit, and it USUALLY ends their toxicity, but not always. Use the alternative method at your own risk!
: Lets Talk Devourer
The only issue with this, is that the only champions that really benefit from the item, or would actually use the item, are hyper carries to begin with.
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: Riot, please address
Am I the only person that completely ignores trolls??? If someone is walking into our turrets continuously for literally no reason, I'll just let them walk into the turret and get executed. If someone devours their teammate under turret, and throws them back into lane, I'll actively NOT kill them unless they attack me first. Trolls are the absolute worst thing to happen to games (at least in ranked), and I won't further their clandestine mission to ruin their team's game.
: Because Cho is fucking OP. 100% AP ratio AOE knockup and long-lasting slow with a long range to place it, 70% AP ratio cone silence for 1.5-2.5 seconds, AA AOE buff, an extra possibly 900 health, size to be a meat soaker, and his ult does more damage than smite and goes on a 40 second cooldown, just like smite. That's why we hate Cho.
You forgot the ugly amount of sustain his passive gives him for last hitting, which means that you can't reliably harass him in lane because he'll just heal it up, and you're just wasting mana. ;)
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