: I realize i have gone 2 years without feeling an urge to buy things from riot.
Rioter Comments
: New Champions Riot Can You Chill ....
I feel we have enough champions for unique playstyles. If I had my way right now I would only let riot release 2 champions per year. The game itself needs rebalancing. Runes reforged needs to be looked at. There's a lot more to talk about but for the most part it's about time they just take a break from champions because balancing right now is a nightmare.
BlackXIV (EUW)
: Ganking is also necessary to gain the priority in order to take any dragon past the first. What game are you playing exactly?
A game where in this season where I have gone on a win streak ganking less and focusing dragons and rifts more when the enemy jungler ganks away from an objective that's up. So far my new method has netted me much more success but then again bot lane has never been so weak so im taking advantage.
: The 2 highest WR junglers in the game right now are WW and Nunu, 2 champs that are basically made to farm/control the jg. Junglers are ganking much less than before now, and farming into dragon is the best way to play jg now. OP just has no clue, as does most of the boards, probably one of those jungle players that dont read patch notes, try to spam gank and wonder why they are 4 levels behind the game.
Exactly its ridiculous there's absolutely almost no reason to gank now because one gank will cost you a dragon depending on where you are. The minute I see the enemy jg ganking top I know its dragon time because theyre so damn ez to take now.
Kyaza (NA)
: Just played my first ever game in Gold
Yeah i thought 2 years ago when i 1st hit gold. Finally I get to play with people who think about team comps and have map awareness ... I was so ignorant.. It's just more silver elo
: Exactly Old akali had 0 kill potential pre 6...
Yeah the way I remember it the goal as the jungler with an Akali in the game was to try and shut her down hard before she hit lv 6 because then she would become one of if not the biggest problem. Old Akali definitely was not going to all in you at lv 3.
GFREEMEN (NA)
: This is what Diana 2.0 is
: Riot learned nothing from Pyke. Support-carry hybrids make sense ONLY if they're locked into support. But they aren't. If the only thing keeping a champion from popping off is a steady income of gold (like pyke) then you simply run them in a different role where your income is higher. Riot said they would try and balance her for both but if it came down to it they would balance her around being a support. Looks like we've already hit that point
I agree with you but see then that pisses me off. Why push the champion into a role they were not initially designed for just because you knew you made something wrong on release. It irks me so much when this happens. Now you're going to push them into something subpar instead of letting them live up to their full potential.
: Senna NEEDS to be given a HARSH choice. DAMAGE or UTILITY.
I'm one of the initial Naysayers of seeing a champion like Senna being put into this game. This post is the exact reason why I'm against Senna because her design makes her inherently good at both roles and if you nerf one of the other she becomes trash. She's the kind of champion you pick when you don't trust the adc to carry. If they fall behind no worries because you can become the adc now and not a subpar adc no a full adc and if your adc catches back up so much the better. I'm not ok with champions designed like that. There are never good balance ratios for champions like Senna (hi pyke) because you touch the numbers and then you have to compensate for their utility which then needs a necessary buff and is one of the reasons they're a problem or vice versa. She should have never made it into this game like this same goes for Pyke cause he's in the same boat.
: Where's the Ap nerf on Conqueror
oh it works on Ryze?I gotta play Ryze now he must be even more degenerate than usual
: The real problem with Senna ADC is her SUPPORTS.
I love how you will defend this champion with your dying breath when she's a problem in herself. More power to you. I can agree with you with the support argument but that's not why Senna is an issue. You can apply this argument to any adc.
: I'll get roasted for saying so, but... ah well, the problem isn't with Akali, it's with the balance team themselves. Akali and many others could theoretically be balanced, even with their unique kit mechanics like true invisibility... but because Riot makes all the money in the world (for not doing their job)... Your issue is with sustain. This problem affects: Akali, Aatrox, Caitlyn, Cho'Gath, **Darius**, **Draven**, **Fiora**, Illaoi, **Irelia**, **Jax**, **Yi**, Vladimir the list goes on and on... but... if you can name me a broken champion, chances are they'll be balanced out by balancing sustain. Unfortunately, many people ignore that and choose to blame the champion themselves like you've just done and, so, the issue never gets resolved. You notice Fiora? Darius? Yasuo? Akali? Aatrox? Lots of healing, right? It's almost like the healing is stacked _onto_ their kit, sometimes in ways that don't even make sense (Irelia) and the champions who don't have self-healing are in turn overloaded as fuck because they, otherwise, _can't keep up._ We have CertainlyT to thank for this, but fortunately he's not going to be designing LoL anymore after releasing yet another ~~overloaded champion~~ balance nightmare. Edit: in some cases, the healing IS literally stacked onto their kit ({{item:3146}}{{item:3812}}{{item:3072}} or Fleet Footwork/Conqueror) and a 40% healing reduction just isn't enough to deal with something like that.
I agree with you but her get out options are also a huge problem she doesn't have to commit to anything and she's virtually impossible to punish for positioning badly.
: Stuck in bronze 1
Honestly I don't know what it is but it seems to happen every time you get to the 1st division of whatever tier you're in that's where the trolls come out to play.
: For those who REALLY wish to perserve your CURRENT USERNAME here are the solutions!
Exactly the way yall ate up that true damage skin and any of the flashy skins they put out they don't give a fk whether or not your upset about the usename change. They know you'll complain for a few weeks then cave.
: > [{quoted}](name=Nea104,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zzEpTy69,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-11-25T19:03:38.070+0000) > > You realize that it took you **20** lines instead of **4**, to describe the champ **synthetically**, right? Like I said in the conclusion, it's like having five mini-kits. None of the mini-kits are that complicated. There exist Champions whose kits are complex to the point that, even "synthetically", would have abilities that require multiple lines. Ornn has **_four_** passives before you even begin describing his kit, but I don't think people generally categorize him as "complicated". Basically, "number of lines" does not equate to "complexity".
> [{quoted}](name=Everyday Legends,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zzEpTy69,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-11-25T19:08:36.132+0000) > > Like I said in the conclusion, it's like having five mini-kits. None of the mini-kits are that complicated. > There exist Champions whose kits are complex to the point that, even "synthetically", would have abilities that require multiple lines. > Ornn has **_four_** passives before you even begin describing his kit, but I don't think people generally categorize him as "complicated". > Basically, "number of lines" does not equate to "complexity". He has 5 minikits which you then have to apply on the fly and remember in combat. Ight.
GripaAviara (EUNE)
: Fizz is so busted
Yasuo says move over
wolf jade (EUNE)
: the new champion looks really fun and nice and i can't wait to try him out and learn how to play him
I think the game has enough champions that Riot should do 2 character releases a year and put more focus on balancing the game. On the character, I think he's going to be overloaded just like Senna.
: Aphelios Kit Primer
What the fk is going on with the creation team and who is the one in charge of approving these champion designs. These new champions are getting ridiculously overloaded. Well at least he doesn't have a dash it seems.
: Jungle actually takes skill again
Meh honestly for me at least at the gold elo it's more now whoever gets the 1st successful gank bot is the winner. They got some things right with the new jungle like making each side letting you hit 3 but they got other things wrong imo by making dragons easier to take and nerfing supports so they can't afford to stop the enemy jungler from taking the dragon uncontested.
Done25 (NA)
: I shit you not. Went to start up a Gold ranked game as Support. My ADC goes Ashe. K. Nice solid ADC with some good CC. Then the rest of my team locks in... Top: {{champion:84}} Jungle: {{champion:60}} Mid: {{champion:7}} {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
Maybe be biased here but Elise jungle isn't bad. Nowadays succesful junglers are usually the ones with their own hard cc or can collapse on an enemy lane quickly enough for it not to matter (Hecriam, Sejani, Zac, Nocturne). Also as you said most people nowadays don't care about picking champs with hard CC so you have to have a jungler that provides their own for the most part.
BlackC0W (NA)
: Riot Games are you going to let LCK ruin League of Legend?
I mean when Tencent took over that's when league took a nosedive. It can't really get any worse.
: I think we can all agree season 9 was the worst season to ever exist
People keep saying that but so far S10 is just more of the same and probably will be even worse since they aren't addressing the issues people are calling them out on. That and they keep focusing on powering up assasins and giving them more options.
Quáx (NA)
: So while I agree s9 was a very bad season overall for mostly technical issues(For me at least) I'm gonna make a case to say why season 8 was worse First off, season 8, introduced Runes Reforged, an incredibly contervsersal preseason change that's even talked about today, 2 years later. During this season, we got Zoe. Now if you remember anything from S8 it should be that champion and how utterly broken she was, FOR MONTHS, not to mention how bruisers were taken out as a class(Until conqueror was added of course), and when they did come back, tanks went extinct, also the reworks that year really pissed everyone off Irelia, Akali, Aatrox, and like half of Nunu, were all terrible, not to mention Pyke and Kaisa also came out All these champs are heavily complained about on the boards because of how broken they are. Not to mention that year was the year we were introduced to the idea of CLASH, which if you know, and actual successful launch of this didn't come out until MORE THAN A YEAR LATER. S8 basically introduced so much damage to the game that I think that S9 still had to pick up its pieces, such as the 30 billion Akali nerfs this season and the need to change around Aatrox and Irelia this season as well.
> [{quoted}](name=Quáx,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=If9kkUgt,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-11-21T14:24:42.362+0000) > > So while I agree s9 was a very bad season overall for mostly technical issues(For me at least) > > I'm gonna make a case to say why season 8 was worse > > > First off, season 8, introduced Runes Reforged, an incredibly contervsersal preseason change that's even talked about today, 2 years later. During this season, we got Zoe. Now if you remember anything from S8 it should be that champion and how utterly broken she was, FOR MONTHS, not to mention how bruisers were taken out as a class(Until conqueror was added of course), and when they did come back, tanks went extinct, also the reworks that year really pissed everyone off > > Irelia, Akali, Aatrox, and like half of Nunu, were all terrible, not to mention Pyke and Kaisa also came out > > All these champs are heavily complained about on the boards because of how broken they are. > > Not to mention that year was the year we were introduced to the idea of CLASH, which if you know, and actual successful launch of this didn't come out until MORE THAN A YEAR LATER. S8 basically introduced so much damage to the game that I think that S9 still had to pick up its pieces, such as the 30 billion Akali nerfs this season and the need to change around Aatrox and Irelia this season as well. It pisses me off when I made this exact point. Runes reforged was the beginning of the end. What the people wanted was just for runes and quints to be free. That's it. No one wanted and entirely overhauled mastery system. There was so much diversity of how you could play a champ pre season 8. That's gone now.
: Finally, some good looking 2D boys - Aphelios is SO HOT
Wheres the Tanjiro disgust face when you need it
: > [{quoted}](name=vgamedude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RvYXIOYK,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-11-20T00:47:38.677+0000) > > Yeah its real great when your game has less diversity, variety, draft possibilities and is more stale and rigid. Except it pushes weaker ADCs straight out of the meta. Right now {{champion:96}} is dogshit in all lanes. He's sitting at a 1% pick rate and a 44% winrate which tells me the only people really playing him are one-tricks and people who want to fuck around. He can't mid, he can't support, he can't jungle, and he can't top. Hell he can barely ADC and it is only made worse by mage-supports who aren't any weaker than if they played midlane {{champion:63}} {{champion:101}} {{champion:142}} {{champion:518}} etc. So excuse me if I don't shed a tear for meta mages who will have to go play midlane just fine so weaker ADCs just don't fall off the Rift entirely. Here's another post you can down vote.
Like I said man I don't have any problems with it. I don't like seeing mid lane mages bot. I would love to be able to play Zyra mid again but only if the ones that were nerfed for the bot lane were reverted so they can function as mid lane carries again.
: No junglers released in over 2 years
They're pushing the assasins and adcs because that's what brings in the big bucks. I don't think we'll ever see another Nami, Leona, or Janna type support again. A support that's strong at supporting but is also very vulnerable. Right now it's all about making champions that carry games.
meowwow7 (NA)
: tbh even with the changes to the gold income brand and zyra are still going to do better there than a solo lane due to their kits alone
Not if they don't have the mana to use those kits. Their spells cost a lot of mana and without mana regen their probably going to suffer so hard in lane the gold income won't make up for it. However, we won't know until the patch goes through but as i said im fine with them being pushed out of bot as long as their compensated when they return mid.
Rioter Comments
: Goodbye Season 9 and Good Riddance
The majority of the stuff in S9 is carrying over into S10 so idk what you're so happy about. They aren't addressing damage, they aren't addressing the power of turrets so people can play around them if you're behind, they aren't addressing minions fking you over, they aren't addressing the lack of vision. It's just more of the same with bells and whistles on the rift the core of what S9 is not changing. Let's not even get into the new high damage, low risk and high reward champions they're pumping out.
: Senna: Broken or Not Broken? (poll)
I don't think she's broken I think shes OVERLOADED
Rokuroú (EUW)
: Senna is a bit nuts
Ohho but remember she's not just a support she's also a Marksman. I hate these hybrid champions there's never a good balance for them and Riot really needs to stop with this bs character design.
: im a whore for honor
Trust me there's nothing special about it. I just get keys.
AdamrCc (EUW)
: Well then get over your insecurities and start helping push lanes instead of just giving your laners kills. If you aren't playing for objectives you aren't winning.
You're assuming that I have them. You're assuming that I'm not doing exactly that, you just jumped over my whole point. If your laners can't lane as a jungler no matter what you do it's not going to matter. Again you're acting as if you can still solo carry in this season. You can't you need competent team members because at a certain point you'll become a focus and the enemy team will realize that without you the entire thing falls apart. Jungle will probably be the role that has the biggest impact in season 10 looking at the changes but right now the succes of climbing usually falls upon where your bot lane is good or not or at least isn't feeding. That's where the real power is at least in Gold Elo. However, that being said there isn't one role that "If you definitely want to climb" you play.
: Seems like the only way to climb is to play jungle.
As a hybrid jungle main and mid laner I can tell you that your statement is bs. You can snowball hard as a jungler, even set up a top laner nicely so they have 3 kills to 0 but if the person can not lane it means absolutely nothing. The current state of the game does not allow for solo carrying. If you're laners die 3 times in 5 minutes it doesn't matter how fed you are you're going to lose. Try to lead by example in your lane and people will 7 times out of 10 follow your direction. Teamwork in this season of the game is what really wins matches. That wasn't the case seasons 1-5 (I started officially in Season 2) but it is now.
Rioter Comments
: Nerf Zyra now plz.
Little secret she's supposed to carry she's a mid lane mage Riot wanted to push into a support.
: I.. already don't like facing Senna
And as I said before that's the problem with champions like Senna because if you nerf her even slightly she'll be too weak and she won't be able to deliver on her role as a Marksman. However, if she's too strong she can't be considered a support anymore.
Rioter Comments
Rockman (NA)
: is hollow knight a good game?
It starts slow then ramps ups
Cräfty (EUW)
: A message from a jungler to all lanes!
Look at my name. I feel all of this. Also the thing about the laner going 0/4 you're a lot nicer than I am. If you go 0/3 in 5 minutes that tells me what kind of player you are. I'm not coming to your lane. You're going to have to figure that out on your own unless I'm super fed because 9 times out of 10 that laner expects me to come and soak up all that damage for a chance to kill that Laner. I'm not going to risk feeding them even more or getting counter ganked. Also yes dude I hate when people don't move in for objectives the minute it's an ez take. The farm will always be there and those dragons translate into an ezier time in lane. I especially hate when we can get a Red dragon really early safely but my laners decide to get that one last wave before coming up when I start it. Out of everything that infuriates me. You're telling me you'd rather get 6 more cs than a permanent damage advantage over your opponent with no threat to your life. Those are Fuccboi/Fuccgirl laners. That really triggers me.
GankLord (NA)
: I feel you can generally call how a game will go in 5 minutes
It's more because this is the season that FF at 15 has become more prevalent
Rioter Comments
: How the fuck are you supposed to play jungle without feeding and be actually able to enjoy the game?
It's usually the other way around by 5 minutes in this season at least you can tell which lanes are a lost cause depending on the nature of their deaths. I don't think I've been in a game yet where withing 5 minutes someone has not died whether it be to a laner or to the jungler. Invades are an exception.
Sentrık (NA)
: League is becoming a team game. This is why people hate it.
I mean Riot has to take some responsibility though. I still find it ridiculous that voice chat isn't an automatic thing that if you don't want to do you can disable it.
: Really? What was better? Was it a gameplay / balance thing, or a player base being less awful thing? I've been interested in the history of the game and the balancing aspects. I watched a few videos by that Exil dude on YouTube and it's really fascinating to see how the game has changed over the years.
Remember this is most just my opinion but It's a mixture of all those things really. I think during S5 someone correct me if I'm wrong. Tenecent did not own Riot so the devs imo worked on the game as a labor of love rather that what was going to bring in more players. LCS was definitely prominent but it wasn't so prominent that devs weren't specifically balancing the game or creating champions to promote it more. Were there busted champs? Yeah but it was more a numbers thing than champion kits being overloaded. The biggest thing was that Runes Reforged had still not rolled through. You had a lot more diversity on how you would like to play a champion rather than the preset runes that heavily sync with specific champions making other champions inefficient even if they played similarly. Matchmaking was definitely better than it is now and there was a lot of jungle diversity. I've been playing since S2 so everyone else is going to have a vastly different opinion on this but I feel the biggest shift in the game came from Runes Reforged. It felt like to me before it was here is your champion play them any way you want. You want to jungle Kled sure it can work as long as you have to skill to pull it off. Now it's more like ... you can play jungle kled but it won't really work anymore. Press the attack or Conquerer Kled top is how we want you to play him. There's more I could go on about. Vision getting reduced. Specific items syncing so well with certain champions it feels like Riot has an agenda with who they want to see played. How Riot blatantly pushed solo lane champions into support roles by changing their kit numbers so they wouldn't thrive anywhere else. The rise of flashy hyper mobility champions which have again imo brought in new players who care more about getting kills and "outplaying their opponent with their 5 dashs, 3 blinks, etc " rather than using strategy to actually win the game. However, the biggest take away from my long as rant is this. Pre S5 you didn't have a collar around your neck in how you wanted to play this game. Now at least for me, I feel limited in my champion expression no matter what role I'm playing. Jungle my generally main role is a mess and with this new season, i think I may just switch to the new card game. People were definitely toxic pre 5 don't get me wrong but it never started in champion selection. People were also a lot more helpful and uplifting if you happened to feed because your lane was really ruff. I've played so many games were a teammate/teammates dced but because we had the right attitude we won late game 4v5's sometimes even 3v5s. Those days are gone now and I don't think they're ever coming back.
: I wish Riot would revert Karma back to her original kit
I wish Riot would revert Zyra to S3 if only I had known what the rework would have done to her.
: New to League and have Some Thoughts
I will say this. As the game stands now this was/is the worst time to have started league. In my opinion the last decent season was S5. After that it all went downhill.
Yenn (NA)
: These jungle changes are going to make the entire role more of a coinflip than it already is
Idc what anyone says I still think S5 was the best time for junglers so much more diversity
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